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    Aloha, I have been doing some research on Trading Kleber. If you wanted to gamble on Williams heath, you could send our first round pick and Kleber for him. We are far enough under the 2nd apron that we could do the trade taking back salary and still be under. We would be hard capped at that level for the rest of year. That’s okay.
    There would not be much we could do anyway.

    Kleber For Williams?

    Aloha, I have been doing some research on Trading Kleber. If you wanted to gamble on Williams heath, you could send our first round pick and Kleber for him. We are far enough under the 2nd apron that we could do the trade taking back salary and still be under. We would be hard capped at that level for the rest of year. That’s okay.
    There would not be much we could do anyway.

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    Aloha,

    The last couple days have been crazy and who knows who is available anymore. The Warriors have reached out to the Lakers about LeBron again. Now I doubt if LeBron wants to leave but perhaps he could have felt disrespected by the Lakers for not letting him know about the AD trade. After all he has been the de facto GM everywhere he’s been. So what if he did want to end is career with the Warriors. Perhaps a trade would look something like this.

    The Lakers send Lebron and Bronny to the Warriors for Wiggins, Dennis, Kuminga and 2025 first, 2029 first round picks and a 2nd.

    The Lakers send Kuminga, Gabe and our 2031 pick to the Raptors for Poiltl. They get another young building block.

    We send send Poiltl the Warriors 2029 first to the Pacers for Turner. That’s a valuable pick by the way. And they receive the quality starting center they require in a Turner trade.

    Then we send the Nets Wood or Hayes and 2 seconds to the nets for Sharpe.

    We still have a first. Wiggins is an upgrade at defense over Lebron a 2 way back up PG, a quality center to replace at least some of what we lost with the AD trade. and a quality backup center. I actually think we would be a better team. Like I said, I doubt LeBron asks out but if he did this actually isn’t far fetched like a lot of trades you see.

    Silly Season for Tom

    Aloha,

    The last couple days have been crazy and who knows who is available anymore. The Warriors have reached out to the Lakers about LeBron again. Now I doubt if LeBron wants to leave but perhaps he could have felt disrespected by the Lakers for not letting him know about the AD trade. After all he has been the de facto GM everywhere he’s been. So what if he did want to end is career with the Warriors. Perhaps a trade would look something like this.

    The Lakers send Lebron and Bronny to the Warriors for Wiggins, Dennis, Kuminga and 2025 first, 2029 first round picks and a 2nd.

    The Lakers send Kuminga, Gabe and our 2031 pick to the Raptors for Poiltl. They get another young building block.

    We send send Poiltl the Warriors 2029 first to the Pacers for Turner. That’s a valuable pick by the way. And they receive the quality starting center they require in a Turner trade.

    Then we send the Nets Wood or Hayes and 2 seconds to the nets for Sharpe.

    We still have a first. Wiggins is an upgrade at defense over Lebron a 2 way back up PG, a quality center to replace at least some of what we lost with the AD trade. and a quality backup center. I actually think we would be a better team. Like I said, I doubt LeBron asks out but if he did this actually isn’t far fetched like a lot of trades you see.

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    Aloha,

    After watching the Lakers beat the Knicks for our best win of the year, I get a notice on my phone that we traded AD for Luka. Wow, speechless. Who will play center?For those that say Rob isn’t doing enough, well this stunning. Max was also part of the trade and hate that. He gave Brunson all he could handle. This is bizarre.

    Stunned

    Aloha,

    After watching the Lakers beat the Knicks for our best win of the year, I get a notice on my phone that we traded AD for Luka. Wow, speechless. Who will play center?For those that say Rob isn’t doing enough, well this stunning. Max was also part of the trade and hate that. He gave Brunson all he could handle. This is bizarre.

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    Aloha,

    Well that was ugly. Now there is context here. We were ahead when AD went down and Jackson demonstrated again that he shouldn’t be the primary back up to AD. Even Koloko is a better option.

    Then Gabe was still out. Gabe is always in about every trade proposal for a center. But we saw what that would look like with Shake and Bronny as our 2nd unit ball handlers. Both were awful. You can’t trade Gabe unless we do something about another guard as well. At least Gabe’s defense has been pretty good. He would have been helpful against Maxey for sure.

    Vando also would have helped against Maxey but they are not playing him
    on the 2nd night of back to backs yet.

    Now Rui came back but he was on a minute restriction due to the injury recovery. And DFS was in foul trouble and only played 17 minutes.

    Considering it was the 3rd game in 4 days and the 2nd game of a back to back. So They looked tired. One could say that the 76ers had it worse. And they did without PG and Embid but they have been playing surprisingly well. They beat the Cavs without Embid. And the last 3 with PG out as well. They beat a completely healthy Kings team today.

    Can a stat line of 31 points, 8 boards and 9 assists be considered a bad game? Yes, because LeBron accomplished that last night. We gave up 28 points on 22 turnovers and LeBron had 8 of the turnovers. That’s now 13 in the last 2 games. It seemed like every Lebron turnover led to points and so many were just stupid. And it wasn’t just turnovers. For the 2nd game in a row his defense was nonexistent. Even half his points came in the 4th when the game was over. He could use some rest but that probably won’t happen until AD is back.

    So any bright spots? Well Dalton continued his hot shooting but he was picked on, on the defensive end and with so many of our best defenders out or crippled by fouls, it was hard to hide him.

    This game highlighted our biggest weaknesses. We need a decent backup center. I know a lot of folks would like another starting center, but then LeBron would have to guard the 3 and we keep seeing what that looks like.

    What we do need is a center that can defend, rebound and protect the rim at a reasonable level. We are not getting someone like Kessler.

    And unless you love Shake and Bronnys game we could use another playmaking guard and hopefully he can score a little.

    The problem is the trade market currently is stalled. Until Butler, Fox and LaVine situations are settled nothing is going to happen. All these sellers are not only holding out for teams willing to overpay for the few players on the market, they are also waiting to see if they can get a an asset or two by becoming a third or 4th team in one of these trades because they will be complicated deals.

