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    5 Things: Frizzle Fried

    The Lakers are a team forever on, at a minimum, low heat. Even the dudes who wipe the sweat off the court are under a microscope when you’re a part of the Lakers organization. So the heat will only get hotter for this team as they come home after a fairly disastrous road trip. All but gone are the good vibes from the 3-0 start and replacing them are injury concerns and mediocre effort from guys we expect more out of. The Lakers trudge home 4-4, 10th in the west, and with a lot more questions than answers.

    1. Laker defense blows. At 28th in the NBA with a 118.8 defensive rating the only way to describe the Lakers defense is dreadful. That’s a whole 4 points worse than we finished last season under Coach Ham. With the same team one would expect at least some form of continuity on that end but that doesn’t seem to be the case. We’re not getting back, we played physically for all of 3 games, and then just started letting the other team get into the paint and bully us on the glass. Our defensive rebounding has taken a 3.7% step back, as well. Whatever the coaches are trying to do isn’t working and I don’t think a trade or Vando coming back is enough. The team needs to either fix the physicality issue or change it’s coverage schemes because the blueprint to beat us is pretty simple: play fast. We’re in the bottom five for most measurable defensive metrics. That’s just not anywhere near good enough.
    2. The offense looks solid through 8 games and I expect it to improve slightly in efficiency. This isn’t the area where the lakers are struggling. Our offense is currently the 8th best. Continuity on this end hasn’t been a huge problem, we’re scoring smart and we’re scoring well. We just can’t get a stop anymore. The only area that could stand to get cleaned up a little are the turnovers where we’re probably trying to force things too much or short cut the play in favor of a riskier cross court pass.
    3. Leave Knecht on the bench. I knew as soon as I saw Rui out this would pave the way for a poor decision: starting Dalton Knecht. The dude is playing pretty well off the bench and has a nice role he’s already carved out. Give him the time to get better at that and start a guy like Cam to infuse the starting lineup with the correct kind of juice. Cam played really well in his minutes and happens to be playing for his NBA life. He was a spark plug for us last season and Coach Reddick has been pining for one of those energy guys while simultaneously ignoring the one he has that’s healthy and ready to play.
    4. Enough with this 9 man rotation. Both the coaches and the players need more time. You’re not doing yourself a single favor by essentially benching 1/5th of your roster so you can play who you think are the 9 best. You’re 4-4 with no clear path back to consistently winning, the first month of the regular season is glorified training camp where the games matter, this is still an apropos time to be discovering combinations that work and a rotation doesn’t have to be set in November. It needs to have an idea of what it is by 2025, it needs to be comfortable with one another by January and if it’s not working it needs to be changed as best it can via trade in February. Lastly, there are 4…maybe 5…total players who deserve to be in a 9 man rotation. The rest are role players so use this time now to figure out which ones augment those intelligent 2 man pairings based off LeBron/Reaves and AD/DLO.
    5. Letting the wrong players leave. Under Rob Pelinka, and numerous coaches, we’ve let the wrong players leave the organization far too often. I’m not talking about how we draft, although prior to Knecht that, too, left a lot to be desired, but rather what we do with the players we actually have and why we choose to let some of them walk for no reason. Alex Caruso left so we could keep THT who has almost bottomed out of the league while Caruso plays a meaningful role in OKC. Instead of Scottie Pippen Jr. we somehow still have Maxwell Lewis on the roster and after watching Scottie dissect us on defense it’s hard for me to understand why. The kid just plays hard and plays right. What does Lewis even do well in the G League? This disturbing trend has resulted in a severe talent drain of affordable players that a team like the Lakers can’t afford to keep getting wrong.

    Got another one tomorrow on my birthday. Which seems to always get ruined by an election or a bad Lakers game. The shitty election already happened so here’s hoping at least the Lakers win against the injury ravaged 76ers… Yay 50.

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    • Nice Post Jamie, I never am optimistic when AD is out. I knew defense would be a problem. What was weird was it really wasn’t the stars that killed us. It was Pippin as you mention, that rookie wells, I think he hit 5 3’s And Jay Huff, another South Bay Laker alum. I liked him then and he is more like the back up 5 we need now. But it boiled down to shooting, which I thought would be the case. We missed a ton of open 3’s. We were 15 for 48 while they were 17 for 34. That was basically the difference. Austin and Dlo were a combine 4 for 18 and Dalton was 1 for 7. This year reminds me of last year at the beginning of the season when we lost games because we couldn’t hit open shots. We have to be better. I agree on Cam, he has been a bright spot. He started well last year to before a series of injuries seemed to derail his game. Hopefully he stays healthy. By the way my birthday is Saturday. We are almost birthday bro’s.😊

      • Me either, and it was nice to see Koloko get some run. Looks rusty but that’s expected.

        What’s concerning, if not all that surprising given that we ran it back, is that we’re losing games the same way we did last season. Which means, in a lot of ways, it ain’t the coach but the personnel that’s the true issue. I think that we’re seeing that play out now.

        Rebounding continues to be the Achilles Heel and you can add in transition defense and a lack of paint protection now, too. Part of it is a lack of talented size, some of it is we need a 40 year old on the floor to score enough points to win, and some of it is either a bad scheme or the players not fully executing the scheme (my personal jury is still out and waiting 20 or so games on that one).

        The step forward we all hoped/needed one of Reaves/DLO/Hachimura or Christie to take hasn’t really materialized, at least not anything consistent. That’s not a knock on anyone but rathe the sobering reality of a team that had it’s two best players on the floor for the majority of the games last season and ended up in the Playin all the same. That indicates someone other than AD or LeBron needs to become a bigger factor.

        • Last year our starting unit was 21-8 down the stretch with a 110 defensive rating. The biggest difference is we were shooting a great percentage and not turning the ball over much. That has killed our transition defense. We also had Prince and Dinnwedie coming of the bench in stead of Christie and Dalton. Both were good defenders and Prince was shooting the 3 like we hoped Dalton would. I really do think we will be better when Vando and Wood come back. After that Dalton or Christie really have improve.

      • It’s quite a coincidence that Jamie and Michael are almost birthday bros. Tom’s birthday is exactly one month away – December 7th. I am going to wish you both great birthdays filled with serenity.

    • Wow, great post, Jamie!
      Regarding your point about Dalton and the need to start Cam for some much-needed energy in the lineup, I absolutely agree! Cam has shown his value on the court, especially since he’s playing for his NBA life. He really was a spark plug for us last season, and it feels like Coach Reddick is overlooking this healthy, energetic guy in favor of others. You’re spot on about Cam. In fact, he is the only player with a positive +/- in the last two games.
      The last five games highlight our current struggle: the lack of a strong bench. Remember when we prided ourselves on the depth of our roster? We called them the “bench mob” for a reason!
      Just the other day, I expressed my frustration over not keeping Jay Huff and Scotie Pippen Jr. Why in the world are we hanging on to Maxwell Lewis and JHS? It feels like we’re gifting talent to the Grizzlies, who are now proving us wrong with those players. Collin Castleton has just been added to that list after moving from the Lakers. This early in the season, I really don’t think we should be locked into that 9-man rotation you mentioned. We need to rethink our strategy! Great post; keep the conversation going!

