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    Aloha,

    I came into this off season with very low expectations. We had no cap space beyond the mini MLE, only 2 distant 1st round picks, only one sizable expiring contract and no young prospects that would interest a rebuilding team.

    To make matters worse, it is a weak free agent class. When Klay and Derozan are your big targets. That’s tells you how weak it is. And to top it off there have only been a handful of names on the trade block. The silver lining is we did get a very good prospect in a weak draft.

    I guess the good news is, so far we haven’t done anything stupid. Unfortunately Rob has plenty of time left to pull off another boner move.

    I had hoped to add a back up center that can bang and perhaps a decent minimum guy of MLE guy that can help. But since every one of our minimum guys opted in, we don’t even have a roster spot available. And as I look at the few rumored players that maybe available in a trade, I don’t see one that would be a big enough upgrade to justify the cost.

    Look, this is a pretty good team. Health was a big issue. We generally had at least 3 rotation guys out, sometimes 4 and occasionally 5. And we had a coach that didn’t know how to handle it. Once he finally started the unit he should have all year long, we turned it around and was one of the best teams down the stretch. Even in the playoffs we faced a healthy Nuggets team with 3 guys out. While they weren’t stars, the games were so close that even minor contributions could have turned the tide.

    So what do we do? Well, I think we see if we can open up a couple of roster spots and a player or two on the margins. Then hold onto our most tradable assets and see what presents itself as the season progresses. While are not a true contender I think we are a top 6 team. We are already better than the Nuggets and Clippers after they lost important players. We should save our assets for players that could make a difference.

    My biggest fear is that Rob will again blow it and do something stupid. I sincerely hope that doesn’t happen

    Not surprised

    Aloha,

    I came into this off season with very low expectations. We had no cap space beyond the mini MLE, only 2 distant 1st round picks, only one sizable expiring contract and no young prospects that would interest a rebuilding team.

    To make matters worse, it is a weak free agent class. When Klay and Derozan are your big targets. That’s tells you how weak it is. And to top it off there have only been a handful of names on the trade block. The silver lining is we did get a very good prospect in a weak draft.

    I guess the good news is, so far we haven’t done anything stupid. Unfortunately Rob has plenty of time left to pull off another boner move.

    I had hoped to add a back up center that can bang and perhaps a decent minimum guy of MLE guy that can help. But since every one of our minimum guys opted in, we don’t even have a roster spot available. And as I look at the few rumored players that maybe available in a trade, I don’t see one that would be a big enough upgrade to justify the cost.

    Look, this is a pretty good team. Health was a big issue. We generally had at least 3 rotation guys out, sometimes 4 and occasionally 5. And we had a coach that didn’t know how to handle it. Once he finally started the unit he should have all year long, we turned it around and was one of the best teams down the stretch. Even in the playoffs we faced a healthy Nuggets team with 3 guys out. While they weren’t stars, the games were so close that even minor contributions could have turned the tide.

    So what do we do? Well, I think we see if we can open up a couple of roster spots and a player or two on the margins. Then hold onto our most tradable assets and see what presents itself as the season progresses. While are not a true contender I think we are a top 6 team. We are already better than the Nuggets and Clippers after they lost important players. We should save our assets for players that could make a difference.

    My biggest fear is that Rob will again blow it and do something stupid. I sincerely hope that doesn’t happen

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    Aloha,

    Just heard that the Lakers were set to give Klay a 4 year 20 mil per deal but the Warriors would not do a sign and trade with DLO. Thank you Warriors.

    Dr Buss liked stars, so Jeanie likes stars. But there is a difference between having a star resume and still being a star. If we are going to trade DLO we can do better than Klay. He isn’t that guy anymore.

    More Klay

    Aloha,

    Just heard that the Lakers were set to give Klay a 4 year 20 mil per deal but the Warriors would not do a sign and trade with DLO. Thank you Warriors.

    Dr Buss liked stars, so Jeanie likes stars. But there is a difference between having a star resume and still being a star. If we are going to trade DLO we can do better than Klay. He isn’t that guy anymore.

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    • Klay kinda made sense if he was coming here for the full MLE, but even that stretched the logic of what we actually need right now which is to get younger and better. This will likely not happen overnight, thus it’s not a fan-friendly timeline.

