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    ….we’ve reached the portion of the program where we’re now gonna trash Coach D.Ham for being stupid & clueless. Such is the state of sports blogging I guess.

    Just for context, we’ve had more starting lineup configurations than any other team in the league; so it ain’t like he’s being rigid or stale. Fact of the matter is that there’s precious little time to find a rotation that clicks (which is why these same type of moves shoulda been made last summer). We’ve already wasted the 1st two games of this new “era” by not having Lebron or Bamba available…so we’re still just whistling in the wind so far.

    If Ham makes some changes (like Beez & Vando starting) and they don’t win immediately then you’ll have one faction of idiots screaming that he needs to make more changes and another faction of idiots screaming that they need more time. If he stands pat (with Dennis & Rui) you’ll have the same factions screaming the same idiotic things.

    And if AD doesn’t regain his form or LBJ has lingering foot issues then none of this will matter anyway….smdh

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    ….we’ve reached the portion of the program where we’re now gonna trash Coach D.Ham for being stupid & clueless. Such is the state of sports blogging I guess.

    Just for context, we’ve had more starting lineup configurations than any other team in the league; so it ain’t like he’s being rigid or stale. Fact of the matter is that there’s precious little time to find a rotation that clicks (which is why these same type of moves shoulda been made last summer). We’ve already wasted the 1st two games of this new “era” by not having Lebron or Bamba available…so we’re still just whistling in the wind so far.

    If Ham makes some changes (like Beez & Vando starting) and they don’t win immediately then you’ll have one faction of idiots screaming that he needs to make more changes and another faction of idiots screaming that they need more time. If he stands pat (with Dennis & Rui) you’ll have the same factions screaming the same idiotic things.

    And if AD doesn’t regain his form or LBJ has lingering foot issues then none of this will matter anyway….smdh

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    Their superstar went off for 40 against our full contingency of guards. Our superstar got 19 against them without their starting center & power forward. Cull the stats anyway you choose but that ain’t good from any angle.

    But I didn’t get too high about the GSW win & ain’t gonna get too low after this blowout loss. It’s gonna take time to get 5 brand new top rotation guys sorted out and still nobody’s played with Lebron on the court. Right now we’re just treading water until he decides to come back. But there isn’t a whole lotta time for this thing to gel. Some experimentation and trial & error are unavoidable. with this many new moving pieces.

    One other point to take into consideration; the West is so tightly bunched that much of the seeding will come down to tiebreakers. Right now we’ve got more conference losses and more division losses than anybody above us….that ain’t good either.

    Umm...

    Their superstar went off for 40 against our full contingency of guards. Our superstar got 19 against them without their starting center & power forward. Cull the stats anyway you choose but that ain’t good from any angle.

    But I didn’t get too high about the GSW win & ain’t gonna get too low after this blowout loss. It’s gonna take time to get 5 brand new top rotation guys sorted out and still nobody’s played with Lebron on the court. Right now we’re just treading water until he decides to come back. But there isn’t a whole lotta time for this thing to gel. Some experimentation and trial & error are unavoidable. with this many new moving pieces.

    One other point to take into consideration; the West is so tightly bunched that much of the seeding will come down to tiebreakers. Right now we’ve got more conference losses and more division losses than anybody above us….that ain’t good either.

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    • Dame does this a lot. It was some other other guys that killed. When 3 players that usually usually shot 3’s in the low 30’s combine for 9 for 13 from deep, you are generally screwed.

      • lol…like I said, cull the stats as you wish. The unfortunate truth is that AD also does this alot (not matching the intensity of the opposing superstar). Play Dame to a standoff and we stand a chance to win this game no matter what those 3 other dudes did. Plus…he was playing against their backups.

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    I didn’t see the game..but did Zub really hang a damn near 30/30 on our big man savior Myles Turner?

    Did that really happen?

    I didn’t see the game..but did Zub really hang a damn near 30/30 on our big man savior Myles Turner?

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    • Yep. But Turner got 10 point and 5 boards! 1 for 6 from 3. Buddy chipped in 10 points 1 for 9 from 3. They’re going to save the Lakers!

