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    Color me astounded if Trezz opts in...

    If he opts in it means nobody wants a 15-20 ppg threat off the bench who plays with heart and energy. Nah, nobody wants that in the NBA… Feels extremely likely that he was who ‘Kieff was talking about in his exit interview and this is Trezz (not so) subtly firing back.

    Sorry DJ, feels like he’s on his way out.

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    • Harrell has a beef, BTW. This is where I definitely agree with LakerTom in regards to the Drummond arrival mucking up rotations and forcing Frank to re-work everything 3/4 of the way in. Harrell also was never up to the task defensively but that wasn’t news when we signed him, Frank and Co. rarely found a good way to utilize the former 6MotY and that’s on them as much as it’s on him. The dude is a talent, just needs the right situation. I highly doubt he’ll find it in LA.

      Drummond may be the better player, in theory, but the waves his signing caused tipped the little boat that was our season. So, if he does come back, tan we better see some genius-level rotations with him, AD and LBJ on the floor. Otherwise this will be a ridiculous farce. Trezz had the benefit of a whole camp and season, was healthy and look what that got him?

    • I don’t think there’s much need to worry either way.

      • He got dissed again he’s not returning good on him

      • It does create issues in terms of being able to bring back impact talent given the cap space and tools we’ll have available. Hard to find instant impact guys off the bench like Harrell, whatever his ancillary issues may be. Not saying he was a perfect fit (obviously was not) but anyone who opts out is taking a low cost player away from a team that won’t be able to add many more given the cap constraints we’ll face.

        It’s one reason we may hold onto Alonzo.

    • Myles Turner with Trezz backup.

    • Ya, but with him benched we did win and move to second round though! Drum and Gasol dominated!

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    Anyone else find it a little odd that Kidd instantly withdrew from the Blazers coaching search?

    Interesting…

    Too good to be true.

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    Alex ready to run it back

    https://twitter.com/LakersSBN/status/1400965291446779907

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    • Jamie, link goes nowhere and I can’t find article to fix. Please check posts after making them to make sure they work. Thanks.

    • Yeah, sorry. Posting from my phone is always wonkier. Give me a hot minute

      • Done, with the Silver Screen and Roll link added, as well.

        Not sure how to embed the link like y’all do, always get an error message…

        • The problem is you should have a Twitter account. Then you can click the Twitter icon on any article and create a Tweet linked to the article.

          Since you don’t have a Twitter account, you need to find a Tweet. So copy the title of the article, go to Twitter, and search for a Tweet. When you find the Tweet, click on the time or date stamp to go to that Tweet. Then copy and paste the URL for the Tweet into the blog, add a title, and then click Post.

    • Better be stinking cheap AC!

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    5 Things: Sun sets on Lakers' season

    The end has, mercifully, arrived. What started out as hope-filled title defense ended as a broken, beat up wheezing struggle to cross the finish line. The final 2 games of this season aren’t really great indicators of what is to come as the roster will quite likely have a very different look come training camp. Rather than critique the game, which was not a fun one in all honesty, I’d rather take a look back at the 5 key things that, in my opinion, led to this sour season. Above all, to echo magicman’s post of thanks I would also like to express my gratitude to all of you for being a part of the blog, Gerald for his open invite to his wonderful podcasts and especially to LakerTom for keeping the spirit and vibe of that old timey LAT Laker Blog alive and well.

    1. The Dwight Howard debacle. I felt that, when we let Dwight walk (or as LakerTom likes to say we “dumped” him…), that it was a mistake. Howard had sacrificed a lot for the team last season, had put his sizable pride to the side and was a key contributor to the new banner up on the wall. His ability to defend out to the perimeter, effect shots at the rim and as a premier lob threat out of the pick and roll were all tools we missed all season long. In the playoffs Howard would have fared better against Ayton than either Gasol Drummond or Trezz were able to muster. Athletic, mobile big men at his size are rare in a league that now wants a center like that who can also shoot the three. That list is a short one and most of those guys aren’t as mobile and fleet of foot as Dwight is. Lastly, had Dwight been on the roster, it would have likely taken us out of the Drummond sweepstakes and kept whatever chemistry we had going at that point in a more stable place.
    2. The Schroeder saga. It would be hard to find an article or an opinion that ran contrary to the opinion that when we signed Dennis Schroeder it was a Laker coup. In theory we had found a defensive, gritty, able-enough scorer to play alongside AD and LeBron and not need too high of a usage rate. Over the course of the season that narrative didn’t stand up. When healthy and the three point shots were falling for the team we had a great record with Dennis and LeBron in the line up. When the King went down, so did Schroeder for all intents and purposes. Add in his very public contract negotiations (that ultimately went nowhere), his two extended stints in the league health and safety protocols due to COVID-19 exposure or contraction (not sure if we ever heard one way or the other) and his extreme variation in playoff performances has led to a fan falling out with the mercurial PG from Germany. He may be back and he may not but if he returns we need to discover a way to keep Dennis more consistent.
    3. The injuries. So many injuries. Much has been made of the injury issues this season after the quick turnaround and I don’t think there’s another team besides the Miami Heat that has suffered so many injuries to key players up and down the roster. Whether it was KCP’s ankle sprain he suffered early on that seemed to linger all season, Caruso’s calf, ankle and groin, Anthony Davis and his death by 1,00 bumps and bruises or LeBron getting rolled by Solomon Hill we just never caught a break injury wise after the first few weeks of the season. I was surprised to see Davis on the court and felt it was a bad idea. The last thing we wanted was for him to suffer a Durant-like setback. Better that he get himself right as rain for next season. To that end I’m actually glad the playoffs are over for us, no more reasons to gut it out or make a bad choice in terms of our player’s health.
    4. Our vanishing three point shooting. We started off so hot that it almost seemed impossible to believe. Well, it was. If one is honest with one’s self there is no way that Alex Caruso is a 40+ percent three point marksman. I think he tops out between 35-40%, at best. Same for KCP although he could crack 40% if his focus was more consistent, I believe. Guys we brought in who had decent stats from the previous season like Schroeder and Wes Matthews were wholly incapable of replicating that success on this team. Whether it was the pressure of a title defense, playing for the Lakers or a reflection of who they truly are as shooters the point is a moot one. They couldn’t sustain the hot start from beyond the arc and the defensive schemes of he NBA adapted to tat reality very quickly by clogging the paint and making life harder and harder for our offense. Which was not elite to begin with unless James and Davis are on the floor, healthy and producing at elite levels.
    5. Speaking of coach Vogel. What a difference a season makes. We again had a top notch defense but what had been an above average offense last season with playoff vets like Danny Green, Rajon Rondo and JaVight McHoward was unable to find it’s strong points this season. A lot of this is on our coach who seems to over-rely on the skill, talent and will of LeBron James and Anthony Davis to score points. That works when they are healthy and productive but it doesn’t when they’re not on the floor as was the case for huge chunk of the season. As The King ages I think we’ll see a lot more of the version of LeBron we saw in the playoffs: fewer drives, more threes and a slow yet steady relinquishing of the reigns to players like Schroeder, THT and even Alex Caruso to initiate the offense. We’re going to need Frank to bring more to the table, should he remain the head coach (as I expect him to be with one more season on his contract and a banner he helped hang in the rafters), if that’s the case. Perhaps, if one of the many coaches who could be fired this season becomes available, we can bring in somebody with more offensive chops than Vogel has it might help.

