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    • Ain’t no way we were paying that.

    • We always hear that this team or that team can’t afford to keep all their dudes. But in the Bucks’ case, what they REALLY can’t afford is to piss off Giannis and make him want to leave. They came up short the last 2 seasons but probably feel like it was due to injury. Rookie head coach though…..

      • It’s funny, Brook said all along that he was leaning towards coming back and the Bucks said all along that they wanted him back. I never really bought into the click bait that he may leave.

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    Man, I gotta say…Rob did his THANG with these roster moves. Seems like somebody finally kicked Kurt & Linda outta the office and let D.Ham in. There is alotta thought & planning & PURPOSE behind the construction of this team as it stands and it all coincides with the way D.Ham had us playing last season. These dudes are long, athletic, and active. I’m thinking the defense is gonna be right there at the top of the league. We didn’t invest a huge amount in a starting center or “stretch 5” because it feels like D.Ham wants AD to be in the post full-time and doesn’t want his centert shooting 3s. Jaxson Hayes is the definition of a good, backup 5. We didn’t add a whole lotta shooting but D.Ham didn’t have us shooting a buncha 3’s anyway (even with Malik “The Lazer” Beasley on the court). Only question seems to be D.Russell (AR is staying, even if he signs another offer it costs us the same in years 1 & 2). Gabe Vincent doesn’t have the regular season stats but he proved to be the much better playoff performer. I’m guessing we keep D.Russell frankly because there doesn’t seem to be much of a market for him.

    I’m very encouraged by what’s been done so far. We’ve upgraded substantially, kept guys who showed their mettle last season, and didnt mortgage the future to do it. Anxious to see what D.Ham and his staff can do with the development of this squad with an entire training camp and season to work with.

    LET'S GOOOOOO!!!!

    Man, I gotta say…Rob did his THANG with these roster moves. Seems like somebody finally kicked Kurt & Linda outta the office and let D.Ham in. There is alotta thought & planning & PURPOSE behind the construction of this team as it stands and it all coincides with the way D.Ham had us playing last season. These dudes are long, athletic, and active. I’m thinking the defense is gonna be right there at the top of the league. We didn’t invest a huge amount in a starting center or “stretch 5” because it feels like D.Ham wants AD to be in the post full-time and doesn’t want his centert shooting 3s. Jaxson Hayes is the definition of a good, backup 5. We didn’t add a whole lotta shooting but D.Ham didn’t have us shooting a buncha 3’s anyway (even with Malik “The Lazer” Beasley on the court). Only question seems to be D.Russell (AR is staying, even if he signs another offer it costs us the same in years 1 & 2). Gabe Vincent doesn’t have the regular season stats but he proved to be the much better playoff performer. I’m guessing we keep D.Russell frankly because there doesn’t seem to be much of a market for him.

    I’m very encouraged by what’s been done so far. We’ve upgraded substantially, kept guys who showed their mettle last season, and didnt mortgage the future to do it. Anxious to see what D.Ham and his staff can do with the development of this squad with an entire training camp and season to work with.

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    • It’s remarkable how well Pelinka has operated during the trade deadline last season and this summer. I was afraid we’d blown it when Brook and Bruce were gone but I love the move for Vincent. Just need to bring back Dlo on the 1+1 deal so we can move him at the deadline. Can’t have him walk.

      What’s cool is the Lakers still have options on how to order these transactions. There’s even a chance we bring back Beasley or Bamba on a reduced contract. Rob working hard to balance this roster while staying young so we are a prime landing spot for a superstar when LeBron retires.

    • Rob has done a lot to redeem himself from years 2 & 3 on the job when I really couldn’t fathom what he was doing. This feels like a Coach Ham (or Vogel, honestly) style team. Guys who don’t mind the grind, will let our best players do what they do best, and can go big or small. Some of the project players may not pan out, some guys might not fully live up to their deals but Rob did the job he has well.