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    5 Things: Lakers Fall Flat and Get Rolled

    Nothing to learn from this other than how to move on from a bad loss. The Phoenix game, even though we coughed up a late lead, felt competitive. This game never did as the Cavs got what they wanted, when they wanted, and how they wanted it. There was not much resistance offered from the Lakers even though we got down big early, again, and had shown that steady approach to coming back works. Whether it’s some guys still finding their legs, the early and lengthy road trip or just that the Cavs are that much better we never really were in this game after the first few minutes.

    1. The Lakers defense ain’t great. We’re giving up 50.8 points in the paint per game so far. That’s, in part, being fueled by our league worst transition defense which gives up 21.2 ppg (the only team in the Association to give up more than 20). Our transition defense is non-existent. In specific, switching everything (or 1-4 when AD’s man happens to be in the paint) every time is both predictable and easily exploitable, as we’ve now seen with our own eyes against quality opponents. The seams it creates are letting guys get to the rim and score. That leads to softer switches that offer more room and then guys shoot the three over us. The physicality we saw in the first 3 games didn’t make the road trip, as can be seen by the vast free throw disparity last night in which Cleveland shot well from everywhere (57.7% overall, 41.5% from three) while only getting to the line 8 times compared to our 33. When you win the free throw battle by that much, one generally expects a W. If we stick with switching 1-4 we need to stay attached better to both players (screener and ball handler) and I’ll take an uptick in fouls called if that’s what it takes. Laying back off the screens like a bunch of softies is just creating quality shots for the other team and isn’t working at all. This was, and remains, my biggest concern with Reddick as a head coach, and so I’m curious to see what changes. If anything does.
    2. Lakers back court needs to be better. Mainly DLo but Reaves needs to be in attack mode at all times, too. Reaves should be in the conversation of “whose team” this is almost as much as AD because he’s more of an initiator of the offense. Shooting the ball a measly 6 (Reaves) and 7 (Russell) times, respectively, means there isn’t enough pressure being applied; although in D’Angelo’s case he did get to the line 7 times when his 3 ball wasn’t (still) falling. There’s not a great option to turn to after those 2 guys so they need to get it done night in and night out a lot better and consistently than they’ve done so far. They look good in wins, bad in losses and as they go so, too, does the Lakers fortunes.
    3. Bronny got his first NBA hoop. Yay.
    4. The Lakers bench needs to do more. Like…a lot more. The Net Rating for the Lakers bench is -4.7 and would be a lot worse without Dalton Knecht. This difference isn’t because they’re letting the other team score at will, the Lakers bench has the 6th best defensive rating in the league. We’re middle of the pack in scoring the rock but lead the league in pace (the bench, not the team overall). It may be worth exploring the idea of slowing it down a bit since we’re killing it in transition, anyhow. At any rate our myopic scoring output is a huge issue as we move further into the season. I expect Knecht to hit the rookie wall at some point (they all do) and other than him nobody is scoring effectively yet. Vando getting minutes over Christie and Hayes could help alleviate that but that isn’t the current reality. Somebody besides Knecht needs to contribute and if you move him to the starting 5 I worry the bench will fall utterly off a cliff.
    5. Good news! It’s still early and the road trip is still salvageable. Win in Toronto. That needs to be the focus. Don’t worry about anything else but executing and getting the W in Canada and then focus on Detroit followed by voting (VOTE!) and then Memphis. Just focus on taking care of the business in front of you. All the history is out of the way now, the team has shown it’s good enough to compete at a high level when fully engaged on a physical level, so make that the priority. If you’re competing at a high level, playing as hard and focused as you can, then good things usually generate themselves. Don’t let the losing define the road trip or when you come back it’ll be harder to find that home mojo, again, and no team worth it’s salt is only good at home. Need to be able to win on the road and win consistently. You also don’t want to tumble down the standings early, we’ve all seen how that affects the late season race to getting favorable playoff placement and it’s not fun. We’re still a top 6 team, just need to go out and play lie one, again.

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    • Nice post Jamie, after looking at the schedule if asked before the season I would have been pleased with a 3-2 start. the Suns game was the one that hurt. could have won that one. just a couple of things. Austin and Rui’s offense have been big parts of our success and each only got 6 shots. thats on JJ. the other thing is our transistion defense will get better once we reduce that mountain of live ball turnovers to atleast a hill. So many of them have occurred at mid court leading to a unreal amont of 3 on 1 fast breaks for the opposition. The imprtant thing now is to win the games we should win. we didnt always do that last year. our next two are games we should win. go Lakers.

      • Thanks man, I feel like a lot of the issues are correctable and the turnovers are total killers right now. That’s gotta get cleaned up ASAP.

    • Good Fiver, Jamie.

      Overall, I’m happy with the 3-2 start. We have a good chance to finish 7-3 for first 10 games. I had predicted 8-2 but the loss to the Suns probably made that improbable

      This team has potential to be a legitimate contender if healthy. Having Vando, Wood, and Koloko would have been a huge difference maker in our two losses. We can dominate the Suns if healthy. The Cavs are a different story. Their 3rd, 4th, and 5th players trump our 3 non-superstar starters. We simply had no answer for their size in the front court.

      I am concerned about LeBron and his battle with Father Time. Seeing him disappear against the Suns and then seeing the entire team disappear against the Cavs should be a wake up call for Rob Pelinka. We cannot wait until Vando, Wood, and Koloko are healthy. We just TOO SMALL.

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    5 Things: Lakers Drop 1st Game of the Season

    A lot went right in the loss but just enough went wrong that the Lakers were unable to hold two solid leads built up over the course of the game down the stretch. Credit to Phoenix for making shots and staying aggressive for all 48. I’m chalking this one up to “learning how to win on the road” in the schemes and with younger guys and rookies taking a more prominent role but we’re digging in on this one all the same.