    There will be plenty of time for grades, trades and things of that nature as summer rolls in. For now, looking back on this season, I just want to express how much this has helped me personally move through the pandemic. Chatting Lakers has always been a passion and this blog has helped me stay as sane as I ever was (agreed, not much). So thank you, Lakerholics and fellow blog contributors. This is but a bump in the road for one of the great sport franchises on planet Earth. We’re going to reload and get rocking soon. So let’s hope for good health, some luck in the draft and we’ll see you on down the line.

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    • Bummer the last fiver has to be a loss. We still got last season’s to read over. Which I did. 😃😃😃😃

    • Good season recap, Jamie. Agree with most of what you said but, as usual, we differ on some. Thanks for putting this together. Sorry for the late response. Benn on the road all week on business.

      1. Dwight Howard. First, the reason Dwight was ‘dumped’ was because he could not defend out to the perimeter. Your claiming he could “defend out to the perimeter” simple showed your bias in favor of keeping him. The harsh reality is the Lakers had tired of Dwight and felt it was time to move on. I do agree the three centers they chose to replace Howard did not solve the rim protection or vertical threat benefits of keeping him but I also think it was telling when Dwight mistakenly ‘accepted an offer to return’ and the Lakers opted to respond by saying they had not made an offer. I think there were non-basketball reasons for dumping Dwight.

      2. Dennis Schroder. We’re pretty much in agreement that the trade looked great at first but then the poor 3-point shooting, excessive turnovers, and demand for more money than he was worth kind of poisoned the situation. I’m hoping the Lakers can find a team to do a sign-and-trade for Schroder. A sign-and-trade would expand the possible buyers for Dennis to include teams without the cap space. I think it would be a serious mistake to overpay to keep him. Better to S&T him or let him walk.

      3. Injuries. No doubt the short offseason and condensed regular season was not good for the Lakers. In the end, it was what killed any chance we had to repeat. I worry we may have overestimated how good we were as a team because of the bubble championship. LeBron and AD had four and a half months to get fully healthy and then had their best ever playoff performances as 3-point shooters. Truth could be 36-year old LeBron and injury prone Anthony plus our ‘elite’ role players benefited from the bubble. For sure, our role players, especially the non-superstar starters, were grossly overrated due to the bubble, which impacted this season.

      4. 3-Point shooting. The need to improve our 3-point shooting was probably the single biggest roster error made as a result of overconfidence on our shooters after the bubble. Once we got to the playoffs with fans in the stands, that’s a new ball game and our shooters were simply not up to the task. Turning to Drummond only exacerbated the situation and made it easier for teams to clog the paint and live with our terrible 3-point shooting. It’s the curse of Byron Scott, the Lakers’ refusal under Pelinka and Vogel to embrace the value of the 3-point shot. We need a high volume, high percentage shooting guard to replace KCP. We need a point guard who is a 3-point threat. We need a stretch five center who can pull the Goberts and Embiids out of the paint.

      5. Frank Vogel. I would focus on Rob Pelinka here. I think the refusal to include THT in the Lowry trade was a monumental mistake. Imagine heading into the offseason with a Superstar Big Three of LeBron, AD, and Lowry under contract and Schroder, KCP, and THT gone. Lakers would have their third star and an elite veteran point guard to carry the load for LeBron and hopefully beat the Nets to win their 18th championship. Instead, we’re going to lose Schroder for nothing, THT will still be a year of two away from being a starter, and KCP will struggle for the third straight year to score more than 10 points per game, which will make him almost untradeable unless you add a sweetener like a pick or THT.

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    Why AD gave it a go is a mystery, commend him for his heart, though.

    Yikes

    Why AD gave it a go is a mystery, commend him for his heart, though.

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    2 players (jordan, Baylor) have scored 60+ points in an NBA playoff game. Jordan holds the top spot with 63, Baylor at 61. The King may need to join the 60+ point club for us to win tonight. He needs to get to the line, make his threes and be a force all game long. Max money time.

    LeBron might need to join an exclusive club

    2 players (jordan, Baylor) have scored 60+ points in an NBA playoff game. Jordan holds the top spot with 63, Baylor at 61. The King may need to join the 60+ point club for us to win tonight. He needs to get to the line, make his threes and be a force all game long. Max money time.

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    • If his ankle were 💯this could be a legit convo even at age 36.