    I don’t see anything happening until the last day or two before the deadline. Hopefully there will be a deal available that can help the Lakers.

    Random Thoughts

    Aloha,

    Well that was ugly. Now there is context here. We were ahead when AD went down and Jackson demonstrated again that he shouldn’t be the primary back up to AD. Even Koloko is a better option.

    Then Gabe was still out. Gabe is always in about every trade proposal for a center. But we saw what that would look like with Shake and Bronny as our 2nd unit ball handlers. Both were awful. You can’t trade Gabe unless we do something about another guard as well. At least Gabe’s defense has been pretty good. He would have been helpful against Maxey for sure.

    Vando also would have helped against Maxey but they are not playing him
    on the 2nd night of back to backs yet.

    Now Rui came back but he was on a minute restriction due to the injury recovery. And DFS was in foul trouble and only played 17 minutes.

    Considering it was the 3rd game in 4 days and the 2nd game of a back to back. So They looked tired. One could say that the 76ers had it worse. And they did without PG and Embid but they have been playing surprisingly well. They beat the Cavs without Embid. And the last 3 with PG out as well. They beat a completely healthy Kings team today.

    Can a stat line of 31 points, 8 boards and 9 assists be considered a bad game? Yes, because LeBron accomplished that last night. We gave up 28 points on 22 turnovers and LeBron had 8 of the turnovers. That’s now 13 in the last 2 games. It seemed like every Lebron turnover led to points and so many were just stupid. And it wasn’t just turnovers. For the 2nd game in a row his defense was nonexistent. Even half his points came in the 4th when the game was over. He could use some rest but that probably won’t happen until AD is back.

    So any bright spots? Well Dalton continued his hot shooting but he was picked on, on the defensive end and with so many of our best defenders out or crippled by fouls, it was hard to hide him.

    This game highlighted our biggest weaknesses. We need a decent backup center. I know a lot of folks would like another starting center, but then LeBron would have to guard the 3 and we keep seeing what that looks like.

    What we do need is a center that can defend, rebound and protect the rim at a reasonable level. We are not getting someone like Kessler.

    And unless you love Shake and Bronnys game we could use another playmaking guard and hopefully he can score a little.

    The problem is the trade market currently is stalled. Until Butler, Fox and LaVine situations are settled nothing is going to happen. All these sellers are not only holding out for teams willing to overpay for the few players on the market, they are also waiting to see if they can get a an asset or two by becoming a third or 4th team in one of these trades because they will be complicated deals.

    I don’t see anything happening until the last day or two before the deadline. Hopefully there will be a deal available that can help the Lakers.

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    • Mostly agree, it was mystifying to me seeing Bronny get PT over Cam who has been decent all season long. Not sure what the rookie head coach was thinking on that one. I have no clue why LeBron is playing like this. I can’t abide a player pining for better teammates and then tossing passes around the court like he’s Globetrotter. You want to be better? Than be better.

      Not sure there’s any deal we’ll be able to make that resolves the issues we currently have. Backup PG now looms large as neither Shake nor Bronny are up to the task this team has set it’s sight’s on.

      The only viable trade chip is Hachimura and, if one is honest, that’s not exactly a blue chip trading prospect. I don’t see Rob and the FO sending out any of our first rounders w/o limitations (1-5 protected, etc.) so that’s another hurdle.

      Add in that the entire league is waiting to see what happens with Beal and Butler and you have a recipe for the Lakers may not get access to any of the players we want. If that’s the case and we’re looking at a lateral instead of a step up…why make a trade at all?

      In general I’ve come to the conclusion that this level of play is our current ceiling with the key players we have. Reaves, Dalton, and Rui are not plus players on defense and neutral, at best. They require significant offensive contributions to justify their PT. Our bets defenders are either new or recovering or in and out because they just can’t stay on the floor. With AD out the defense is going to crater, big time, and we’ll need to see everyone score efficiently and frequently. I just don’t see that happening with this group.

      I think we have some solid building blocks but we’re limited by age and general availability of our best players. Not much anyone can do about that until LeBron hangs ’em up.

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    Aloha,

    This has been a strange year. At times we have looked like we can beat anyone in the NBA but at other times we look like we can lose to anyone in the league. Last night was odd game because we looked like total losers in the first half and winners in the 2nd half. Defense was the main reason for the turn around. We adjusted on Hero and nobody else on the Heat really wasn’t hurting us that much.

    Last night we saw something we have seen a
    Couple of but not often enough. A balanced scoring attack. Rui 23, AD 22, LeBron 22, Max 16, Austin and Gabe 14.

    The Key was Austin. He only took 9 shot but he had 14 assists. I would like to more of this instead of force feeding AD and LeBron. Rui is scoring threat when given the opportunity. He’s been getting 5 or 6 shots a game but was 9- 15 last night. Max is also beginning to be a reliable scorer. After a slow start he’s up to 37% from 3.

    I still have faith in Gabe. It’s not easy missing nearly entire year and come back without any negative effects. Last night he looked like the guy we hoped we were getting. He has had a few games like this but not many, at least on the offensive side.

    Dalton has to get his confidence back if we are going to have any chance considering there isn’t much scoring in the 2nd unit. He was turning down open looks which is never a good sign.

    Not many turnovers. Huge.

    I was a little sad to see Quincy released. I think it was admission that they may not be able to trade for a back up center. The Lakers listed Trey Jemison the guy they signed to a 2 way contract at 6’11 and 275 pounds. He is a young guy that looked pretty good as a rebounder and shot blocker last year with the Grizz.

    Why do we need a back up. Here is Jackson’s in the last 7 games since coming back. He has total 18 points, 14 rebounds and 3 blocks. The opponents back up centers have totaled 41 points, 46 rebounds and 6 blocks. Jackson has been played off the court several time by big centers. Jackson only weighs 220. Steven Adams out weighed Jackson by 45 pounds of muscle. JJ tried both LeBron and Rui on Adams, both are stronger than Jackson, Adams was a handful for both LeBron and Rui.

