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    Reality begins to set in for the click bait crowd. Took ’em long enough…

    Utah won’t be trading LM unless it’s for a “can’t refuse offer”. Unlikely the Lakers have one they can offer, if they even wanted to in the first place. Also it’s unlikely most teams see that as doing good business when they’d have to turn around and pay him a ton of money for what was essentially one good season. He could just as easily be the next BI where he does well enough on a bad team but either can’t stay on the floor or can’t win at the playoff level. Or both, since he hasn’t managed to get there on Utah.

    Chicago “resigned” to starting the season with LaVine. So much for getting draft picks for taking him on? Honestly, Chicago might as well wait and try and rehab his value. They have this odd belief they’re on the cusp of contending. Which I don’t get at all.

    Speaking of Mr. Ingram, BI likely to stay in NOLA. Again, not surprising. He took a step back and nobody is probably excited to offer him a multi year max contract and/or send NOLA the haul they likely feel entitled to for him in a trade. Might as well hold onto your picks and let the market dictate his value next summer.

    Welcome to the new CBA, folks. Big contracts for under-performing players are the new albatross in ways we can only imagine to actual GMs. It’s funny when the league signs an incredibly profitable deal and the players probably won’t see the half of it in terms of salaries simply because they agreed to a max 10% cap growth every season. 15-20% probably would have made more sense.

    Also, shout out to whomever owns TNT for suing the league when they rejected the match. Hard for Silver to arbitrate the oddity that is the Timberwolves not selling to the A-Rod group now since this is, basically, the same thing.

    Gotta love the dog days man…

    Rumor Mill Hilarity!

    Reality begins to set in for the click bait crowd. Took ’em long enough…

    Utah won’t be trading LM unless it’s for a “can’t refuse offer”. Unlikely the Lakers have one they can offer, if they even wanted to in the first place. Also it’s unlikely most teams see that as doing good business when they’d have to turn around and pay him a ton of money for what was essentially one good season. He could just as easily be the next BI where he does well enough on a bad team but either can’t stay on the floor or can’t win at the playoff level. Or both, since he hasn’t managed to get there on Utah.

    Chicago “resigned” to starting the season with LaVine. So much for getting draft picks for taking him on? Honestly, Chicago might as well wait and try and rehab his value. They have this odd belief they’re on the cusp of contending. Which I don’t get at all.

    Speaking of Mr. Ingram, BI likely to stay in NOLA. Again, not surprising. He took a step back and nobody is probably excited to offer him a multi year max contract and/or send NOLA the haul they likely feel entitled to for him in a trade. Might as well hold onto your picks and let the market dictate his value next summer.

    Welcome to the new CBA, folks. Big contracts for under-performing players are the new albatross in ways we can only imagine to actual GMs. It’s funny when the league signs an incredibly profitable deal and the players probably won’t see the half of it in terms of salaries simply because they agreed to a max 10% cap growth every season. 15-20% probably would have made more sense.

    Also, shout out to whomever owns TNT for suing the league when they rejected the match. Hard for Silver to arbitrate the oddity that is the Timberwolves not selling to the A-Rod group now since this is, basically, the same thing.

    Gotta love the dog days man…

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    • Oh, I almost forgot. Super awesome Laker “insider” Mr. Buha confirms that the Lakers have been shopping DLo with nary a taker in sight. Awesome. Like LaVine I’d cut that off at the knees, publicly declare the roster is fine as-is and sorry coach but we couldn’t lure Shaq out of retirement to be your bruising center and focus on February.

      • At least media day will be interesting. “Hey DLo, what’s your reaction to the Lakers shopping you all summer and nobody biting?” (DLo drops mic and walks away)

        • The good news Jamie is the Lakers have resisted going after the names that are out there. It’s funny, the Trailblazers were criticized for giving Jabari Grant that big 5 year contract. Then Dame leaves and that contract becomes even worse. There was speculation that the Blazers would have pay to get out of it. Enter the Lakers and they suddenly want 2 first picks along with the 3 contracts it would take. Two of those would be good players they could flip. In essence they want lakers to pay to get out of a crummy contract. Teams have been trying to screw what’s perceived as a desperate lakers team. Kudos to Rob for not doing something stupid like he did with Russ. It’s best to see what the team looks like after a couple of months.

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    5 Things: On the Human Glacier Known as Rob Pelinka.

    Honestly, that might be unfair to glaciers. I think they move faster than Rob does. If you’re like me and thought we’d basically run it back this summer has come as no surprise. If you were hoping for some whiz-bang trade action I think we color you disappointed right now…but maybe not in a few months. In the end, there are some clear methods to Rob’s madness and that’s what I want to get into today.

    1. My personal take on the methodology of Rob Pelinka specifically in-season trades. Rob’s been the GM since February 2017 and the President/GM since January 2020. So we have some empirical evidence to go on. In that time Rob has made exactly 3 in-season trades when Magic was his boss and 2 when he was his own boss. In February 2018 (when Magic was still the President and possibly pushed for this because it’s so obviously a very bad trade) for Jordan Clarkson and Larry Nance Jr to the Cavaliers for Isaiah Thomas, Channing Fry, and a 2018 first-round pick (Moritz Wagner). The following season he traded Svi Mykhailiuk and a 2021 2nd rounder for Reggie Bullock, who signed elsewhere after the season when he was awful for us. He followed that one up by trading Zubac and the walking corpse of Michael Beasley to the Clippers for Mike Muscala who, like Bullock, simply walked. basically Russ for a good chunk of the current team. Those were all when Magic was his boss and so could, in theory, have been driven by Earvin and his desire to surround LeBron with better shooting and less young guys, we just always picked the wrong guys and/or under-valued superior talent in Zubac. As his own boss Rob waited until 2022 to make an in-season trade the first one being Kendrick Nunn and 3 second rounders (2023, 2028, & 2029) for Rui Hachimura. In hindsight, when placed against the backdrop of the new CBA, that’s a fair deal. Those 2nd rounders are more valuable in the modern era. He followed that up by erasing his summer trade 2 season prior for Westbrook in a 3 team deal that ultimately netted us 2 rotation players in Dlo and Vando, along with Malik Beasley who suffered the same fate as all shooting role-players and signed elsewhere the following summer.
    2. Rob and his off-season trades. There are quite a few more of these to analyze, but not as many as some probably hope. The first one of those was a fairly unremarkable deal, swapping the 2019 2nd rounder for the 2018+cash from us which turned out to be Bonga who is out of the league. The 2019 second rounder that was picked by Washington was the similarly unremarkable Bruno Fernando (also out of the league, I believe). What was interesting about that deal was that we also sent out money. This in and of itself isn’t awful; however, it does set the stage for the reality that nobody deals with Rob on the up and up, an issue that plagues us still to this day. The following summer he basically repeated that deal trading a 2020 second rounder (ended up being Paul Reed) plus cash for a 2019 second rounder which turned out to be THT. This trade viewed specifically at this moment isn’t a bad one. This trade when viewed through the lens of THT is now all but out of the league and we chose him over Caruso is one of the worst in Lakers history. That same summer we traded everyone for AD, a solid (if not surprising at all) move. You can nitpick about the inclusion of so many draft picks but this was one of those deals Rob saw the guy he wanted and het the ask to get it done. After we won it all with AD in The Bubble Rob started on his curious quest of Dismantling A Title Winning Team for Inferior Players Because…Well…Just Because. It’s a quest that continues to this day with trades for Danny Green AND the 2020 1st round pick that ended being Jaden McDaniels for Dennis Schroeder who twice was a Laker for a single season and never retained. That was followed by trading JaVale McGee for Alfonso McKinnie and Jordan Bell…and our 2026 second rounder. Bell was waived, McKinnie never played and so, yeah, awesome. The following summer was when traded everyone for Russ and we’re still digging ourselves out from that one, too. There was also the Gasol for Wang Zhelin trade which basically gave Marc his salary but put him back in Memphis where he belonged to end his career, the Rondo to the Cavs for a bunch of guys who never played in 2022 followed by trading THT scant months after choosing him over Caruso for Pat Bev…who is now out of the league…and we’re where we are now.
    3. Learning the hard lesson of what a pick’s true value is. Go back through those trades and we send out a lot of picks while only getting players back and the talent difference is generally minimal. The cost to pay to play for Rob as a GM/Pres seems like he starts at an overpay and then has to go even higher. So with this in mind, and seeing how many of the draft picks we sent out ended up being quality players we’d like to have now, it makes more sense to see Rob a little more hesitant to pull the trigger this summer. For all we know he may or may not have the greenlight to make a deal on his own. he himself has spoken on his preference to run the team in a parliamentary style that includes Jeannie, the Rambii, and some of the Buss kids. That’s a difficult environment to get anything done in, especially when free agency now moves so quickly. If anything were to change that doesn’t include Rob being fired it’s that I would like to see that process streamlined.
    4. Rob’s grades in trades past. Honestly, if it weren’t for the AD trade, I’d give Rob a D minus as a GM when it comes to making trades. Some will point to how we got out of the Russell Westbrook situation but that was of his own creation. A strong GM doesn’t cow to his players because they want something, they analyze the cost, look at how it could (or in this case couldn’t) work and move forward. The AD trade and the roster that he and Magic built leading up to that season won a title. Since then, on his own, Rob has done nothing but mostly choose the wrong players to retain or trade for. Keeping Dlo, Vando, Rui and Austin on decent, fairly tradeable deals might push it to a D+. It’s just that Rob seems overly concerned with keeping players paid and happy and less so in building an effective team.
    5. All quiet on the western front. I personally give Rob a C+ for dealing with this summer the way he did. Once Reddish, Hayes and Wood all opted in it meant we had to pay the cost of moving a player to add a player. That doesn’t make a ton of sense given how many picks of ours are still pending, especially second rounders over the next 5 years. I wish he had been able to somehow convince James to take a $10 million pay cut and open up the taxpayer MLE. That would have been available if any two of the player option dudes had opted out, as well, but that’s not something Rob has control over and we’re seeing better players than those guys taking a lot less on the open market so their agents did solid by them and gave them good advice. Nothing to be done there and LeBron sacrificing $10 million for Tyus Jones or Gary Trent Jr. always sounded like a long shot to me. There might be more action once the Jazz extend Markkanen in a week or so but I don’t think we’ll see much else going down. Guys like Jones, THT and other specialist or low-grade talent will likely have to play overseas if they don’t want to play for the vet minimum on a non-contender. Pat Bev already chose that route.