      Trading for Klay never made sense to me. You’re just improving the Warriors at that point. Same goes for DeRozan which means he’s basically off the board, too.

    • I have never been on board the Klay and Christ Paul trains. So it is okay with me that they are gone somewhere else. My worry right now is the possibility of us watching from the sidelines white the talent pool is being entirely drained by the time this free-agency dust settles. One thing keeping me hopeful is that we were not that far off from the finals this past two seasons had it not been the mismatch Denver presented us. We just need a few effective tweaks to the roster without losing much in the process.

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    Aloha,

    Well looks like Klay is going to the Mavs at 16 mil per for 3 years. The Mav’s had a trade exception to fit him into. Honestly, my heart isn’t broken. While he would have added value as a MLE signing, I wouldn’t waste trade assets on him. Good on Rob.

    I actually don’t think Rob is doing anything wrong this summer. It’s just that we are in this mess for all the huge mistakes he has made in the past.

    I’m to the point where I don’t know if I would spend our remaining trade assets on a marginal upgrade. It looks like Mitchell will resign with the Cav’s he is the kind of player you spend those picks on. He is a bonafide superstar. Say you trade for Jamari Grant from Portland. Yes he would be an upgrade over Rui but not a game changer.

    If LeBron were smart he would take that pay cut and allow us to sign a couple decent role players with the MLE. An over the hill former star isn’t going to move the needle enough.

    At this point, I wouldn’t mind standing pat with our core and hope guys like Austin and Rui continue to grow, maybe find a signing or two on the margins and save those picks for either a big fish or that rebuild that’s coming sooner than we would like.

    Klay

    Aloha,

    Well looks like Klay is going to the Mavs at 16 mil per for 3 years. The Mav’s had a trade exception to fit him into. Honestly, my heart isn’t broken. While he would have added value as a MLE signing, I wouldn’t waste trade assets on him. Good on Rob.

    I actually don’t think Rob is doing anything wrong this summer. It’s just that we are in this mess for all the huge mistakes he has made in the past.

    I’m to the point where I don’t know if I would spend our remaining trade assets on a marginal upgrade. It looks like Mitchell will resign with the Cav’s he is the kind of player you spend those picks on. He is a bonafide superstar. Say you trade for Jamari Grant from Portland. Yes he would be an upgrade over Rui but not a game changer.

    If LeBron were smart he would take that pay cut and allow us to sign a couple decent role players with the MLE. An over the hill former star isn’t going to move the needle enough.

    At this point, I wouldn’t mind standing pat with our core and hope guys like Austin and Rui continue to grow, maybe find a signing or two on the margins and save those picks for either a big fish or that rebuild that’s coming sooner than we would like.

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    Aloha,

    Well day one is over, and for the Lakers, as David Byrne of the Talking Heads would say “Same as it always was”

    Day one

    Aloha,

    Well day one is over, and for the Lakers, as David Byrne of the Talking Heads would say “Same as it always was”

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    • The the Lakers face tough decisions, balancing star power, cap space, and team needs during this pivotal free agency period. But The pace at which this free-agency signings is going it seems like the well is running dry and the Lakers will be running out options. Within a few days the pipeline is running low enough to get me worried. I am still being optimistic.

    • Seems like Rob thought the office was closed because it was Sunday. But honestly, I didn’t expect us to do much in free agency because we simply didn’t have the cap space. LeBron caused a stir but that was a complicated longshot at best. Time to start looking at trading partners but more than likely we only make lateral moves and end up kicking the can to the trade deadline.

      So yet another year of Rob not getting the job done in summertime and hoping for a miracle in the spring.

      Like the man said….same as it ever was.

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    Aloha

    Trying to keep up with all the updates hitting my phone. Apparently the Lakers are pursuing everyone in the NBA. lol.

    Free agency jiberjaber

    Aloha

    Trying to keep up with all the updates hitting my phone. Apparently the Lakers are pursuing everyone in the NBA. lol.