    If we can’t trade for a center we have enough cap space that we could cut a player and sign Jemison for less than a million. Leaving us enough to cut another player and add someone in the buyout market.

    I watched the Thunder dismantle the Cavs without Hartenstein. They were up 38 after 3. Once Chet and Hartenstein are both healthy, the only hope the rest of the Western Conference has is 5 or 6 high ankle sprains on the Thunder during the playoffs.

    The Lakers have said they will not use their first round picks unless it’s for a difference maker that will be the team the next 5 years. I.E a young player. There isn’t anyone even any 2 players available that I feel would elevate the team to contend with OKC. I don’t mind moving the 2nds. Both are next year and if the season ended today the world be the 50 and 51picks. So the odds of drafting a star are slim to none.

    Considering the market we may not even be able to find a trade for them. I’m mean even Jonas in Washington has 3 or 4 teams interested in him. This is the new reality of the NBA trade season.

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    Aloha,

    This has been a strange year. At times we have looked like we can beat anyone in the NBA but at other times we look like we can lose to anyone in the league. Last night was odd game because we looked like total losers in the first half and winners in the 2nd half. Defense was the main reason for the turn around. We adjusted on Hero and nobody else on the Heat really wasn’t hurting us that much.

    Last night we saw something we have seen a
    Couple of but not often enough. A balanced scoring attack. Rui 23, AD 22, LeBron 22, Max 16, Austin and Gabe 14.

    The Key was Austin. He only took 9 shot but he had 14 assists. I would like to more of this instead of force feeding AD and LeBron. Rui is scoring threat when given the opportunity. He’s been getting 5 or 6 shots a game but was 9- 15 last night. Max is also beginning to be a reliable scorer. After a slow start he’s up to 37% from 3.

    I still have faith in Gabe. It’s not easy missing nearly entire year and come back without any negative effects. Last night he looked like the guy we hoped we were getting. He has had a few games like this but not many, at least on the offensive side.

    Dalton has to get his confidence back if we are going to have any chance considering there isn’t much scoring in the 2nd unit. He was turning down open looks which is never a good sign.

    Not many turnovers. Huge.

    I was a little sad to see Quincy released. I think it was admission that they may not be able to trade for a back up center. The Lakers listed Trey Jemison the guy they signed to a 2 way contract at 6’11 and 275 pounds. He is a young guy that looked pretty good as a rebounder and shot blocker last year with the Grizz.

    Why do we need a back up. Here is Jackson’s in the last 7 games since coming back. He has total 18 points, 14 rebounds and 3 blocks. The opponents back up centers have totaled 41 points, 46 rebounds and 6 blocks. Jackson has been played off the court several time by big centers. Jackson only weighs 220. Steven Adams out weighed Jackson by 45 pounds of muscle. JJ tried both LeBron and Rui on Adams, both are stronger than Jackson, Adams was a handful for both LeBron and Rui.

    If we can’t trade for a center we have enough cap space that we could cut a player and sign Jemison for less than a million. Leaving us enough to cut another player and add someone in the buyout market.

    I watched the Thunder dismantle the Cavs without Hartenstein. They were up 38 after 3. Once Chet and Hartenstein are both healthy, the only hope the rest of the Western Conference has is 5 or 6 high ankle sprains on the Thunder during the playoffs.

    The Lakers have said they will not use their first round picks unless it’s for a difference maker that will be the team the next 5 years. I.E a young player. There isn’t anyone even any 2 players available that I feel would elevate the team to contend with OKC. I don’t mind moving the 2nds. Both are next year and if the season ended today the world be the 50 and 51picks. So the odds of drafting a star are slim to none.

    Considering the market we may not even be able to find a trade for them. I’m mean even Jonas in Washington has 3 or 4 teams interested in him. This is the new reality of the NBA trade season.

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    Aloha,
    If you are why Rob hasn’t got anything else done the Hornets traded Richards to the Suns for 3 2nd round picks and Josh Okogie. Okogie is a good young defensive minded wing who has also raised his 3 point percentage to 38%

    The Lakers had interest in Richards but in the NBA brave new world, they couldn’t compete with an offer like that.

    Richards Trade

    Aloha,
    If you are why Rob hasn’t got anything else done the Hornets traded Richards to the Suns for 3 2nd round picks and Josh Okogie. Okogie is a good young defensive minded wing who has also raised his 3 point percentage to 38%

    The Lakers had interest in Richards but in the NBA brave new world, they couldn’t compete with an offer like that.

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    • This is why I’m thinking we’re probably not going to make any more trades in season. I’m just mulling over the difference between DFS and Richard’s. I think, in the long run, DFS is a better overall fit but it’s closer than I want it to be.

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    Aloha,

    It’s trade season again but not much is going on. There have been only two meaningful trades and the Laker had one of them with the trade for DFS.

    No one believes we are done yet. A quality backup center is the top priority. I can single out at least 3 games we lost because we didn’t have one. Our other need is at least a decent backup PG with some offense. Our 2nd unit doesn’t have a lot of scorers.

    Unfortunately things have changed. The new CBA has made it extremely difficult to get trades done. And the play in game has cut down the number of sellers.

    And this is what makes it weird. The play off race is so tightly packed that that there isn’t the urgency yet to make a deal. For instance the Spurs are in the 12th seed but only 3 games out of the 6th.

    And the bottom feeders are tightly packed as well. Only a couple of games separate the worst teams from the very bottom. So the sellers are not motivated at this time either. I believe they are all holding out for overpays.

    I doubt the Lakers will overpay. Primarily because there isn’t a Trade that would catapult them into true championship contender status with OKC or the Cavs.

    The Lakers have said they will only trade a first for a player that will play the next 4 or 5 years with the Lakers. That eliminates a substantial amount of the rumored players. Kessler fits that timeline but he may not even be on the market. And if he is, don’t expect him to be moved until the last possible minute. Danny will hold out as long as possible. Although I don’t think he will get multiple firsts because Kessler isn’t that good.