    All in all, I have long considered Rob the weakest link. he gives bad rosters too long, good coaches too little and generally never accepts blame for the errors in judgement he’s made.

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    Loved the moxie the team showed tonight. Young guys really battled and I like the slight change in attack, fewer threes (weren’t winning chucking anyhow) and pretty decent (for summer league) D.

    Nice Win

    Loved the moxie the team showed tonight. Young guys really battled and I like the slight change in attack, fewer threes (weren’t winning chucking anyhow) and pretty decent (for summer league) D.

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    Might be the best fit for him if his goal is to win a ring, could end up starting which is important to him. Takes a lotta pressure of Jokic and Murray in the first 3 quarters. Would be surprised if he ended up anywhere else.

    Russ likely headed to Denver

    Might be the best fit for him if his goal is to win a ring, could end up starting which is important to him. Takes a lotta pressure of Jokic and Murray in the first 3 quarters. Would be surprised if he ended up anywhere else.

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    • Nice move by the Clippers to flip Russ for Dunn.

      • Wish Frank was running our FO…only move I’d second guess is choosing Harden over George. Lowballing PG never made much sense but it’s not like the new CBA just punishes with Ballmer money, punishes the team.

        • Frank has done a great job with Clippers.
          Seems to always make great moves.
          Unlike Rob Pelinka, who always has excuse.

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    After listening to Tom tell me how bananas I was for suggesting quality NBA players may not sign for the vet minimum but rather play for a lot more money overseas (and how that idea was stupid, I believe, his words lol) today we see that Pat Bev is considering playing overseas for a lot more money than the vet minimum.

    Wow. How surprised am I? Zero, it doesn’t take a genius to understand (or I dunno, maybe it does and I’m a genius?) that these guys aren’t video game trade chips that just do whatever you want or tell them to do in your mind. They have a tremendous amount of pride, they have a small window to earn money playing a game, most of them aren’t all that worried about where the paycheck comes from. They do worry about the size.

    So if you want to keep playing with other people’s money, feel free. It’s never really been a game that interests me. These guys will find paydays and some agents might get fired. The NBA free agency is like an ever more dangerous game of musical chairs. Money that was on the table 10 minutes ago is gone now, you sat too slowly.

    I don’t believe Pat Bev will be the exception, I think that, at this point in the summer and seeing how most teams have zipped up the cap space, you can either choose the Schroeder Route (play overseas, rehab value, get in earlier the following summer, maybe do well in FIBA if at all possible).

    La Melo played overseas rather college or the G-League. There is money to be made and no salary cap to strop you from maximizing what you believe your worth top be. You can play in a vacation destination like Spain or Australia all while playing a decent role for the game you love. Heck, you might be the “star” of the team.

    This is the flip side of globalization, that good players aren’t forced to play for pennies. They do have options.

    Patrick Beverley Weighing 'Historic' European Contract amid NBA Free Agency Offers

    Well that didn't take long...

    After listening to Tom tell me how bananas I was for suggesting quality NBA players may not sign for the vet minimum but rather play for a lot more money overseas (and how that idea was stupid, I believe, his words lol) today we see that Pat Bev is considering playing overseas for a lot more money than the vet minimum.

    Wow. How surprised am I? Zero, it doesn’t take a genius to understand (or I dunno, maybe it does and I’m a genius?) that these guys aren’t video game trade chips that just do whatever you want or tell them to do in your mind. They have a tremendous amount of pride, they have a small window to earn money playing a game, most of them aren’t all that worried about where the paycheck comes from. They do worry about the size.

    So if you want to keep playing with other people’s money, feel free. It’s never really been a game that interests me. These guys will find paydays and some agents might get fired. The NBA free agency is like an ever more dangerous game of musical chairs. Money that was on the table 10 minutes ago is gone now, you sat too slowly.

    I don’t believe Pat Bev will be the exception, I think that, at this point in the summer and seeing how most teams have zipped up the cap space, you can either choose the Schroeder Route (play overseas, rehab value, get in earlier the following summer, maybe do well in FIBA if at all possible).

    La Melo played overseas rather college or the G-League. There is money to be made and no salary cap to strop you from maximizing what you believe your worth top be. You can play in a vacation destination like Spain or Australia all while playing a decent role for the game you love. Heck, you might be the “star” of the team.

    This is the flip side of globalization, that good players aren’t forced to play for pennies. They do have options.

    Patrick Beverley Weighing 'Historic' European Contract amid NBA Free Agency Offers

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    • Jamie, while you’re right about players going for what’s best for them money wise, what would one make of Jalen Brunson taking a substantial pay cut for the Knicks? Could it be that the possibility of a major injury played a role in his decision? 113 million is a lot of money to leave on the table.

      • For 9 out of 10 guys who take this route, Jamie, it’s a one-way ticket out of the NBA. My point is guys who still have game want to play in the NBA, not overseas. They do that when they have no other option. Pat Beverley has played his last game in the association imo.

