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    Aloha,

    Just thinking about tonight. Who do you have guarding PG? Personally I would put AD on him. PG is
    not a quick first step guy and AD should be able to stay in front of him. This is actually one of those matchups that favors AD at the 4, at least until Trevor comes back.

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    Aloha,

    Just thinking about tonight. Who do you have guarding PG? Personally I would put AD on him. PG is
    not a quick first step guy and AD should be able to stay in front of him. This is actually one of those matchups that favors AD at the 4, at least until Trevor comes back.

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    • Frank will likely start Bradley and have him guard PG.
      We all know how that will end. I like the idea of LeBron and AD splitting time on PG. Make the rest of the Flippers beat you.

      • Aloha Tom, why would Frank start Badley on Paul George? The guys 6’ 9”. He would get crushed. I don’t think that even Frank would do that.

        • Aloha, Michael. Frank cancels the good of replacing DJ with Dwight by starting 6′ 4″ 20-year old THT, who’s played horribly the last five games, instead of a shooter. LeBron at 34.4% is the only Laker starter shooting over 30% (and no, I’m not counting Dwight’s 71%). Frank says FU to 3-point shooting and spacing.

          This may be the final straw in my opinion. This guy is turning into a circus clown with his recent decision making. This is going to cost the Lakers the game and any momentum they had from the great game against the Kings and found gold in LeBron dodging Covid. What better time to screw things up, Frank.

          Count me among those who think you’re not the right coach for the Lakers.

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    Aloha

    Well what do you know. We finally managed a blow out. With the exception of the Bucks game, this was the first game that we played hard for an entire half. Going in to the season I expected a lot of growing pains. You can excuse the mistakes we have been making because of the new roster but you can’t excuse the lack of energy we have been playing with. Sure it was the Kings but play with that kind of energy and intensity and you have a good chance of winning even against the top teams. And you surely will win against the teams you should beat.

    Game ball to Dwight. His energy was infectious. Even when he didn’t grab the rebound himself he would keep it alive for others. I really don’t get Frank’s fascination with DJ. Dwight has out played DJ in nearly every game. Our center rotation should be Dwight, AD and LeBron. DJ should be in only in case of injury or foul trouble.

    Isn’t it amazing that when you look for your 3 point shooters and get them good looks they get you 3’s? Malik and Wayne combined went 9 for 16. That will get it done. AD and Russ went 1 for 7. That won’t. Let the shooters shoot. The next step will be finding the shooters when LeBron returns. Now there is a lot of minutes when all 3 stars are not on the floor together. If we can’t find our shooters when all 3 stars are playing. At least look for them when they are not.

    Wayne’s defense was much better than advertised. He contributed to Buddy having an off night. And Malik was good as well. I think Wayne should get the start at the 2. Because Malik can create I like him off the bench when either LeBron or Russ rests.

    I wonder about THT. He was holding that knee and left the game and didn’t return. I haven’t heard anything yet. I hope he’s okay, we can’t afford another injury.

    AD started the game inside and was dominating. Move to the outside and missed a bunch of shots. Went back inside in the 2nd half and dominated again. I hope he stays inside most of the time, at least until he straightens out his shot.

    Russ sucked in the first half. But he owned it and became himself in the 2nd half. I think he came out thinking playmaker for others. He can’t do that, he has to be himself and attack. That’s when things really opened up for our shooters. And he found his rhythm and the misses turned into makes. He has to be Russ because when he try’s to be C3P it doesn’t work.

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    Aloha

    Well what do you know. We finally managed a blow out. With the exception of the Bucks game, this was the first game that we played hard for an entire half. Going in to the season I expected a lot of growing pains. You can excuse the mistakes we have been making because of the new roster but you can’t excuse the lack of energy we have been playing with. Sure it was the Kings but play with that kind of energy and intensity and you have a good chance of winning even against the top teams. And you surely will win against the teams you should beat.

    Game ball to Dwight. His energy was infectious. Even when he didn’t grab the rebound himself he would keep it alive for others. I really don’t get Frank’s fascination with DJ. Dwight has out played DJ in nearly every game. Our center rotation should be Dwight, AD and LeBron. DJ should be in only in case of injury or foul trouble.

    Isn’t it amazing that when you look for your 3 point shooters and get them good looks they get you 3’s? Malik and Wayne combined went 9 for 16. That will get it done. AD and Russ went 1 for 7. That won’t. Let the shooters shoot. The next step will be finding the shooters when LeBron returns. Now there is a lot of minutes when all 3 stars are not on the floor together. If we can’t find our shooters when all 3 stars are playing. At least look for them when they are not.

    Wayne’s defense was much better than advertised. He contributed to Buddy having an off night. And Malik was good as well. I think Wayne should get the start at the 2. Because Malik can create I like him off the bench when either LeBron or Russ rests.

    I wonder about THT. He was holding that knee and left the game and didn’t return. I haven’t heard anything yet. I hope he’s okay, we can’t afford another injury.

    AD started the game inside and was dominating. Move to the outside and missed a bunch of shots. Went back inside in the 2nd half and dominated again. I hope he stays inside most of the time, at least until he straightens out his shot.

    Russ sucked in the first half. But he owned it and became himself in the 2nd half. I think he came out thinking playmaker for others. He can’t do that, he has to be himself and attack. That’s when things really opened up for our shooters. And he found his rhythm and the misses turned into makes. He has to be Russ because when he try’s to be C3P it doesn’t work.