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    • Yes, the Lakers are casting a wide net. I would like to see them catch a big fish. Michael, what do any of you think of the Pelicans center, Valenciounas?What about Derozan? Which player(s) are you more interested in? A lot is being said about Klay Thompson, but I am weary of his health and the mental toll that goes with it. I am even more weary of Chris Paul. He just can’t seem to play a full season. so, I would like to see us get a center that provides help to AD just like in the Bubble. What do you guys think?

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    Aloha,

    so Lebron would be willing to take a pay cut for Klay Thompson. At the full MLE, Klay is probably worth it, if he can still defend at a reasonable level. But is he really the answer? We have good 3 point shooting and under JJ they will get more looks from 3. lebron is one of the grearest ever to play but as a GM he has been terrible. There is a long list of failed aquistions that Lebron pushed for. anyone remember Westbrook? if he were smart he would realize that splitting the MLE amomg a couple of solid role players would be more benieficial than signing one aging former star. i wont be mad if it happens, I just think we could do better than adding Klay.

    GM LeBron

    Aloha,

    so Lebron would be willing to take a pay cut for Klay Thompson. At the full MLE, Klay is probably worth it, if he can still defend at a reasonable level. But is he really the answer? We have good 3 point shooting and under JJ they will get more looks from 3. lebron is one of the grearest ever to play but as a GM he has been terrible. There is a long list of failed aquistions that Lebron pushed for. anyone remember Westbrook? if he were smart he would realize that splitting the MLE amomg a couple of solid role players would be more benieficial than signing one aging former star. i wont be mad if it happens, I just think we could do better than adding Klay.

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    • It’s not like James Harden, Klay Thompson, and Jonas Valanciunas are the right list. Frankly, it’s who we’re likely to get in trade of the picks that will be more important. LeBron has flipped the pressure totally on Pelinka though and that’s good because Rob needs to be pushed to go all in. Now he has little choice. Make the right smart moves that will fill the holes not just names.

    • Just putting on my conspiracy hat for a second. I think Jeannie & Rob had a chance to wrestle a lil bit of power & control back from Lebron with the Hurley hire. That was clearly a move geared toward the future with Lebron having no influence on the decision. When it fell through, it gave even MORE power to Lebron. Now he’s got his son here (not sure Hurley woulda signed off on that), his coach/puppet JayJay, and now he’s dangling this paycut thing to control free agency. Come at the King you best not miss……(Omar Little).

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    Aloha,

    I was looking at our roster. If Cam and Hayes opt in, that gives us 12 players under contract. I believe the Lakers will bring back Max. He showed some upside and is definitely better than anyone we will land at 55. That’s 13. Unless we use that pick to move up into the early 2nd round for a back up big, should we even use that pick? Everyone is talking about us taking Bronny but he’s a project that will spend most of the year in the G league. If we draft him we are now at 14 players. With one spot left. Now I’m not sure how the new CBA works but there is a rule that prevents you from bundling minimum contracts. Not sure if it applies to the first apron or the 2nd. While the Lakers are looking to make trades, it’s no better than 50/50 they find one. Using 55 on a project doesn’t seem like a smart move.

    Something to think about.

    Aloha,

    I was looking at our roster. If Cam and Hayes opt in, that gives us 12 players under contract. I believe the Lakers will bring back Max. He showed some upside and is definitely better than anyone we will land at 55. That’s 13. Unless we use that pick to move up into the early 2nd round for a back up big, should we even use that pick? Everyone is talking about us taking Bronny but he’s a project that will spend most of the year in the G league. If we draft him we are now at 14 players. With one spot left. Now I’m not sure how the new CBA works but there is a rule that prevents you from bundling minimum contracts. Not sure if it applies to the first apron or the 2nd. While the Lakers are looking to make trades, it’s no better than 50/50 they find one. Using 55 on a project doesn’t seem like a smart move.

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    • You make a great points, Michael.

      The aggregating players is not allowed if you are over the second tax apron. Since we will not do that, we will be able to move some of the jetsam we need to get rid of to open up roster spots.

      I also think it’s not a smart move to draft Bronny as he will be better off charting his own course in the league rather than being tied to his dad. I’m hoping some team drafts him before the Lakers have a chance. That would be the best situation.

      • I don’t think anyone in the James organization sees it that way. Guess we’ll see today, with the new “Bronny Night” of the NBA draft.