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    Gabe Vincent

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    • Kinda faded in the Finals but I like it. Backcourt was our biggest deficiency. Can replace D.Russell when he pulls his usual disappearing act come playoff time…lol

    • So that’s about it for the off-season. Re-sign AR, Rui, and D.Russell then let’s roll. If they get D.Russelll for about $18mill they’re still under the luxury tax to boot. Might even be a question if they keep D.Russell or Dennis. I’ll give Rob credit where it’s due and he’s had a very good run since the trade deadline. Just bring in a backup 5 at the vet min and we’re pretty solid. Plus…he just added a coupla DAWGS in Prince & Vincent who should plug right into D.Ham’s system. Good pivot after missing out on Bruce Brown who proved to be way too expensive for us.

    • “Just bring in a backup 5 at the vet min and we’re pretty solid.” That is all that is left.

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    Eric Gordon

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    • Maybe this is what Rob meant when he was talking about nibbling around the edges during free agency. Doesn’t seem like an impact player is in the cards. New CBA has alotta teams reworking their strategies. Ton of guys getting re-signed by their original teams early on….

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    The 1st Domino Falls

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    • If there is a player out there who would be better than D’Angelo without the baggage of Kyrie, it’s Fred VanVleet. Although he’s small, he’s a fiesty defender and has a championship pedigree.

      I still prefer a bigger guard who is a better defender like Dejounte Murray but if the Lakers could get VanVleet for $25M per year, I could see that being a logical path to upgrading point guard.

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    I just watched 2 teammates go off for 30pt triple doubles in a Finals game. Then I looked at their team salary page and saw their starting 5 is locked up for at least 2 more season and easily more and they’re all under 30.

    Old broke down azz
    CP3 ain’t helping us with that. If the voodoo doctors in PHX couldn’t keep him taped together I don’t know what our rag-tag group of free-clinic refugees is gonna do.

    CP3? Nah....

    I just watched 2 teammates go off for 30pt triple doubles in a Finals game. Then I looked at their team salary page and saw their starting 5 is locked up for at least 2 more season and easily more and they’re all under 30.

    Old broke down azz
    CP3 ain’t helping us with that. If the voodoo doctors in PHX couldn’t keep him taped together I don’t know what our rag-tag group of free-clinic refugees is gonna do.

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    • Never been a fan of Chris Paul but if the Lakers could sign him for the minimum or TP MLE and he would be willing to come off the bench, he could easily be the version of Rajon Rondo we need.

      The reality is he can still deliver 8 assists per game with just 2 turnovers and shoot 38% from deep. I’d take that over 20 minutes of Dennis Schroder any day of the week. Just can’t be more than $5M per year or for multiple years as this point.

      I like the idea thrown out of Russell eating up regular season point guard minutes and then CP3 possibly playing the Rondo role in the playoffs. I think Lakers goal is going to be to rest LeBron and AD (and CP3 if they get him) all regular season.

    • CP3 played in something like 60 games this season and still broke down early in the playoffs..again. You can set your watch to it. LeBron played less than that and was a shell of himself in the postseason. It all sounds great in theory but history tells me a different story.

    • If the Suns don’t want him…fill in the blank.

      • The best part of this is the click beaters have dropped off of Kyrie onto CP3. Hopefully something else comes along soon. 😂

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    …..dump D.Russell and sign Gabe Vincent? I kinda like guys whose numbers actually go UP in the postseason

    Can we.....?

    …..dump D.Russell and sign Gabe Vincent? I kinda like guys whose numbers actually go UP in the postseason

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    • Will Miami ever allow that to happen?

      • Both Strus and Vincent are unrestricted free agents who only made $1.9M this season. Strus is shooting 33% from deep in playoffs but Vincent 41%. Both shot just 33% from deep in the regular season.

        Vincent is the better player and a 26-year old 6′ 5″ point guard. More of a shooter than passer. Lakers have been rumored to be interested in him and could use part of their NT MLE for him if they hardcapped.

        Your idea is not as crazy as it sounds, especially if we hard cap ourselves. Just let DLo walk and sign Vincent. Miami has a lot of signed contracts. There’s a price they won’t match. Maybe 3-years for $30M.

        Why lose him for nothing. Take DLO in trade and bet on Heat Culture to fix him. He and Strus are a great duo of undrafted guards. Good scouting by the Heat.

    • Better across the board, loved his game 2 clutchosity.