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    • Solid win Michael and some great points. I think AD needs to play inside out for this team to have the kind of success we believe they can.

    • Yes, couple of the 3 boys showed up. Makes a big differ!

    • I have always said that AD needs to focus more on the paint area and not the jump shots. That’s where he can cause damage. I don’t mind the jump shots occasionally but that’s not where his strengths are.

    • You are right, the game ball goes to Dwight. He was just the energy the team needs.

    • Aloha, Michael,

      What a terrific game that could not have come at a better time, considering the news about LeBron. I’m going to paint this as a great opportunity to turn LeBron’s positive test into a silver lining. If AD and Russ can carry the team through the next 10 days to 2 weeks, it may be the turning point of this season for the Lakers. Winning the non-LeBron minutes is the key.

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    Aloha

    Yet another snoozer.

    Why did we sign Wayne if he is going to get one shot in 15 minutes. I mean do we have any plays?

    AD was dominating inside and then decided to settle. Missing five mid range and a 3.

    Another bad half by Russ. 2 assists and 4 turnovers. 3 missed layups. We signed him to take over for LeBron if out. He hasn’t done it much this year.

    So tell me again why we start DJ over Dwight. He constantly out preforms DJ. He’s keeping us in it with 10 points.

    Can we stop a few pick and rolls please?

    11 turnovers. The only good news is the Kings have 10.

    Dismal half time report

    Aloha

    Yet another snoozer.

    Why did we sign Wayne if he is going to get one shot in 15 minutes. I mean do we have any plays?

    AD was dominating inside and then decided to settle. Missing five mid range and a 3.

    Another bad half by Russ. 2 assists and 4 turnovers. 3 missed layups. We signed him to take over for LeBron if out. He hasn’t done it much this year.

    So tell me again why we start DJ over Dwight. He constantly out preforms DJ. He’s keeping us in it with 10 points.

    Can we stop a few pick and rolls please?

    11 turnovers. The only good news is the Kings have 10.

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    LeBron is out tonight due to health and safety protocols. Talk about a snake bit season. It never ends.

    LeBron out

    LeBron is out tonight due to health and safety protocols. Talk about a snake bit season. It never ends.

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    • He said he’s vaccinated. And he’ll likely miss several games. Go figure. Maybe a contact thing?

    • Wow! I think Ball, Randle, Clarky, DLO, Trez. Ingy and Kuz all doing well, lol. Just kidding, we got a RING 2020! Not trading that for if?

    • No rest for the weary. This team can’t seem to catch a break. From the injury bug that can’t stay back at least 7 feet from the Lakers and the addition of virus protocols, it seems like this team is taking hits like bullets from an AK-47. The team can’t even have a full slate of players right from the start of the season. And mind you, LeBron going in and out of the lineup is not good for our chemistry building. It’s already a quarter Pole of the season and we are still tethering with different lineups. Man, this has become a cruel and unusual season. My goodness.

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    Aloha

    Well yes we won, but there is no way I can call this a good win. Another big lead blown to a poor team is not a good win. The emotion I felt afterwards wasn’t joy or happiness, it was relief that we managed to hold on.

    After the Kings loss, Robert Horry had an interesting observation. He said that when we pulled ahead by 13 he was a lot of smiles, laughter and celebration. He said in the Kobe Shaq days when they went up by 13 they wanted to step on your neck and destroy you. And when you think about it, after a big run, Kobe would still have his game face on. So with that comment still lingering in my head I watched the teams reaction during the time out after we went up 19. Smiles, laughter and celebration. We took our foot off there neck and let them back in the game. We stopped playing the way we did to build the lead.

    Last night our big 3 carried us. But that is not a championship formula. If even had an off night we probably lose that game. THT managed to get a little involved but the other guys were reduced to spectators. Shooter need to shoot. This team really needs to create opportunities for the others if they expect to win.

    A wins a win, I guess

    Aloha

    Well yes we won, but there is no way I can call this a good win. Another big lead blown to a poor team is not a good win. The emotion I felt afterwards wasn’t joy or happiness, it was relief that we managed to hold on.

    After the Kings loss, Robert Horry had an interesting observation. He said that when we pulled ahead by 13 he was a lot of smiles, laughter and celebration. He said in the Kobe Shaq days when they went up by 13 they wanted to step on your neck and destroy you. And when you think about it, after a big run, Kobe would still have his game face on. So with that comment still lingering in my head I watched the teams reaction during the time out after we went up 19. Smiles, laughter and celebration. We took our foot off there neck and let them back in the game. We stopped playing the way we did to build the lead.

    Last night our big 3 carried us. But that is not a championship formula. If even had an off night we probably lose that game. THT managed to get a little involved but the other guys were reduced to spectators. Shooter need to shoot. This team really needs to create opportunities for the others if they expect to win.

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    • Aloha, Michael.

      This team continues to be maddening. We finally get a great game from all three superstars only to have everybody else on the team forget how to shoot. Yes, it’s a win and that’s a lot better than a loss. And yes, this is exactly why we traded for Russ so we wouldn’t have to rely on role players stepping up. But we’re still showing the habits and resolve of a .500 team.

      And our head coach still refuses to replace Jordan and Bradley in the starting lineup. Jordan at least had a good game, which is a lot more than you can say for Avery Bradley, who went 0-5 and had the second worst defensive rating on the team. What will it take for Frank to go with anybody else at the two?