    1. Lakers bench got thoroughly outplayed. The bench of the Lakers mustered 8 points and the whole group was outplayed by Royce O’Neal all on his own. Plumlee owned Hayes, too as Jaxson barely got 4 boards in his 13 minutes. Some of that was some good rotational choices made by Coach Bud who dropped Nurkic down to bench minutes territory with just 15 minutes (down from 18 the last time we played) in favor of 23 minutes for Plumlee (up from 19) but it was Royce O’Neal whom the Lakers really didn’t seem to ever adapt to his energy and activity. He hit big shots when our defense seemed designed to stop the “name” players. That’s a learnable lesson because, at this level, anyone can beat you on any given night. In the end we need more than 3 points from Gabe and 5 from Max. DK registered his first donut, along with Hayes, so lot’s for that group to take away mand grow from.
    2. Not enough points in the paint. 42 points (same as Phoenix scored and a lot of their came in transition) won’t get it done, especially on the road. We shot the 3 ball well (43.8%), and a lot…for us… (32), but it didn’t matter as it wasn’t enough to overcome Phoenix’s overall efficiency (46% for the game). On the road you need to lean in even more to your strengths and, for this Laker team, that’s AD in the paint. AD only got 5 FGA’s in the 4th quarter compared to 10 in the first. That doesn’t work for us. That’s another adjustment the staff can look to implement in the next film session: keep AD involved through 4 quarters and have him continue to set the tone in the paint.
    3. LeBron sick game. Bummer, but it happens and he played but he didn’t play well. So it goes.
    4. The question of Max Christie playing over either Knecht or Reddish. Max Christie, whether it’s deserved or not, is going to be one of the season-defining storylines this season. Can he play up to his new deal? The 4 year $32 million ($8 mil/season with a player option in 2027-28….VERY player friendly, overall) was offered relatively quickly when free agency hit. That money could have been used in other ways, we could have let the market dictate his value and matched another offer (or not) or we could have offered him less and see what came back. Maybe shades of Caruso vastly outplaying THT was dancing through Rob’s head and maybe the Lakers really see something in the guy that simply hasn’t manifested in an NBA game, yet. Regardless with players like Knecht in the waiting now, not to mention bigger/faster options in Reddish and eventually Jarred Vanderbilt, it’s a worthy debate to have. I like that they’re giving the kid a shot and this is certainly the best time to do that. The length of the experiment is all that I’m questioning right now and also whether or not Knecht has already earned a bigger role. I’m still undecided but leaning towards more DK.
    5. Christian Koloko is NOW cleared to play. Not last weekend, like Tom insisted was true repeatedly and vehemently on our podcast (and was also flat wrong about it), but today. Now, well, now we wait some more. Dude hasn’t played hoops in over a year so he’ll have plenty of ramping up ahead of him. He’s on an NBA two-way deal and so, as of this moment, can only play in 50 total games and not in the playoffs at all. Everything about this looks like he’s a project player to me but we’ll see what he manages to accomplish this season. One way or the other the Lakers are smart to swap a guy like Koloko who has the potential of NBA bonafide’s over Colin Castleton who never really looked like an NBA player. Expected impact this season: negligible.

    Roady continues tomorrow night against in Cleveland. I expect Bronny to get a 5 minute burn or so for the sake of playing in Cleveland but maybe not. Hope LBJ starts to feel better because we need his impact.

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    5 Things: Back-to-Back Wins Show Us All Something Good

    It can be easy to look too far ahead in life. To project into the future may may or may not occur. In the case of being a fan of the Lakers it’s almost easier to look back and see all that could have gone better, or in some cases, worse. When it comes to the start of the 2024-25 season I have, thus far, resisted the urge to define what this Lakers team will look like and prioritize. Too many variables left unaccounted for over the summer. Sure, we brought back the same roster, but folks tend to forget that Vincent and Vando barely played, Rui wasn’t available for the first month or so with a calf strain and then again for a couple weeks when he had the nasal fracture. The piling on Darvin Ham started early and didn’t really let up due both to his roster indecisiveness and some curios in-game choices that led to losses. New coaching blood was brought in, along with a couple rookies, and so everyone seemed to expect a sort of repeat from last season. That narrative ignores a lot of facts and when those are taken into account it’s not as surprising we’re not having de ja vu this season but getting a fresher, more exciting outcome.

    1. The emergence of Anthony Davis. It’s not often you see a player take a step forward this late in their career. I can honestly say I have never seen AD this dominant, confident and forceful in his play. Nothing tangible has changed much; looking at his shot chart it’s the same batch of AD type shots he’s always taken. What’s changed is both his demeanor (pissed off and hungry for respect he feels is lacking) and the team’s focus on getting him the ball early and not just on post ups. If you watch the best all around centers (Jokic and Sabonis) they get the ball above the free throw line out to the three point line and make reads off of that. They function in spots Kobe used to operate from and then, when he had the perfect Robin to his Bat Man in Pau Gasol, he ceded those spots to the Big Spaniard in favor of letting him generate easy offense in the half court. That never meant the iso game went away, it was simply relied upon a lot less and the team benefitted from it instantly. So, too, has this change elevated the laker offense as a whole. Gone are the muddy possessions where two or three players are operating out of the elbows, the corner and the arc three point line. That allowed the defense to load up on AD more and cut off driving lanes. These sets, to me, look vaguely like old triangle sets. AD at the elbow up to the three point line, a single shooter stationed down in the corner and another player moving through space creating the angled set of the same name: a triangle. I’ll get more into this idea down yonder but this kind of action has allowed AD to score, make a play for others and elevate the entire team in the doing.
    2. LeBron still LeBron. I kinda started to wonder…was this what he was going to look like all season? Under 20 ppg, decent impact, solid all around play, but markedly less impact than hoped for but we were winning so who cares? Cue Saturday night and a dominant 4th quarter run that put the Lakers firmly in the driver’s seat to close out the win. It’s good to know that the ultimate safety valve can still dial it up when needed. I also liked his post game comments about not needing to do that all game because we’re a team. It’s that camaraderie that we’ll need more of when the games get harder, possibly as soon as tonight on the road, to help weather storms and bumpy patches.
    3. Using the rookie right. Dalton Knecht is being used in the exact right way. He’s playing about 7-8 minutes/half and not generally in crunch time moments allowing him to both build up stamina (and hopefully avoid a rookie wall later in the season) and build up his confidence at the same time, although watching him play makes me think he doesn’t really lack for confidence. Still I’d rather see him continue in this way with a really specific role for the young man and let him grow into his talent rather than trying to rush things along because he’s had a nice stretch of play. Being the microwave scorer off the bench while playing a steady game in this role is the perfect way to incubate a rookie who you don’t necessarily need to rely on consistently just yet.
    4. The struggles of Max Christie. It’s not that he’s playing poorly, he’s making the right play in front of him, for the most part, and not forcing anything. It’s just that he won’t have a role when Vando comes back which will hopefully be before Thanksgiving. Max is too light to guard the bigger NBA players he often gets switched onto in our defensive schemes, isn’t aggressive enough (or frankly good enough) to be a microwave scorer, and generally looks like he’s topped out his skill set and talent at this point out there. Yes, I know we gave him a big deal early in free agency (and have often wondered why) but when Jarred returns there won’t be a role for him and even Hayes’ minutes could suffer a bit based on matchups. On the upcoming road trip I see two games where Max’s minutes will probably go to Bronny: in Cleveland for a Father/Son homecoming of sorts and maybe in Detroit if Max continues to have a willowy impact. Bronny could also see some action on the back-to-back in Toronto and let Vincent rest a game on the bench. Back to Max, he needs to find a higher level of aggression. I don’t need him to be the next Lou Williams but his presence needs to be felt and too often it simply is not.
    5. Coach Reddick pushing the right buttons so far. The honeymoon continues and the wins keep coming so what’s not to like? The rotations, mainly due to good health this season so far, have looked better. The biggest add has been off ball activity from our guards and wings from the corner spots. The defense has showed us some different looks and it will be interesting to see what ole Vando has/gets when he comes back. But, for me, the overall movement on offense and quick decisions we’re seeing are what’s setting Coach Reddick apart from his predecessor. As illustrated above, we’re seeing some triangle 101 type action to create movement and flow. This opens up backdoor cuts, defensive indecision which allows for quick scores, and a general “share the wealth” vibe which behooves great basketball. A lot fewer iso sets is always welcome, in my opinion. Not forcing threes because it’s 2024 and there’s only one way that everyone thinks basketball need be played now is always welcome. Enabling guys like Reaves and AD to make plays for others so the burden shifts away from LeBron having to do everything or relying on DLo to go off. This style of hoops has opened up Rui and Reave’s games a lot and here’s hoping this is the new status quo.