    • The key to unlocking AD and hanging #18.

    • As many always like to say, one game.

      • Dude has been solid since we traded for Muscala (no longer on the team). Silly to have let him walk in the first place. Why? Because we were acquiring a theoretical stretch five.

        Absurd. Good players are good for the team. It’s not like every player needs to be a threat from three. not even Golden State has that. Draymond sucks from three now.

    • I have always liked Zubac. Kid just worked on his game summer after summer. is it flashy? No. Does he shoot a butt ton of threes? No. Does it matter? No, the kid is good and what he’s supposed to be good at and we should have never traded for Mike Misscala.

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    So I’ve been watching alotta different teams on League Pass so far this season a question has popped into my head.

    How many teams in the league would trade places with us right now?

    I’m not talking about the LA market or the history or all the titles and HOFers. I’m talking about this roster, the future picks, trade assets, the front office, the ownership. The entire CURRENT situation.

    I could count them with only one hand and I’m not even sure i need to use all 5 fingers. Would OKC take that offer with all those young potential stars and all those picks? I wouldn’t. Sacramento might even have something cooking in Cowtown with Fox, Malik (that one stings), & Sabonis. Even freakin Orlando seems to have found a stud in Banchero. Houston has a buncha young studs trying to find their way. Pistons too. What we got? An aging, ailing big 2 whose window has closed and….and…..a few of our own picks? If I’m any of those teams I stick with the hand I’ve already got.

    Maybe Spurs, Hornets, Nets (just because of all the turmoil there), and ??? Everybody else has some combination of current stars, a buncha upcoming picks or young potential stars. We’ve got neither and then you throw in the disfunction of Jeanie & Pelinka and the surrounding opinions in the room and you’ve got an unfavorable situation.

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    So I’ve been watching alotta different teams on League Pass so far this season a question has popped into my head.

    How many teams in the league would trade places with us right now?

    I’m not talking about the LA market or the history or all the titles and HOFers. I’m talking about this roster, the future picks, trade assets, the front office, the ownership. The entire CURRENT situation.

    I could count them with only one hand and I’m not even sure i need to use all 5 fingers. Would OKC take that offer with all those young potential stars and all those picks? I wouldn’t. Sacramento might even have something cooking in Cowtown with Fox, Malik (that one stings), & Sabonis. Even freakin Orlando seems to have found a stud in Banchero. Houston has a buncha young studs trying to find their way. Pistons too. What we got? An aging, ailing big 2 whose window has closed and….and…..a few of our own picks? If I’m any of those teams I stick with the hand I’ve already got.

    Maybe Spurs, Hornets, Nets (just because of all the turmoil there), and ??? Everybody else has some combination of current stars, a buncha upcoming picks or young potential stars. We’ve got neither and then you throw in the disfunction of Jeanie & Pelinka and the surrounding opinions in the room and you’ve got an unfavorable situation.

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    • Unfavorable is being kind. This mess can’t be cleaned up this season, not to a contending level. Trade Russ and maybe, maybe mind you, we make the playin. No combination of players in trade scenarios I’ve seen fix this with AD and LBJ playing as-is. Just let this work out and try again next summer, keep the picks unless we can magically trade them for Dame or Beal. There will be better offers, most likely. No guarantee we win that sweepstakes. So then what? Make Kuz an offer he can’t walk away from, but it won’t be a max offer so that might not even be possible. Lakers really screwed their future flexibility when they let Caruso and Schroder walk for nothing. Locked themselves into a “we have 3 massive contracts, couple MLE guys and shit-ton of minimum salary guys to work with. One can critique LeBron for pushing for Russ but every other choice is on the front office and ownership. Can’t blame Grank, won’t lick into The Bubble ever again, and we’re about to “witness” a star slowly dying and fading out unless something miraculously changes in LA. Keep the picks, we’ll need them for an AD trade at some point or simply to finally begin re-acquiring visit-controlled talent.