        They’re gonna make the Lakers draft him 55. Lebron refuses to sign his extension until they give Jr. a guaranteed deal, which they’ll announce both simultaneously.

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    Aloha,

    If this was a surprise pick for you, it should be. He wasn’t mentioned with the Lakers because nobody anticipated him falling this far. I googled mock draft and scrolled down. 5 mocks had him at 6. One at 8 and one at 10. The panel on draft show were stunned that he hadn’t been picked. Primarily because he’s older but for the Lakers that’s perfect. He was one of the best shooters in the draft and he is a 3 level scorer. And more importantly he is a motion scorer. He can shoot coming off screens. They showed the Lakers war room and they were ecstatic. And they should be. JJ is going to have fun with this guy. .

    Dalton Knecht Lakers were gifted a lottery pick.

    Aloha,

    If this was a surprise pick for you, it should be. He wasn’t mentioned with the Lakers because nobody anticipated him falling this far. I googled mock draft and scrolled down. 5 mocks had him at 6. One at 8 and one at 10. The panel on draft show were stunned that he hadn’t been picked. Primarily because he’s older but for the Lakers that’s perfect. He was one of the best shooters in the draft and he is a 3 level scorer. And more importantly he is a motion scorer. He can shoot coming off screens. They showed the Lakers war room and they were ecstatic. And they should be. JJ is going to have fun with this guy. .

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    Aloha,

    Seeing OG opting out brought back another wonderful Rob memory. Rob backed out of a 3 way trade with the Knicks and Raptors because he didn’t want to send Horton-Tucker to the Raptors. Later Horton-Tucker was his reason for letting Caruso walk because he claimed we couldn’t keep both. Fake news alert: He could have. Adding those moves to his long list makes it extremely difficult for me to have any faith that he can turn the Lakers around. Poor JJ, hardly knew ya.

    OG Anunoby

    Aloha,

    Seeing OG opting out brought back another wonderful Rob memory. Rob backed out of a 3 way trade with the Knicks and Raptors because he didn’t want to send Horton-Tucker to the Raptors. Later Horton-Tucker was his reason for letting Caruso walk because he claimed we couldn’t keep both. Fake news alert: He could have. Adding those moves to his long list makes it extremely difficult for me to have any faith that he can turn the Lakers around. Poor JJ, hardly knew ya.

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    Aloha,

    For those thinking that the Lakers have the assets for a star, think again.

    BREAKING: The Brooklyn Nets have agreed in principle on a trade to send F Mikal Bridges to the New York Knicks for Bojan Bogdanovic, four unprotected first-round picks, a protected first-round pick via Bucks, an unprotected pick swap and a second-rounder, sources

    Bridges to Knicks

    Aloha,

    For those thinking that the Lakers have the assets for a star, think again.

    BREAKING: The Brooklyn Nets have agreed in principle on a trade to send F Mikal Bridges to the New York Knicks for Bojan Bogdanovic, four unprotected first-round picks, a protected first-round pick via Bucks, an unprotected pick swap and a second-rounder, sources

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    • I wonder what this does for OG Anunoby. He opted out of his deal.

    • I don’t know why but anytime I have a certain player in mind that I would like the Lakers to get another team snatches them. OG Anunoby and Mikal Bridges are two players I was hoping to be Lakers, but all those hopes are dashed. I know we don’t have much assets to make trades for such players but sometimes I feel like Rob has been too passive. He’s certainly needs to be visionary if the Lakers are to be relevant.

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    Aloha,

    Perhaps the Lakers have a Rob problem. Put your self in Hurley’s shoes. We all know about the stumbles prior to LeBron so I won’t cover those. Let’s start with LeBron. LeBron arrived we get off to a 20-14 start with a cast of young pups. We are decimated by injuries including LeBron, miss the playoffs and Luke is fired.

    We hire Frank and land AD. We win a ring but over the next 2 years Rob dismantled a championship team. We are decimated by injuries again and Frank gets fired.

    Darvin leads us to the conference finals his first year. We lose a hard caught series this year. We have injuries but the Nuggets are healthy. Darvin gets fired.

    Not a great track record there. Pretty short leash. Now Rob will not fire himself. He will blame the coach. And Jeanie won’t fire him because he’s Kobe’s best friend. I would be very hesitant about walking into that myself. I’m sure Dan looked at that as well.