    Next up, a 5 game roadie starts tonight in Phoenix who likely would like to whup us pretty good. Great test of all the principles outlined above and here’s hoping we keep the good times rolling.

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    • Nice 5er Jaime, I agree with everything thing except one point. I don’t believe Max has tap out on his potential. The Kids 21. Dalton is 2 years older. For the most part I have liked his defensive energy but you are right, his offense leaves a lot to be desired. And you are also correct with Vando. When he comes back he will be coming in for LeBron, not Max. With Dalton filling the role of Austin’s backup Max will probably be reduced to spot minutes. Although I still am not sure if a 9 man rotation is best over a long season. Our first 3 games have been against 3 quality teams and it’s early so the heavy starter minutes are justified. But as the season progresses I think it would be wise to reduce those minutes some. This is where Max could fit in.

      • Good observation. I suppose “giving up” is a tad strong, just getting harder to see where he fits in on a competitive roster given his developmental challenges.

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    5 Things: 1st boxes checked

    Lotta “First” boxes checked last night. Bronny James and his pop shared the floor to check his first game and the first time a father/son duo shared the floor together. Dalton Knecht netted his first bucket(s). Coach Reddick got his first win. The Lakers won their first game. Only first left un-checked was Bronny scoring his first bucket, as well. After all that hullaballoo it would have been easy to lose the game, like so many historic moment games have gone of late, but after going back to the tried and true formula for recent Laker wins we pulled out the W and started the season right.

    1. No answer for AD. This must be the new way forward. There can’t be any disappearing acts this season if AD wants the respect that has recently proved elusive, and for the Lakers to reach their goals this is the way Anthony Davis needs to play night in and night out. 11-23 from the floor, (1-3 from three point land) to go with 16 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 blocks and a steal. There are few defenders that can hang with Davis and when he asserts himself it’s an entirely different looking Lakers team. AD creates shots and space in a manner that goes against the modern NBA grain: from the inside out. By dominating inside Davis creates shots for his perimeter guys and cutters. If he can average 5+ assists per game along with everything else he will be in the MVP conversation and rightly so.
    2. The Glue Man. If AD is a force of nature, Austin Reaves is the bond that makes everything look smooth. His all around effort and performance helped make this a rebounding neutral game (one where, for a time, we were dominant on the glass (until the effort of the T’Wolves up ticked after halftime). Like most of the team his three ball proved elusive but it didn’t deter him from being aggressive on the glass and in getting into the heart of the defense to make plays or shots. Nothing, except maybe the rebounds, jumps off the stat sheet but if you watched the games you saw a player applying pressure on the defense, contesting shots and aggressively hunting the rebound. That’s what we need out of Austin Reaves on the daily.
    3. The Rui Hachimura Power Game. It feels like a cosmic event, only seen once every few weeks or even months. But so far during the NBA 2024-25 season the power game of Rui Hachimura has been used every single game. Last night it was on full display and here’s hoping it’s around to stay. Gone were the willowy step back fade aways. Instead we saw player seeking contact and going up through it using both speed and power to get closer to the basket. Even on his jump shots I thought he was better about going straight up and into the shot rather than drifting back or to one side or the other. This, like Reaves, is the version of the player we need to see the most consistently. If he plays like this and averages close to 20 ppg on decent efficiency he’ll be in line for a most improved player award.
    4. The “new” Laker identity. Again, t’was but one single game. Still, it’s hard to ignore the fact that the Lakers won this game the way they won so many games the last 2 seasons regardless of the coach: power over style or volume. The Lakers interior game was stellar leading to a +32 point discrepancy in points in the paint. The free throw line battle was also a place we won, albeit by a single point, but the aggressiveness and pressure we apply by playing with force and attacking the basket is an advantage this team has that few do in the modern game. When the three ball was obviously not falling did we refuse to adapt and just keep chucking up bad shots? No, we pressed further into the defense and found guys around the rim and dominated the paint. Like we need to. As I’ve said, there is no correct answer to thew question of how many ______’s should we shoot? The number of any kind of shot attempts taken is inconsequential if winning is the objective. The answer will be different every night. What was heartening to see, for me anyhow, was that we didn’t try to re-forge an identity in one game. That we shot 5-30 from distance shows me that some guys aren’t consistent enough to make the three pointer the uber weapon some insist we must embrace beyond reason. That we pivoted away and went inside also showed me that both coach and player are adaptable and will seek to find what works beyond the outer politics of the game. As it should be.
    5. Rookie Watch 2025! They played. Knecht looked like he did in preseason: steady, albeit slow to react on defense. Bronny, too, in his whopping 3 minutes of game action in that he played hard if mostly ineffectually (nice offensive rebound though). Still, it was nice to get the side show over with and they can both move on to improving their games. In general I don’t see much of a role for Bronny that Reddish can’t do better and Knecht may ultimately lose minutes to Vando once he returns and if he can score ably enough. That’s OK, they’re both young and we can maybe slide Knecht into Max Christie’s minutes since he still looks a long way from ready for prime time. Either way, they’re both development projects, like Koloko will be should he ever get cleared, this season and my hope is they can slide into the roster slots and roles vacated next summer by Reddish and Wood. Knecht may prove to be further along than that but it’s early and he’s not going to get the minutes he can see down in the G League. A riddle for the staff to ponder, assuredly.