    • As we do so much is think our young guys will be the “Answer!” None are close to AI, lol. Most have done what many others have done, show great for 1 game outta 10. : (

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    …we stinky right now.

    But honestly, who’s our 3rd best player on this team? The fact that nobody immediately jumped into my mind is very troubling.

    Pee-Yew!!!!

    …we stinky right now.

    But honestly, who’s our 3rd best player on this team? The fact that nobody immediately jumped into my mind is very troubling.

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    In addition, James has shown support publicly and privately to integrating Westbrook and playing with the former league MVP again this season, and multiple sources said he applied no pressure to the Lakers front office to do the Pacers’ deal. Seven months have passed since James’ tweet supporting the “f— them picks” approach of Rams GM Les Snead led some to wonder how he saw the Lakers’ strategy, and sources say he remains supportive of the current regime. And while Pelinka made it clear on media day that he’s willing to trade precious picks in the right deal, that time has yet to arrive.

    As was noted, LeBron made his feelings clear months ago with that Les Snead tweet, but it seems as if he understands the Lakers’ approach this offseason and is embracing it. As Pelinka noted during Media Day, the Lakers have one chance to make a huge deal with these two valuable picks and a massive expiring in Westbrook and they have to get it right.

    As good as Turner and Hield are, they simply are not gamechangers, which is what Pelinka is likely targeting in such a deal. In signing that contract extension, James made it clear that he believes the Lakers is the best place for him to win another championship and now he is, smartly, giving them time to make the right move to hopefully make that happen.

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    In addition, James has shown support publicly and privately to integrating Westbrook and playing with the former league MVP again this season, and multiple sources said he applied no pressure to the Lakers front office to do the Pacers’ deal. Seven months have passed since James’ tweet supporting the “f— them picks” approach of Rams GM Les Snead led some to wonder how he saw the Lakers’ strategy, and sources say he remains supportive of the current regime. And while Pelinka made it clear on media day that he’s willing to trade precious picks in the right deal, that time has yet to arrive.

    As was noted, LeBron made his feelings clear months ago with that Les Snead tweet, but it seems as if he understands the Lakers’ approach this offseason and is embracing it. As Pelinka noted during Media Day, the Lakers have one chance to make a huge deal with these two valuable picks and a massive expiring in Westbrook and they have to get it right.

    As good as Turner and Hield are, they simply are not gamechangers, which is what Pelinka is likely targeting in such a deal. In signing that contract extension, James made it clear that he believes the Lakers is the best place for him to win another championship and now he is, smartly, giving them time to make the right move to hopefully make that happen.

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    • One FRP, I’d probably pull that trigger and I’d call it a fairish deal. 2, while it doesn’t seem like much more, is highway robbery. Frankly, it would be a fairer deal if it was for a pick swap. Buddy is a one-trick pony and Turner has issues staying on the floor. Indy gets to clear a massive amount of cap space which isn’t worth nothing. Plus we got ample guards and bigs.

      The Gobert trade broke free agency this summer, maybe for a good long while. No need for the Lakers to succumb…in preseason…and over-correct now. Waited this long, Ham is into it, Russ seems like he’s ready to call it a fresh start and LeBron isn’t griping. Just no need to rush into an awful trade.

    • The thing about this report that cracks me up was all the people all summer long on their websites or podcasts or TV shows saying how LeBron would NEVER do this or that with Russ on the team and that Russ was gone for 235 different reasons. They were all flat wrong and I like that Pelinka isn’t bidding against himself just to make a trade. High time he learned that lesson.

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    Last season, the Lakers navigated through the preseason by losing every game and having rather bad vibes throughout the way. In hindsight, it was an ominous start to a doomed season, one that foreshadowed the struggles with injuries and inability to get wins.

    On this week’s episode of “Can U Dig It,” a podcast by the Silver Screen & Roll network, Honi Ahmadian and I preview the start of the preseason schedule with Monday’s game against the Sacramento Kings. Before we talk any of that, though, I welcome Honi as the new co-host of the podcast ahead of what will certainly be another interesting season for the Lakers.