    So I guess we wait. That maybe best anyway. Maybe other players become available. Or perhaps one of the sellers becomes realistic like the Nets did and let a guy go at a fair price. As much as our backup center situation is killing me It will also be good to see how we look with a healthy squad.

    I will be surprised if we see anything happen for another couple of weeks but would be delighted if something did.

    Weird year

    Aloha,

    It’s trade season again but not much is going on. There have been only two meaningful trades and the Laker had one of them with the trade for DFS.

    No one believes we are done yet. A quality backup center is the top priority. I can single out at least 3 games we lost because we didn’t have one. Our other need is at least a decent backup PG with some offense. Our 2nd unit doesn’t have a lot of scorers.

    Unfortunately things have changed. The new CBA has made it extremely difficult to get trades done. And the play in game has cut down the number of sellers.

    And this is what makes it weird. The play off race is so tightly packed that that there isn’t the urgency yet to make a deal. For instance the Spurs are in the 12th seed but only 3 games out of the 6th.

    And the bottom feeders are tightly packed as well. Only a couple of games separate the worst teams from the very bottom. So the sellers are not motivated at this time either. I believe they are all holding out for overpays.

    I doubt the Lakers will overpay. Primarily because there isn’t a Trade that would catapult them into true championship contender status with OKC or the Cavs.

    The Lakers have said they will only trade a first for a player that will play the next 4 or 5 years with the Lakers. That eliminates a substantial amount of the rumored players. Kessler fits that timeline but he may not even be on the market. And if he is, don’t expect him to be moved until the last possible minute. Danny will hold out as long as possible. Although I don’t think he will get multiple firsts because Kessler isn’t that good.

    So I guess we wait. That maybe best anyway. Maybe other players become available. Or perhaps one of the sellers becomes realistic like the Nets did and let a guy go at a fair price. As much as our backup center situation is killing me It will also be good to see how we look with a healthy squad.

    I will be surprised if we see anything happen for another couple of weeks but would be delighted if something did.

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    • I don’t see us doing much more, the criteria you mention shuts down a good 90% of the trades I see floating around. I honestly think, given how the vast majority of players that seem available at the backup 5 have massive limitations that could result in them getting benched in a playoff series or 4, I find it highly unlikely we trade for one without bringing back a player the development staff digs, too. That shrinks the pool to a mere puddle.

    • Agree on Kessler, Utah holds every card in that game. He’s under contract next season and this feels like the 2 year Lauri M saga that dragged all the way up to…an extension. So much sound and fury, signifying nothing. Not sure why Danny would hold out for a “fair” deal and we can’t afford to overpay for someone who hasn’t been truly tested. Just don’t see it happening…this season.

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    Bench Bench Bench

    Aloha, It always sucks when you lose a game that we could have won.  We didn’t match their energy to start the game. But we actually ahead when our reserves began to trickle in. Max did a pretty good job on Green. Green had 5 points when Shake came in for Max. Green scored 13 more in the last 4 minutes. When you look at all of our starters had positive plus minus. Poor LeBron had a minus 13 because he spent the most time of the reserves. A little comparison: Hayes -7 in 6 minutes Milton -16 in 5 minutes Reddish -12 in 4 minutes Dalton was only -3 but he didn’t score in 17 minutes. He really needs too score to stay on the floor. Now the Rockers all of there starters had a minus except for Thompson who was a plus1. And their bench? Adams +17 in 17 minutes 8 boards with 6 offensive. Tate +14 in 15 minutes Dalton Holiday +10 in 12 minutes Their bench out scored ours 29 to 16 DFS had 13 of those points. They killed with 28 2nd chance points but a lot of that was their 2nd unit. Now Game would have been much better than Milton and when Vando comes back he will be better than Cam. Still the focus for the front office should be shoring up the 2nd unit. And priority one needs to be a back up center and don’t wait. There just no way that Jackson can contend with physical centers. The Rockets started the 4th on a 10 run. Jackson missed 2 bunnies, gave a a follow up 2 point offensive board by Adams and another offensive board before JJ yanked him. The center doesn’t have to be a starter. Sharpe with Nets and Richard’s with the Hornets. Both weigh between 250 and 260. Both are great rebounders and rim protectors. The front office wants to wait and see what need after seeing what we look like once our injured players return. But none of those are the back up center we need.

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    Aloha,

    This was a good win. It really feels like this team is really coming together. And it was a team effort. We shot the ball well. 43% from 3 and 49% overall. And 5 guys were in double figures.

    the Hawks are not a good defensive team. But it was our defense that impressed me the most. The Hawks are a very good offensive team. They are 5th in the league in scoring at 117 a game and we held them to 102. We also out rebounded them by 17 boards. If We didn’t have turnover issues again we would have won by more than 17.

    We are now 4th in the west and climbing. The DFS trade was a great move that will pay off more as he becomes familiar with our system.

    I believe we have a real shot at the 4th seed.

    Good Win now 4th in the west

    Aloha,

    This was a good win. It really feels like this team is really coming together. And it was a team effort. We shot the ball well. 43% from 3 and 49% overall. And 5 guys were in double figures.

    the Hawks are not a good defensive team. But it was our defense that impressed me the most. The Hawks are a very good offensive team. They are 5th in the league in scoring at 117 a game and we held them to 102. We also out rebounded them by 17 boards. If We didn’t have turnover issues again we would have won by more than 17.

    We are now 4th in the west and climbing. The DFS trade was a great move that will pay off more as he becomes familiar with our system.

    I believe we have a real shot at the 4th seed.

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    • I agree with you about our having an excellent shot at locking up the fourth seed (or even third or second seed, depending on how the Grizzlies and Rockets next couple of weeks.

      The key is we’re starting to see some consistency both from LeBron and AD but most importantly from our other key contributors like Reaves, Christie, Knecht, Hayes, Koloko and certainly DFS. One thing we can do now is beat the teams we’re supposed to beat.