      Looking at their committed money they’re right at what will likely be the draconic tax apron (which won’t affect them until next summer, I believe but still waiting to see the official document which goes into effect July 1 this year).

      Victor is picking up that 9+ mil player option and w/o signing either Strus or Vincent they’re at $171,225,510 (which includes Love and Haslem’s deals coming off the books already). Wouldn’t surprise me to see them try and move Lowry and use a couple FRPs to clear his money (San Antonio will have plenty of cap space , for example, and could just give them a massive TPE). Not too sure they can get out of Vic’s deal since he’s so banged up.

      They probably want to bring back Love after this, too, but I’d be fine with him as the elderly statesman, backup big, too.

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    Some guys were talking about all the NBA injuries and the topic came up that Kobe was the most influential dude who made the early move away from the hi-top sneakers to the mid-risers. I’m not 100% sure on the timeline but I seem to remember the discussion & debate about taping the ankles to allow more flexibility in the mid shoe vs the stability of the hi-tops. Now, virtually nobody wears hi-tops anymore but it feels like we’re seeing multiple players rolling their ankles in almost every game. Wonder if someone will buck the trend and roll back the clock.

    Was it Kobe's fault?

    Some guys were talking about all the NBA injuries and the topic came up that Kobe was the most influential dude who made the early move away from the hi-top sneakers to the mid-risers. I’m not 100% sure on the timeline but I seem to remember the discussion & debate about taping the ankles to allow more flexibility in the mid shoe vs the stability of the hi-tops. Now, virtually nobody wears hi-tops anymore but it feels like we’re seeing multiple players rolling their ankles in almost every game. Wonder if someone will buck the trend and roll back the clock.

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    • I wonder whether there is a measurable difference between playing in Converse Chuck Taylor high-tops or the latest and hottest low-top Jordans? There probably is. Training, nutrition, and tools were amateurish back then compared to today.

      There’s such a difference in the game overall from the time I played in high school and jc to today. The players are so much bigger, better, and more athletic and players now focus on just one sport all year around. Players today are simply better.

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    I have mixed feelings on the whole load management thing. There is no magic formula of how many minutes and how many games will make guys “fresher” and prevent injuries.

    Stan Van Gundy makes a point that players actually stayed healthier when they played more minutes and worked out harder back in the day because their bodies were better prepared to perform when fatigue began to creep in.

    I deal with alot of former college athletes (they seem to gravitate into sales when their playing days are over) and I love to pick their brains about this kinda stuff. One guy told me that the modern game puts so much more stress on players’ bodies because you used to be able to rest a bit in the half court back in the day when big men pounded the ball trying to back their man down for half the shot clock while everybody else kinda stood around. Now there’s constant ball movement, fighting through screens, switching, and then having to run out to challenge a 3pt shot. Huge difference.

    Another guy told me that the only real extra rest you get is when you don’t play in a game at all. Soon as you hang your street clothes in the locker, the clock starts and you’re no longer resting. Once you’ve done all the prep and shoot around and get out there on the floor, there isn’t much difference from playing 35 minutes or 40 minutes because you’ve already worked up that “lather”. He said it ain’t like you can put that 5 minutes in the bank and use them at another time.

    As for how all this relates to Lebron…dude has 20+ seasons on that body; ain’t but so much you can do at this point. As we saw in Game 4, he can pull it all together for a half but hard to sustain for an entire game. Let alone for an entire post-season. And that was after not even playing 1/3 of the season. None of this really works with him playing at a diminished capacity which is why I think the window is already closed.

    AD? No excuse for that dude. His body or his mind just ain’t up for that grind. Not sure which one but it really doesn’t matter.

    Rest?

    I have mixed feelings on the whole load management thing. There is no magic formula of how many minutes and how many games will make guys “fresher” and prevent injuries.

    Stan Van Gundy makes a point that players actually stayed healthier when they played more minutes and worked out harder back in the day because their bodies were better prepared to perform when fatigue began to creep in.