    • I haven’t seen anything from LBJ in this series to suggest that this is achievable…unless he gets super-hot from 3. He just hasn’t been able to go hard on that ankle for an entire game. Maybe he slept in the hyperbaric chamber or the hot tub time machine or sum shit…🤦🏽

      • I think he’d need all of the above and also to find a leprechaun on his way to the arena. I just don’t know who else is going to put up numbers tonight, AD or no.

        After AD (40.3% which tells you everything you need to know about how he’s really feeling out there) and LeBron (48.9% we have 3 other guys shooting over 40%:|
        Trezz at 70%, barely plays
        Marc Gasol 66.7%…mostly on threes which is kind of ridiculous
        Drummond 59.4%,

        Schroeder is close at 39.3% and it really falls off after Caruso at 37.1%. I know we’re a defense-first team but these are pros. They need to can open shots, wherever they are. Lotta guys wilting, coaching staff relying on sound bites and not schemes and the Suns just look ready to win. We don’t.

        But, yeah, King isn’t scoring 60 tonight or if he does it’ll be a Mamba Miracle.

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    Man, as bad as it looks at least it ain’t as bad as what the Celtics are about to do. Danny “retiring” so as to save face and not be straight up fired, Bard Stevens taking over because he has a ton of experience running a team and then he’ll find his coaching successor. Wonderful solution. Think we could trade KCP for Marcus Smart straight up?

    Celtics are a dumpster fire yo

    Man, as bad as it looks at least it ain’t as bad as what the Celtics are about to do. Danny “retiring” so as to save face and not be straight up fired, Bard Stevens taking over because he has a ton of experience running a team and then he’ll find his coaching successor. Wonderful solution. Think we could trade KCP for Marcus Smart straight up?

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    5 Things: Lakers no-show Game 5, down 3-2.

    Words like pathetic, half-hearted and sad came to mind whilst watching last night’s one-sided affair. To put it simply: Phoenix kicked our collective ass but good and the Lakers are on the brink of seeing their title defense end in the first round, something a LeBron James-led playoff team has never had happen (losing in the 1st round, that is). While I believe the Lakers do have the pieces to win game 6 and swing momentum back our way it’s going to take a sea change for that to happen.

    1. Dennis Schroeder and a bucket full of regret. That $22+ million dollar contract Schroeder had hoped to play into is dwindling by the playoff game. I have consistently been of the opinion that Schroeder is not worth that much, that he would have been smart to take the 20+ million dollar deal the Lakers offered him. I am now of the opinion that the Lakers need to simply move on. If we can move him without triggering the hard cap than great. Schroeder set Laker records for futility in game 5 by going 0-9 (joining him in donut land was KCP as the starting back court put up a big fat z-e-r-o in terms of points). In my opinion the Lakers are sunk if Schroeder plays this poorly and he plays this poorly pretty frequently. Dennis still has control of his narrative for the season but it’s quickly slipping from his grasp. If he flames out in game 6 like he did last night he’ll be on the MLE train with Trezz and Caruso this summer.
    2. Bench KCP. LRob said it on the podcast and I agree 100%: KCP is hurt and shouldn’t be playing. He’s a liability on defense, not shooting open shots and basically sucking it up all over the place. In 15 minutes KCP was a -19 meaning we sieved more than a point per minute he was on the court. Start Wes, start Ben, start Alex, start THT…anyone else. He got his money from last season’s heroics, looked good for about a month and a half and then fell off a cliff for the rest of the season. If it’s injuries than sit and admit. If it’s personal issues, go home and handle. If you’re blowing it then by Loki’s moustache step it up, man. This team cannot win when the starting back court puts up Chuck Nevitt-level stats (actually, that’s not even fair to Chuck, he always averaged at least 1/2 point in all of his NBA seasons). If you’re not going to score, defend or grease the offense than sit the *&%$ down and like it.
    3. Frank’s rotation madness continues. I just don’t get it. Morris started but played a whopping 10 minutes and even was one of the Lakers not named LeBron James that made a three. He never saw the floor again. THT played for the first time in a couple games because…who knows, maybe Frank is doing rotations by tea leaves at this point? My point is that, even with the injuries, the head coach has not been able to cobble together rotations that can defend and score at the same time. Not a starting five, not a bench…nothing. Coach Vogel went with Gasol and Caruso to start the second half and it accomplished nothing as we were already down 30 plus points, Phoenix was already rolling and the arena was rocking. Coach has pulled a total 180 from last season when he pushed the right button at the right time every single time. This season, not so much. He hasn’t done himself any favors by being so incredibly inconsistent with his playing time for mercurial players like Harrell and Morris, an on then off again role for Wes and McLemore garnering DNP then thrust into a huge role. I get the credo: always be ready but sometimes you can’t be ready for literally any and everything. Frank could have done himself a lot more favors in this series if he had a grip on what the team was capable of, feels like he’s over-estimated that at every turn.
    4. Drummond doing what he can. It’s not really fair to dump as much as we do on Andre’ as he is doing his level-best. It’s just that his skill set is fairly one-dimensional and our problems are coming at us from all directions. Drummond was actually one of our most effective starters but is getting severely out-played due to the pick and roll doomsday machine they’ve built around CP3 and Booker. With Ayton at the eye of the hurricane it puts Drummond in the impossible (at least for him) situation of either coming out to guard a shooter (who either shoots over the late close or blows by the over played close with elite speed) or dumps it off to Ayton who often finds himself mismatched onto smaller guys and he is abusing them just like he should. That’s just one more situation when Monty is out-coaching Vogel. What we cannot continue to absorb from Drummond is the plethora of turnovers he continues to cough up with poor passing, bringing the ball down low for defenders to swipe at or when he loses his balance. Is he getting hit? Sure, of course. it’s the playoffs though and big men always have to absorb more contact in the NBA, that ain’t anything new. They put it perfectly on the TNT broadcast when they said that the NBA punishes strength and gives speed and quickness all the advantages. Drummond, like the rest of the team, needs to stop thinking and just play.
    5. Adjustments? Honestly, Frank started his adjustments way too late. In every game the Suns have come up with a new wrinkle to a thing they already do well that flummoxes our coaching staff. In game one it was using DA as a primary option when we were playing to stop Booker and CP3, last night it was switching the onus back to Booker and focusing on getting him going and, while I applaud the defensive effort of the Suns, the Lakers aren’t trying anything different or new to get certain players going. Frank seemingly leaves it up to the individual to figure out why the ball isn’t going into the basket and it’s not going into the basket for oh so very many Lakers right now. This goes well beyond poor shooting or a regression to the mean this goes into what kind of sets does it even look olike the Lakers run? I’ve been asking this question for 2 years running and am nowhere near an answer because the offense is player-driven. That’s great for LeBron James at his best, news flash Frank: he’s not at his best. Frank went with Caruso and Gasol in the starting five after the first half last night and he would be wise to start game 6 that way. We need offense and defense and Caruso is at least trying on D and seems more willing to shoot open shots than either KCP or Schroeder. Gasol can hit the three an should open the paint up a bit. We need energy which is why I’m mystified Trezz has played as sparingly as he has. Not a lot of daylight left to find a winning combo before the sun sets on our season, literally.