      Finally, the only good sign was more positive lineups with LeBron at the five and comments by Frank that LeBron at center will be part of the team’s rotations going forward. That is positive news. I like the Lakers inverting LeBron and AD in what Frank calls ‘centerless lineups.’ Now that has promise. Bron’s defense,especially when playing center, was elite last night.

      • Aloha Tom, I still blame our offense for lack of shooting accuracy. if people are moving, touching the ball, in otherwards involved, its easier to find of rhythm then if you are standing around waiting. there is also added pressure when you finally get a shot. i would also like to see Bradley repaced with either THT or Monk. i don’t think it would effect our rotations that much with the way we rotate our stars. Like Basemore, his offense has fallen off a cliff. Monks defensive intensity has picked up and THT gets after it as well. yes neither are quite as good but Bradley is not that much better, to justify his lack of reliable offense.

    • Perhaps not those 2-18 shooters? Sign JJ.

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    Aloha

    Just a couple of first half observations. Why DJ over Dwight? We played LeBron at the 5, so why not start Dwight. Makes no sense.

    We gave up defense to bring in 3 point shooters. Malik and Wayne each got one shot. If you wonder why 3 point shooters never pan out here, that’s why. Shooters need to shoot. Monk was on a roll and he’s been basically ignore. There will be no championship unless we can get more guys involved. It’s literally 3 on 5.

    1st half

    Aloha

    Just a couple of first half observations. Why DJ over Dwight? We played LeBron at the 5, so why not start Dwight. Makes no sense.

    We gave up defense to bring in 3 point shooters. Malik and Wayne each got one shot. If you wonder why 3 point shooters never pan out here, that’s why. Shooters need to shoot. Monk was on a roll and he’s been basically ignore. There will be no championship unless we can get more guys involved. It’s literally 3 on 5.

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    • Aloha, Michael.

      Completely agree. It’s like Vogel does not understand the process. We need to create lanes for our superstars to get to the rim. The way to do that is run plays to create open 3-point shots for your shooters, who are not LeBron, AD, or Russ. They should be the other two players in the lineup. When they’re threatening, then everything will open up for your superstars. When you do it the other way around, by running play after play for just your superstars, your shooter starve on the outside and your offense becomes one dimensional and they can focus on just the big 3.

      • From what I’ve been seeing, AD & LeBron aren’t really interested in attacking the rim at this point of the season. Settling for a whole lotta jumpers and LeBron especially shooting a ton of fade-aways even when he has room to operate in the post. Our offensive system is pretty much non-existent and that’s on the coaching staff. The FO has little confidence in Frankie which is why they only gave him a one year extension on his deal. Shoulda just cut bait and started fresh to begin this season, But he keeps LeBron happy by letting him do whatever he wants on the court, so he’s got that going for him…..

        • You wonder how much of the lack of effort is just veteran stars who know this is a long season and are just pacing themselves. Of course, the problem with always feeling you can just flip the switch is that sometimes, when you don’t make the effort all the time, the switch just won’t be flipped.

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    Aloha,

    I watched the Warriors beat the Clippers by 15 in Staples. And I came away with a few takeaways. Steph is definitely the best player in the NBA, still our big 3 are better over all then then their top 3. You can even argue that our role players are more talented over all then then they are. So why are they 18 and 2 and we are 10 and 11?

    First there is the continuity issue. Most of Warriors played together last year. But that is only a small part of it. The bigger issue is coaching.

    The Warriors players are constantly moving as is the ball. Our offense is, iso one of our stars and get out of the way. No ball movement and no player movement. There is a lot a talk about adding more offensive punch to the starting unit which only makes sense if they are going to get them involved in the offense. If not, what’s the point?

    The Warriors play under sized but they are locked in defensively and they gang rebound. The Clippers were much bigger but only out rebounded then by 4. And the Warriors got 11 offensive boards.

    It’s up to the coaches to get the players moving and getting everyone involved. I watched Draymond do the things that LeBron should be doing more of, if only Frank had the guys moving.

    If we must go big I would start Dwight and have him, LeBron and AD rotate at the 5. If we do the sensible thing and start AD at the 5 then I would start either Malik or Ellington at the 2 and THT at the 3. THT actually played well last game but only got 24 minutes and Ellington also played well in his 16 minutes. Yet we let LeBron and Melo play close to 50. As good as they are at their ages they need more of a blow from time to time. We saw LeBron completely gassed with the game on the line and that’s cost us the game.

    Yes the players have to play with more energy and commitment but ultimately it’s up to the coaching staff to get the best out of them. If Frank can’t do that he may not be around when the rest of our players are back.

    Watched The Warriors

    Aloha,

    I watched the Warriors beat the Clippers by 15 in Staples. And I came away with a few takeaways. Steph is definitely the best player in the NBA, still our big 3 are better over all then then their top 3. You can even argue that our role players are more talented over all then then they are. So why are they 18 and 2 and we are 10 and 11?

    First there is the continuity issue. Most of Warriors played together last year. But that is only a small part of it. The bigger issue is coaching.

    The Warriors players are constantly moving as is the ball. Our offense is, iso one of our stars and get out of the way. No ball movement and no player movement. There is a lot a talk about adding more offensive punch to the starting unit which only makes sense if they are going to get them involved in the offense. If not, what’s the point?

    The Warriors play under sized but they are locked in defensively and they gang rebound. The Clippers were much bigger but only out rebounded then by 4. And the Warriors got 11 offensive boards.

