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    • For all his flaws the 76ers need Ben Simmons. At this point, with all the bad PR out there, he has the leverage. It’s a superstar-driven league, Ben has taken Embiid-less teams to decent places. Yes, his game has flaws but they won’t get back good value for him now and with the flurry of PGs finding new deals a lot of those won’t be available in a trade until sometime in Decmeber. Would the Wizards trade Beal for Simmons? I don’t see why, same with Dame in Portland which is at least out of conference.

      Doc Rivers is my name, killing players confidence is my game!

      • “Doc Rivers is my name, killing players’ confidence is my game!” Hahaha! That’s a good one, Jamie. Funny as hell. Not sure if their relationship can be repaired, but it certainly will require one of them to take a bow and apologize. Where there is pride there has to be a fall, and pride comes before a fall.

        • Well said Buba. It’s like being a child of divorce when your coach throws you under a bus 🚌 you can’t trust Doc won’t do it again.

          I also agree with Buba, it will take one of them hat in hand (Rivers). That might not be enough…

    • A coach that doesn’t get along with his players usually becomes unemployed. Isn’t that what happened with Rivers’ last job? His assistant replaced him. Not much to see here, folks.

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    • I’m all for adding a backup point guard and two bigger 3&D wings who can defend bigger wing scorers. IT fits the backup PG role. Wes could be one of the wing defenders although I would like somebody bigger. Then there’s always Dudley and his valuable role. Be interesting to see what Lakers do.

      The one thing I’m against is signing another center as that would only give Vogel a reason NOT to play AD at the 5. Otherwise, I’m open to anything for the last two spots, assuming we leave one open just in case somebody good gets waived.

      • Yup. I expect one spot to stay open as long as possible

      • I also feel he legitimately got jobbed out of dough 💵💰💲. I’d be stoked if we were a small part in his redemption

      • As things stand now all we need is a backup point, a 3 and D wing, and a bruising power forward. IT would be a good addition except that we have many at the guard position. Still would like to know Wes’s situation.

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      • Dennis, would you prefer to slink out of town with your tail between your legs for a charity offer from the Celtics?

        Or go to Rob and say you’re sorry and are willing to stay with the Lakers to back up Russ on a 1-year deal for $10M.

        That’s a win-win situation for Lakers and Schroder.
        Lakers get a backup PG and Dennis gets his Bird rights.

        But depends on Dennis’ state of mind and acceptance.
        Could only work if Dennis has his head on straight.

          • It’s funny LT because you were the one harping over and over about how Caruso would cost over 3 times as much to keep and the Lakers would NEVER blow the tax bill out of the water for him and now you’re turning around and advocating for this team-killer to return while blowing the tax bill out of the water?

            Head scratching…

            • Not really, Jamie. Two things changed my mind.

              The first was finding out that 5 teams were going to pay more luxury taxes than the Lakers, including the Bucks and Jazz. That’s criminal imo. Lakers should never be outspent. We should have spent that money on Alex.

              The second was my realizing that we were going to go into the trade deadline with only THT and Nunn as trading chips unless we were able to get a player or trade exception.

              I am a little worried about having too many guards and maybe having guys who are unhappy with their minutes or role. Right now, we’re fine at 12 imo. Adding Dennis or another player who will win minutes could upset that.

              Here’s the interesting question I asked myself. In retrospect, would I have rather we kept Alex or Dennis. Based on our treatment of them, both would have been trading chips but I think Dennis’ $10M w/b an underpay while Alex’s $10M was probably an overpay. Comes down to scoring over defense.

            • I could understand going deeper into LT hell for Caruso, who was part of an NBA championship, plays better defense than Dennis and hits the three better while being his equal as a ballhandling lead guard. Rob and Jeanie won’t be doing Dennis any favors for the reasons I’ve mentioned a few different times. That ship sailed when he kicked the more than fair (one would say generous based on what his market value has turned out to be since Caruso managed to find a roughly 10 million dollar deal and Dennis could not) extension to the curb.

              As you said, we already have enough guards and so we’re basically overpaying for a trading chip it feels unlikely anyone would want to trade for. I don’t get it. We’re not big players at the mid-season trading deadline under Pelinka, anyhow. So we’d blow a bunch of money on a disgruntled player because…we really really hope the few minutes he’d play would enhance what is obviously a low value based on overall league interest? None of that makes any sense to me at all.

    • Dude…you’re painting an ugly self-portrait at this point, Mr. Schroder…

      • Trying to bully a team that is offering you what it will because. come one guys, I really blew it a couple months back and completely over-estimated my value on the open market and that’s roughly 1/4 of what I was planning on!