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    • Great piece. What I like about the team is the poise, and how organized they were from start to finish. The best thing? Fewer turnovers. The first season opener win since 2016 – 2017 season? That’s 8 years ago. Great win!!

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    5 Things: Here We Go

    The Los Angeles Lakers 75th season begins on today, 10/22/2024. It’s Bronny James’ first season and Papa James’ 22nd. It’s Coach Reddick’s first year steering the team and he is the Lakers 29th head coach. I pick the Lakers to finish 7th in the Western Conference and 4th in the Pacific Division. I expect AD to win zero major awards despite his unique talents and skills. So it begins anew. A fresh, clean season!

    1. Every new season in every sport is defined as much by optimism and hope as it is reality. For the Lakers hope comes in two forms: the health of their 2 superstars and the quick growth of Coach Reddick. Getting AD and LBJ through preseason healthy was, for me, a huge priority. Even with them playing in the vast majority of games last season we were only good for the Playin spots. So it stands to reason that, if they’re not available, we’re looking at a lottery placement. The integration and ascension of J.J. Redick as coach I expect to take more than just preseason. I’ve hard a lot of wonderful thoughts and ideas, read a lot of super interesting articles regarding those thoughts and ideas and it still leads me to a “now we’ll see” place. With a healthy AD and LeBron and some questionable health on down the line after them we were good enough to get to the 1st round of the playoffs under Darvin Ham who made a surprise run to the Western Conference Finals in his first season, a success that likely created an over-inflated opinion of what this roster is really capable of. After he was fired the Lakers went in a not-all-that unexpected direction by picking someone close to LeBron James…who had never coached anyone in his life other than 4th graders. Much has been made of his acumen as a player and a podcaster but, for my part, those are traits best suited for lead videographer on a staff, not the head coach. What I’ve seen on the floor has left a lot to be desired, so far. None of what’s happened really matters since A) He is the current coach, B) Our first option turned us down, C) The candidates after that were not guaranteed success stories in the making. Things working against JJ are the shorter preseason, the fact we had to travel to Milwaukee for one whole game, and that LeBron and AD both played significant roles in the Olympics. So I’m giving him the year to work this out better than I thought Coach Ham did. Here’s hoping.
    2. Things I’m worried about. The defense and our rebounding. None of those have looked much better in preseason…but then again it’s preseason. Part of the problem is neither Reaves or DLo are organic glass crashers, they just don’t ball hunt off the shot very well. LeBron is old, doesn’t want to jump for a rebound and land on someone’s foot or worse. I get that. That basically leaves AD and Rui until Vando gets back or someone else off the bench distinguishes themselves as an active rebounder. On defense we have a similar issue in that Rui and DLo tend to lose focus on defense. Reaves competes but can be backed down with ease. LeBron is old and will put forth effort…when the moment demands it of him. That leaves AD until Vando gets back. Gabe has been OK, but I think he’s still under-sized and lacks the quickness he had as recently as his time in Miami. Not sure if it’s something he can get back with reps and playing more or if he’s aging out of the ball hawk role. Regardless, I haven’t loved our schemes, either. We’re awful in transition, we switch on screens too quickly rather than fighting which has a dual effect: we’re getting fewer fouls called on offensive players (which at a minimum helps et a tone and can help get key guys in foul trouble).
    3. Things I’m not worried about. Scoring, in general. The shot profile in preseason can get tossed out the window because LeBron played zero 4th quarter minutes in preseason and AD played like 5 or so. LeBron also passed up a lot of shots he should take, which I expect he will once the games matter. Other than that everyone looked about the way they have for the last year and change. On the topic of three pointers DLo, Rui and Reaves are streaky, AD can take and make threes but we’re so much better off when he operates in and around the paint there’s no real need to stash him out there, and the guys off the bench are just plain inconsistent. There isn’t an number of threes I want to see us taking/game. They can be literally any number…as long as they are quality shot attempts. This is where the myth of the “green light” is easily exposed. I want all of our players to feel comfortable taking open (defender is more than 5 feet away from you) shots from everywhere. That is going to be a quality shot. Time winding down, 3 seconds or less on the clock, let it fly and so with confidence, there isn’t time for the play to evolve further. But if we just got the ball across the line and you call for a screen and jack it up because you’re feeling it or whatever, that my friends is a bad shot attempt. Even if it goes in, not what you want to see from pros. Work the ball into AD, let the defense collapse around him, move to your sweet zone and set you feet with hands in the ready position. You are now prepared to take a good shot. That’s what we need a lot more of. I still expect to see us dominate the paint, I’d like to see our shooters shoot smart threes, as many as can be generated, and if we accomplish that I don’t think we need to worry all that much about putting points on the board.
    4. The rookies. Bronny and Dalton are the only two drafted but Quincy Olivari will find himself in the mix as quick as either of those two if he keeps bringing the hustle. All three have issues: Bronny can’t shoot, yet. Dalton has no lateral foot speed and gets blown by with ease. Quincy is raw but seems to be a blend of both Dalton and Bronny. I think Dalton can carve out a solid role for himself on this team, maybe even have some crunch time opportunities in actual games. But I’m not investing all that much in summer or preseason games. Some guys shine as brightly as the lights do, some guys wilt under that heat. All three will get tested this season and my hope is they can show the best versions of themselves when the moment comes. I am not expecting or hoping for much impact from any of them beyond that. Of the 3 Knecht likely has the most assured role off the bench, at this time.
    5. Two Way Contracts 101. I keep seeing posts and articles that seem to insinuate that Koloko or Olivari can have a huge impact on the season. If they do, they’ll only have 50 games in the regular season to do so. Two Way players CANNOT play in the playoffs. In order for Koloko or Olivari to be playoff-eligible we’d have remove one of our standard contracts and not take a player back. For that reason along with the fact that we don’t have any non or partially guaranteed deals on the roster, I expect them to stay two-ways. Could something shake loose in a trade? I guess so but that would mean trading out more players than we bring back and even then we would also need to bring in a lot less money than we sent out in order to get them under the 2nd apron. All second apron penalties apply once you cross over, there is no grace period. Can they be feel good development stories? Absolutely. Will they transform our season and alter the trajectory of the franchise? In short, no.

    Go Lakers.

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    • Great post, Jamie. Thanks for your honest take.

    • I am not totally optimistic, cause I am not sure who will step up bigtime? AD will be AD and LBJ may slip a bit. Reaves and Dlo have been doing well for a few years, but how higher can they go? Perhaps Knect (SP) may arrive early?

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    What a journey for that young man. Facing a Brandon Roy-like end to his career it was really nice to see him play and play pretty well. While I doubt he’ll ever be able to play anything close to a starter’s role he could end up being a key piece off the bench for a good team if he can stay relatively healthy. Congrats to him and all of his hard work just to get back in the floor.