    I deal with alot of former college athletes (they seem to gravitate into sales when their playing days are over) and I love to pick their brains about this kinda stuff. One guy told me that the modern game puts so much more stress on players’ bodies because you used to be able to rest a bit in the half court back in the day when big men pounded the ball trying to back their man down for half the shot clock while everybody else kinda stood around. Now there’s constant ball movement, fighting through screens, switching, and then having to run out to challenge a 3pt shot. Huge difference.

    Another guy told me that the only real extra rest you get is when you don’t play in a game at all. Soon as you hang your street clothes in the locker, the clock starts and you’re no longer resting. Once you’ve done all the prep and shoot around and get out there on the floor, there isn’t much difference from playing 35 minutes or 40 minutes because you’ve already worked up that “lather”. He said it ain’t like you can put that 5 minutes in the bank and use them at another time.

    As for how all this relates to Lebron…dude has 20+ seasons on that body; ain’t but so much you can do at this point. As we saw in Game 4, he can pull it all together for a half but hard to sustain for an entire game. Let alone for an entire post-season. And that was after not even playing 1/3 of the season. None of this really works with him playing at a diminished capacity which is why I think the window is already closed.

    AD? No excuse for that dude. His body or his mind just ain’t up for that grind. Not sure which one but it really doesn’t matter.

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    • I look at Kawhi as an example of why load management doesn’t really matter. His body just ain’t right now and you can’t “save” performance minutes at an elite level for later because you didn’t play them last week or whatever.

    • So, as it relates to LeBron, he can either play or not. I think it also doesn’t matter. Just about every injury he’s sustained has been non-contact. Groin happened moving for the ball. Tendon happened making a basic move. AD, on the other hand, can get injured from a variety of contact issues: dude rolls into his keys, his foot huts Jokic in the air and breaks, stray pigeon impales him. His issue, when healthy, is he simply seems to check out every few games. He’ll say things like “I played the same way I always do…” or BS of some kind in that mold. I’m not fooled, anymore. For every dominant 40/20 game there’s a 14/12 game lurking in the weeds.

    • Uh, LBJ played 55 Games out of 82, way more than a 3rd. Little mo info, Curry 56, Durant 43, Booker 53, PG 56, Leonard 52, Ja 61, Embiid and Luka 66.

      • Uh..that’s what I wrote. He didn’t play in 1/3 of the games.

        • U B right! My bad. Seems like so many Star players can’t even play 70 games. : (

          • I think having some quality depth behind AD and LeBron is more important than rest day. I would like an add a decent back up center and another combo forward. I thought Ham rode LeBron a little more then he had to, especially in the 2nd half. Use 10 guys through the regular season. We actually played pretty well when LeBron went down. AD is harder to replace because he is the backbone of the defense. We play more aggressively on the perimeter when he is in the game. A center that can give us a good 10 to 15 minutes of solid defense would be a welcome addition.

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    • The big question BEHIND THE SCENES is whether LeBron demands that the Lakers trade Russell. Lots of rumors about LeBron being pissed at DLo. Not sure if they were true or not. If James is not retiring and OK with keeping him, Lakers should give him a $40M 1+1 extension and review situation at deadline.

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    On the surface, there doesn’t seem to be a whole lotta cap space available out there. But this Spotrac table shows each team’s projected practical cap space. The number a team can reasonably be expected to get down to if they want to. There’s always a way and that could affect outside offers to AR & Rui

    https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/

    Interesting Cap Numbers

    On the surface, there doesn’t seem to be a whole lotta cap space available out there. But this Spotrac table shows each team’s projected practical cap space. The number a team can reasonably be expected to get down to if they want to. There’s always a way and that could affect outside offers to AR & Rui

    https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/

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    • Utah and Ainge will for sure give Reeves his poison pill deal to either steal him or at least F with the Lakers. Rui seems like an ideal fit in Houston. No pressure, lots of money. Always fearful of that contract year bump. Dude could easily be a Biyombo.

    • Everybody saw where he said he wanted to return to the Lakers but few read the last line of that quote “….we’ll see what happens”. Hard to turn down an offer sheet for 4yrs and $100mill guaranteed.

      We’ll see what happens

      • Caruso said the same thing and was low-balled all the way to another team. Rob always says stuff like this, even after the Drummond disaster. We will see indeed.

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    There’s no such thing as a smooth transition when a generational talent like LeBron James leaves.