        Overseas is his best option for $$$, Celtics if he wants to stay in the NBA at all. See you, dude, no place for you on the Lakers. You blew it, now you have to live with it.

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    Post Free Agency Power Rankings East Conference

    1. BKN Nets 🏀🏀
    2. Milwaukee Bucks 🦌🦌
    3. Miami Heat🏖🏖♨️♨️
    4. ATL Hawks ↘️↘️ 🍑🍑
    5. Philly Sixers 🔔🔔
    6. NY Knicks 🗽🗽
    7. Boson Celtics ☘️☘️
    8. Chicago Bulls 🐂🐂
    9. Indiana Pacers🌾🌾
    10. Toronto Raps 🦖🦖
    11. Charlotte Hornets 🐝 🐝
    12. Washington Wizards 🧙‍♀️ 🧙‍♀️
    13. Orlando Magic 🪄🪄
    14. Cleveland Cavaliers ⚔️⚔️
    15. Detroit Pistons 🚗🚗🚘🚘

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    Post-Free Agency Power Rankings

    West

    1. Los Angeles Lakers 🏝🏝🌴🌴
    2. Utah Jazz🎺🎺🎷🎷
    3. Golden State Warriors 🌁🌁🌉🌉
    4. Denver Nuggets🏔🏔🏔🏔
    5. Phoenix Suns 🌵🌵🏜🏜
    6. Dallas Mavs 🏵🏵🛢🛢
    7. Memphis Grizzlies 🍗🍖🐻🐻
    8. Portland Trail Blazers ↖️↖️🌳🌳
    9. Los Angeles Clippers **
    10. Sacramento Kings 🐄🐄🌾🌾
    11. San Antonio Spurs
    12. New Orleans Pelicans 🎉🎉🎷🎷
    13. Houston Rockets 🚀 🚀
    14. Minnesota Timberwolves 🐺🐺
    15. OKC Thunder ⛈⛈🌩🌩⚡️

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    • Lakers should offer Dennis $10M per year to backup Russ. He keeps his Bird rights, gets more money, and better place to rehab his brand. Lakers get backup for Russ and trade chip for deadline.

      Note: I would only do this if Dennis was in the right frame of mind and understood and accepted his role. Lakers could work with him to find a better option for him on another team.

      • I have always liked your backup option for Dennis. That’s about the most viable option for both sides.

      • They didn’t penny-pinch with Caruso just so they could blow the tax bill out of the water with the guy who no-showed in the playoffs, rejected fair extensions (multiple times) and was a locker room distraction. We have a backup PG in Nunn and potentially THT. If nobody wants him now for $10 mil (which they don’t) nobody is going to want him at the deadline for the same price unless you give away picks to move him which we don’t really have many to spare. Frankly I wouldn’t be surprised of LBJ and AD were like “No Rob, let the man walk because we don’t want him in the locker room.” That wouldn’t surprise me at all. We’re done doing Dennis Schroder favors, or we should be, he can figure his future out all on his own at this point.

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    • I don’t know who reps Dennis but I doubt it will be for much longer. If you didn’t have papers for this guy to sign minute-one of free agency on team _____ for either the desired $$$ or the role expected what was the sense in turning down the offer from LA? The answer is none. Now he won’t have any BR next season meaning the most he can be offered by the Celtics will be a 20% raise. No need for any other team to go higher so it will take plus seasons of working his azz off in the NBA to rebuild his value to what it was when the extension was offered. There’s a saying about playing with fire that seems apropos here…

      Kind of feel for Dennis but this is a disaster wholly of his own creation. This one will sting for a few years but with luck he’ll find his way to that $$ bag in a season or two. Those Bird Rights have flown the coop and it takes time to re-acquire that status:

      As is the case with every exception in the CBA, there are different kinds of Bird Rights. Here is how each can be broken down:

      Full Bird Rights
      A team gets a player’s full Bird Rights if they spend three years with their team without leaving in free agency.
      It doesn’t have to be on a three-year deal. This applies to players on a three-year deal, players on a two-year deal followed by a one-year deal or players on three consecutive one-year deals.
      Early Bird Rights
      A team gets a player’s Early Bird Rights if he spends two years with a team without leaving in free agency.
      Non-Bird Rights
      A team gets a player’s non-Bird Rights if he spends a single year with the team.
      From exact financial terms, non-Bird Rights allow teams to pay players up to 120 percent of his previous salary in order to re-sign him. For example, if a player is coming off a one-year deal that paid him $10 million, the team he was on can go over the cap to re-sign him to a contract where the first year is worth up to $12 million.