      • He wants to win and he wants to win now, IMO. I never begrudge a player for taking the most coin that they can. It always cracks me up when other people say “so and so will take less…for the team!” When the team is likely actively engaged in trying to trade that guy. That’s why the phrase “it’s a business” always rings the most true. To me, anyhow.

    • I think folks have alotta misconceptions about pro athletes. I have a few friends & fam who were marginal pros (nobody you’d probably know) and they’ll all tell you that most dudes aren’t trying to be Kobe & Brady. They know they have an extremely limited shelf life and that most careers are over before they hit 30 years of age. Guys in that situation are trying to get paid while they still can and leave with a decent nestegg to start the next stage of life that’ll be substantially longer than their playing careers. We ain’t talking about generational wealth here. Ideally you’d want to spend as much time in the NBA as possible but sometimes it just doesn’t work out that way and you do what you gotta do. The shifting CBA rules don’t make it any easier either.

      It’s actually alot like any other workplace; you’ve got a small percentage who really give a sh!t and want to move up into management & above. You’ve got another small percentage who are truly no good at their job but do the bare minimum to keep from getting fired. Then you have the vast majority who just wanna do their best, get paid on Friday, and go home. But that kinda ruins the illusion that everybody will spill blood for a ring.

      I was talking with my niece’s fiance a coupla weeks ago who tried for about 3 years to make it to the NBA but could never quite catch on. Got an offer to play in Turkey that paid him way more than he woulda made on a minimum NBA contract. Also paid for just about all his living expenses. Spent 5 years there and the only thing he regrets is that he didn’t do it sooner. Everything ain’t for everybody…..

    • I think with this lousy, top-heavy CBA we’ll see more on-the-fringes guys going for overseas paydays. Guys at the tail end like Pat Bev would find themselves winding down their careers overseas before this abomination of a CBA cut them off at the knees, so it’s not at all surprising to see him take one last stab at it over there.

    • Fun stuff! Looks like Cam Payne is signing 1 year vet minimum deal. GTJ is signing a 1 year, no deets, yet.

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    Michael, Tom and I go live. If you want to chat in real time hit us up on YouTube at the Lakers Fast Break channel.

    Today at 11 AM PST

    Michael, Tom and I go live. If you want to chat in real time hit us up on YouTube at the Lakers Fast Break channel.

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    Barring a sign and trade for Rui or Vincent (highly unlikely at this point, IMO, for various reasons I don’t feel like espousing on right now) we’re looking at salary dumping one of our 3 vet minimum players and using the vet minimum to bring in one guy, maybe 2. That’s the last “move” left for the summer in the realm of reality.

    Gary Trent Jr. would be at the absolute top of my list, hard to see him playing for so little money as the vet minimum, or even the TPMLE for him at this point. Since we know the non TPMLE is off the table (I think for the entire league as it stands today) my guess is he signs with a contender that offers him the best role. Even then I’m not sure we’re the best fit. Yes, we’d love to have his shooting and at 25 he still falls into the “developing” category but what minutes exist for him if one assumes Reaves, Vincent, JV and Rui are all going to see 20+ mpg? Add in getting Knecht some run and seeing GT in purple and gold seems elusive, at best.

    …THT. No. Hell no.

    Big men like Bamba and Biyombo honestly feel like we’re just swapping mediocre for mediocre, might as well just keep Woods and/or Hayes, honestly. Same goes for Reddish and trying to get Precious or Bey or any number of rangy dudes who are sort of high energy but can’t really put it all together in a meaningful way on the pro court.

    Spencer Dinwiddie makes the most sense as he played decently last season but I bet he’s hoping some kind of money opens up for him above the vet min (see Trent Jr. above).

    Lonnie Walker 2.0? Again, is this much of an upgrade over Cam? Maybe a small one.

    Cam Payne, Fultz, Wagner, the Morris twins, all of these names are, well, pretty uninspiring and, as such is the case, I expect the Lakers to run it back. As is.

    Other Moves? Uhhhh.....welllll....in a word...unlikely.

    Barring a sign and trade for Rui or Vincent (highly unlikely at this point, IMO, for various reasons I don’t feel like espousing on right now) we’re looking at salary dumping one of our 3 vet minimum players and using the vet minimum to bring in one guy, maybe 2. That’s the last “move” left for the summer in the realm of reality.

    Gary Trent Jr. would be at the absolute top of my list, hard to see him playing for so little money as the vet minimum, or even the TPMLE for him at this point. Since we know the non TPMLE is off the table (I think for the entire league as it stands today) my guess is he signs with a contender that offers him the best role. Even then I’m not sure we’re the best fit. Yes, we’d love to have his shooting and at 25 he still falls into the “developing” category but what minutes exist for him if one assumes Reaves, Vincent, JV and Rui are all going to see 20+ mpg? Add in getting Knecht some run and seeing GT in purple and gold seems elusive, at best.

    …THT. No. Hell no.

    Big men like Bamba and Biyombo honestly feel like we’re just swapping mediocre for mediocre, might as well just keep Woods and/or Hayes, honestly. Same goes for Reddish and trying to get Precious or Bey or any number of rangy dudes who are sort of high energy but can’t really put it all together in a meaningful way on the pro court.

    Spencer Dinwiddie makes the most sense as he played decently last season but I bet he’s hoping some kind of money opens up for him above the vet min (see Trent Jr. above).

    Lonnie Walker 2.0? Again, is this much of an upgrade over Cam? Maybe a small one.

    Cam Payne, Fultz, Wagner, the Morris twins, all of these names are, well, pretty uninspiring and, as such is the case, I expect the Lakers to run it back. As is.

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    It would take DLO and Rui and probably at least 2 unprotected FRPs. Maybe some more swaps. BI likely looking for the max extension which, between Bron, AD and that deal ($60 something mil).

    Anyhoo, I am of the opinion we are probably either a few ponies short, would balk at the price of that odd-fitting trio, the optics of giving up as much for BI as we did AD, the difficulty of building a decent team once we rocket past the 2nd apron just to keep Reaves or any number of logical reasons why we wouldn’t make that deal but it’s the dog days and I’m bored.

    Do We Have the Ponies for a BI trade?

    It would take DLO and Rui and probably at least 2 unprotected FRPs. Maybe some more swaps. BI likely looking for the max extension which, between Bron, AD and that deal ($60 something mil).

    Anyhoo, I am of the opinion we are probably either a few ponies short, would balk at the price of that odd-fitting trio, the optics of giving up as much for BI as we did AD, the difficulty of building a decent team once we rocket past the 2nd apron just to keep Reaves or any number of logical reasons why we wouldn’t make that deal but it’s the dog days and I’m bored.

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    • He’s on a max contract, looking for a crazy max extension. He’s not worth either, doesn’t really move the needle. In the new second apron era, I think he’s looking more at a Derozan type deal than a max but maybe that’s just me. Not a winning player, nor particularly durable. No way to build a contender with a guy like that being your 3rd earning 40mm+ with the new restrictions. Based on the lack of movement by the Lakers, I think they realize there’s no building a contender with 3 max guys these days.

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    Source NBA.com:

    The National Basketball Association today announced that the Salary Cap has been set at $140.588 million for the 2024-25 season. The Tax Level for the 2024‑25 season is $170.814 million.

    The Salary Cap and Tax Level go into effect at 12:01 a.m. ET on Monday, July 1. Teams are permitted to begin negotiating with free agents today at 6:00 p.m. ET — six hours prior to the start of the league’s “moratorium period.” The moratorium period ends at noon ET on Saturday, July 6.