      Suddenly, Lakers are playing top-10 defense over last 11 games and have a chance to consolidate their hold on #4 see over next 9 games, starting with Texas roadie 2-step. This could a statement road trip for the Lakers if they can beat a team right in front of them and one right on their heels.

      What’s encouraging and discouraging is we’ve seen elite offense and elite defense from this team but never at the same time. We know we can be good or even elite at both so the challenge from JJ is to do but with a defense-first mentality. Your offense can come and go but defense must always be there. That’s a championship proven stance. We’re slowly working to get there but will need Rob’s help to do it.

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    Aloha,

    While we lost last night, I was encouraged by a few things.

    First our starters beat their starters and that is one of the best starting units in the game. And we got enough good looks but be had some bad luck. Rui had two 3’s go in and out and Max and Dalton had two as well. Lebron and Cam each had one. Like they say, close but no cigar.

    The problem was their bench beat ours by 20. This is our biggest problem that needs to be addressed. Struss beat our bench by himself. Once Shake and DFS our integrated into the offense that will help. And Wood can score and he will be back soon. Since there isn’t many microwave scorers out there, I think it’s kind of up to Dalton. Hopefully he can regain his confidence. He has demonstrated that he can score in a variety of ways but we really needs his 3 ball to start falling.

    It’s looking more and more like we have our point guard and 3rd star in Austin. He’s over 18 ppg now and his assist numbers are rising. With DLO gone, that should continue. He was great again as a scorer and play maker, against one of the best defenses in the league. He’s fearless and successfully challenged their bigs inside and won. One columnist called him Luka light. I agree with that. Neither are particularly quick but they each have the handles and IQ to manipulate defenses.

    I look at the rumored available players for trades and I don’t see any that will elevate us enough to be worth a first round pick. Even Kessler wouldn’t be a great fit next to AD. While Danny would trade his children for the right price, it might take more to get Kessler then one his kids.

    I think adding DFS and Shake allows us to wait and see who might become available. At some point we will need to address the back up big spot and perhaps look for another 2nd unit scorer. If we did a 2 for one trade for the backup center we could look at Lonnie Walker who is drawing a lot of interest from multiple teams as he plays overseas.

    It’s not often that I’m encouraged by a loss but I was this time. I even thought the defense was pretty good. It’s just that they made a lot of tough contested shots, so you have to tip your hat. And with Vando back very soon he could have helped with our Struss problem. The Cavs went 18 and one in December and have lost only 4 times. To trade runs with them like we did. Gives some hope that as we become more familiar with JJ’s system and maybe more growth from the young guys, we may end up in the top 3 to 6. And if you get there, who knows what could happen. I’m not saying we are a true contender yet but I think we’re closer then we have been this season.

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    Aloha,

    While we lost last night, I was encouraged by a few things.

    First our starters beat their starters and that is one of the best starting units in the game. And we got enough good looks but be had some bad luck. Rui had two 3’s go in and out and Max and Dalton had two as well. Lebron and Cam each had one. Like they say, close but no cigar.

    The problem was their bench beat ours by 20. This is our biggest problem that needs to be addressed. Struss beat our bench by himself. Once Shake and DFS our integrated into the offense that will help. And Wood can score and he will be back soon. Since there isn’t many microwave scorers out there, I think it’s kind of up to Dalton. Hopefully he can regain his confidence. He has demonstrated that he can score in a variety of ways but we really needs his 3 ball to start falling.

    It’s looking more and more like we have our point guard and 3rd star in Austin. He’s over 18 ppg now and his assist numbers are rising. With DLO gone, that should continue. He was great again as a scorer and play maker, against one of the best defenses in the league. He’s fearless and successfully challenged their bigs inside and won. One columnist called him Luka light. I agree with that. Neither are particularly quick but they each have the handles and IQ to manipulate defenses.

    I look at the rumored available players for trades and I don’t see any that will elevate us enough to be worth a first round pick. Even Kessler wouldn’t be a great fit next to AD. While Danny would trade his children for the right price, it might take more to get Kessler then one his kids.

    I think adding DFS and Shake allows us to wait and see who might become available. At some point we will need to address the back up big spot and perhaps look for another 2nd unit scorer. If we did a 2 for one trade for the backup center we could look at Lonnie Walker who is drawing a lot of interest from multiple teams as he plays overseas.

    It’s not often that I’m encouraged by a loss but I was this time. I even thought the defense was pretty good. It’s just that they made a lot of tough contested shots, so you have to tip your hat. And with Vando back very soon he could have helped with our Struss problem. The Cavs went 18 and one in December and have lost only 4 times. To trade runs with them like we did. Gives some hope that as we become more familiar with JJ’s system and maybe more growth from the young guys, we may end up in the top 3 to 6. And if you get there, who knows what could happen. I’m not saying we are a true contender yet but I think we’re closer then we have been this season.

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    • Good observations, Michal. All spot on. There are two ways to upgrade your bench. One is to out and trade for some solid bench players who can step right into your rotation.

      The problem with that approach is it does not solve the issues with the starting lineup. At the least, we need a proven POA guard to start next to Reaves. I do think DFS could fit as third starter in place of Rui to solidify the front court although the better and more visionary solution is somebody like Turner.

      Lakers need to solve bench issue by upgrading two starters. DFS could be one. Somebody like Dejounte Murray or Myles Turner could be a second. Bottom line, upgrading the starting lineup will move a player or two to boost the bench

      • While Rui may get traded, Max should be coming off the bench for us like Knecht if we want to have a championship caliber roster. While he’s not the stretch five I would prefer, Kessler is so good defensively and so young and cheap that he’s probably worth the two picks because it also means being able to keep guys like Rui, Gabe, Max, and Vando, who may not be good enough to start on a championship team but are clearly good enough to come off the bench for a legitimate contender.