    That intrigue comes as a result of the Lakers feeling like an incomplete team with a Russell Westbrook trade still not having been made. The Lakers have put talks on hold for a deal despite the possibility of a trade with the Indiana Pacers still seemingly being an option.

    Perhaps because of that and perhaps because of how things played out last year, it’s been hard to get excited about the Lakers so far during training camp. Even with a new-look lineup and practice footage from the weekend, the excitement and anticipation feels muted.

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    Last season, the Lakers navigated through the preseason by losing every game and having rather bad vibes throughout the way. In hindsight, it was an ominous start to a doomed season, one that foreshadowed the struggles with injuries and inability to get wins.

    On this week’s episode of “Can U Dig It,” a podcast by the Silver Screen & Roll network, Honi Ahmadian and I preview the start of the preseason schedule with Monday’s game against the Sacramento Kings. Before we talk any of that, though, I welcome Honi as the new co-host of the podcast ahead of what will certainly be another interesting season for the Lakers.

    That intrigue comes as a result of the Lakers feeling like an incomplete team with a Russell Westbrook trade still not having been made. The Lakers have put talks on hold for a deal despite the possibility of a trade with the Indiana Pacers still seemingly being an option.

    Perhaps because of that and perhaps because of how things played out last year, it’s been hard to get excited about the Lakers so far during training camp. Even with a new-look lineup and practice footage from the weekend, the excitement and anticipation feels muted.

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    • What’s to get excited about – a play-in team that’s just getting worse as their leader gets older? Pass on that. TEAR IT DOWN!

      • Not that I disagree just that I don’t see it happening. Maybe if we have another garbage season but I think even in the event we suck they’ll place all hope in winning free agency next summer.

    • We were already stinking up the joint this time last year and the stankiness permeated the entire season. Gotta take it seriously and develop good habits from the outset. Watching this PHX game right now and their starters played deep into the 3rd quarter. Looking at some box scores and quite a few teams are playing their stars 20+ minutes. I’d like to see us hit the ground running…

      • I remember we’ll all the many, many “it’s only preseason!” And “it’s just one game!” Articles and posts we got. Hope we all take preseason a lot more seriously this time around.

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    I just can’t with this dude anymore.

    C'mon MAYNE!!!!

    I just can’t with this dude anymore.

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    • If they didn’t at least entertain the idea of trading AD this summer they should all be fired. Honestly it’s an idea that should have more public traction than it does. Some guys get hungrier after winning their first chip. Some guys talk a lot and collect paychecks. This season will basically tell us which one of those AD is. Not talking about his skillset or ability but his internal fire which has never been a strength.

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    Can anybody explain to me what Rob is doing? This can’t possibly be the roster we’re going into training camp with…can it? 1st preseason game is 2 weeks away. Really don’t understand bringing in PatBev & Dennis if Russ is still gonna be on the team. Now we’re pushing Reaves to small forward? You gotta move Russ for any of this to make sense…don’t you?

    Make It Make Sense

    Can anybody explain to me what Rob is doing? This can’t possibly be the roster we’re going into training camp with…can it? 1st preseason game is 2 weeks away. Really don’t understand bringing in PatBev & Dennis if Russ is still gonna be on the team. Now we’re pushing Reaves to small forward? You gotta move Russ for any of this to make sense…don’t you?

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    • I can’t explain it other than he’s trying to drive us to drinkin’ (especially Tom). And the writeup on the Schroder deal says they informed Russ ahead of time. For what? To call the movers? Or to goose him to get his game on?

    • I have a long history of not understanding the moved we make in the summer since we won it all. The only thing I can thinkn of in terms of signing DS is concerns about Nunn and PatBev and their health.

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    I started the summer with one thought. Punt. Just by looking at the rest of the West (no need to look East cuz we aint getting to the finals to see them), our salary situation, our trading assets, roster construction, rookie head coach, Rob’s ineptitude, Jeanie’s “thriftiness”, etc…I just couldn’t see us being in any kinda real contention. So why throw good money after bad? Take a redshirt year, keep the picks, grind our teeth thru Russ’ contract, and regroup for 2023/2024. It’s just my immature side coming out…if I can’t win I don’t wanna play. Probably why I only played 1 season of Little League baseball and gave up on the guitar after a handful of lessons. I’m flawed…what am I gonna do…lol.