    The Minimum Team Salary is $126.529 million for the 2024-25 season.
    The First Apron Level is $178.132 million for the 2024-25 season.
    The Second Apron Level is $188.931 million for the 2024-25 season.
    The Collective Bargaining Agreement provides for three different Mid-Level Exceptions depending on a team’s salary level. The Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level for the 2024-25 season is $12.822 million, the Taxpayer Mid-Level is $5.168 million, and the Mid-Level for a team with room under the Salary Cap is $7.983 million.

    Okee dokee, so as I understand it, we currently have access to the taxpayer MLE because we are over the 1st apron but under the 2nd. The taxpayer mid-level exception belongs to teams who are above the salary cap and in the first luxury tax apron. Teams above the second apron do not have a mid-level exception. The non-taxpayer mid-level exception belongs to teams who are over the salary cap but not in the first luxury tax apron.

    Currently we’re over the 1st apron and about $10 mil under the 2nd so we can use the $5.168 million MLE to sign anyone…if we cut someone since we’re at the maximum roster size. This is because of the cap hits for LeBron, Prince. We could renounce whatever rights we have but I doubt that’s happening.

    To gain access to the NTPMLE, worth $12.822 million, we’d need to be above $140.588 but still end up UNDER $170.814 million after we use it, you can’t use that and punch your way into the tax area…which isn’t an actual apron…which makes all of this a lot harder.

    If you get all the way under the salary cap itself but above the minimum salary you, are some reason, kind of penalized and I think you only get access to the Room Exception which is the one worth $7.983 mil.

    We haven’t even factored in Bronny or Knecht yet, either, right? I’m not 100% sure but I think works out to adding roughly $4.9 mil in added salary on top of the already guaranteed money and the cap holds worth mentioning. If I’m not crazy…no guarantee…that leaves us at $170,229 million in guaranteed salary. So LeBron would have to take a pretty hefty pay cut to keep the salary under $170.814 million and have the room to use the full exception. I believe roughly $20 mil

    I am not a cap expert, by any means so please feel free to double-check my math lol. One thing I’m 100% certain of is that somebody needs to be cut in order to free up a physical roster space. That $$$ still counts against the salary cap, it only opens up a roster spot.

    Ooops. My brain just exploded.

    CBA 101 from a non-expert

    Source NBA.com:

    The National Basketball Association today announced that the Salary Cap has been set at $140.588 million for the 2024-25 season. The Tax Level for the 2024‑25 season is $170.814 million.

    The Salary Cap and Tax Level go into effect at 12:01 a.m. ET on Monday, July 1. Teams are permitted to begin negotiating with free agents today at 6:00 p.m. ET — six hours prior to the start of the league’s “moratorium period.” The moratorium period ends at noon ET on Saturday, July 6.

    The Minimum Team Salary is $126.529 million for the 2024-25 season.
    The First Apron Level is $178.132 million for the 2024-25 season.
    The Second Apron Level is $188.931 million for the 2024-25 season.
    The Collective Bargaining Agreement provides for three different Mid-Level Exceptions depending on a team’s salary level. The Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level for the 2024-25 season is $12.822 million, the Taxpayer Mid-Level is $5.168 million, and the Mid-Level for a team with room under the Salary Cap is $7.983 million.

    Okee dokee, so as I understand it, we currently have access to the taxpayer MLE because we are over the 1st apron but under the 2nd. The taxpayer mid-level exception belongs to teams who are above the salary cap and in the first luxury tax apron. Teams above the second apron do not have a mid-level exception. The non-taxpayer mid-level exception belongs to teams who are over the salary cap but not in the first luxury tax apron.

    Currently we’re over the 1st apron and about $10 mil under the 2nd so we can use the $5.168 million MLE to sign anyone…if we cut someone since we’re at the maximum roster size. This is because of the cap hits for LeBron, Prince. We could renounce whatever rights we have but I doubt that’s happening.

    To gain access to the NTPMLE, worth $12.822 million, we’d need to be above $140.588 but still end up UNDER $170.814 million after we use it, you can’t use that and punch your way into the tax area…which isn’t an actual apron…which makes all of this a lot harder.

    If you get all the way under the salary cap itself but above the minimum salary you, are some reason, kind of penalized and I think you only get access to the Room Exception which is the one worth $7.983 mil.

    We haven’t even factored in Bronny or Knecht yet, either, right? I’m not 100% sure but I think works out to adding roughly $4.9 mil in added salary on top of the already guaranteed money and the cap holds worth mentioning. If I’m not crazy…no guarantee…that leaves us at $170,229 million in guaranteed salary. So LeBron would have to take a pretty hefty pay cut to keep the salary under $170.814 million and have the room to use the full exception. I believe roughly $20 mil

    I am not a cap expert, by any means so please feel free to double-check my math lol. One thing I’m 100% certain of is that somebody needs to be cut in order to free up a physical roster space. That $$$ still counts against the salary cap, it only opens up a roster spot.

    Ooops. My brain just exploded.

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    • Probably shoulda dug down into all that a week or two ago but didn’t really carve out the time until today.

    • Hah, I ain’t takin no Income Cut for Jeannie or Rob. Not for Derose or anyone like him. I would have for a real player that can change things up. Guess we roll with it?

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    5 Things: Free Agency Flop?

    Maybe not so much. Everyone just chill out for a sec. I did a couple podcasts and watched angry comment after angry comment along the lines of “Rob can’t close” and “Jeannie sucks” or “LeBron has ruined the Lakers…waaaaaah” and found it all, well, hilarious. They couldn’t play Salary Cap-A-G-Go because they had no-go. Here are some facts: the Lakers started free agency capped out if all of their player option players opted in. They all opted in, leaving LeBron James as the sole player with an option left to pick up or a deal to renegotiate. There was a rumor, not one started by LeBron I imagine, that he would take a pay cut in order to facilitate a small list of preferred players onto the Lakers. If true, that would have been interesting to see just how magnanimous the King was willing to be. Since most of the players on this infamous mystery list have signed onto other teams let’s take a moment to breathe and let reality work it’s magic.