    We languished for years after Magic.
    We struggled when Shaq left and that was WITH Kobe already in the fold.
    We were one of the worst teams in the league once Kobe hung em up (actually even before then when he shredded his Achilles)
    CLE, MIA, & CLE again all took a steep dive after LeBron departed.

    It’s impossible to quickly fill that vacuum after the entire franchise has been built around him. It ain’t just the stats…it’s the leadership, the gravitas, the willingness to be the Lightning Rod, the example set every day, the commitment, etc. You can’t just plug a dude like Kyrie in there and believe things will keep on rolling on schedule. The front office should already be laying the groundwork for a full-on rebuild because that’s what we’re staring at right now even if Lebron finishes out his 2 years. Hold on to the young, cheap, athletic talent and try to accumulate more draft picks instead of giving them away (already gave away one for what is beginning to look like a bad haul in the Russ deal).

    Smooth Transition

    There’s no such thing as a smooth transition when a generational talent like LeBron James leaves.

    We languished for years after Magic.
    We struggled when Shaq left and that was WITH Kobe already in the fold.
    We were one of the worst teams in the league once Kobe hung em up (actually even before then when he shredded his Achilles)
    CLE, MIA, & CLE again all took a steep dive after LeBron departed.

    It’s impossible to quickly fill that vacuum after the entire franchise has been built around him. It ain’t just the stats…it’s the leadership, the gravitas, the willingness to be the Lightning Rod, the example set every day, the commitment, etc. You can’t just plug a dude like Kyrie in there and believe things will keep on rolling on schedule. The front office should already be laying the groundwork for a full-on rebuild because that’s what we’re staring at right now even if Lebron finishes out his 2 years. Hold on to the young, cheap, athletic talent and try to accumulate more draft picks instead of giving them away (already gave away one for what is beginning to look like a bad haul in the Russ deal).

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    • Frankly, I can’t see a scenario where LeBron actually retires this summer. I think he just got caught in a moment of his mortality as a player and was honest. But he’s not going to turn down $97M over the next two years. How he plays the next two seasons will determine whether he then retires or not.

      When you look at the age of the remade roster, the Lakers are going to be ina much better situation when LeBron leaves than they were when Magic and Kobe left. If LeBron left this season, the Lakers with AD, Reaves, Hacimura, and $45M in cap space would be in a pretty good spot to rebuild. Sign Kyrie to replace LeBron and you’re ready to go.

      I think what we’re seeing could happen this summer if LeBron retires is exactly the end game the Lakers have to create for when LeBron actually retires. Make sure team has cap space to replace LeBron with another superstar in free agency. Bottom line, I think Lakers s/b in great position post-LeBron.

      • Kyrie is nowhere near being a replacement for LeBron and AD just aint the guy to take the mantle of leadership. It’s so much more than just salary cap & stats. You so often hear talk of teams rebuilding on the fly but you very rarely see it actually come to fruition. Spurs transition from Robinson to Duncan is the closest I can think of off the top of my head.

        • If we were talking about LeBron James a few years ago, that would be true but Kyrie Irving today would probably be a better fit next to Anthony Davis than the injured version of LeBron we had this playoff run. I keep hearing the game is about wings but when you look at who’s winning championships, it’s still a guard’s league and will remain so.

          My point is the Lakers would be in a much better situation if LeBron left right now than they were post Magic or Kobe. The difference is what you have left on the team and the cap space situation. Were LeBron to leave, the Lakers would be a very attractive landing spot for free agents. That was not the case when Magic or Kobe left as you pointed out.

          • Once again, you’re talking salary cap & stats while I’m talking intangibles. This ain’t a video game. In fact, it’s easier to replace AD because he doesn’t have any of the intangible qualities of a generational talent of a Lebron, Kobe, Shaq, or Magic. It’s literally salary & stats in his case.

            • I’m not trying to minimize how unique LeBron’s talents and ability to impact other players are but I disagree with your and most people’s depiction of Anthony Davis. His defensive impact is unique in today’s offensive oriented league. His ability to anchor a team defense is just as important in today’s game as James’ smarts and experience.