    It’s up to the coaches to get the players moving and getting everyone involved. I watched Draymond do the things that LeBron should be doing more of, if only Frank had the guys moving.

    If we must go big I would start Dwight and have him, LeBron and AD rotate at the 5. If we do the sensible thing and start AD at the 5 then I would start either Malik or Ellington at the 2 and THT at the 3. THT actually played well last game but only got 24 minutes and Ellington also played well in his 16 minutes. Yet we let LeBron and Melo play close to 50. As good as they are at their ages they need more of a blow from time to time. We saw LeBron completely gassed with the game on the line and that’s cost us the game.

    Yes the players have to play with more energy and commitment but ultimately it’s up to the coaching staff to get the best out of them. If Frank can’t do that he may not be around when the rest of our players are back.

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    • Aloha, Michael.

      We need change. Frank cannot stand pat. Not with Bradley and Jordan.

      If he wants to stay with two bigs, at least start Dwight and DNP DeAndre. Or even Melo.

      If he wants defense at the two, start Reaves instead of Bradley.

      I would replace Bradley and Jordan with Ellington and Monk and maybe even have LeBron play the five and AD the four tonight. Let’s see LeBron vs. Stewart at the five.

      Do something, Frank. The Lakers train is suddenly out of control and threatening to crash and cost you your job.

    • We have no offensive system. Passing the ball around the perimeter isn’t the same as good ball movement. There must be a plan & sense of purpose in place. So often it feels like we’re just killing time until LeBron or Russ decide to go ISO. That’s a huge difference between what we do as opposed to what teams like GSW & PHX are doing.

      • Yep, we seem to start every possession by making a half dozen passes on the perimeter that do nothing to open up cutters or shooters. Then with less than 10 seconds, we go into superstar iso mode.

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    Aloha

    AD is out with the flu.

    And it continues

    Aloha

    AD is out with the flu.

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    Aloha,

    Poor Luke he never had a chance. The Kings are a dumpster fire. They have 5 centers on the roster, 6 if you count Bagley, who can play both the 4 and the 5. A long history of questionable drafts hasn’t helped either.

    Kings Fire Luke Walton

    Aloha,

    Poor Luke he never had a chance. The Kings are a dumpster fire. They have 5 centers on the roster, 6 if you count Bagley, who can play both the 4 and the 5. A long history of questionable drafts hasn’t helped either.

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    • Perhaps the GM will be next. He should be.

      • Coaches are the buffer that saves GM’s jobs. I wonder what Vogel’s real vote was on the Westbrook issue? I mean, one thing about having a consensus and collaborative management process in place is that everybody in the end buys in on decisions for the good of the organization. So Frank may have acquiesced on trading for Westbrook even though he ultimately supported it.

        Pelinka? Who knows. Maybe this was brought to him by LeBron and AD after talking with Russ. Does Rob turn it down then? LeBron doesn’t run the team … or does he? He has great power. We know that for sure. And is not afraid to wield it when he wants. The reality is it was a gamble that still might pay off. LeBron and AD are a lot better than we’ve seen so far this year. Let’s hope we get a glimpse of that today. Hell with a glimpse, we need a wave.

    • Not surprisingly the coach went before the GM. Keep an eye on buy outs and trades now lol

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    Aloha

    Last night the Lakers banged my table and nearly knocked over my half full glass. Now I wasn’t one of those guys that predicted the Lakers would burn through the NBA to open the season. I knew when you turn over almost your entire roster there are going to be growing pains. And all the injuries only made matters worse. So I wouldn’t even mind the losses if we were playing with the energy required to win in the NBA. Unfortunately I think the Bucks loss was the only one that we found that energy. We made the Thunder, Twolves, Celtics and trailblazers all look like title contenders. The Lakers are the team you play to heal.

    I believe the the blame can be spread evenly between Rob, Frank and the players. I think Rob over thought the situation. Now I have never been on board with 3 super stars. I have always been more of a deep support cast for 2 stars. Sure we struggled when our stars were hurt last year but the reality is that it hasn’t changed. If AD or LeBron go down in the playoffs we aren’t going to win a ring even with Russ. Now Russ was about the only star we could have traded for with our assets. The Wizards needed to get out from under his massive salary and build a team around a Beal, and they did a great job. There was DeRozen but a sign and trade would have hard capped us and knowing Pop he would have asked for AD and draft picks in return. 😂

    The problem is that the team Rob put together isn’t the defensive team that we have been. We now have to score a lot to win. Our offensive system is basically, put the ball in a stars hand and get out of the way. And that’s fine when you are a top notch defensive team. Not so much when you aren’t. If the Warriors with all of the player and ball movement, I wonder if even Steph Curry could excel like he does in our offense.

    Honestly I think we would have been better bringing most of the core back. Even trading for Buddy would have been a waste because this offense has never been one to create good looks for 3 point specialists. Love or hate Dennis, he was a quality defender. I honestly believe at fair price he is a better fit then Russ has been because of that defense. I mean nearly every post game James Worthy mentions him and his D.

    Look at this roster.

    Dennis (again reasonable salary)
    AD
    LeBron
    THT
    Kuz
    Alex
    KCP
    Nunn
    Ellington
    Monk
    Melo
    Trevor
    Dwight
    Reeves

    That would have been is a better team than this one. Primarily because the defense would have made up for our lack of a dynamic offense.