    1. LeBron isn’t ruining jack. Honestly…just…just stop with this BS. The man plays harder at 39 than half the league that’s almost half his age. He was never going to leave. I doubt he was ever actually considering a pay cut given the cap gymnastics it would require of Rob who, frankly, simply isn’t up to the task or the job. Had such a thing happened it would have surprised me. I’m not too full of myself to admit that now, even if it does end up happening, in order to free up the full MLE LeBron would have to take something like a $20 million dollar pay cut (my apologies for being bad at math and not having a ton of time to work this out. As I understand it-and I could be wrong and welcome factual corrections-in order to use the NTPMLE we’d need to get below the 2nd apron line by the amount that we use, with LeBron’s $50 million cap hold we’re at $178 mil, the 1st apron stops at $170 mil which means we need to get down to $158 mil…I think???). You don’t like him hoping to play with his kid? Seems kinda heartless given how much of his time he’s given basketball and now he dares, DARES, to want to share that time with his eldest son?!?!?! The nerve of the man… Don’t like how the coaches he doesn’t respect get fired? Tell that to Magic fucking Johnson who got a head coach fired before it was en vogue, he’s the OG coach firing guy folks. Don’t like how it feels like we’ve handed the keys of the entire franchise over to one player? Tell that to Kobe Bryant (R.I.P) who basically got Shaq traded after a season he spent the majority of in a Colorado courthouse so he could settle out of court. If you don’t get that this is the Laker Way I honestly don’t know what team you have been watching.
    2. Rob Pelinka sucks at his job. Don’t believe me? Let’s count how many $8 million contracts are being lined up for THT who, if he’s lucky, will sign for a vet minimum but more likely end up playing for more money overseas with Dwight Howard or something. Stop blaming LeBron for a weak-kneed, jelly-brained GM. LeBron is doing what he can, he’s even working the phones trying to get a buddy to come play for cheap. No, no this entire team has the stain of ineptitude left by Rob all over it. From another rookie head coach (back-to-back baby!) to another strained salary cap situation and no discernable plan in sight these are the hallmarks of a Rob Pelinka team my friends. Now, in Rob’s defense, he didn’t have a lot to work with coming into the season. So if the plan was to hope that every single player option didn’t get picked up thus reducing the amount LeBron would need to donate back to the Lakers to zero if that list included Russell…well…that’s an incredibly shitty plan. If the plan, and I really have to assume there was one of some kind, was to hope that DLo, Cam, Wood and Jax all opted out and sought greener pastures so that we could open up the Non Tax Payer MLE (thus losing 4 players for one much cheaper player) the man should be fired. If the plan was to convince Chris Paul, Klay Thompson or DeMar DeRozan to take the vet minimum like he did Trevor Ariza (no other team wanted him) and Carmelo Anthony (no other team wanted him) and I forget what other NBA AARP member was on that ill-fated squad, he’s just not paying attention.
    3. Where’s AD? Just like the 4th quarter of a big game…AD is nowhere to be seen. I’m sure he’ll bounce back tomorrow. Argentina? Cape Town? Who knows. He’s locked in anyhow, he can’t renegotiate his deal, so not too sure what he’d do to help other than remind LeBron to eat his power shake made from the souls of NBA legends long since passed. “AD, the Jerry West shake is DELICIOUS!” (too soon?). I kid though, AD is the cornerstone and is doing his job as quietly as this modern world allows. I hope.
    4. It’s not that bad y’all. Seriously, it isn’t. At this point let’s assume that LeBron is going to end up taking the max for 1,2 or 3 years, hopefully with team and/or player options of some kind that make it so we’re not screwed if he gets seriously hurt. We have AD, for all his strengths and flaws, DLo who can be a difference-maker in the regular season and a couple good games in the playoffs (maybe), solid players on cheapish contracts and we’re getting younger. That’s the main thing I think is being influenced by Reddick in all honesty. There may be a conflict of interests in that I can’t imagine J.J. Reddick wants to spend his first few season butting heads with vets who are about his age and have done more in the league than he ever did. I think he would much rather coach a team with a vet he knows well (LeBron) a vet he’s hopefully apologized to for ranking him so poorly defensively (AD) some solid role-players still looking to make a serious mark (the rest of the starters and most of the bench) and young guys (Knecht and I dunno…JHS I guess, maybe Lewis and Castleton). Remember, we ended last season just 5 games out from being the 4th seed. That was with injuries to Vando and Vincent that sidelined them most of the regular season. If AD and LBJ can largely replicate their health from last season and some of the role guys improve or just play, that could be a big enough swing to take us out of the playin and into the playoff realm. One could also argue the west got a little weaker this summer with talent dispersing itself more equitably (by design and courtesy of the new CBA).
    5. So, in your opinion Jamie just why has this been such a quiet free agency for the Lakers? Glad you asked, here’s what I think: we had no cap space, not even the TPMLE to start free agency because we had to wait on players to opt in, not surprisingly they waited until basically the last second because they hoped something better would open up, when their agents told them that wasn’t likely they opted in thus removing all potential cap space from the equation. Simple logic. Concerning our draft picks 5 years out and the pick swaps and all that…they’re not as valuable as they used to be (or some people think they are) because nobody knows how bad the Lakers will be. If the Lakers are good, the picks will probably be mediocre, at best. The lottery system also dissuades teams from giving up the ghost for a potential rookie 5 years from now when GM X may or may not even have a job. The new CBA penalties are draconic and we’re seeing that play out in free agency. Max contracts for under-performing players are toxic. Injured players with gas left in the tank (their opinion, of course) are signing for pennies. My takeaway is that having 10-15 million in actual cap space every summer is going to be the new modus operandi for a lot of teams now. We’ll see more teams taking a hit by letting a guy walk to free up space so they can use all the spending tools a lot of teams absolutely rely on to fill out the margins. Otherwise you’ll be like the Knicks: watching a quality player walk for nothing to another team with money to pay him. Bird Rights in trades will be ESSENTIAL going forward because we saw Hartenstein walk and the Knicks had his Early Bird Rights…wasn’t enough. That second apron will be the death of super teams and the three super star model, by design, but it may also herald the end of the two superstar teams depending on which superstars are available at any given moment. We got 2 guys taking up over 50% (approaching 60%) of our 1st apron tax space.

      One last point, on the pride of an elite athlete. It has been tossed about that a player of Chris Paul’s caliber and possibly even Klay Thompson or DeMar DeRozan could be had for the vet minimum. I’m not talking specifically here, just in general I see a lot of that stuff. I don’t think we factor in things like “personal pride” or “hard work” enough. Ask yourself a simple question: if someone who had never done your job before, who was also the owner manager of your work place, came up to you and said something along the lines of “I know you make $25/hour now…but about taking $15/hour so we can hire someone else? Oh, also and by the way, I’M not taking any kind of pay cut at all. So…whaddaya think!?” you would be pissed. You would be angry. You would do what Klay Thompson just did and find another job, maybe even for the amount the other guy asked you for because eff you pal. These are people who are elite, all of them, even JHS. They are the top 1% of the basketball world and it’s by a really large margin. It’s everyone’s choice how to view that and factor it into trades or contract offers but in this one area I actually think the Lakers lead the league and that is respecting the work. Getting off the soap box now, next man up.

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    • Also, think about this: next summer we’ll see AD’s extension kick in and if LBJ takes the max those 2 will cost $113 million in cap space, alone. Now toss in Reaves, Vincent, Vando and Hachimura (or at least the salaries they represent as they could be traded for someone(s) else making about the same and you’re already at roughly $164-165 mil in cap space. That would mean just letting JHS and Lewis walk and we haven’t factored in Knecht or Bronny so that figure is higher (we won’t have to worry about a FRP next summer, we don’t have one yet). We’ll basically be capped out next summer, too.

      So get used to this. Or don’t. it’s entirely up to you lol.

      CAP SPACE-A-GO-GO the new game sweeping the nation and leaving hoops fans disappointed and disillusioned with their team’s inability to print money and sign everyone! New from Parker Bros.

    • Excellent 5’er Jamie. Completely agree.

    • Wow, Jamie! Your analysis is what I will call the brutal truth. Truth hurts a lot, and that’s why I am hurting right now. But it has to be said. What we Lakers fans are facing now is real, and there seems to be no light at the end of the tunnel. The Lakers’ financial situation is like a triple-double gone wrong.

      Through a combination of inept management and incompetence, the Lakers found themselves juggling a hefty payroll with LeBron James and Anthony Davis alone gobbling up more than half of the team’s salary cap.

      Yes, LeBron’s willing to sacrifice to increase the team’s chances to bring in a quality player, and LeBron’s willing to take a pay cut. But that’s like asking a superstar to play with a blindfold – noble, but not enough. His $51 million cap hit still looms large, but the man had worked hard throughout his career, and deserves every penny that comes his way. Even if the Lakers have a mid-level exception (say around $12 million), it’s like finding pocket change in a couch – not enough for a star player.
      One can only hope players like Gary Trent Jr. or Derozan might join, but it’s like hoping for rain during a drought. The Lakers need more firepower, and that’s why being financially handicapped makes me feel sad as a fan.
      I am sure many of us agree the 2023/24 season has been a rollercoaster – injuries, disgruntled players (though not overt), and missed trade opportunities. Most of these problems point to gross mismanagement, if not lack of vision. It is like watching your favorite player airball a clutch shot.
      In short, the Lakers have been playing chess with checkers money. The question that keeps burning inside of me is: How can the Lakers improve their situation? Well it seems there will be no answer to this question anytime soon.
      Let’s hope they make a big splash soon!