    I won’t get into off season stuff until the off season is officially here. Needless to say our prospects to easily improve the team are few and limited in scope. So best to win tomorrow and try to wrest control of our season, fellahs.

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    • Man, a really awesome fiver in what was the worst loss in this era…Beck ages like fine wine 🍷 great track!

      • Thanks man, it’s always easier for me to write the sad-face-fivers because there’s always a wealth of material to harp on. In this case I pretty much left out 1/3 of the roster who also sucked and didn’t overly harp on why THT is inexplicably not playing when we were so high on him not to include in the Lowry trade. SO many odd things going on and it’s not all injuries.

    • Jason Reed over at LakeShow Life wrote an article today that perfectly sums up my season-long issues with Schroeder: https://lakeshowlife.com/2021/06/02/los-angeles-lakers-move-dennis-schroder/

      • From the article, and it’s not even the best point made: “If his market has completely crashed and the Los Angeles Lakers can sign him for less than $10 million a year then I can deal with that. Anything more than that is an overpay, and yes, I know the team offered him $21 million per year. That was a mistake.

        Let’s not forget that this is the same player that was traded from the Atlanta Hawks for Carmelo Anthony just so Atlanta could dump salary and buy out Carmelo. The Hawks literally traded him to free up money. What should that tell you?”

        -Jason Reed

    • Great fiver and great analysis, Jamie. I just wish I could dispute some of that, but you lay bare the truth in all of the five things and there’s nothing here to dispute as depressing as it is.
      How bad and unpleasant it is for the Lakers not to show up for work.

      In a game where two of the starters had zero points and LeBron had zero free throws, it is clear that the whole team imploded, and that includes the coaches as well. While the Suns blew out the Lakers, I kept thinking the Suns are not as good as they looked. Instead, it is the Lakers who looked as bad as hell. Even a G-league team could beat the Lakers last night. This was simply the worst loss for the Lakers since the 39 point loss to the Celtics in game 6 of the 2008 finals. That Celtics team won the title in that game.

      That the Lakers could not find a way to contain Cameron Payne in this series is beyond me. He is single-handedly tearing the Lakers apart throughout the series and they have no idea how to stop him. That the team can’t make their open shots is even more mind-boggling. That the coaches can’t find a role for Trez and THT for instant offense falls squarely on the coaches.

      As demoralizing as this loss was, I am not giving up on the team until the fat Lady sings. Thanks for the superior analysis.

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    5 Things: Suns bring the heat and wilt the Lakers

    Afternoon games in STAPLES are always a modest affair. Los Angeleninos are already laid back and if they haven’t gotten in three mochacinos and lunch they can be a sleepy bunch. When the Lakers put in 2/3 to 1/4 of effort for an entire NBA playoff game they don’t get up for that. As a result the Lakers looked lifeless for most of the game, lost to the Suns, and allowed the series to get tied at two.