        • Aloha Tom, Turner is not on the trade block. After a slow start, the Pacers have begun to turn it around. They have had several good wins recently including the Celtics and they are now only a couple of games out of the 6th seed. Plus Thomas Bryant is their only other center and they aren’t making the playoffs with him at center. As for Murray well I’m glad we didn’t get him because he sucks. Hes never been a great shooter but this years he’s shooting 25% from 3 and 35% from the field. I’m not giving up 29 mil in contracts and even one first for that. I’m okay with Max. Defensively he’s been really good on defense. Other options out there suck to. Lonzo really sucks this year. Smart has not been been good when he’s actually able to play. And Bruce Brown sucked last year and has only played one game this year. I’m willing to wait to see who else might become available.

    • Need reliable 3 shooters IMHO. JJ also needs to have us focus on the defense of other teams that shoot 3 well. We seem to be scrambling when it comes to that and we ain’t so good at that.

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    Aloha,

    Well it appears that Rob isn’t just sitting around after all. DLO goes to the Nets, along with Lewis for Finney-Smith and Shake Milton. This is a good deal for the Lakers giving them a quality 3 and D wing. I’m a little disappointed that they didn’t bring back Sharpe as a back up center, because they could have fit his salary in instead of Milton. They will be around 2 and 1/2 mil under the 2nd apron that could be helpful. We also gave up 3 2nds but no firsts. So we still have those to work with.

    Rob kind of reminds me of Mitch in one respect. He never shows his hand. Everyone thought we were trading for Buddy but he trades for Russ. The Rui, DLo and Vando trades came out of the blue. And now this one. We still need a back up center. I’m hoping that will happen soon.

    DLO traded!

    Aloha,

    Well it appears that Rob isn’t just sitting around after all. DLO goes to the Nets, along with Lewis for Finney-Smith and Shake Milton. This is a good deal for the Lakers giving them a quality 3 and D wing. I’m a little disappointed that they didn’t bring back Sharpe as a back up center, because they could have fit his salary in instead of Milton. They will be around 2 and 1/2 mil under the 2nd apron that could be helpful. We also gave up 3 2nds but no firsts. So we still have those to work with.

    Rob kind of reminds me of Mitch in one respect. He never shows his hand. Everyone thought we were trading for Buddy but he trades for Russ. The Rui, DLo and Vando trades came out of the blue. And now this one. We still need a back up center. I’m hoping that will happen soon.

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    • Re: “We still need a back up center. I’m hoping that will happen soon.”
      I’ll say Amen to that. Thank you, Michael!

    • I’m not as surprised seeing as we sent out DLO and Vincent is out with another injury (back spasms which can be tricky to manage and if I know our training staff they’ll be flummoxed…). Also we don’t know if’n taking Shake and his 3 year deal was the tipping point to get the deal done for just 2nd rounders. I give the deal a B+, great for the cap, improved areas of need and if we can get Hayes back soon I’m personally less concerned about the backup center position.

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    Aloha,

    Last night we saw a duel between Austin and the guy many want to trade him for the Kings Fox. Austin had 26points on 9-16 shooting and 3/4 from 3 with 16 assists. Fox came in with 29 points on 12-25 shooting and 1-9 from 3 and 12 assists. Now Fox is an all star and better then Austin at this point although he’s not a good 3 point shooter at 32% But the question is, is he so much better that he is worth trading Austin, DLO and Dalton along with 2 first round picks and perhaps some swaps. The answer to that question is no.

    We have won the last two missing one of our stars. No AD on Christmas which is a highly intense game regardless of who you are playing and last nights Kings game could have been a trap game after Mike Browns firing. You knew the Kings would play hard and they did.

    So here’s the deal, when we are missing a star we play a more team oriented game. And it shows how much talent we actually have. With missing stars, Austin stepped into the 2nd star role and played like one.

    Rui moved up to the 3rd option and scored 18 and 21. He went 9 for 12 from 3 over the 2 games. He’s our best 3 point shooter at 45%. One would think a team would try to get him 6 3’s a game. His defense has also become pretty good. He had another 2 blocks and a steal last night.

    Max is growing before our eyes. Holding his own defensively against some of the best players in the world. He also scored 16 in the last 2 games.

    Dalton had 18 and hit a couple of 3’s which is a good sign.

    All of this around AD’s 36 and 16. For me, it begs the question. WHY CAN’T WE PLAY THIS KIND OF TEAM BALL WITH BOTH OF OUR STARS ON THE COURT?

    If played like this as a team when both LeBron and AD are available, we would be a much more dangerous team.

    Hopefully both Wood and Vando will be back soon. It would almost be like a trade since neither have played this year. Vando gives us another defender and Wood gives us a big that can play with AD at times.

    Speaking of trades, I really don’t know what they will do. It’s kind of funny that the Lakers are linked to every player rumored to be on the trade block.

    Our good play does buy time for the trade prices of some of these guys to go down. I would like to find a back up center right away. We were lucky that AD got hurt against the Warriors because they play small. We would not be as lucky against other teams.

    There are a couple of centers that could help . Both Sharpe with the Nets and Richard’s of the Hornets are both good rim protectors and rebounders with bulk. Either would be an upgrade over Hayes . We desperately need a defensive center when AD is not on the floor. And either one of these guys can be had for a 2nd round pick or 2. Center is one position that we have leverage because there are more centers available than teams that need one.

    LeBron should be fresh again for the Cav’s. Looking at the schedule, there games against bad teams that if he sat out he could get 4 or 5 days rest. We need to take advantage of those games.

    With almost an entire month of home games coming up, this is a time when we can begin to stack some wins. We appear to playing well at the right time. I think we can move into the top 4
    If we play as team, like the last couple of games.

    Random Thoughts

    Aloha,

    Last night we saw a duel between Austin and the guy many want to trade him for the Kings Fox. Austin had 26points on 9-16 shooting and 3/4 from 3 with 16 assists. Fox came in with 29 points on 12-25 shooting and 1-9 from 3 and 12 assists. Now Fox is an all star and better then Austin at this point although he’s not a good 3 point shooter at 32% But the question is, is he so much better that he is worth trading Austin, DLO and Dalton along with 2 first round picks and perhaps some swaps. The answer to that question is no.