    Now after all of that my glass hasn’t tipped over quite yet. Both Nunn and Trevor will bring much needed defense, along with new dedicated energy to the defensive side we will get better. But the offense needs to be fixed. THT didn’t have a great night, but only getting 6 shots after his last 3 games, is clear example of the problem. AD even said in the post game that THT needed more looks. Yes we do need to learn to play together with LeBron. As long as we put the ball in a stars hands and get out of the way, we will continue to struggle. And if the energy isn’t dramatically improved it will be a very long season.

    Glass half full?

    Aloha

    Last night the Lakers banged my table and nearly knocked over my half full glass. Now I wasn’t one of those guys that predicted the Lakers would burn through the NBA to open the season. I knew when you turn over almost your entire roster there are going to be growing pains. And all the injuries only made matters worse. So I wouldn’t even mind the losses if we were playing with the energy required to win in the NBA. Unfortunately I think the Bucks loss was the only one that we found that energy. We made the Thunder, Twolves, Celtics and trailblazers all look like title contenders. The Lakers are the team you play to heal.

    I believe the the blame can be spread evenly between Rob, Frank and the players. I think Rob over thought the situation. Now I have never been on board with 3 super stars. I have always been more of a deep support cast for 2 stars. Sure we struggled when our stars were hurt last year but the reality is that it hasn’t changed. If AD or LeBron go down in the playoffs we aren’t going to win a ring even with Russ. Now Russ was about the only star we could have traded for with our assets. The Wizards needed to get out from under his massive salary and build a team around a Beal, and they did a great job. There was DeRozen but a sign and trade would have hard capped us and knowing Pop he would have asked for AD and draft picks in return. 😂

    The problem is that the team Rob put together isn’t the defensive team that we have been. We now have to score a lot to win. Our offensive system is basically, put the ball in a stars hand and get out of the way. And that’s fine when you are a top notch defensive team. Not so much when you aren’t. If the Warriors with all of the player and ball movement, I wonder if even Steph Curry could excel like he does in our offense.

    Honestly I think we would have been better bringing most of the core back. Even trading for Buddy would have been a waste because this offense has never been one to create good looks for 3 point specialists. Love or hate Dennis, he was a quality defender. I honestly believe at fair price he is a better fit then Russ has been because of that defense. I mean nearly every post game James Worthy mentions him and his D.

    Look at this roster.

    Dennis (again reasonable salary)
    AD
    LeBron
    THT
    Kuz
    Alex
    KCP
    Nunn
    Ellington
    Monk
    Melo
    Trevor
    Dwight
    Reeves

    That would have been is a better team than this one. Primarily because the defense would have made up for our lack of a dynamic offense.

    Now after all of that my glass hasn’t tipped over quite yet. Both Nunn and Trevor will bring much needed defense, along with new dedicated energy to the defensive side we will get better. But the offense needs to be fixed. THT didn’t have a great night, but only getting 6 shots after his last 3 games, is clear example of the problem. AD even said in the post game that THT needed more looks. Yes we do need to learn to play together with LeBron. As long as we put the ball in a stars hands and get out of the way, we will continue to struggle. And if the energy isn’t dramatically improved it will be a very long season.

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    • Aloha, Michael,

      I don’t see any benefit at this point rehashing what we could or might have done instead of trading for Russ. What’s done is done. We’re not going to admit we made a mistake until the season is over. Like it or not, Russ will be our third superstar and the focus should be on how we resolve the problem.

      Frankly, it’s still early and we’ve only played 7 games with all three superstars so in a way, Russ is right that the three have not played together enough nor with the two players with whom they will likely be starting. We’re making minor adjustments but still have not found the solution and a big part of that is our lack of size without Ariza. Trade will have to be made at deadline.

      Looking over the stats, we’re not seeing good defensive numbers for LeBron and AD on defense. LeBron and AD both rank in the bottom third of the Lakers with negative net ratings. Those are our two best defenders. When Reaves returns, we will have this season’s version of Caruso, which will help. As will Ariza and Nunn. Move them in to replace Bradley, Baze, and Rondo and we will see a dramatic improvement.

      Hopefully, last night was the bottom and we can start to rise. Next three games are must games for this team despite how early in the season we are. Time to play Lakers basketball.

    • Yo Michael. I don’t think there was any way Rob was bringing Dennis back after he snubbed our overly fair extension. Also, water under the bridge at this point. The issues I see are we are overly reliant on either over aged or unproven players. The 37 year old Ariza will simply not be enough to fix the several large issues we have on defense. Too slow to keep up with most SF’s, too small to bang with most PF’s. Nunn will hopefully put Bradley and Rondo to the bench or into an appropriate backup role. I think we need a defensive center not named Dwight Howard who can pop from distance, doesn’t have to be great from 3. That’s enough to keep defenses from over-loading the paint when you consider that all of our superstars are good at getting or working there. The issue is that we’d have to trade other essential players to make that happen and so then you basically ending being the little Dutch boy plugging holes in the dyke only to see more open in other places. No single trade or player can turn this around. The fix has to come from within.

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    Aloha,

    D Fish called this a quality loss on the post game show. And honestly, I agree. With all of the injuries for a team that is still learning to play together, you expect to lose some games. It’s how we have lost some of these games that was disturbing. Not tonight, tonight we played with energy that was missing against the Bulls. When I heard Middleton was back I thought it was going to be tough to win. Yet we had chance.

    Our defense intensity was much better tonight.

    Our lack of free throws is reaching conspiracy levels. AD didn’t get one foul call, even when he was hammered in what easily could have been a flagrant one. We lose this game on free throw discrepancy alone.