    But hold the phone! Kyrie is a possibility? Alright then, I can maybe get down with that. If we’re gonna lose at least lose spectacularly! It wouldn’t be boring, that’s for sure. And with Kyrie you never know..it could be a season where the planets are aligned and something happens in the space/time continuum where this dude decides to actually play basketball at the level he’s capable of and we make some noise. But alas…it was all just a mirage.

    But wait! There’s more! You mean this long rumored deal with Indy for Turner & Hield might actually be a possibility? OK, I can roll with that. Two FRP’s down the road? Sure, why not? With a healthy LBJ & AD and now PatBev we could maybe do a little damage. Oh wait…I forgot about Rob’s ineptitude & Jeanie’s “thriftiness”. I also forgot about my own looking around at the rest of the Conference. Injuries aside, that roster probably is still a 6th seed and 2nd round exit. And it’s not as compelling or exciting as the Kyrie spectacle woulda been.

    So now as we head into training camp, I’m back to where I started. Full on Punt mode. Don’t throw away assets just to field a mediocre team. We went through 5 years of futility to amass the capital that led directly to obtaining AD. Looks like maybe Rob has painted us into that corner again.

    Oh well….at least the fishing was absolutely phenomenal this summer!!!

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    I started the summer with one thought. Punt. Just by looking at the rest of the West (no need to look East cuz we aint getting to the finals to see them), our salary situation, our trading assets, roster construction, rookie head coach, Rob’s ineptitude, Jeanie’s “thriftiness”, etc…I just couldn’t see us being in any kinda real contention. So why throw good money after bad? Take a redshirt year, keep the picks, grind our teeth thru Russ’ contract, and regroup for 2023/2024. It’s just my immature side coming out…if I can’t win I don’t wanna play. Probably why I only played 1 season of Little League baseball and gave up on the guitar after a handful of lessons. I’m flawed…what am I gonna do…lol.

    But hold the phone! Kyrie is a possibility? Alright then, I can maybe get down with that. If we’re gonna lose at least lose spectacularly! It wouldn’t be boring, that’s for sure. And with Kyrie you never know..it could be a season where the planets are aligned and something happens in the space/time continuum where this dude decides to actually play basketball at the level he’s capable of and we make some noise. But alas…it was all just a mirage.

    But wait! There’s more! You mean this long rumored deal with Indy for Turner & Hield might actually be a possibility? OK, I can roll with that. Two FRP’s down the road? Sure, why not? With a healthy LBJ & AD and now PatBev we could maybe do a little damage. Oh wait…I forgot about Rob’s ineptitude & Jeanie’s “thriftiness”. I also forgot about my own looking around at the rest of the Conference. Injuries aside, that roster probably is still a 6th seed and 2nd round exit. And it’s not as compelling or exciting as the Kyrie spectacle woulda been.

    So now as we head into training camp, I’m back to where I started. Full on Punt mode. Don’t throw away assets just to field a mediocre team. We went through 5 years of futility to amass the capital that led directly to obtaining AD. Looks like maybe Rob has painted us into that corner again.

    Oh well….at least the fishing was absolutely phenomenal this summer!!!

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    • I was gonna ask about the fishing on the Smokey comment. Glad the sea was kind.

      I’m there, too, Mongo and have been for awhile. Keep the line open, see what’s available between 12/15 and the trading deadline, but the best option could very well be just to sit tight. None of the proposed trades I’ve seen move the needle a lot. Frankly, not much does if AD can’t be Bubble AD more often than not.

      LeBron may have stepped into Kobe’s shoes more than intended. By that I mean the way Kobe’s career ended. Mediocre teams, guy with all world talent in an aging body that just isn’t quite up to the task the way it used to be.