    We have won the last two missing one of our stars. No AD on Christmas which is a highly intense game regardless of who you are playing and last nights Kings game could have been a trap game after Mike Browns firing. You knew the Kings would play hard and they did.

    So here’s the deal, when we are missing a star we play a more team oriented game. And it shows how much talent we actually have. With missing stars, Austin stepped into the 2nd star role and played like one.

    Rui moved up to the 3rd option and scored 18 and 21. He went 9 for 12 from 3 over the 2 games. He’s our best 3 point shooter at 45%. One would think a team would try to get him 6 3’s a game. His defense has also become pretty good. He had another 2 blocks and a steal last night.

    Max is growing before our eyes. Holding his own defensively against some of the best players in the world. He also scored 16 in the last 2 games.

    Dalton had 18 and hit a couple of 3’s which is a good sign.

    All of this around AD’s 36 and 16. For me, it begs the question. WHY CAN’T WE PLAY THIS KIND OF TEAM BALL WITH BOTH OF OUR STARS ON THE COURT?

    If played like this as a team when both LeBron and AD are available, we would be a much more dangerous team.

    Hopefully both Wood and Vando will be back soon. It would almost be like a trade since neither have played this year. Vando gives us another defender and Wood gives us a big that can play with AD at times.

    Speaking of trades, I really don’t know what they will do. It’s kind of funny that the Lakers are linked to every player rumored to be on the trade block.

    Our good play does buy time for the trade prices of some of these guys to go down. I would like to find a back up center right away. We were lucky that AD got hurt against the Warriors because they play small. We would not be as lucky against other teams.

    There are a couple of centers that could help . Both Sharpe with the Nets and Richard’s of the Hornets are both good rim protectors and rebounders with bulk. Either would be an upgrade over Hayes . We desperately need a defensive center when AD is not on the floor. And either one of these guys can be had for a 2nd round pick or 2. Center is one position that we have leverage because there are more centers available than teams that need one.

    LeBron should be fresh again for the Cav’s. Looking at the schedule, there games against bad teams that if he sat out he could get 4 or 5 days rest. We need to take advantage of those games.

    With almost an entire month of home games coming up, this is a time when we can begin to stack some wins. We appear to playing well at the right time. I think we can move into the top 4
    If we play as team, like the last couple of games.

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    Aloha,

    28 points off of turnovers. Ball game.

    20 turnovers

    Aloha,

    28 points off of turnovers. Ball game.

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    • Yep! As usual, this time Reaves with 6. Drive and dish AR, drive and dish. Note when we bring the ball up s l o w l y, some one is open on the wing for a 3, but we just run a stupid play.

    • When I saw the turnovers piling up in the first half that’s when I knew the game was over.

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    Aloha,

    Now that was fun. Our defense continues to roll along and what’s the most impressive, it’s been shutting down very good offenses. We are now the 5th seed in a very tight western conference. If there is going to be a trade or two, the way we are playing Rob can wait for a better deal. Just a few thoughts.

    For me this might have been LeBrons best game, primarily because he was pretty engaged on defense, with the exception of a couple of uncontested Murray 3’s. On a night where the Kings were determined to not let AD score, he repeatedly attacked the holes that was created all the way to the rim.

    Rui hasn’t shot the ball well the last 2 games but he was still huge in both games. There is a good reason why despite Laker Tom’s best efforts, he is not on the trade block unless it’s for a superstar. He has become a very good defender and can guard 3 through 5 like last night. Neither Murray or Derozan could do much against him and he held his own against Sobonis when we went small. And he has been great on the boards as well. That game winning tap out is something he has been doing all year. What made that even more special was he moved Sabonis under the basket to get to the ball and Sabonis is a strong dude. But so is Rui.

    Over the last 10 games or so, DLO seems to have rediscovered his offense. He had another fine game and he competed on defense as well. He is always mentioned in pretty much every trade but they better have a plan for the second unit because he is most of our offense on that unit.

    Gabe has been looking like the guy we were hoping to get when we signed him last year. He plays tough defense and his shot has been falling. The last 2 games he went 6 for 8 from 3 and one miss was a half court heave at the buzzer.

    Man it’s a shame that Cam can’t find his offense. Because he has been playing some great defense. And he came up with 2 big offensive boards.

    AD had a big game on defense and rebounding. I really wasn’t that concerned about his scoring because they sent two or three guys at him all night, which allowed Lebron to score at the rim pretty much whenever he wanted to.

    Austin is definitely this teams glue guy as he does a little bit of everything including completing on defense. It’s no wonder we struggled during those 5 games he missed. He’s perfect as our 3rd option.

    One sour note for me was turnovers. On paper 13 turnovers isn’t bad, but as usual it was the kind of turnovers that is maddening. I counted at least 6 of what I call WTF turnovers. Sloppy unbelievable turnovers that lead to easy baskets. A lazy out of bounds pass by AD. A couple of passes by LeBron that I couldn’t figure out who he was passing to. A fumbled hand off, a 5 second count. He goes on and on. The Kings had 12 points off of turnovers in the first half alone. Stupid turnovers kept the game close and continues to plague the team.

    If we can pick up a couple of wins at least he end of the month it could set us up for a great January where we are home for almost all of the month. Go Lakers.

    A few thoughts

    Aloha,

    Now that was fun. Our defense continues to roll along and what’s the most impressive, it’s been shutting down very good offenses. We are now the 5th seed in a very tight western conference. If there is going to be a trade or two, the way we are playing Rob can wait for a better deal. Just a few thoughts.

    For me this might have been LeBrons best game, primarily because he was pretty engaged on defense, with the exception of a couple of uncontested Murray 3’s. On a night where the Kings were determined to not let AD score, he repeatedly attacked the holes that was created all the way to the rim.