    We missed our last 16 3 point shots. That’s unacceptable. We make four and we have a good shot of winning.

    The Bucks did a good job of getting Giannis one on one against smaller players. We really needed to send help.

    We didn’t have enough people diving with the court spaced. When did we got lay ups, we just didn’t do it enough.

    Russ 15 assists 3 turnovers. That’s what we need from Russ.

    I wonder what THT will look like when he shakes the rust off. 25 points and 12 boards. He is averaging 23 and is shooting 40% from 3. Plus he plays hard on both sides of the ball. And he’s still 20. Prediction. Sorry Tom but the Lakers aren’t going to trade him.

    With a healthy LeBron we win tonight. we would win a series in 5 or 6 with a healthy squad.

    I think if LeBron is back against the Celtics we go 4 and 1 on this trip.

    Quality loss?

    Great listen with Pete, Darius, and Mike all loving how the Lakers responded to playing the Bucks without LeBron. Great games by Russ and Talen. Give it a listen if you’re tired with all of the doom and gloom podcasters. These guys are without doubt the best on the Lakers beat.

    Pete pointed out what a great game Russ played with a 5:1 assist-to-turnover and great game management, not a skill that Russ usually shows piositively. If Russ can manage the game like this, it will be a great difference maker for Lakers.

    The three podcasters also loved how THT is enjoying a breakout a week before he will be 21-years old. Played a back-to-back, and didn’t need any workup time to get going. He has hit the ground running. Mike pointed out how when Talen was asked if he thought he would be this good this year, he said he did because he trusted the work he put in, especially the 3-point shooting. Kid needs to start. THT for Bradley and Ariza for Melo will yield the right starting lineup: Russ, THT, LeBron, Ariza, and AD.

    The best part off the podcast was talking about how THT has put the Lakers in the same possition as Kobe did as a young player in that there may be no way to keep him from starting, despite the unproven shooting stroke. They touched what I also thought was important in that he’s the one Lakers two guard who has size and physicality to be the perfect mate to play alongside Russ. They will be the Lakers backcourt of the future if Talen can continue to shoot the three well. THT is the Lakers key to playing small-ball-on-steroids.

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    • Aloha, Michael.

      Great post. I agree with you and Fish 100% that this was a quality loss. Great game by Russ and THT, who should be our starting backcourt once Ariza is back. Good to have another optimistic voice driving conversations on the blog. Thanks, Michael.

      I’ve always said if THT can shoot 40% from three, he will become a Lakers superstar. It’s only 3 games but you have to love what we’ve seen. Love to be wrong and have Talen become untouchable rather than trade bait.

      What we’re seeing from Russ and THT is incredibly exciting for the Lakers this season and long term. I thought Russ showed great restraint and excellent shot selection most of this game. He did a great job taking care of the ball with zero turnover the last three quarters.

      Once we get LeBron back and replace Rondo, Bradley, and Bazemore with Nunn, THT, and Ariza, this team will look completely different. That’s what Lakers fans need to focus on, not the struggles we’re having without LeBron and several key rotation players.

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    Aloha,

    So what do the Lakers actually do at half time? Apparently not much. While it’s up to players to execute, it’s doesn’t appear by the way we come out that any adjustments are ever made. We are -89 in the 3rd. Worst in the league. Yes we have injuries, yes we are learning each other but there is no excuse for this.

    Now sometimes guys just get hot. Derozen was unconscious. Not much you can do when a player is in that kind of zone. Lonzo also had a game well above what he usually brings. Levine got off to a hot start but we finally got a handle on him. There were a lot of contested shots that went in for the Bulls. It happens. The Bulls are last in 3 point makes so perhaps that was part of the strategy. But when the strategy isn’t working, you make adjustments. Unless your the Lakers. But a hot shooting night had nothing to do with our poor transition defense. That was just a lack of hustle.

    The Bulls had a good strategy for AD and it messed with the entire rhythm of the offense. But again there was no counter in the first half at all. We kept trying the same thing over and over again. That is a recipe for disaster. They finally pulled out AD outside and he started doing some damage but we couldn’t stop the Bulls.

    AD’s emotions got the better of him but on the flip side, the ref’s generally allow a player to put their shoe on before resuming play.

    Silver linings? Few. Westbrook had a decent game but I still don’t like him shooting threes. THT had a strong night. He was 4 for 7 from 3 until a couple of forced what the hell 3’s in garbage time. Still 4 for 9 is good. If he keeps that up, he will be fine on the offensive side of the ball.

    Again with all the injuries I can live with a loss if we play as hard as we can. That wasn’t the case again tonight. I’m hoping we get LeBron back soon. Perhaps he can figure it out, because it’s clear that our coaches can’t.

    3rd quarter: Quarter of death

    Aloha,

    So what do the Lakers actually do at half time? Apparently not much. While it’s up to players to execute, it’s doesn’t appear by the way we come out that any adjustments are ever made. We are -89 in the 3rd. Worst in the league. Yes we have injuries, yes we are learning each other but there is no excuse for this.

    Now sometimes guys just get hot. Derozen was unconscious. Not much you can do when a player is in that kind of zone. Lonzo also had a game well above what he usually brings. Levine got off to a hot start but we finally got a handle on him. There were a lot of contested shots that went in for the Bulls. It happens. The Bulls are last in 3 point makes so perhaps that was part of the strategy. But when the strategy isn’t working, you make adjustments. Unless your the Lakers. But a hot shooting night had nothing to do with our poor transition defense. That was just a lack of hustle.