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    With the news that Christian Wood and Jaxon Hayes are opting in on very cheap/cap friendly deals I think we need to look almost exclusively at wings and big, mobile guards under 87 years old. That takes Klay and CP3 out of the mix. With the Lakers extending Castleton the 2 way QO it shows they intend to keep him unless another team actually offers him a contract (and maybe even they choose to match it). At the very least it looks like they did the young man a solid by guaranteeing him a raise if someone else wants him.

    AD, Jax and Wood, LeBron and Vando are enough big bodies. Between the 4 there’s enough good, shooting and skill to compete in the regular season. If we have the ponies for LM from Utah or KO from Toronto I’d be cool with that, I’d also be cool trading one if Wood or Jax along with Rui to Chicago for Vucevic.

    But then we have to use the MLE, should it be available, on a wing. Kinda doubt Tobias Harris will come for the full MLE but we could slot DeMar DeRozan at the 3 (doubt he’d be happy coming off the bench, at least to start the season but who knows…insert wish for a coach who has done this before and understands how to talk to vets properly…) but that still trends toward old and under-sized. Grant looks too pricey given his impact in winning but there’s an argument that it’s his situation and not specifically him. Still, not sure we have the ponies for that race.

    So here’s a list, in no particular order, of wings under 35 who can contribute on both ends that could be had for the MLE (IMO):
    -Precious Achiuwa
    -Tobias Harris (this one is a stretch in logic honestly)
    -Kelly Oubre (personal top choice)
    -Saddiq Bay
    -Naji Marshall (could challenge for a starting spot honestly)

    Staying away from the Covington’s and Hayward’s as my hope is we get younger and not older and that we focus as much in defense as much as shooting.

    Current State of Mind

    With the news that Christian Wood and Jaxon Hayes are opting in on very cheap/cap friendly deals I think we need to look almost exclusively at wings and big, mobile guards under 87 years old. That takes Klay and CP3 out of the mix. With the Lakers extending Castleton the 2 way QO it shows they intend to keep him unless another team actually offers him a contract (and maybe even they choose to match it). At the very least it looks like they did the young man a solid by guaranteeing him a raise if someone else wants him.

    AD, Jax and Wood, LeBron and Vando are enough big bodies. Between the 4 there’s enough good, shooting and skill to compete in the regular season. If we have the ponies for LM from Utah or KO from Toronto I’d be cool with that, I’d also be cool trading one if Wood or Jax along with Rui to Chicago for Vucevic.

    But then we have to use the MLE, should it be available, on a wing. Kinda doubt Tobias Harris will come for the full MLE but we could slot DeMar DeRozan at the 3 (doubt he’d be happy coming off the bench, at least to start the season but who knows…insert wish for a coach who has done this before and understands how to talk to vets properly…) but that still trends toward old and under-sized. Grant looks too pricey given his impact in winning but there’s an argument that it’s his situation and not specifically him. Still, not sure we have the ponies for that race.

    So here’s a list, in no particular order, of wings under 35 who can contribute on both ends that could be had for the MLE (IMO):
    -Precious Achiuwa
    -Tobias Harris (this one is a stretch in logic honestly)
    -Kelly Oubre (personal top choice)
    -Saddiq Bay
    -Naji Marshall (could challenge for a starting spot honestly)

    Staying away from the Covington’s and Hayward’s as my hope is we get younger and not older and that we focus as much in defense as much as shooting.

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    • Now if LeBron has a list of players he’ll reduce salary for that changes a lot.

      • It’s funny to me that all the click bait guys seem to think the Lakers need offense and it’s all about shooters. The Lakers were 6th in scoring and I believe 7th in 3 point shooting percentage. Now we didn’t take enough 3’d but I think JJ will fix that. We need to improve our defense. I like Marshall as well. But I don’t think he’s a name that LeBron will take a pay cut for. If Vando and Vincent are healthy that will help. Since he barely played, fans tend to forget that Vincent is a highly regarded on ball defender. We didn’t sign him for his offense although he was a capable offensive player during the Heats playoff run last year. Biggest problem for the Lakers is it’s a weak free agent class and solid 2 way players are expensive.

        • Spot on. It’s always perplexing to me as well when folks say “All we need is a coupla 3&D guys” as if there’s a buncha these guys just sitting around the parking lot at Home Depot waiting to be picked up. Quality guys like this are rare and 2 of the better ones (Murray & Bridges) are already off the board.

    • I wouldn’t mind seeing KCP coming back either. Lebron might take that big pay cut for a fellow Klutch brother.

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    With nothing but the contracts of Hachimura (semi-valuable), Gabe Vincent (barely played), Jarred Vanderbilt (barely played but with still decent upside) and the Tax-Payer MLE were basically running it back. Could we see some trades in a week? Maybe, but Rob is either too slow to pull the trigger or teams aren’t interested in our talent and/or picks still 5 years out. Compounding the issue is we still can’t offer salary relief the season after next for anyone except Russell, whom we have all acknowledged would be difficult to replace.

    Soooo…we’re running it back.

    With nothing but the contracts of Hachimura (semi-valuable), Gabe Vincent (barely played), Jarred Vanderbilt (barely played but with still decent upside) and the Tax-Payer MLE were basically running it back. Could we see some trades in a week? Maybe, but Rob is either too slow to pull the trigger or teams aren’t interested in our talent and/or picks still 5 years out. Compounding the issue is we still can’t offer salary relief the season after next for anyone except Russell, whom we have all acknowledged would be difficult to replace.

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    • Not even sure if we have the MLE either…

      • Rumor found the water mill is LBJ considering opting out and taking less. How much less being the question. Likely not enough for the full MLE.

        • Waiting on Cam. If he opts in, that’s 15 players and another headache for Rob. We are so close to the 2nd apron even stretching Lewis hurts. He didn’t look good in G league so we might not even be able to pay a team to take him. Hood-Shapino might have some value but an injury riddled rookie season ending in back surgery isn’t helpful.

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    For all the folks whining about nepotism in the instance of Bronny James, while turning a blind eye to Giannis and his family team in Milwaukee, all the kids of great players who have jobs on their old teams, and so on: grow up.

    It’s the 55th pick, it was always going to be a G-League level prospect. Heck, players who averaged fewer points than Bronny went in the 1st round to other teams. He comes into the league with his head on right, decent defensive skills, and the willingness to embrace the process of improvement rather than the shortcut of entitlement. What more is anyone truly expecting from a late second-rounder?

    I think that Bronny will be given the same opportunity to shine as JHS, who did go in the 1st round and looks like a two-way player, at best. He’ll be in camp, maybe play some minor minutes with Pop in preseason, and play a lot in the G-League.

    If having Bronny around infuses new excitement into The King for the regular season the pick is worth it. If Bronny is better than expected it’s doubly worth it. If Bronny doesn’t work out, oh no….gee whiz…it’s no worse than Maxwell Lewis ended up. Ergo, nothing lost. In short I only see positives from this.

    Getting bent outta shape because you see this is as nepotism means you’re just very, very late to the party. It’s been alive and well in America for centuries . Get used to it and find something that matters to get pissed about.

    Concerning Bronny James

    For all the folks whining about nepotism in the instance of Bronny James, while turning a blind eye to Giannis and his family team in Milwaukee, all the kids of great players who have jobs on their old teams, and so on: grow up.

