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It does create issues in terms of being able to bring back impact talent given the cap space and tools we’ll have available. Hard to find instant impact guys off the bench like Harrell, whatever his ancillary issues may be. Not saying he was a perfect fit (obviously was not) but anyone who opts out is taking a low cost player away from a team that won’t be able to add many more given the cap constraints we’ll face.
It’s one reason we may hold onto Alonzo.
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Anyone else find it a little odd that Kidd instantly withdrew from the Blazers coaching search?
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Like…is he hoping Frank gets canned? I highly doubt that’s happening. It’s not like his statement excluded other teams, didn’t affirm he wants to stay in LA or anything. Weird. Some people must really not like Portland, I suppose.
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Done, with the Silver Screen and Roll link added, as well.
Not sure how to embed the link like y’all do, always get an error message…
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The problem is you should have a Twitter account. Then you can click the Twitter icon on any article and create a Tweet linked to the article.
Since you don’t have a Twitter account, you need to find a Tweet. So copy the title of the article, go to Twitter, and search for a Tweet. When you find the Tweet, click on the time or date stamp to go to that Tweet. Then copy and paste the URL for the Tweet into the blog, add a title, and then click Post.
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I just followed those instructions, then clicked the … in upper right of post, clicked Edit, and pasted URL of Tweet, and clicked Post.
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Good season recap, Jamie. Agree with most of what you said but, as usual, we differ on some. Thanks for putting this together. Sorry for the late response. Benn on the road all week on business.
1. Dwight Howard. First, the reason Dwight was ‘dumped’ was because he could not defend out to the perimeter. Your claiming he could “defend out to the perimeter” simple showed your bias in favor of keeping him. The harsh reality is the Lakers had tired of Dwight and felt it was time to move on. I do agree the three centers they chose to replace Howard did not solve the rim protection or vertical threat benefits of keeping him but I also think it was telling when Dwight mistakenly ‘accepted an offer to return’ and the Lakers opted to respond by saying they had not made an offer. I think there were non-basketball reasons for dumping Dwight.
2. Dennis Schroder. We’re pretty much in agreement that the trade looked great at first but then the poor 3-point shooting, excessive turnovers, and demand for more money than he was worth kind of poisoned the situation. I’m hoping the Lakers can find a team to do a sign-and-trade for Schroder. A sign-and-trade would expand the possible buyers for Dennis to include teams without the cap space. I think it would be a serious mistake to overpay to keep him. Better to S&T him or let him walk.
3. Injuries. No doubt the short offseason and condensed regular season was not good for the Lakers. In the end, it was what killed any chance we had to repeat. I worry we may have overestimated how good we were as a team because of the bubble championship. LeBron and AD had four and a half months to get fully healthy and then had their best ever playoff performances as 3-point shooters. Truth could be 36-year old LeBron and injury prone Anthony plus our ‘elite’ role players benefited from the bubble. For sure, our role players, especially the non-superstar starters, were grossly overrated due to the bubble, which impacted this season.
4. 3-Point shooting. The need to improve our 3-point shooting was probably the single biggest roster error made as a result of overconfidence on our shooters after the bubble. Once we got to the playoffs with fans in the stands, that’s a new ball game and our shooters were simply not up to the task. Turning to Drummond only exacerbated the situation and made it easier for teams to clog the paint and live with our terrible 3-point shooting. It’s the curse of Byron Scott, the Lakers’ refusal under Pelinka and Vogel to embrace the value of the 3-point shot. We need a high volume, high percentage shooting guard to replace KCP. We need a point guard who is a 3-point threat. We need a stretch five center who can pull the Goberts and Embiids out of the paint.
5. Frank Vogel. I would focus on Rob Pelinka here. I think the refusal to include THT in the Lowry trade was a monumental mistake. Imagine heading into the offseason with a Superstar Big Three of LeBron, AD, and Lowry under contract and Schroder, KCP, and THT gone. Lakers would have their third star and an elite veteran point guard to carry the load for LeBron and hopefully beat the Nets to win their 18th championship. Instead, we’re going to lose Schroder for nothing, THT will still be a year of two away from being a starter, and KCP will struggle for the third straight year to score more than 10 points per game, which will make him almost untradeable unless you add a sweetener like a pick or THT.
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Why AD gave it a go is a mystery, commend him for his heart, though.
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2 players (jordan, Baylor) have scored 60+ points in an NBA playoff game. Jordan holds the top spot with 63, Baylor at 61. The King may need to join the 60+ point club for us to win tonight. He needs to get to the line, make his threes and be a force all game long. Max money time.
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I haven’t seen anything from LBJ in this series to suggest that this is achievable…unless he gets super-hot from 3. He just hasn’t been able to go hard on that ankle for an entire game. Maybe he slept in the hyperbaric chamber or the hot tub time machine or sum shit…🤦🏽
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I think he’d need all of the above and also to find a leprechaun on his way to the arena. I just don’t know who else is going to put up numbers tonight, AD or no.