    1. Lakers didn’t show up with an aggressive attitude or looking to put their foot down on the Suns. Attitude is a weird thing. It ties into everything, manifests itself in results and can be a positive or negative. You can call it a mind set, focus, attitude-whatever you’d like In the Lakers’ case yesterday afternoon it wasn’t much if a positive. Even before the strained groin AD loomed tentative settling for jumpers, not really demanding the ball and fading into the background on offense. All sorts of guys passed up open looks or ran themselves off the three point line right into Phoenix’s defense and we were by far more involved with the refs (although both teams have been overly invested in calls so far). We need to knock off these kind of antics and play hard and forceful from here on out. Let Davis, James and Vogel get into with the refs. Get you head in the game.
    2. New NBA record!!! Frank Vogel set an NBA record in the game yesterday: quickest Coaches Challenge ever! 15 whole seconds into the game, one that had tremendous stakes and also happened to suck whatever excitement had built up pregame right out of STAPLES Center. Frank was extremely successful in his challenge savvy during the regular season. I thought this one was utterly wasted. Ended up there were several other moments throughout the course of the game that would have had more impact and also more likely for us to have won. I though Frank was off last night and he has his hands full with Monty Williams who also happens to be an excellent coach. Frank needs to be smarter with his challenges and time outs.
    3. Rotation experiment forced to continue. Injuries and exploited match ups forced Vogel to, once again, play too many guys in spot minute situations. Phoenix has a fairly tight and powerful 9 man rotation deployed, one they’ve used pretty much all season with contributions from others during the regular season. The Lakers? Our 11 man whack-a-doo rotation continues to show why this sort of thing isn’t a recipe for NBA playoff success. To be honest, a good part of this is being forced due to injury. But the 5 minutes of Trezz was a joke as was the 8 minutes of Morris. Pick one, you know what they bring and what they don’t. You either need outside scoring and defense or energy and inside scoring acumen. It’s not like they duplicate one another in any way. Same goes for McLemore. Don’t leave him out there on defense for long stretches, he’s going to get burned. If you need a sniper then put the sniper in and run a play. If you need Trezz then play him in his actual role. Morris has looked broken for months, not sure he has a role in the post season in all honesty. He’s off on defense missing a lot of rotations or being out of place as often as Drummond has been, isn’t even looking to shoot the three ball and is now missing his paint attempts. Not much positive to see from that whole situation right now. I had hoped the amped up energy of STAPLES and/or the playoffs would kick-start ‘Kieff but it hasn’t happened, yet.
    4. Bench still floundering. I don’t think starting Wes is the answer, not unless they’re going to try and get him going from three. I would rather start Kuzma or, if I’m being honest, Caruso. Start Booker and CP3 off going against our two best on-ball defenders in Schroeder and Alex, gum up the game from the get-go and let Wes feast on bench dudes with the second unit. Schroeder needs to attack the rim like he wants to score not like he wants to avoid contact and then fall down and get a whistle. That kind of chicanery doesn’t fly in the playoffs. You might get a whistle a time or two in this or that series but it’s not a recipe for wins. If we stick with Wes, or if KCP comes back and is something resembling effective (which he has not been) then fine but make Wes a scoring option and force the Phoenix defenders to account for him honestly with some more attempts.
    5. The Drummond/Gasol debate. The time, I believe, has come. It’s obvious that Dre’ is struggling with Ayton’s ability to defend him straight up and he gets swarmed in the paint by Phoenix when he gets the ball. The Laker offense is plodding along right now, and this is not a knock on Drummond, by the way. AD gets the ball and starts writing his memoire before making a move. James is, again, milking the shot clock for on-court rest and in general we don’t hit guys in stride or on the move with our passing. Credit the Suns but also critique the Lakers for not adjusting and finding ways to shake loose for some easy scores. Having Gasol at the top of the key helps that as it at least pulls Ayton out to the free throw line and opens up the possibility for some back door cuts (I watched Caruso try to get into that action three separate times and the man with ball, twice Gasol, missed him every time). The action is a solid plan whether the backdoor cut works or not. You have to get the defenders off their toes and onto their heels. We’re not even trying to do that right now, just passing around the perimeter waiting for someone to drive the ball into the teeth of the D.

    Last night should be concerning for Laker fans, it wasn’t like Phoenix ran us off the court we just don’t make poorly created shots. That’s not new, this has been an issue all season for us. When we stagnate on offense we lose. Our defense was fine, Phoenix got 100 for the first time in the series, but we need to cut the turnovers (15…again…why this didn’t concern more people earlier in the season has always been a mystery to me but we are who we are now…), play smarter and go harder to the rim. if you miss and they don’t call the foul because of contact, so be it but take a man down with you. Time to see who has some junk yard dog in them and who is ready for vacation because the season has just been too hard. Man up or go home.

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    • Thanks, Jamie. I miss the game but I did watch the replay. I completely agree with your take on the game. There is not much for me to add here. You hit the nail on the head. Great fiver.

    • Well, that was a complete buzz kill to watch when I got home Sunday night. Suddenly, the Lakers look like the Clippers and the Clippers look like the Lakers. Unless AD recovers quickly, the Lakers are going to suffer a first round flame out with serious implications of a dramatic rework this offseason.

      1. Suns obviously wanted this more than the Lakers. Even before Davis’ injury, the Lakers were struggling to hit shots and play defense. Deandre Ayton has been what the Lakers had hoped Andre Drummond would be. Drum has averaged 5.5 points in the last two games as Ayton had ate him for lunch and dinner. Watching Lakers fall to CP3 Suns leaves a terrible bad taste in my mouth.

      2. Frank’s coaching decisions have been very questionable. Gasol should start game 5 and Drummond should play against Suns backup center. I’m starting to think the second worst decision the Lakers made was to sign Andre Drummond. It has created nothing but chemistry and strategic problems for the Lakers. I have to feel that the team’s chemistry has suffered as a result. For sure, the rotations have been chaotic. Problem is you cannot trust Dre on offense or defense. Just too lackadaisical.

      3. It’s almost like the Lakers have too many players with major flaws that prevent the coach from narrowing the rotation. Unlike last year, we don’t have the luxury of avoiding the tougher teams and being able to make adjustments after giving up a game. If we lose tomorrow, we will be facing an elimination game on Thursday, an elimination game that losing would mean a first round flame out. Imagine the Clippers fans delight at the Lakers fate. Maybe Vogel needs to make a major change. We’re not going to win anything with Drummond at the five.

      4. Bench sucks. Everybody on it has flaws. Caruso is a terrible passer. 4 turnovers and several more than we were just lucky bounced our way. A coach who has no clue. Players who cannot contribute two good games in a row. Time this offseason to tear the entire team apart and find a third superstar. This team only won because last year because of the bubble and good health. Lakers about to be rudely exposed.

      5. Gasol for sure. Adding Drummond was just a pipe dream that’s caused chaos and indecision on the team. He doesn’t have the talent or smarts to impact big games. Adding him was a major mistake by the front office and coaching staff.

      Frankly, I’ve lost faith that Frank can make the moves to win this series. Our superstars are being outplayed and our role players are crap. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Suns win the series in 6 games.

    • Great fiver, Jamie. Loved the musical accompaniment!!

    • Good fiver Jamie. Probably need 1 “10 things” for this game.

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    5 Things: Lakers frustrate floundering Suns, up 2-1

    The Lakers look more and more like themselves with each passing game. After halftime last night the one thing Laker fans had been yearning to see showed itself: LeBron James was driving to the run, again. Between an aggressive LeBron, a dominant Anthony Davis, and a slew of timely contributions from the team the Lakers over-powered the Suns in the second half for a solid win. Not to be overlooked, the Suns didn’t seem to respond well to the intensity of playoff basketball. The funny thing about that is neither one was Chris Paul.