              But as we saw in this last series, James and Davis are not unbeatable and, in fact, they were not even good enough to beat Jokic and Murray. Run that series back 10 times and I still think the Lakers win 6 of them but the point is the league has gotten better since the bubble but not the Lakers and primarily due to the injuries and play of their two stars.

            • Tom..you’re still talking about on court stuff. Is AD a leader? He hasn’t shown it. Does he set the tone for the entire organization? He hasn’t shown it. I could go on but frankly I’m tired of listing all his shortcomings in those types of areas. He just ain’t that dude. B-Ball skills are unquestioned. It’s the other stuff where he lacks. Him & Jason Tatum…very similar. Then you have a guy like Jimmy Butler who has proven to be the opposite. Not an all time great talent but those intangibles are through the roof.

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    So let me get this straight.
    All those dudes we got for Russ were pretty much unplayable in the most crucial game of the season?

    The Russ Trade

    So let me get this straight.
    All those dudes we got for Russ were pretty much unplayable in the most crucial game of the season?

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    • Vando has always been a role-player, I never bought into the Mo Bamba “HES GOT LONG ARMS!!!!” hype (that’s what trying to sell me a load on THT gets people lol) and of all of them one really should only expect D-Lo to perform at a high level in the playoffs. He’s certainly shrunk from the moment.

      • But the flip side is does anyone really believe we would have gotten this far with Russ? I love his toughness and grit but his fit was always better on a team like the Clippers with a traditional screening big man and shooters for him to release to.

        IMO the Lakers have made the best of repairing that trade as they could have done in terms of this season. My only caveat is I would have never traded Thomas Bryant whom I think would have had a decent role in both this and the Golden State series. Mo is absolute fool’s gold and will be waived this summer.

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    Coach D.Ham stuck with him too long. But what was the option? Schroder played all of 25 minutes and fouled out.

    For the record…D.Ham put in our “best” lineup (LBJ, AD, Austin, Rui, Dennis) on the floor down by 1 with about 8 minutes left. That’s when we got smoked and the season basically ended. 3 straight games where we couldn’t get over the hump at the most crucial point.

    As for the rest of it….screw it…I ain’t re-hashing all the sh!t I already wrote today. Just scroll down…smdh

    D-Lo

    Coach D.Ham stuck with him too long. But what was the option? Schroder played all of 25 minutes and fouled out.

    For the record…D.Ham put in our “best” lineup (LBJ, AD, Austin, Rui, Dennis) on the floor down by 1 with about 8 minutes left. That’s when we got smoked and the season basically ended. 3 straight games where we couldn’t get over the hump at the most crucial point.

    As for the rest of it….screw it…I ain’t re-hashing all the sh!t I already wrote today. Just scroll down…smdh

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    LeBron is a jump shooter

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      • The bigger problem is LeBron is not finishing anywhere near as many of the drives that he takes. What’s scary is it reminds me of what happens when you get older and get going too fast and stumble and are out of control as you try not to fall. Bron looked like that on a lot of the drives in the first two games.

        Is it the foot injury or Father Time or probably a combination of those plus fatigue at how long the Lakers have been playing must win games. Everything is catching up on them right now. We’ll find out tonight just how much LeBron and AD and the Lakers have left in the tank.

        You have to give credit to the Nuggets. They’re the best version of them we’ve seen and Jokic’s Game 1 and Murray’s Game 2 were legitimate superstar game winning performances. They outplayed LeBron and AD. The shot insanely good, almost too good to repeat.

        For that to happen though, the Lakers will need to play much better and their two superstars will have to play up to their reps and not get outplayed by their Nugget counterparts. AD needs to dominate the paint. Bron needs to dominate the paint. Let Reaves, Hachimura, and Walker fire away from outside and get into position to dominate the glass. Let the shooters shoot and the bigs bang.

        I would start Vando over Russell so we have our best defensive alignment for both Jokic and Murray. They’ve shown we need to shut down both of them if we want to win this series. That has to start tonight. I still have Lakers in six with a backdoor sweep.

    • Its also the terrible quality of many of those shots, often within thebfirst few seconds after passing mid-court, before theres rebounders, without running anything. Thise gotta stop.

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