    Rob problem

    Aloha,

    Perhaps the Lakers have a Rob problem. Put your self in Hurley’s shoes. We all know about the stumbles prior to LeBron so I won’t cover those. Let’s start with LeBron. LeBron arrived we get off to a 20-14 start with a cast of young pups. We are decimated by injuries including LeBron, miss the playoffs and Luke is fired.

    We hire Frank and land AD. We win a ring but over the next 2 years Rob dismantled a championship team. We are decimated by injuries again and Frank gets fired.

    Darvin leads us to the conference finals his first year. We lose a hard caught series this year. We have injuries but the Nuggets are healthy. Darvin gets fired.

    Not a great track record there. Pretty short leash. Now Rob will not fire himself. He will blame the coach. And Jeanie won’t fire him because he’s Kobe’s best friend. I would be very hesitant about walking into that myself. I’m sure Dan looked at that as well.

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    • It’s funny, so many people were warning him about taking the Laker job, but it’s all about the money?

      • I think the money was not the issue. He just did not want to leave. The Lakers should have known that the only way they could have gotten him was a Godfather offer he could not refuse. We were not willing to give him that. Even Jeanie and Rob had to know that 6 for $70M, while fair, was not an offer he could not refuse.

        • If one is happy where they are and feel fulfilled AND you are making 6 mil a year, money just may not be that important to everyone. Besides it looks like he will get a salary bump to boot. Did he give the Lakers an opportunity to counter? Perhaps not if he just didn’t want the job.

          • The Lakers reputation has been tarnished over the years and it’s not what it used to be. there were a lot of voices out there saying he shouldnt take the job.

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    Aloha,

    Perhaps JJ isn’t a shoe in if Hurley declines the offer. Stein wrote that the Lakers might turn their attention to Jay Wright if Hurley doesn’t take the job. The Lakers actually approached Wright about the head coaching job in the past. If true, it means that the Lakers are serious about developing young players. In the new brave world of the new CBA, development of young players is going to become increasingly important.

    Jay Wright?

    Aloha,

    Perhaps JJ isn’t a shoe in if Hurley declines the offer. Stein wrote that the Lakers might turn their attention to Jay Wright if Hurley doesn’t take the job. The Lakers actually approached Wright about the head coaching job in the past. If true, it means that the Lakers are serious about developing young players. In the new brave world of the new CBA, development of young players is going to become increasingly important.

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    Aloha,

    I don’t think the question is how can we get by the Nuggets any longer. The bigger question now is, how do we get by the TWolves next year.

    TWolves

    Aloha,

    I don’t think the question is how can we get by the Nuggets any longer. The bigger question now is, how do we get by the TWolves next year.

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    • Michael you are absolutely right; the Timberwolves are no joke. When they traded all those players for Rudy Gobert it originally felt like a shaky fit. Then all of a sudden it makes a lot of sense. What a feel good story!!

    • Lakers clearly need to evolve back into a two-bigs lineup. Denver and Minnesota make that essential to get out of the West.

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    Aloha,

    Pretty simple. AD tweets his shoulder and score one point in the 2nd half. 9 missed free throws. Ball game. Not much else to say.

    That’s all folks.

    Aloha,

    Pretty simple. AD tweets his shoulder and score one point in the 2nd half. 9 missed free throws. Ball game. Not much else to say.

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    • It was painful….& Davis’ shoulder probably was as well. It’s been very painful since Darvin has been the ultimate “hands off” coach!

    • We should have known, we have LeBron and AD and that’s about it. They both gave us all they had. Bye to DLO and perhaps Reaves, for sure Dinny, Princess, Vinny and all the rest of the bench we keep signing. : (

    • During the game my body kept shaking knowing that every one of those missed free-throws is a missed opportunity. Turns out that is one of the reasons we lost.

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    Aloha,

    The Suns have nearly their entire salary cap wrapped up with just 3 players and they were just swept by the TWolves. I hope Rob is paying attention.

    A cautionary tale

    Aloha,

    The Suns have nearly their entire salary cap wrapped up with just 3 players and they were just swept by the TWolves. I hope Rob is paying attention.

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