    1. LeBron James flipping the switch. Up until halftime last night James had undertaken a total of 2 drives to the hoop. He changed that in a big way in the second half and it completely altered the tenor of the series. The Suns didn’t have a defender that could contain LeBron although they spotted Jae Crowder into him. It always cracks me up when a player tries to out-intense LeBron. Crowder’s goofball defense with his hyper aggressive bodying up on dead balls and constant yapping at the officials reminded me of other clown defenders like Matt Barnes and Ruben Patterson. Guys who try to play more defense with their mouths and antics than their brains or feet. For talents like LeBron it doesn’t matter. He’s too good and too skilled for antic D, you need to suck it up and stop whining. James is back and the league should be worried.
    2. Anthony Davis dominating. The Suns have no answer for Davis when he chooses to play with power and ferocity. He made that choice last night and Phoenix looked futile in their efforts to slow him down. Fewer fadeaway, improved focus on defense and one highlight block showcased everything we know AD can bring. He had his way with anyone they slotted onto him scoring efficiently, getting to the line and grabbing 11 boards. That’s the AD we’ve been waiting fir all year.
    3. Schroeder showcasing his feistiness. Schroeder has an odd role in our team, even as the starting PG he’s our secondary ball handler and playmaker and our third option on offense. Despite all the time missed and this being his first playoffs with James and Davis Dennis is starting to impress. He scored inside, took his open three pointers and got under the Suns’ skin to the point he generates a flagrant 2 foul on a Devin Booker sharp shot. Not much more you ask if the guy as he also played stellar defense. After Book’s uncalled for fF2 Schroeder showed he was good to go by getting his mod-game workout in with Caruso spotting him on 15 or so push ups. The man has a motor that’s much is certain.
    4. Chirpy basketball will never get it done. You can tell when a team has begun to realize the scope and breadth of the issues they have in their hands when they look to the refs, chirp and quack all game, and roll out the cheap shots and tough-guy antics. When have you ever seen Caruso, a solid defender and unheralded player, get so into with the refs he gets a tech? Once, twice maybe? Or deliver a shot so cheap it earned him a F2? I don’t think ever. Booker’s mid-air shove of Dennis a Schroeder is one of those plays that has no place in the sport. That’s not competing that’s weak as %#@&. Booker is, or should be, better than that. While nobody likes losing you have to remember that, like it or not, you are a role model for kids as a pro athlete. Crowder getting tossed was inconsequential, nobody ever misses the court jester when he goes to take a nap, but I was really disappointed in Booker’s actions to end the game as I am a big fan and admire the work put in and journey he’s on.
    5. Kuzma’s vanishing jump shot. Kyle starting off these playoffs rough, man. Another brick fest from Kyle was east to overlook as we won handily but, at some point, we’re going to need more from Kuz. The bench in general hasn’t scored well in the series but has done a solid job on defense and rebounding, which is great. Hope Kuzma isn’t dealing with some kind of injury since I assume we may be without KCP on Sunday and he could be pressed into starting.

    Honorable mention go to Wes, Dre’ and all the guys who saw the court because our second half D was top-notch which is a team effort. We’ll need more of that going forward.

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    • The team is finally looking like the one with huge arsenal of veteran players that won it all last season.

      AD and LeBron’s one two punches in the third quarter were very devastating. Almost felt like a B-52 bomber carpet bombing the hell out of the enemy. Add in a steady dose of Dennis the menace with good contributions from the role players defensively then you have an enemy that is overpowered.

      The only negative from the game is those silly turnovers committed in the fourth quarter. I thought I would have a heart attack when they were turning the ball over at that rate.

      I am pleading with the Lakers to please leave those turnovers at practice and not in real playoff games. It hurts to see them giving away those precious possessions to the opponent for free. Most of these turnovers were unforced.

      They were trending in the right direction recently in terms of turnovers, but it seems they are resorting back to that same old habit. Anyway, that was a good game and thanks for the post, Jamie.

      • 20 turnovers including 7 from LeBron, many totally unforced. The good news is we shot horrible from deep, turned the ball over 20 times, missed two dunks from LeBron and AD, and yet, still won the game by 14 points. Like last year, Lakers expose teams as being inferior the more the series progresses. Lakers in 5.

        • Good points, Tom. There was some solace in getting the win despite those miscues. Man, those two missed dunks by AD and LeBron could paralyze an opponent waist down if they went in.

    • Good fiver as usual, Jamie. And yes, Lakers are starting to look like the Lakers.

      1. Aways great to see LeBron still has a switch and knows exactly when to flip it. No settle threes in the third quarter. Instead, it was LeBron going downhill and attacking the rim relentlessly. Answered any questions about whether he can still do it. That ankle is obviously not 100% but that’s not going to stop LBJ.

      2. AD dominating. Yes, this is going to be the year when he takes the baton from LeBron and wins his first NBA Finals MVP award. AD to average a 30+ point double double for these playoffs. If Lakers win it all, AD will cement his place as the Lakers next great and heir to LeBron James in purple and gold.

      3. Dennis has his warts but he is no shrinking violet and if we can create enough space to empower him to attack the rim, he’s a championship weapon. My guess is he goes for more money and a bigger role than what the Lakers can provide. Lakers more likely to add a player like DRose for less at the point next year. Give Dennis credit for not being afraid to be a player.

      4. League needs to change the rules to eliminate plays that are not basketball plays, like the cheap shot by Booker. Looks like CP3 IS mentoring him. League needs to eliminte those intentional fouls to prevent fast breaks. Intentional fouls should always be 2 shots and the ball. Good call by the refs on Booker as he could have caused a major injury to Dennis. Still don’t understand how Draymond’s two hands to the face was not a flagrant. League needs to clean that rule up.

      5. Kuzma had best plus/minus on team, scored 8 points and made two of the teams seven threes. He and West played great defense, hit timely threes, and weren’t afraid to shoot. Kuz had third most shot attempts on Lakers. Glad he had the courage to continue to shoot. He and Wes were unsung heroes.

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    5 Things: Lakers Stymie Suns to tie series at 1-1

    Maybe that could slowly help shrink the racial gap culturally. Slow and steady wins the race. Tortoise beats the hare everytime.