      Furthermore, Early Bird Rights are similar, but they allow teams to pay players either 175 percent of his previous salary or 104.5 percent of the average league salary, whichever is higher. (The latter is in place to protect players coming off minimum deals.) Hence, in the former scenario, a player coming off a two-year deal where each year was worth $10 million can be re-signed to a contract where the first year is worth up to $17.5 million, i.e. 175 percent of the previous salary, if the team wants to go over the cap when re-signing said player.

      And finally, for Full Bird Rights, the only limit in place is the max salary the player can receive, be it 25 percent of the cap, 30 percent of the cap or 35 percent of the cap. For a recent example, just observe how star Denver Nuggets big man Nikola Jokic went from earning the minimum in 2017-18 ($1.5 million) to earning the max in 2018-19 ($25.5 million).

      As far as trades and the transferal of Bird Rights go, if a player has been with a team for three complete years and he gets traded, his new team will acquire his Bird Rights.

      However, if a player has been on a team for two years and re-signs for a third year, they automatically inherit a no-trade clause on that third season. Why? Because it gives players the right to have to approve a trade which would cause them to lose the full Bird Rights that were about to be available to them.

        • Yeah man, a cautionary tale indeed for young guys who want the big payday and scoff at a more than fair offer. If he gets injured, like IT did, it’ll be another sad tale in the NBA. ‘Cept IT balled his heart out for the Celtics and almost took them to the ECF, Schroder pulled a no-show and is healthy.

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    • “This is the one thing I’m missing. This is the one thing that keeps me up at night, that motivates me because I don’t have it.”

      – Carmelo Anthony on chasing a Championship

    • You know who has already got lost in the shuffle more than Russ? Melo. Hell, Melo could play the 4 and LBJ the 3 w/AD at the 5 to start games off…

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    Aloha, Michael…

    Excellent points. I’m in favor of signing Rondo because the Lakers need playmaking as much as they need 3-point shooting during the long regular season. And Playoff Rondo has shown he can be an elite playmaker and dead-eye 3-point shooter in the playoffs. Will there be a point where he won’t be Playoff Rondo? Some will say that was the last playoffs on the Clippers but again, that’s on the Clippers, which is not the same as on the Lakers playing with LeBron. To me, it was more the great play and shooting of Reggie Jackson that kept Rondo off the floor more than his poor play.

    Where will Rondo’s minutes come from? I would see him as the primary backup to Russell Westbrook. Assuming Russ starts and closes games and plays 30 minutes per game, that would leave 18 minutes for Rajon as backup point guard, which is about how long you would want him to play. You and everybody seem to be assuming that LeBron will play some minutes at point guard, which I don’t think will happen as often as others expect. I think the goal of the Lakers is do play LeBron and AD as the primary front court tandem because those are their best positions and make up the Lakers best lineups. Will LeBron have the ball in his hands a lot? Yes, but I think it will be Westbrook and Rondo who will be feeding him and AD the ball in the post. The Lakers are going to use LeBron and AD at the four and five to bully and physically bash opposing defenses. I think the Lakers realize the solution to create opportunities for shooters is for having their superstars play in the front court.

    I’m not worried about our defense. Like our offense, it will depend on LeBron and AD remaining healthy. If they are healthy, then we have the anchors to our defense. I also think Russ will be fine defensively on the Lakers. He will follow LeBron and Anthony and focus on defense first. D is going to be what ignites our transition game. When you have 3 superstars who can play defense like the Lakers Big Three, that’s a huge plus over any other team’s Big Threes. I also think the addition of Dwight, Ariza, and Bazemore will more than make up for losing Caruso, KCP, and Kuzma. Our offense will be twice as good as last year and our defense a little better because of LeBron and AD playing major roles instead of being injured.

    I share the same hopes for THT having a break-out season but think it’s his 3-point shooting that is still the key to his ceiling being a star or superstar. Just too great a need to have whoever plays the two or three be a high volume, high percentage 3-point shooter. Can’t waste one of your two non-superstar positions on a player who can’t shoot over 30% from deep. Shooting will be so important to THT that he could easily be trade bait at the deadline if he doesn’t show improved long-range shooting. He and Nunn are our only two trading chips that are not minimum contracts. Talen has dodged trades so far but he better start hitting those threes or he could find himself in another uniform at the deadline.

    It’s hard not to envision the Lakers pushing hard to win this season and almost taking the approach that this might be the last realistic opportunity to win another championship for LeBron. His window may be closing faster than expected, especially if the Brooklyn Nets Superstar Big Three can stay healthy. It’s obvious to me that the Lakers believed they couldn’t win running it back or without a third superstar. That means they’re not going to hesitate to trade THT at the deadline. He’s their single most important trading chip.

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