    Rui hasn’t shot the ball well the last 2 games but he was still huge in both games. There is a good reason why despite Laker Tom’s best efforts, he is not on the trade block unless it’s for a superstar. He has become a very good defender and can guard 3 through 5 like last night. Neither Murray or Derozan could do much against him and he held his own against Sobonis when we went small. And he has been great on the boards as well. That game winning tap out is something he has been doing all year. What made that even more special was he moved Sabonis under the basket to get to the ball and Sabonis is a strong dude. But so is Rui.

    Over the last 10 games or so, DLO seems to have rediscovered his offense. He had another fine game and he competed on defense as well. He is always mentioned in pretty much every trade but they better have a plan for the second unit because he is most of our offense on that unit.

    Gabe has been looking like the guy we were hoping to get when we signed him last year. He plays tough defense and his shot has been falling. The last 2 games he went 6 for 8 from 3 and one miss was a half court heave at the buzzer.

    Man it’s a shame that Cam can’t find his offense. Because he has been playing some great defense. And he came up with 2 big offensive boards.

    AD had a big game on defense and rebounding. I really wasn’t that concerned about his scoring because they sent two or three guys at him all night, which allowed Lebron to score at the rim pretty much whenever he wanted to.

    Austin is definitely this teams glue guy as he does a little bit of everything including completing on defense. It’s no wonder we struggled during those 5 games he missed. He’s perfect as our 3rd option.

    One sour note for me was turnovers. On paper 13 turnovers isn’t bad, but as usual it was the kind of turnovers that is maddening. I counted at least 6 of what I call WTF turnovers. Sloppy unbelievable turnovers that lead to easy baskets. A lazy out of bounds pass by AD. A couple of passes by LeBron that I couldn’t figure out who he was passing to. A fumbled hand off, a 5 second count. He goes on and on. The Kings had 12 points off of turnovers in the first half alone. Stupid turnovers kept the game close and continues to plague the team.

    If we can pick up a couple of wins at least he end of the month it could set us up for a great January where we are home for almost all of the month. Go Lakers.

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    • Very good post, Michael! I agree with everything stated, especially on turnovers. Everybody knows how I dislike that. We’ve lost a few games due to turnovers. Overall, it’s great to see the team playing better defense and turning things around.

    • And poor AD gagged on a couple of Freebies again, again, again ……

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    Aloha,

    It’s funny, I never feel like we are doomed when LeBron has to miss a game. Over the last 2 years we have won more than we have lost. It’s when AD had to miss a game that I panic.

    While AD was AD, it really was DLO and Rui driving the win. This was reflected in plus minus AD was +4 but DLO was +29 and Rui was +31.
    Yesterday was the first game this year that DLO has dominated. It happened a lot more last year. It was good to see and I hope this wakes him up.

    As for Rui, this an example of what he can do when the team involves him in the offense. From an efficiency standpoint point it was one of his worst recently he was only 9 for 13. He missed 4 shots! And only 3 for 5 from 3! I’ll give him a break on one of the 3’s the ball was dumped off on him and he had to throw it towards rim to beat the shot clock.

    I kid of course. I have been calling for Rui to get more touches because he is our most efficient scorer. And JJ said something in post that was surprising. He said that this was the first game since pre season that he drew up an ATO for Rui. And it was not just offense. Rui had 4 steals, a block and Grant didn’t score a point against him.

    While I would like to see Rui more involved, we have enough weapons to get multiple players more involved. Sometimes I believe we force feed AD and LeBron too much. I would love to see a more balanced attack. We have a lot of days off coming up, maybe JJ can work on that.

    The DLO and Rui show

    Aloha,

    It’s funny, I never feel like we are doomed when LeBron has to miss a game. Over the last 2 years we have won more than we have lost. It’s when AD had to miss a game that I panic.

    While AD was AD, it really was DLO and Rui driving the win. This was reflected in plus minus AD was +4 but DLO was +29 and Rui was +31.
    Yesterday was the first game this year that DLO has dominated. It happened a lot more last year. It was good to see and I hope this wakes him up.

    As for Rui, this an example of what he can do when the team involves him in the offense. From an efficiency standpoint point it was one of his worst recently he was only 9 for 13. He missed 4 shots! And only 3 for 5 from 3! I’ll give him a break on one of the 3’s the ball was dumped off on him and he had to throw it towards rim to beat the shot clock.

    I kid of course. I have been calling for Rui to get more touches because he is our most efficient scorer. And JJ said something in post that was surprising. He said that this was the first game since pre season that he drew up an ATO for Rui. And it was not just offense. Rui had 4 steals, a block and Grant didn’t score a point against him.

    While I would like to see Rui more involved, we have enough weapons to get multiple players more involved. Sometimes I believe we force feed AD and LeBron too much. I would love to see a more balanced attack. We have a lot of days off coming up, maybe JJ can work on that.

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    • Take note. We played the worst team in the league at home. As Shania sings, “That don’t impress me much!”

      • I think you are missing the point on Rui DJ. He’s shooting 50% from the field, 46% from 3 against everyone good or bad. Getting him more involved in the offense actually helps LeBron. As for LeBron on the wing, he might as well retire. What makes him great is his ability to make plays for himself and others. Turn him into a catch and shoot guy and he will no longer be effective.

    • Great analysis, as usual. You are right about D’Lo and Rui. When they play like this, I feel like we have a good team. But when they defer to LeBron, that is when things can get backward. As for Rui, I thought the presence of fellow countryman and superstar Shohei Ohtani might have motivated him. Anyway, this is the most comfortable game I have seen the Lakers play this season, even though it might come against the Blazers.

    • That’s exactly my thoughts, DJ.

    • Love this, like we discussed over the weekend: both DLO and Rui’s overall FG attempts are down from the previous season by a significant margin. The offense can strike a better balance but nothing will get all that much better until we cleanup the silly turnovers.

      • There are only 2 players on the roster with a positive plus mini for the year. DLO is +69 and Rui is +5. LeBron is a -129. He’s 485th in the league. You would think an analytics driven coach might look at that and what he can do to take advantage of it.

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