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    • What was interesting about this game was that it was a 93-92 Lakers lead with 3:40 left when Marc Gasol passed a wide open three and the Lakers got a 24-second violation turnover.

      Frank then removed Gasol and went big with AD at the five. What happened next is a 7-0 run where AD at the five shut down the next three Suns possessions with an AD block, Booker miss on challenged 15 footer, and Payne turnover strip off knee.

      Meanwhile, LeBron sunk a 1-foot fadeaway, AD splashed a dagger three, and then AD sank a pair of free-throws and Lakers turned 1-point lead into insurmountable 8-point lead in 1:40 minutes and just 2 minutes left in game.

      It’s apparent from Vogel’s moves that the Lakers want to minimize AD minutes at the 5 even though that was the key to winning the championship last season. The big question is will AD playing fewer minutes at the 5 continue to be the plan. Right now, that looks to be the game plan. We’ll see if that changes.

      Bottom line, AD at the 5 defense and LeBron and AD from deep is how the Lakers won this game.

    • Great win. Good to see the turnovers trimming down a little bit. I like the idea of keeping AD fresh at the end of the game. That’s why your take on the centers was on point. The bench needs to fix whatever is ailing them, and Schroeder needs to continue to be on the attack more without the turnovers. Great post as always, Jamie.

    • Excellent fiver Jamie. I’ll echo you and Buba that limiting the turnovers was very impressive. Lakers will be extremely tough to beat when they commit only 7 turnovers.

      Agree LT that AD as the closer really unleashed the Lakers defense. That’s a good use of him at the 5 vs. Phoenix…closing the half and the game if necessary. I do believe at some point he’ll need to play more minutes at the five, but hopefully we can save that for down the road to keep him fresh as possible.

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    Big target, easy target, but it's the wrong target

    It’s easy to single out Drummond: biggest dude, not a modern player, didn’t have a great game 1. That all may be true on literally every game we play with him on the roster. Andre’ Drummond is not, I repeat, not the reason the Lakers lost game 1. We’ve all said it since they joined forces: we go as far as AD and LeBron take us.

    https://deadspin.com/smacked-in-the-mouth-lebron-and-ad-now-need-to-find-1846967317

    The link to the article above is where I feel the issue truly lies. When Davis and LeBron play pedestrian, we lose. In fact, they may have to find another gear of their own to get out of the western conference this season. Both are banged up, under-conditioned and playing basketball like mere mortals. I present to you the perfect recipe for Laker failure: ordinary LeBron and AD.

    We also didn’t really lose this game on the defensive end, we lost it on the glass where we were decimated 47-33 while also coughing 16 offensive rebounds to our 10. 8 of those were by Ayton. That’s a team stat, a heart stat and a hustle stat. The team did not play with any of those characteristics. Also, largely because of his injuries (at least I assume as much), Anthony Davis averaged a career low in rebounds this season at 7.9. Not entirely sure he’s the answer to shutting down Ayton, at least not when you start digging into the numbers. Ayton is bigger, stronger and about as fast as Davis is. He certainly is younger and, at least in game 1, more energetic and focused.

    You want to point to the success AD enjoyed at the 5 during the playoffs last season? That’s fair but then you also have to account for the different players he now shares the floor with in addition to LeBron’s current limitations. No Danny Green, solid defender with size and skills to defend larger players. Markieff Morris? Broken jumper, offensive liability this season, at least lately (my pick for next man up in this whole big/small, skilled, whatever debate). Rondo orchestrating everything and bringing the team together onto the same page? Currently plays for the other LA team. These aren’t footnotes but rather major changes to the composition and ability of our playoff roster. We can’t trot out a line up of smart, savvy playoff experienced vets at the guard or small forward position, we have what’s here now.

    So, for all the “dig into the numbers before you post” noise-makers, there you go. Drummond led the team in the one of the 2 stats we needed more of: rebounds. For crying out loud he pulled down 7 (!!!) offensive rebounds of his own. That’s 70% of our offensive rebounds for those who are so very into the numbers. You control the glass and you win the basketball game. I don’t care about what happened in all the games without LeBron, or even the games with a hobbled LeBron because if that’s the version of James we’re going to get we will lose. Won’t matter if it’s small ball, tall ball, wall ball or hall ball style. If our superstars play like everyday players there is no chance for us to win.

    So stop blaming the biggest guy just because he’s an easy target. We tallies gotta stick together, after all.

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    • There’s no question that we will go as far as LeBron and AD takes us. That’s never changed. The problem is that playing Drummond makes it easier for teams to defend LeBron and AD and harder for the Lakers to stop elite scorers on other teams.

      You can ignore the stats and eye test and defend Drummond all you like but the reality is we are not at our best on offense or defense when he plays the five. His presence hurts our offensive spacing and defensive mobility. Doesn’t mean we could still win with great games from LeBron and AD. Just that it won’t be as easy as it would be if we played Davis or Gasol at the five instead.

      The gold standard is AD at the five. Unless Anthony is refusing to play the five, which he has outright denied, or we are to ignore the positive numbers for Gasol at the five, there is no reason to risk losing the championship for a Big Penguin pipe dream. At some point, Vogel will have to bench Drummond. Watch and see.

      • AD had a height/weight and skill advantage over everyone he faced in the NBA playoffs last year except Jokic and…lo…did we then slot Dwight Howard onto The Joker? Verily, t’is true!

        Matchups are the thing, man, that was your astute point last season and the same holds true now. If we lose with AD playing as much at the 5 as he did (7 more minutes than Drummond did by my count, could be off by a minute or so) because Ayton is as fast but stronger that won’t be on Drummond that will be on the coaches not recognizing AD doesn’t have what it takes to out muscle DA in the low post.

        Also, there’s nothing wring with that. AD isn’t a prototypical center/PF/whatever. That’s one of the things that makes him unique but also, in some situations, limited. He’ll struggle against bruising big men like Ayton and Jokic, it’s one of the reasons we have 3 other centers on the roster.