    GREAT to see Lonzo Ball

    What a journey for that young man. Facing a Brandon Roy-like end to his career it was really nice to see him play and play pretty well. While I doubt he’ll ever be able to play anything close to a starter’s role he could end up being a key piece off the bench for a good team if he can stay relatively healthy. Congrats to him and all of his hard work just to get back in the floor.

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    • This is in no way shape or form an endorsement for trading for him. Too pricey given what his impact will be based on his health record, come free agency for him I’d be fine pitching him a fair deal. Let the Bulls rehab his knee on their dime, though.

    • Really happy to see Lonzo back playing hoops.
      Would love to see him back in purple and gold.

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    Lotta bad, early shot clock threes. But at least we shot 40 of ‘em lol.

    Really bad defense and not much effort or focus on cleaning the glass.

    Looked like a team that had either partied in Vegas or was looking forward to it.

    AD was great. Not much positive after that.

    This One Was Hard to Watch

    Lotta bad, early shot clock threes. But at least we shot 40 of ‘em lol.

    Really bad defense and not much effort or focus on cleaning the glass.

    Looked like a team that had either partied in Vegas or was looking forward to it.

    AD was great. Not much positive after that.

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    • Good that they shot 40 threes but they need much better shot selection. It’s going to take some time. Lots of standing around while AD worked too, which was not what they were supposed to do. I hate preseason. Can’t wait for next week when games count.

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    Bummer, wish he was a part of our staff. Can understand why JJ would maybe be against it (or even if the front office just doesn’t have the same relationship that Doc and RR do) but if the goal is to have guys who grind and have a deep understanding of the game then NOT having Rondo around feels like a crime.

    Reading about it makes me respect the dude so much, he’s coming at the (eventual) job the right way. Or at least in a way that makes sense to me: study under a great, observe what it really means, be involved in camp, improve on that as time goes on.

    Hey, there is a small silver lining here, he might be primed to take the job about the time JJ gets canned lol.

    All kidding aside, he’s possessed of an uncanny mind when it comes to basketball. Wish he was here instead of Milwaukee.

    Rondo Helping Coach the Bucks

    Bummer, wish he was a part of our staff. Can understand why JJ would maybe be against it (or even if the front office just doesn’t have the same relationship that Doc and RR do) but if the goal is to have guys who grind and have a deep understanding of the game then NOT having Rondo around feels like a crime.

    Reading about it makes me respect the dude so much, he’s coming at the (eventual) job the right way. Or at least in a way that makes sense to me: study under a great, observe what it really means, be involved in camp, improve on that as time goes on.

    Hey, there is a small silver lining here, he might be primed to take the job about the time JJ gets canned lol.

    All kidding aside, he’s possessed of an uncanny mind when it comes to basketball. Wish he was here instead of Milwaukee.

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    Not sure if his own doctors or ours didn’t suggest surgery but it now looks short sighted…

    Bummer About Vando

    Not sure if his own doctors or ours didn’t suggest surgery but it now looks short sighted…

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    • This is why it’s so hard to trust the Lakers’ front office.
      They’re either incompetent or deliberately secretive.

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    5 Things: The Defense

    Summer has brought on the dog days and the new CBA has somewhat dulled player movement to the degree we’ve seen I. Summer’s past. Since I’m not seeing king happening on the trade front I thought now would be a good time to talk defense.

    The following assumes decent health for the team overall and isn’t accounting for player not currently on the roster. Those are exercises for the imagination, not reality.

    1) What might our defensive identity look like? The Laker defense has 2 main issues, besides limiting the opponent’s scoring, “hiding” DLo effectively and reducing wear and tear on LeBron James.  Of the 2 hiding DLo is the bigger challenge. With his decent size and average strength and overall speed (although he is quicker than most give him credit for) a 2-3 zone where he’s not the point of attack defender (when possible) where DLo and LBJ are responsible for the corner zones and AD is in the middle makes sense, especially if Vando is a starter and pressures half court, or even full at times.  Having LBJ man a corner zone means he can maybe crash the glass a little more and get the offense going off the break in addition to potentially reducing his responsibilities on that end. A 2-3 zone w/AD in the middle could lead to rebounding issues, which we had plenty of last season as we all know, but you have to give up something in the NBA and the zone helps reduce individual break downs, keeps pressure on the perimeter and at the rim, and if we battle we can minimize the impact of giving up offensive rebounds.

    2) Why not man-to-man or switch everything? In short because we lack the horses to run that race. DLo, Reaves, Rui and even LeBron at this point are fairly one-dimensional and all of them have pretty glaring weaknesses on D. DLo simply underwhelms, feels like he could be decent/average but the short version is he is who he is. Reaves can get bullied off his man, Rui is game but lacks the instincts and awareness to maximize his side and speed like the elite two way SFs do. LBJ is old. Very old, he’s not going to put forth Olympic effort every game. So we need to get creative in how we deploy him in D to save him for offense. Man to man defense only will see all of the players above get abused in various situations and plays. Switch everything requires players we don’t have and chemistry I haven’t seen develop, yet. Vogel had a keen mind for defense and got Kuzma to buy in and had Caruso and Green as fail safes. This team has Vando, maybe Vincent and they’ve never played together. I’m not saying we won’t see any man or switching but I don’t think it should be our main defensive identity.

    3) Reducing three point efficiency has to be key. I don’t necessarily mind giving up a lot of 3 point shots, I do want to reduce 3 point makes. With so many guys being able to get shots off in the blink of an eye it feels sillier every season to say we’ll contain shooters. Contesting shots at a high level feels more realistic.  Since we’re not the tallest/fastest team we need to be better about defensive positioning and reacting, not having sub par defenders get abused off screen actions is another reason I favor a zone as our main go-to defense identity.

    4) AD featured. Going zone hells feature AD on defense and maybe helps him get a DPOY trophy. This is not really important but anything that highlights overall defensive performance w/AD in the middle of it all can’t be bad. If AD is in the convo for DPOY it means the defense isn’t awful on a basic level.

    5) Identifying our best 2 way lineups. This one is crucial because, based on reputation, we don’t have a ton of two way players. We’re probably going to lean on Vando and Vincent to ball hawk and pressure playmakers on the perimeter as well as being the first helpers. We’re going to have to hope guys like Hayes and Reaves can take a step forward and address individual concerns. Reaves could stand to add some muscle and work on his ability to use his length to disrupt the dribble. Hayes and AD could be a dominant defensive tandem, in theory, but Hayes needs to bit foul and be better at hedging and his recovery defense. There are other guys who can step into a bigger role if these 2 can’t rise to the challenge but for all concerned it would be best if they found another level. As it stands today I’d say my top defensive lineup would be Vincent, Vando, Rui, LeBron and AD. I’d love to see Hayes or Reaves supplant LeBron, though. We’re going to need a lot from The King on offense and it’s simply unrealistic to expect him to put forth high effort on both ends for 82 and be fresh for the playoffs.