      The way teams are locking up superstars these days our best option might even be to draft the next great Laker…

      • HaHa…probably the best local fishing I’ve ever seen in my lifetime. Started with huge White Sea Bass in the spring, then Blue Fin Tuna, and tons of Mahi Mahi (Dorado) the past few weeks. All within a day off our coast when usually we have to venture down to San Diego or even Mexican waters. Probably a bad sign for the planet tho because it means the water temperature has risen dramatically but again…what am I gonna do? Our generation haven’t been very good guardians of the planet but I’m hoping the young folks are able to cure our screw-ups.

        The Lebron/Kobe thing is very accurate. The crazy part is that Rob witnessed the Kobe thing up close as his agent and is still making similar mistakes from the other side.

        • Yeah, Rob hasn’t been all that awesome. Lucked into the Bubble title, not much to show for it.

        • In terms of the planet. It’ll be fine, we’re the ones who will suffer lol. In all seriousness, it’s one of the things my wife and I seriously debated before having a kid. Do we really want to add to this/force someone to suffer through a world essentially burning us off of it’s surface? Where’s McLyne32 when you need an opposing conservative view point…

          • Witcha JS. The world will change (for the good). Tech moves on whether we like it or not. Who has a CD player in their car now? Who has a home phone now? Who has antenna TV now? ETC.

          • I have cd players in both cars. Radios too! But they’re old…like me 🙂

    • Loved the post, Mongo. You have a unique and engaging voice. Thanks.

      Great compilation of the rising and falling hopes and fears that come with almost every Lakers’ offseason. Man, no franchise loves drama more than the Lakers.

      What do we know? Kyrie is out for now. Utah wants too much for too little.

      What do we still hope? Turner and Hield seem like the last hope. Lakers talking about adding a pick swap. Ironically, the only pick swap the Lakers can offer due to the Septian rule is the 2029 pick. That’s probably our win-win trade, where we dump Russ and get back solid players like Turner or Bogdabovic.

      When I look back at all of the posturing released and leaked by the Lakers, I’m impressed. They really have done a great job of muddying the waters so that nobody really knows what they’re going to do. I’m still hoping Rob’s weird decisions and Jeanie’s budget brain have receded and the Lakers are just negotiating tough with the Pacers with a goal of getting the best possible deal for Turner and Hield.

    • “Take a redshirt year, keep the picks, grind our teeth thru Russ’ contract, and regroup for 2023/2024.”

      That is all I have saying all along.

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    It kinda comes down to a few definitive questions of the FO for me.

    Do you believe you can actually contend this season with Turner & Buddy?
    If so, make the deal and give em the 2 picks. We’ll deal with 2029 somewhere down the road.

    Do you think you can land Kyrie next summer?
    If so, then why send away picks for Turner/Buddy if you’re gonna have to let them go at the end of the season for cap space anyway? Keep both picks, punt the season, give D.Ham a redshirt season, and go for broke with Kyrie.

    I’m not really considering the flotsam & jetsam from the Jazz & Knicks…that mess doesn’t solve anything.

    Also…none of these decicions are “fatal”. We were the worst team in the league for 5 years before we ended up with Lebron & AD and that bogus tournament win. Time marches on and The Lakers will still be here long after we’re all dead & buried. The franchise ain’t gonna disband if we have to suffer through a bad season with Russ. We’ve done it before (and worse). And don’t forget…these are the same people who wasted multiple years of Kobe in his prime and towards the end of his career as well. If they did it to Kobe, they’ll have no problem doing it to Lebron…nor should they.

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    It kinda comes down to a few definitive questions of the FO for me.

    Do you believe you can actually contend this season with Turner & Buddy?
    If so, make the deal and give em the 2 picks. We’ll deal with 2029 somewhere down the road.

    Do you think you can land Kyrie next summer?
    If so, then why send away picks for Turner/Buddy if you’re gonna have to let them go at the end of the season for cap space anyway? Keep both picks, punt the season, give D.Ham a redshirt season, and go for broke with Kyrie.

    I’m not really considering the flotsam & jetsam from the Jazz & Knicks…that mess doesn’t solve anything.