    The Bulls had a good strategy for AD and it messed with the entire rhythm of the offense. But again there was no counter in the first half at all. We kept trying the same thing over and over again. That is a recipe for disaster. They finally pulled out AD outside and he started doing some damage but we couldn’t stop the Bulls.

    AD’s emotions got the better of him but on the flip side, the ref’s generally allow a player to put their shoe on before resuming play.

    Silver linings? Few. Westbrook had a decent game but I still don’t like him shooting threes. THT had a strong night. He was 4 for 7 from 3 until a couple of forced what the hell 3’s in garbage time. Still 4 for 9 is good. If he keeps that up, he will be fine on the offensive side of the ball.

    Again with all the injuries I can live with a loss if we play as hard as we can. That wasn’t the case again tonight. I’m hoping we get LeBron back soon. Perhaps he can figure it out, because it’s clear that our coaches can’t.

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    • Aloha, Michael. I have to agree with you that we have been outcoached last night just like we were against the Blazers. It’s ironic that Frank now wants to go small when we don’t have anybody with size to support AD other than Melo. If there ever was a time to play Dwight or DeAndre alongside AD, it’s right now with Ariza out. It’s like Frank wants AD at the five to fail.

      This team needs LeBron James to play on this road trip. We’ve gone from small ball on steroids to AD and four guards. It’s a different kind of small ball where we depend on guards and not on LeBron and AD dominating their small ball defenders. We do not have the guards to play super small. We need LeBron back. We need him back tomorrow night.

      I’m sure an elite defensive team like the Bucks have seen what the Blazers and Bulls did doubling and tripling AD. Now it’s time for Frank and hiz staff to show they can make the counters needed so that AD doesn’t spend the entire game surrounded and frustrated with the lack of spacing and the team’s ability to make their threes. We need to shoot the three well to beat teams. If we miss, we will lose like last night.

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    Aloha,

    Now nice win, especially for an early start Sunday game. Just a few random thoughts.

    THT looked really good on both sides of the ball. Offensively he looked a little rusty in the first half but looked sharp, attacking for 12 points in the 2nd. It’s going to be huge having him back.

    Malik was also huge. The guy is not only a scorer but he creates for others. He has a great handle and can comfortably fill in at PG if needed.

    Consider this, once Nunn comes back we will have 3 young players that can attack the rim. Wayne and Melo will feast on opens looks. Add LeBron and Westbrook’s ability to get in the paint and it’s going to be fun.

    AD should be in the MVP conversation.

    I don’t like playing Russ and Rondo at the same time. It leaves our back court defense vulnerable.

    Considering we were playing a lot of the game with 4 guards and Ad a lot, we rebounded reasonably well.

    14 turnovers was an improvement but Russ’s 7 turnovers is still to many. His style of plays lends itself to turnovers but there are still to many unforced, careless turnovers.

    I think it was the right move not playing Bazemore. We will need him but his poor offense lately has obviously gotten into his head. He needs to step back and take a breath.

    With THT back and LeBron probably back tomorrow or the next game, I think we will see AD starting going forward. Still wondering what that final starting lineup will look like.

    Random thoughts

    Aloha,

    Now nice win, especially for an early start Sunday game. Just a few random thoughts.

    THT looked really good on both sides of the ball. Offensively he looked a little rusty in the first half but looked sharp, attacking for 12 points in the 2nd. It’s going to be huge having him back.

    Malik was also huge. The guy is not only a scorer but he creates for others. He has a great handle and can comfortably fill in at PG if needed.

    Consider this, once Nunn comes back we will have 3 young players that can attack the rim. Wayne and Melo will feast on opens looks. Add LeBron and Westbrook’s ability to get in the paint and it’s going to be fun.

    AD should be in the MVP conversation.

    I don’t like playing Russ and Rondo at the same time. It leaves our back court defense vulnerable.

    Considering we were playing a lot of the game with 4 guards and Ad a lot, we rebounded reasonably well.

    14 turnovers was an improvement but Russ’s 7 turnovers is still to many. His style of plays lends itself to turnovers but there are still to many unforced, careless turnovers.

    I think it was the right move not playing Bazemore. We will need him but his poor offense lately has obviously gotten into his head. He needs to step back and take a breath.

    With THT back and LeBron probably back tomorrow or the next game, I think we will see AD starting going forward. Still wondering what that final starting lineup will look like.

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    • I forgot mention Wayne. After shooting 3 for 12 in his first 2 games, he’s shot 59% from 3 since. Honestly knowing how this offense goes, I don’t think Buddy would have brought more then Wayne has. Except at 20 mil instead of the vet min.

      • The biggest benefit Buddy would have brought is no trade for Russ. And no, Wayne is not going to replace the 10 threes per game that Buddy will take. He’s averaging 10.8 3PA per game vs. Wayne’s 5.8. There’s a huge difference in the amount of attention teams will pay to Buddy vs. Wayne.

        Takes Wayne and Malik together to match Buddy’s volume 3-point shooting. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Lakers reconsider trading for Buddy at the deadline. They could trade THT, Nunn, and filler for Hield to start at the 2. Would solve much of their spacing issues to have a 39.5% 3-point shooter with 10.5 attempts per game.