    It’s the 55th pick, it was always going to be a G-League level prospect. Heck, players who averaged fewer points than Bronny went in the 1st round to other teams. He comes into the league with his head on right, decent defensive skills, and the willingness to embrace the process of improvement rather than the shortcut of entitlement. What more is anyone truly expecting from a late second-rounder?

    I think that Bronny will be given the same opportunity to shine as JHS, who did go in the 1st round and looks like a two-way player, at best. He’ll be in camp, maybe play some minor minutes with Pop in preseason, and play a lot in the G-League.

    If having Bronny around infuses new excitement into The King for the regular season the pick is worth it. If Bronny is better than expected it’s doubly worth it. If Bronny doesn’t work out, oh no….gee whiz…it’s no worse than Maxwell Lewis ended up. Ergo, nothing lost. In short I only see positives from this.

    Getting bent outta shape because you see this is as nepotism means you’re just very, very late to the party. It’s been alive and well in America for centuries . Get used to it and find something that matters to get pissed about.

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    • Sheeeiiiiitttt!!!!….(Clay Davis voice)…..my dad got me my 1st job and I’m STILL in the same industry 40yrs later. So needless to say; I ain’t mad at LBJ! But lets keep it 100. What’s really got a bug up the azz of a certain segment of the population is that they can’t deal with a player (aka “the help”) wielding the type of power LeBron has over a franchise. Ain’t no fun when the rabbit has the gun….lol.

      • I agree with everything you said Jamie. My only concern was that we now have 3 roster spots filled by guys that are likely spend most of the time in the G league. If Cam and Hayes both opt in that can create a problem.

        • I’m not even all that worried about that. Even if everyone opts in and we make no trades that’s only 12 players plus DK and Bronny. Roster size is 15 plus 3 two-ways.

          If everyone opts in we won’t have anything but the MLE available, anyhow, so I think it’s fine. If some game-altering vet minimum player did want to come here just cutting Lewis isn’t a big hit. We don’t get the cap space but we do free up the roster spot. Honestly, same for JHS IMO.

          If we do end up making a trade it’s either going to be one-to-one (or close to it) or multiple contracts on our end going out for a single player coming back.

      • Exactly, it’s basically how America works at this point. If that’s the major sticking point for any fans they need to move on.

    • As for Bronny’s “impact” on the team? There should be none this season. Sure, he’ll eventually get on the court with Pops in a forced PR move that’ll have him throwing a lob to his dad that’ll be replayed on ESPN a million times. But in reality he should be with the South Bay Lakers the entire season getting court-time and learning where he fits in the NBA. Sitting at the end of the bench, bonding with Shapino & Lewis while getting zero run won’t be productive. Hopefully Lebron realizes this…

      • I might go as high 1-2% impact on the regular season (and we did see Captain Long Arms aka THT do well in the playoffs as a rook) but nobody should be counting on it.

        I think everyone understands the process he’s embarking on, it’s just fans who get all ruffled and huffy about this stuff. Like you said about the rabbit, nobody wants to see the sheep in charge of the clippers.

      • The lob for the highlight segment’s gotta happen in game 1. Can’t count on 40 year old Lebron staying healthy long enough for that hallmark moment to happen later in the season.

        • Honestly, LeBron can wait to suit up until 2025 if it means he’ll impact the playoffs more (it won’t and he won’t so it doesn’t matter)

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    Looks like we (maybe) learned another NBA GMing 101 lesson! Rob simply made the best choice available, didn’t get it muddled with illusions of drafting the next Wes Unseld at 17. They picked the best player available. Easy, right?

    Based on last summer’s draft, evidently not. With questions as to what Jalen Hood-Schifino is even good at and Max Lewis struggle to shoot at a rec league level there were no guarantees we wouldn’t all be left scratching our heads when the dust settled.

    Rob didn’t draft Bronny in the first round, something that didn’t seem plausible but was certainly possible. It would have been borderline criminal if he had. He just didn’t impact winning in a meaningful way. It could be argued not being drafted at all and playing overseas somewhere would benefit him more than trying to carve out a role in the NBA while still learning the game.

    He didn’t pick a center that would just as likely (if not more likely) be a project that doesn’t align with LeBron’s timeline in any meaningful way. Just didn’t make sense to me with the number of available, serviceable centers on the free agency market, Hayes possibly picking up his option, Wood having already picked up his option, but mainly because we have AD at the 5. Plus we have a project center on a two-way deal in Castleton and some of our best line ups will probably have LeBron at the 5 in small ball situations as the “stretch 5”.

    He picked Dalton Knecht, who on some boards I saw was as high as a top 5 pick but generally fell into the 7-12 range. To have him fall into our laps…like Whitmore and Jaquez did last season…seemed almost too good to be true. The only left was Rob not blowing it. Thankfully he did not.

    It’s bittersweet for me because the bar for Rob doing his job is set to toddler low. We get excited when he does the obvious thing right. That’s unfortunate because there are better minds out there available right now. Maybe they don’t want to come work at The Lakers Family Circus, and honestly that gets more and more understandable as the years go by, but it would be nice to see someone who does the job well at the helm.

    Basically I’m tired of watching guys learn on the job around here. When your relationships matter so much more than your experience, that’s problematic. When the head of the organization values loyalty more than savvy or honesty, that’s a biiig problem (see America, United States of). So, while I’m happy we picked the most NBA-ready talent out there who looks like he can contribute right away, I’m also annoyed that it doesn’t seem to be the norm. That we need to constantly learn these simple lessons the hard way.

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    Looks like we (maybe) learned another NBA GMing 101 lesson! Rob simply made the best choice available, didn’t get it muddled with illusions of drafting the next Wes Unseld at 17. They picked the best player available. Easy, right?

    Based on last summer’s draft, evidently not. With questions as to what Jalen Hood-Schifino is even good at and Max Lewis struggle to shoot at a rec league level there were no guarantees we wouldn’t all be left scratching our heads when the dust settled.

    Rob didn’t draft Bronny in the first round, something that didn’t seem plausible but was certainly possible. It would have been borderline criminal if he had. He just didn’t impact winning in a meaningful way. It could be argued not being drafted at all and playing overseas somewhere would benefit him more than trying to carve out a role in the NBA while still learning the game.

    He didn’t pick a center that would just as likely (if not more likely) be a project that doesn’t align with LeBron’s timeline in any meaningful way. Just didn’t make sense to me with the number of available, serviceable centers on the free agency market, Hayes possibly picking up his option, Wood having already picked up his option, but mainly because we have AD at the 5. Plus we have a project center on a two-way deal in Castleton and some of our best line ups will probably have LeBron at the 5 in small ball situations as the “stretch 5”.

    He picked Dalton Knecht, who on some boards I saw was as high as a top 5 pick but generally fell into the 7-12 range. To have him fall into our laps…like Whitmore and Jaquez did last season…seemed almost too good to be true. The only left was Rob not blowing it. Thankfully he did not.

    It’s bittersweet for me because the bar for Rob doing his job is set to toddler low. We get excited when he does the obvious thing right. That’s unfortunate because there are better minds out there available right now. Maybe they don’t want to come work at The Lakers Family Circus, and honestly that gets more and more understandable as the years go by, but it would be nice to see someone who does the job well at the helm.

    Basically I’m tired of watching guys learn on the job around here. When your relationships matter so much more than your experience, that’s problematic. When the head of the organization values loyalty more than savvy or honesty, that’s a biiig problem (see America, United States of). So, while I’m happy we picked the most NBA-ready talent out there who looks like he can contribute right away, I’m also annoyed that it doesn’t seem to be the norm. That we need to constantly learn these simple lessons the hard way.