     

    What are your thoughts on a 2-3 zone as a main identity, not the be all end all but the primary option, and your favorite defensive 5?

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    • Aloha Jamie, I may not be as concerned by the defense as a lot of folks. Although the center position does concern me. We were shredded when AD rested. The first part of the year we had one of the better defensive rankings in the league but we often found ourselves 10 to 14 points behind by the end of the first quarter. When we went with the offensive line up that stopped happening. I think that Vando and Gabe will be big for us if they can stay healthy. Last year we simply did not have guys to bring in when we really needed tough defense. I’m hoping that growth from some of our younger guys will help our defense. Last year Austin’s defense started to improve, towards the end of the year, hopefully that trend continues. Rui is actually a pretty good on ball defender. His problem was more about getting lost in his rotations and he found himself chasing the play at times. Fortunately that is something that is easier to correct than on ball ability. His defensive rating was 113.9 as a starter, while the teams rating was 118 over that stretch. I also have high hopes for Max. He did look very good at times on defense, he made young guy mistakes but NBA defense is the last to develop. Hopefully he will be more consistent. Woods defense was better than advertised when he played the 4. While the sample size was small the front line of LeBron. AD and Wood were plus 22 per 100 possession. Jackson isn’t bulky enough to bang but hopefully he can learn to use that athleticism to do a better job of protecting the rim. This team has a lot of fire power so if we can improve the defense some we can be dangerous. Still hoping we can find a banger at some point.

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    Personally, can only speak for myself, I’m more impressed with the fact that the US women hoopers are on the verge of a 60 game Olympic winning streak than at the comeback I saw today. That, my friends, is what dominance looks like.

    Let’s go ladies!!!!

    Just Gotta Say It

    Personally, can only speak for myself, I’m more impressed with the fact that the US women hoopers are on the verge of a 60 game Olympic winning streak than at the comeback I saw today. That, my friends, is what dominance looks like.

    Let’s go ladies!!!!

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    Which means basically for a year, or whenever draft day is next summer. No surprise here, Jazz brass (Trader Danny) never really “dangled” LM, they just never said he was off limits. If you play for a team with Ainge as the GM you should probably know, or gain the knowledge, that any player can be had…for the right over-prince.

    When that deal didn’t emerge this was the smartest path. Lock him up for 5 years, $238 mil and start building. After this season, depending on how he actually plays (and how much) it will be interesting to see what his market is. $40+ mil for a guy who hasn’t even taken a team to the playoffs is steep. Even LaVine has at least been the key player on playoff rosters. Yes, he’s technically an All-Star…once. So this should be interesting to see unfold.

    What doesn’t change is how far under the minimum salary floor the Jazz or that they need to sign at least 2 players in order to meet the minimum roster requirements. Still something brewing over there just hard to discern what it could be.

    Lauri Markkanen off the table for 6 months

    Which means basically for a year, or whenever draft day is next summer. No surprise here, Jazz brass (Trader Danny) never really “dangled” LM, they just never said he was off limits. If you play for a team with Ainge as the GM you should probably know, or gain the knowledge, that any player can be had…for the right over-prince.

    When that deal didn’t emerge this was the smartest path. Lock him up for 5 years, $238 mil and start building. After this season, depending on how he actually plays (and how much) it will be interesting to see what his market is. $40+ mil for a guy who hasn’t even taken a team to the playoffs is steep. Even LaVine has at least been the key player on playoff rosters. Yes, he’s technically an All-Star…once. So this should be interesting to see unfold.

    What doesn’t change is how far under the minimum salary floor the Jazz or that they need to sign at least 2 players in order to meet the minimum roster requirements. Still something brewing over there just hard to discern what it could be.

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    • Actually Jamie, they actually were allowed to add 24 mil to this years contract so the Jazz are now over the floor. They still need to add 3 players though.

      • GTK, thanks Michael!

        • I am left with bad feelings. The Lakers’ overall inactivity during the offseason raised my eyebrows initially, but then the painful sting took over. As a fan, I am worried that missed opportunities may come back to haunt the team in the 2024-25 season.
          I am fully invested in their performance, so the inaction worsened things for me. Let’s hope for a successful season ahead!

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    On our podcast over the weekend the topic of the salary floor came up. I nonchalantly asked the panel if anyone knew what the penalty for not meeting said floor was since I had no clue. LT confidently said, “they just pay the excess into a fund that goes to the league office.” which seemed kind of sensible enough and so I left it at that.

    The way my brain works has always been funny, even to me. I generally don’t stop and think about something, it’s more like a kitchen with 8 or 9 dishes in various stages of completion. Throughout the day my mind drifted back to LT’s answer, mainly because the more I thought about it the more it felt out of line with Adam Silver’s campaign to even out competitive balance. The penalties for over-spending felt extremely harsh when compared to “and if you don’t spend enough, just send us a check and we’ll throw ourselves a pizza party!”

    So today on my lunch break I did my own research and found that the answer provided to me was incorrect. The penalties for not meeting the NBA minimum salary floor are almost as extreme as pushing past the second apron. I don’t post this just to zing LT, that’s a semi-amusing side effect, at best. I post this because it affects a lot of what could happen in the next month or so. SO here it is, at long last, the not asked for at all rules on the NBA Minimum Salary Floor!!!!!

    -Beginning in 2024/25, a team whose salary is below the minimum floor at the start of the regular season won’t receive a share of the end-of-season luxury tax payouts. (last season it was just 50%, this is important because small market owners absolutely rely on this windfall to turn a profit)

    -A team whose salary is below the minimum floor at the start of the season will have a cap hold added to its salary in order to reach the minimum floor. For instance, a team with a $117,418,000 salary on opening night in 2023/24 would have a $5MM cap hold added to its salary to reach the $122,418,000 floor and would be unable to immediately access that $5MM of cap room. (For Utah that would be a whopping $21, 983, 000+ million dollar cap hold!)

    -A team that begins the season below the floor cannot reduce the shortfall amount it will owe at the end of the season by spending on player salaries during the season. For example, a team that starts the season $5MM below the floor would owe no less than $5MM at the end of the season. The shortfall amount that club owes could increase if its team salary dips further than $5MM below the floor by the end of the season.

    So not only would Utah owe nearly $22 mil in league payments they would be denied any payments from the luxury tax pool in addition to having a cap hold imposed on them throughout the season making it more difficult to swing a massive trade or sign someone who is waived. That is nothing to sneeze at folks. Especially for a small market team like the Jazz who aren’t selling out the arena, aren’t the benefactors of a mega local cable market and are one of the more fiscally responsible teams out there.

    Now it is possible they could take a one-season hit. After all, Ryan Smith’s net worth is 2.2 billion. It’s just hard for me to see a guy who knows how money works simply throw money away or sacrifice his GM’s team building flexibility.