        • Tom you are assuming that Buddy would get 10. Looks a game in our offense, which he wouldn’t. Not when the Lakers have AD, LeBron and even Russ, eating first. Melo is playing the same amount of minutes as Buddy and is getting 6.5 shots a game. And he’s been our go to 3 point shooter. Wayne is getting his 5.7 in only 21 minutes. Buddy doesn’t start because he doesn’t play defense. Think Buddy would get a lot of run? Frank benched Monk a while back after 5 minutes because he wasn’t defending. While Wayne isn’t a great defender at least he makes the effort. And if you throw out Wayne’s first two games after injury he’s shooting 59% to Buddys 39%. Oh and they are not going to trade THT and Nunn for him. Two solid defenders who can score and attack the rim are much more valuable. If they want they can plug Ellington into the starting line up. He would offer the same threat as Buddy. He would get as many 3’s in our offense as Buddy would and at a better percentage, and he is a willing defender to boot.

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    A win's a win

    Aloha,

    Well in what has been a disturbing trend the Lakers did their best to help the Heat win. We sent the to the line 35 times and turned the ball 22 times. We took a 5 count with a time out in our pocket, and Russ decides to take a pull up 3 at the end of regulation. But when we weren’t fouling or turning the ball over our defense was pretty good. The Heat only shot 42% and 27% from 3.

    The Heat lost Butler to an ankle. Boo ho we had 6 guys out!

    From 3
    Bradley 5 for 8
    Ellington 4 for 5
    Monk 4 for 7

    How’s that Tom? A little better? They did what they haven’t been doing. Looking to create 3 point opportunities. I think we will be okay from 3.

    Game ball to Malik. One makes the dude dangerous is he is a 3 level scorer with a great handle and the ability to make plays for others. He was able to act as the PG at different times. Whether he starts or comes off the bench, I believe he will play a big role this year.

    Looking ahead I think once we are healthy we could have the best bench in the NBA.

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    • It was a great game, Michael, and yes, I loved seeing our role players launching and hitting critical threes all game long. What jumps out though is Russ and AD and the other players learning how to win without LeBron James. I believe Lakers are keeping LeBron out partly for Russ and Anthony to get this opportunity to learn how to win without him. That’s a weapon the Lakers want to have in their repertoire when the playoffs come.

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    Aloha,

    When you look at Portland’s line, 38% shooting 27% from 3 and out rebounded by 7 you would think we won. It’s just that we were way worse. Portland really tried to keep us in the game but we would have none of it.

    AD looked off from the beginning but I thought it was the thumb but he was sick. The only good news was that he reported the thumb didn’t bother him much.

    Once AD didn’t return, I didn’t think we would come back but I thought we at least see Russ and Melo lead a respectable effort. Melo was off which can happen but Westbrook’s effort was one of the worst I have ever seen from a superstar player.

    I nearly turned the game off after 3 quarters which
    I never do but I decided not to. I wanted to see our 2 way guys play. And I’m glad I did. Sekou looked promising. If there has been one constant over the years it’s our scouting department has been top. Notch. So when they sign a guy out of the blue over guys they brought to camp, I was curious. Hopefully he will develop into a useful player because we need a few cheap young players to develop. It’s hard to win when you turn the roster over every year since LeBron arrived.

    There was so much bad that it’s not even worth talking about. Besides Sekou the only other positives was Monk might have found his rhythm after not shooting well for a few games. It was also good that Ellington got some extended run. He wasn’t great but he needed to get out there and play after missing so much time.

    My glass is still half full. Last night bumped into it, it teetered but didn’t spill. I will not worry too much until we actually have our team back and playing. I won’t really know what we have until that happens. But one big downside is we are 5 and 5 and this is the easiest stretch of the season and the way we have been playing, there isn’t any easy games coming up.

    That was ugly

    Aloha,

    When you look at Portland’s line, 38% shooting 27% from 3 and out rebounded by 7 you would think we won. It’s just that we were way worse. Portland really tried to keep us in the game but we would have none of it.

    AD looked off from the beginning but I thought it was the thumb but he was sick. The only good news was that he reported the thumb didn’t bother him much.

    Once AD didn’t return, I didn’t think we would come back but I thought we at least see Russ and Melo lead a respectable effort. Melo was off which can happen but Westbrook’s effort was one of the worst I have ever seen from a superstar player.

    I nearly turned the game off after 3 quarters which
    I never do but I decided not to. I wanted to see our 2 way guys play. And I’m glad I did. Sekou looked promising. If there has been one constant over the years it’s our scouting department has been top. Notch. So when they sign a guy out of the blue over guys they brought to camp, I was curious. Hopefully he will develop into a useful player because we need a few cheap young players to develop. It’s hard to win when you turn the roster over every year since LeBron arrived.

    There was so much bad that it’s not even worth talking about. Besides Sekou the only other positives was Monk might have found his rhythm after not shooting well for a few games. It was also good that Ellington got some extended run. He wasn’t great but he needed to get out there and play after missing so much time.

    My glass is still half full. Last night bumped into it, it teetered but didn’t spill. I will not worry too much until we actually have our team back and playing. I won’t really know what we have until that happens. But one big downside is we are 5 and 5 and this is the easiest stretch of the season and the way we have been playing, there isn’t any easy games coming up.

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    • “It’s hard to win when you turn the roster over every year since LeBron arrived”. That is a fact and I completely agree with you, Michael. It can lead to a slow start just like we are experiencing now. As for me, I am willing to wait until we get everyone back before I quit on this team. Too many parts need to come together for this team to resemble what was expected of them. Unfortunately, injuries are not letting that happen sooner.
      Thanks for the post.

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