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    • I’m watching the 2nd round right now and can’t even keep track because trades are coming in rapid fire. Whole buncha centers coming off the board. None of this has involved us..so far. Rob will come out & say I can’t buy a house if ain’t for sale. But houses are selling like a MFer right now. And now Philly just got Bona. Rob ain’t that dude and JayJay The Basketball Messiah ain’t gonna change that. Damn Shame.

    • Jamie…I’m thinking about what Jalen Hood Schifino is good at. I’ll bet he has a very good patience level and will lay the blame for the lack of his development and actual game play on the previous coach (I forgot his name already, I only recall something about a guy being far overpaid and constantly checking his NADS as his hands were excessively in his pockets. I am not saying JHS is “all that”…I’m just hoping that he was partly victim of “wrong place/wrong time” and he was drafted with known back issue history….He’s only 21 years old now, he has size…like the previous year’s draftee that seems to be developing (Max Christie). I understand that Phil Handy has been highly respected and praised as “player development coach”…but I feel something went wrong when the last coach (Ham) was around. I just did a quick search and I could not find out when JHS’ back was injured, maybe his back had been bothering him for a while, (injury report in early December 2023 showed he was missing games due to back spasms….In December 2022, he was missing college games due to back issues….He’s young, he interviews with a positive attitude….his first year was a wash. Look at Michael Porter’s recovery. Yes, Porter plays more straight up, and he doesn’t dive on the floor like Rodman always did, but Porter does have value. I’m just hoping that last season will be forgotten players will all be evaluated for their abilities to adapt to the new coaching staff. I will add my consistent suggestion….Lakers should lose Jared Vanderbilt. He is overpaid, and apparently injury prone…IMHO, his offense is negative, his defense is overrated….

    • On a side note…NBA and ESPN gotta do a better job on this 2nd day presentation of the 2nd Round. It looks low budget and that green room is downright depressing. NFL would never. Do better guys.

      • I didn’t bother to watch, but NBA and ESPN should dress it up and present better for overall enthusiasm for the league. It means an awful lot to every player drafted (and of course someone will focus on a player or two who is disappointed in when drafted or not being drafted at all)….If the league hasn’t been able to repair the obvious degradation of the All Star Game and events….how long do you think it’ll be before 2nd round draft day is made notable (and I am not saying “sensationalized”)….. https://youtu.be/s__rX_WL100?si=-MA9xm4qPF-2rSb5

    • I think Redick will keep the team more focused and together as a unit…a TEAM. Of course, filling out the coaching staff with strong no BS upfront assistants…coaches with previous head coach experience in the NBA (I’d like to see 1-2 former head coaches on staff)…..coaches that will be firm, but will hear and process appropriately everything that players bring up to them. Assistant coach picks Rondo for one…I am not sold on Jared Dudley.

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    5 Things: Coach Reddick

    Well that’s over. Perhaps the worst kept secret in the NBA is now pretty much official news, save for an official Lakers press release. J.J. Reddick will be the next scapegoat, er head coach…heh, of the Los Angeles Lakers. Coach JJ will have a steep learning curve, a dysfunctional (and often cheap) front office, and the eldest statesman in the game to navigate so here’s hoping he’s up for the challenge. Let’s look at some of the challenges and what Reddick brings to the table.

    1. What does Reddick bring? Frankly…not much. We know he coached some 9 year old’s at one point, that he turned down other head coaching jobs in years prior, that he has a podcast with LeBron and was a role player in the NBA. That’s about it. Anything else you hear is projected supposition, at best. One positive that could be gleaned is that he also shows up without much baggage. There are no game 7 collapses to atone for, no time outs left in the pocket to explain, not really much at all. Good or bad. So if you’re of the opinion that a clean slate and an empty bucket are what the Lakers need from a head coach you got your man. There are zero interviews that I can find where he explicitly endorses any style of basketball, he seems to advocate a strong point of attack defense but that really doesn’t bring much to the table.
    2. Why am I not over the moon about this? I think that, because of the Lakers having a ton of expectations because of being both the Lakers and the team, on which LeBron will end his career, JJ has too steep of a mountain to climb. With the thinnest of resumes, a solid career as a role-player with some decent playoff experience and that’s it, there’s a lot of on-the-job learning coming his way. I don’t care that he and LeBron have a podcast because when there’s a 4-5 game losing streak you’re mired in none of that will matter. Hearing other unproven people, like Rajon Rondo, being considered for his staff doesn’t really fill me with confidence, either. You need someone who has done this before on that bench or I guarantee coaching will be the #1 issue we lose games next season.
    3. Don’t you think the Lakers did their due diligence? In short, no. I think that they had a #1, 2, & 3 options and they got rebuffed, again. Rob can’t close deals, this is fact now. So they took the sure “yes”. That is what I think. I think they, once again, imposed an artificial timeline of having a coach by the draft (like JJ will say “No! I’ve scouted and canvassed the ENTIRE field of draftees, take this guy!” lol). I think they, once again, couldn’t close the deal with their candidate of choice and had to look to a field of uninspiring…but knowledgeable…ex-coaches or highly regarded assistants. The Lakers had a list at the beginning of the offseason, two of the coaches (Ty Lue and Jason Kidd) on the list were/are still coaching their teams. Dan Hurley was #3. If you think due diligence and intense scrutiny led to this match I don’t know what to tell you.
    4. Are the Lakers set up in such a way for JJ to succeed right away? Now THAT my friends is the only question worth asking right now. Whether or not you agree with the hire it is now a moot point. What does JJ have to work with? A team that had a healthy LeBron and AD for the majority of the season, Reaves played in all 82 games and contributions from unexpected sources throughout the season and managed to get to the 8th seed and then lose in the 1st round. Not having Wood, Cam, Gabe and especially Vando definitely affected the defensive side of the equation. Wood was in and out and when he was in he was up and down. Cam was the same. Gabe looked OK at times in the playoffs when he finally got healthy but it came at the expense of a role Max Christie did well enough with and Max is a better scorer. DLo is a huge question mark, will he or won’t het stay and at what cost? The roster under=performed last season and Rob didn’t address any of it in-season. We’ll see how this one shakes out over the summer.
    5. So what do you think will happen, Mr. Smart Guy? Me, I dunno. I think Reddick is good for prep. Everything I’ve heard and read and based on his observations on Mind the Game lead me to believe he is thorough when it comes to studying the game. Observing X’s and O’s and creating them are two different things. Talking about what a guy should do and getting a locker room full of alpha personalities to actually do that are two very different things. Observing and coaching are two totally different realities. If JJ had been more of a locker room leader during his playing career I’d maybe have a little more optimism but everything I’ve seen or read on that indicates he was not. Which is fine when you’re a journeyman three point specialist. Will anything he’s learned on his professional and personal journey translate to success in coaching an NBA team? I truly have no clue.

    I’m reminded of Jim Buss and his now infamously legendary quote: “Evaluating basketball talent is not too difficult. If you grabbed 10 fans out of a bar and asked them to rate prospects, their opinions would be pretty much identical to those of the pro scouts.” Sure, he kind of tried to walk it back years later but that quote revealed a truth about both his work ethic and his respect for the work that goes into the game of basketball. Work we do not watch on TV. Work we don’t put ourselves through. Scrutiny we don’t understand. Everything that goes into making 10 or so athletes look good, play well and accomplish the goal of winning it all. JJ is a gamble, a high risk one at that, not sure what the high reward people talk about seeing because the reward is the same for anyone who takes the job. He can’t succeed any better than Frank Vogel did, who won us a title in his first season under unprecedented and never toi be replicated conditions and was fired 183 days later. He can only hope to reach that something akin to that height or be considered a failure to some degree. The only silver lining there is that this has got to be Rob Pelinka’s last coach he hires.

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