    All of this is to say I expect the Jazz to be involved in some kind of deal where they absorb salary for the cost of a couple picks, maybe even a 1st rounder or 2 . The are plenty of (Zach LaVine) contracts out there that a team would be happy (Zach LaVine) to move (Zach) for a draft pick without taking back more than one (LaVine) player (Zach LaVine). Maybe Zach LaVine…? They can send out my man Jordan Clarkson and balance out the roster and sign some decent talent from the Olympics. It’d be great to see Wenyan get back into the NBA or something like that.

    NBA Minimum Salary Floor

    On our podcast over the weekend the topic of the salary floor came up. I nonchalantly asked the panel if anyone knew what the penalty for not meeting said floor was since I had no clue. LT confidently said, “they just pay the excess into a fund that goes to the league office.” which seemed kind of sensible enough and so I left it at that.

    The way my brain works has always been funny, even to me. I generally don’t stop and think about something, it’s more like a kitchen with 8 or 9 dishes in various stages of completion. Throughout the day my mind drifted back to LT’s answer, mainly because the more I thought about it the more it felt out of line with Adam Silver’s campaign to even out competitive balance. The penalties for over-spending felt extremely harsh when compared to “and if you don’t spend enough, just send us a check and we’ll throw ourselves a pizza party!”

    So today on my lunch break I did my own research and found that the answer provided to me was incorrect. The penalties for not meeting the NBA minimum salary floor are almost as extreme as pushing past the second apron. I don’t post this just to zing LT, that’s a semi-amusing side effect, at best. I post this because it affects a lot of what could happen in the next month or so. SO here it is, at long last, the not asked for at all rules on the NBA Minimum Salary Floor!!!!!

    -Beginning in 2024/25, a team whose salary is below the minimum floor at the start of the regular season won’t receive a share of the end-of-season luxury tax payouts. (last season it was just 50%, this is important because small market owners absolutely rely on this windfall to turn a profit)

    -A team whose salary is below the minimum floor at the start of the season will have a cap hold added to its salary in order to reach the minimum floor. For instance, a team with a $117,418,000 salary on opening night in 2023/24 would have a $5MM cap hold added to its salary to reach the $122,418,000 floor and would be unable to immediately access that $5MM of cap room. (For Utah that would be a whopping $21, 983, 000+ million dollar cap hold!)

    -A team that begins the season below the floor cannot reduce the shortfall amount it will owe at the end of the season by spending on player salaries during the season. For example, a team that starts the season $5MM below the floor would owe no less than $5MM at the end of the season. The shortfall amount that club owes could increase if its team salary dips further than $5MM below the floor by the end of the season.

    So not only would Utah owe nearly $22 mil in league payments they would be denied any payments from the luxury tax pool in addition to having a cap hold imposed on them throughout the season making it more difficult to swing a massive trade or sign someone who is waived. That is nothing to sneeze at folks. Especially for a small market team like the Jazz who aren’t selling out the arena, aren’t the benefactors of a mega local cable market and are one of the more fiscally responsible teams out there.

    Now it is possible they could take a one-season hit. After all, Ryan Smith’s net worth is 2.2 billion. It’s just hard for me to see a guy who knows how money works simply throw money away or sacrifice his GM’s team building flexibility.

    All of this is to say I expect the Jazz to be involved in some kind of deal where they absorb salary for the cost of a couple picks, maybe even a 1st rounder or 2 . The are plenty of (Zach LaVine) contracts out there that a team would be happy (Zach LaVine) to move (Zach) for a draft pick without taking back more than one (LaVine) player (Zach LaVine). Maybe Zach LaVine…? They can send out my man Jordan Clarkson and balance out the roster and sign some decent talent from the Olympics. It’d be great to see Wenyan get back into the NBA or something like that.

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    Well, at least we didn’t lose Cam Reddish! Rob has been utterly out GM’d this summer by the entire Association. Putting a lotta eggs in the “better health/no regression” baskets. We’ll see how that works out. Seems like getting Tyus for the cost of moving Cam via a 2nd rounder would have been worth it given our seeming intent to trade DLo and Vincent’s health concerns coupled with Reaves being only decent at running the point. But what do I know?

    Suns Got Jones for the vet min...WTF

    Well, at least we didn’t lose Cam Reddish! Rob has been utterly out GM’d this summer by the entire Association. Putting a lotta eggs in the “better health/no regression” baskets. We’ll see how that works out. Seems like getting Tyus for the cost of moving Cam via a 2nd rounder would have been worth it given our seeming intent to trade DLo and Vincent’s health concerns coupled with Reaves being only decent at running the point. But what do I know?

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    • There’s a point where Jeanie has to see Rob Pelinka has to go. The indecision and lack of confidence has paralyzed our front office.

      • I’m going to give Robb a pass. I’m sure he tried to move some guys. But this is a brave new NBA world. The Nuggets had to send 3 2nd round picks for the Hornets to take Reggie Jackson. The Lakers only have 4 2nd round picks. The few sellers are trying to cash in with over pricing players, knowing there isn’t much inventory out there. I have been critical of Robb for years but I don’t see this as his fault.

        • I’m assuming brave is in the sarcasm font? Not disagreeing but the fact is Max Christie’s market was not sooooo scorching he needed to be the first move. Speaking of Max I can think of 3 players off the top of my head who I’d have used the MLE his deal would have opened up. Jones, Trent Jr. or Drummond. I’d have even preferred keeping Dinwiddie. But we had to rectify Rob’s mistake of only signing him to a 2 year rookie deal. Feel free to be critical, he’s earned it.

          • Remember Jamie Robb could only sign him for 2 years without giving him MLE money. Thats changed now and it’s act called the Pelinka rule.

            • Well that tracks, he basically was our MLE this summer.

            • All I’m saying is we dictated Max’s value, not the market. This in turn forced us into begging at the ATM of LeBeon to take massive pay cut to engage the TPMLE since I honestly never bought into him taking a $20+ mil cut. Based on the market for proven commodities like Jones and Trent Jr. it’s real hard for me to see Max getting what he got on the open market. I’d take the MLE over Max. He could be a good player but he has a lot of growth to do to live up that deal based on our actual roster needs. He’s the 4th…maybe 5th…guard in the rotation behind DLo, Reaves, Vincent and maybe even DK. I’m just not seeing the logic.

              I called running back a couple months ago and nothing has changed that opinion but that doesn’t mean I won’t be astounded by illogic as I have been thus far. All I can come up with is that FO planned for or more of Wood. Hayes, and Cam to walk. That’s a bad plan when they’re your margin for error.

    • Well, the “well” can’t be drier than this. Just about every player I had in my mind is gone. Nothing for me to be excited about this off-season.

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