    • There’ll be a time when Drummond deserves blame…Sunday wasn’t it. There’ll be a time when the Lakers will be better off starting Gasol or AD at the 5. Tonight isn’t it. Time to play bully ball and punish the Suns.

      • I totally agree LRob. This whole narrative that, somehow, all the blame falls at Drummond’s feet (or in Vogel’s lap for sticking with him) ignores the clear evidence that Drummond rebounded better than any Laker on the floor in his minutes. I also disagree with LT’s narrative that playing Drummond makes it easier to stop AD or LBJ. They let themselves be stopped or they don’t, they are that good.

        If we had gotten outscored by 20, they ran us off the floor or we blew so many defensive switches it lost us the game that would be one thing. but that’s not what happened. We missed a shit ton of free throws, played uninspired on both ends and didn’t match the intensity of the Suns.

        I’m all for trying what we did tonight, maybe see some Gasol if the offense bogs down but I don’t think we have a better player to contend Ayton than Drummond.

        A lot of this would change if Davis and James were healthy and fully conditioned but they’re not. KCP, Kuz, Caruso and Schroeder won’t be enough. We need an inside presence to bully the Suns and that is Dre’.

      • “Time to play bully ball and punish the Suns.” That is exactly what I am expecting tonight.

    • Great post, Jamie. I totally agree.

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    Just goes to show what playing a little bit harder can do for your team. Hope LeBron and AD are watching and getting pissed at everyone dumping on them. This playoffs has the feel of a changing of guard, somehow. Whether it’s Dame or Jokic, Randle or Trae, or Luka D feels like the NBA is trying to move on from the old guard of superstars and showcasing these young bloods. Lot of life left in all of these series, people.

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    Just goes to show what playing a little bit harder can do for your team. Hope LeBron and AD are watching and getting pissed at everyone dumping on them. This playoffs has the feel of a changing of guard, somehow. Whether it’s Dame or Jokic, Randle or Trae, or Luka D feels like the NBA is trying to move on from the old guard of superstars and showcasing these young bloods. Lot of life left in all of these series, people.

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    5 Things: Playoff de ja vu-lite as Lakers lose game 1

    Aloha Jamie
    I thought about Rubio to but that it could be hard to do. Perhaps mid season like you said. If we can trade for Malik i would love it. Unlike Buddy, he is actually a decent defender. For a bad team the Twolves dont have much cap space and they are painfully thin at forward, so you never know. Perhaps the would roll the dice with Kuz. hes upgraded his game and perhaps he will become more aggressive offensively if hes out Lebron and AD’s shadow.

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    • Good Fiver, Jamie…Thanks,

      1. AD needs to eliminate these dud games he brings every so often. The lack of a killer instinct is what keeps him from being the guy to take the mantle from Kobe.

      2. LeBron did a lot of settling in the first three quarters of this game to last the rest of the series. When the coach chooses a lineup that makes it hard to get to the rim, what should the superstars say to him? How about AD demanding to play the five and LeBron demanding to be surrounded by shooters. No room for space eaters in today’s game.

      3. I have almost lost faith that Frank will make any changes until it’s too late and we’re down 2-0 or 3-1. Don’t know what the fascination is with Drummond. He’s not the answer now and definitely not the answer going forward. Fuck any promises of playing time. We’re in the playoffs now. Go with what won last year. Not a lineup that hadn’t played a single game until two weeks ago.

      4. Bench acted like LeBron and AD should carry them. Kuzma and KCP need to pick it up and realize they will be trading chips this summer if the Lakers don’t repeat as champions. Caruso isn’t going to make an All-Defensive team when Booker is hunting him on switches at the end of the game. Learn to stay in front of your man, Alex. What has happened with your defense? Now you’re just trying to score more.

      5. That’s the problem with Vogel. He’ll take the approach that our shots just did not fall and there’s nothing to fix despite the paint being packed and the rotations not being made by his low post dinosaur centers. Start Gasol and limit the five to him and AD, Frank. That’s how we’re going to win…provided you make the inevitable moves before it’s too late.

    • Good fiver Jamie. AD attitude will cure most of the Lakers ills vs Phoenix. He went off for 42 vs. the Suns with Drummond, Gasol , McLemore and Trezz….minus Lebron, Dennis and Kuz. AD is man enough to say the loss was on him. But for some reason many others want to point the fingers elsewhere. We love to blame coaches, role players, etc when we lose, but praise the stars when we win. It doesn’t work like that. Too whom much is given, much is required. AD knows that. Too bad others don’t.

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    LAC in 7
    POR in 7
    LAL in 6
    UTA in 6

    MIA in 7
    PHI in 5
    BRK in 7
    NYK in 7

    I think a lot of these early series are going to go awhile. Home court still isn’t fully home court, no full houses (yet) and (in my opinion) NBA officiating this season has been terrible.

    Not that I’m into conspiracy theories but there’s been plenty of news about how TV ratings are down, Knicks are in for the first time in forever and the money issue the league is facing is also no secret. Easier to have the early rounds go long than later.

    FWIW I barely have the Nets moving on. I don’t expect them to be in the conference finals and I think they’re going to vastly under-estimate their opponents in every round to their detriment.

    Playoff predictions for the first round

    LAC in 7
    POR in 7
    LAL in 6
    UTA in 6

    MIA in 7
    PHI in 5
    BRK in 7
    NYK in 7

    I think a lot of these early series are going to go awhile. Home court still isn’t fully home court, no full houses (yet) and (in my opinion) NBA officiating this season has been terrible.

    Not that I’m into conspiracy theories but there’s been plenty of news about how TV ratings are down, Knicks are in for the first time in forever and the money issue the league is facing is also no secret. Easier to have the early rounds go long than later.

    FWIW I barely have the Nets moving on. I don’t expect them to be in the conference finals and I think they’re going to vastly under-estimate their opponents in every round to their detriment.

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