    Also…none of these decicions are “fatal”. We were the worst team in the league for 5 years before we ended up with Lebron & AD and that bogus tournament win. Time marches on and The Lakers will still be here long after we’re all dead & buried. The franchise ain’t gonna disband if we have to suffer through a bad season with Russ. We’ve done it before (and worse). And don’t forget…these are the same people who wasted multiple years of Kobe in his prime and towards the end of his career as well. If they did it to Kobe, they’ll have no problem doing it to Lebron…nor should they.

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    • Reason and logic thats hard to argue with. Turner is an URFA next summer, why not just sign him w/cap space for what price the market bears? Or, if the numbers team and the coaching team and so on all agree, then yeah, get’er done. Otherwise, ride it out unless a no-brainer deal comes along at some point.

    • I completely agree with your analysis, MongoSlade. That’s pretty much my thoughts all along.

    • Great take, Mongo. I still think the Lakers are going to make the Pacers trade. Just hope all the posturing has NOT been real takes rather than negotiating positions by Lakers. Frankly, I suspect the Lakers may prefer a Jazz trade that includes just one pick. Then the question is will the Pacers give up Turner for the Lakers pick. If they believe it has great value like Ainge, they might.

      • My dilemma is this…if the picks are so great & valuable (which I don’t necessarily agree with) then why should we give them away to field a mediocre team this year? Especially if we turn around and let a buncha dudes walk in order to get Kyrie next summer…

        • Here’s my take on the picks. First, the value of a post LeBron James unprotected first round pick could be at it’s peak and should be traded right now when the future of the Lakers looks the murkiest. Time to strike is now.

          If the Lakers trade those picks right now and then have a great season and make it to the conference finals, the value of those picks may actually decrease significantly as they’re based on the Lakers falling into losing disarray.

          The Lakers are not going to use those picks for players. The only reason to keep them is to have trading chips at the deadline and next summer. Frankly, that is a valid reason were it not for the fact that we only have two years guaranteed for LeBron and AD and that would waste one year. Don’t see that happening. Lakers will trade Russ and at least one pick.

    • I will never concede a CHIP WIN that is on the books! If AD didn’t go down might have had another.

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    As I’ve said…I love chaos. I even loved K.A.O.S. when Siegfried was in charge (you’ve gotta be a certain age to get that one…lol). So how about this…let’s say Lebron decides to wait on signing that extension. If I’m an up & coming team (or maybe even an established contender), I start looking at how to make sure I have cap space next summer juuuuust in case. If things don’t pan out for the Lakers this season, could Lebron be looking to move on to…say…Memphis or New Orleans for his final year or two? Just something that popped into my head during the sports wasteland of August…

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    As I’ve said…I love chaos. I even loved K.A.O.S. when Siegfried was in charge (you’ve gotta be a certain age to get that one…lol). So how about this…let’s say Lebron decides to wait on signing that extension. If I’m an up & coming team (or maybe even an established contender), I start looking at how to make sure I have cap space next summer juuuuust in case. If things don’t pan out for the Lakers this season, could Lebron be looking to move on to…say…Memphis or New Orleans for his final year or two? Just something that popped into my head during the sports wasteland of August…

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    • Viable. One can almost see the sign and trade (James for KD) next summer now…

      • But why even do a sign & trade if you’re Lebron and weaken the roster you’re about to join? Sign outright as a FA if possible. Just looking at the Grizz…they’ve got Adams & Green expiring this season and a probable bump in the cap once again. That’s around $35mill right there. Or would NO do a sign & trade involving Zion depending on how he bounces back this season?

    • One can dream, but I think the contending teams that could possibly have the cap space would ultimately come to their senses before dropping 100mil on the highest mileage dude in league history.

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      • In a way, yes. Just need to get the most out of ‘em. That’s the raging debate du jour.

        • What is so funny is that picks are still a major crapshoot. That is unless you’re OKC and have 38 of them including 19 first round picks. With the roster they already have, they can win almost any young star who goes on the trade market. Going to be something to watch Pressi starting next season when great young players become available.

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