After AD (40.3% which tells you everything you need to know about how he’s really feeling out there) and LeBron (48.9% we have 3 other guys shooting over 40%:|
Trezz at 70%, barely plays
Marc Gasol 66.7%…mostly on threes which is kind of ridiculous
Drummond 59.4%,Schroeder is close at 39.3% and it really falls off after Caruso at 37.1%. I know we’re a defense-first team but these are pros. They need to can open shots, wherever they are. Lotta guys wilting, coaching staff relying on sound bites and not schemes and the Suns just look ready to win. We don’t.
But, yeah, King isn’t scoring 60 tonight or if he does it’ll be a Mamba Miracle.
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Man, as bad as it looks at least it ain’t as bad as what the Celtics are about to do. Danny “retiring” so as to save face and not be straight up fired, Bard Stevens taking over because he has a ton of experience running a team and then he’ll find his coaching successor. Wonderful solution. Think we could trade KCP for Marcus Smart straight up?
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Man, a really awesome fiver in what was the worst loss in this era…Beck ages like fine wine 🍷 great track!
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Thanks man, it’s always easier for me to write the sad-face-fivers because there’s always a wealth of material to harp on. In this case I pretty much left out 1/3 of the roster who also sucked and didn’t overly harp on why THT is inexplicably not playing when we were so high on him not to include in the Lowry trade. SO many odd things going on and it’s not all injuries.
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Jason Reed over at LakeShow Life wrote an article today that perfectly sums up my season-long issues with Schroeder: https://lakeshowlife.com/2021/06/02/los-angeles-lakers-move-dennis-schroder/
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From the article, and it’s not even the best point made: “If his market has completely crashed and the Los Angeles Lakers can sign him for less than $10 million a year then I can deal with that. Anything more than that is an overpay, and yes, I know the team offered him $21 million per year. That was a mistake.
Let’s not forget that this is the same player that was traded from the Atlanta Hawks for Carmelo Anthony just so Atlanta could dump salary and buy out Carmelo. The Hawks literally traded him to free up money. What should that tell you?”
-Jason Reed
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Great fiver and great analysis, Jamie. I just wish I could dispute some of that, but you lay bare the truth in all of the five things and there’s nothing here to dispute as depressing as it is.
How bad and unpleasant it is for the Lakers not to show up for work.In a game where two of the starters had zero points and LeBron had zero free throws, it is clear that the whole team imploded, and that includes the coaches as well. While the Suns blew out the Lakers, I kept thinking the Suns are not as good as they looked. Instead, it is the Lakers who looked as bad as hell. Even a G-league team could beat the Lakers last night. This was simply the worst loss for the Lakers since the 39 point loss to the Celtics in game 6 of the 2008 finals. That Celtics team won the title in that game.
That the Lakers could not find a way to contain Cameron Payne in this series is beyond me. He is single-handedly tearing the Lakers apart throughout the series and they have no idea how to stop him. That the team can’t make their open shots is even more mind-boggling. That the coaches can’t find a role for Trez and THT for instant offense falls squarely on the coaches.
As demoralizing as this loss was, I am not giving up on the team until the fat Lady sings. Thanks for the superior analysis.
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Well, that was a complete buzz kill to watch when I got home Sunday night. Suddenly, the Lakers look like the Clippers and the Clippers look like the Lakers. Unless AD recovers quickly, the Lakers are going to suffer a first round flame out with serious implications of a dramatic rework this offseason.
1. Suns obviously wanted this more than the Lakers. Even before Davis’ injury, the Lakers were struggling to hit shots and play defense. Deandre Ayton has been what the Lakers had hoped Andre Drummond would be. Drum has averaged 5.5 points in the last two games as Ayton had ate him for lunch and dinner. Watching Lakers fall to CP3 Suns leaves a terrible bad taste in my mouth.
2. Frank’s coaching decisions have been very questionable. Gasol should start game 5 and Drummond should play against Suns backup center. I’m starting to think the second worst decision the Lakers made was to sign Andre Drummond. It has created nothing but chemistry and strategic problems for the Lakers. I have to feel that the team’s chemistry has suffered as a result. For sure, the rotations have been chaotic. Problem is you cannot trust Dre on offense or defense. Just too lackadaisical.
3. It’s almost like the Lakers have too many players with major flaws that prevent the coach from narrowing the rotation. Unlike last year, we don’t have the luxury of avoiding the tougher teams and being able to make adjustments after giving up a game. If we lose tomorrow, we will be facing an elimination game on Thursday, an elimination game that losing would mean a first round flame out. Imagine the Clippers fans delight at the Lakers fate. Maybe Vogel needs to make a major change. We’re not going to win anything with Drummond at the five.
4. Bench sucks. Everybody on it has flaws. Caruso is a terrible passer. 4 turnovers and several more than we were just lucky bounced our way. A coach who has no clue. Players who cannot contribute two good games in a row. Time this offseason to tear the entire team apart and find a third superstar. This team only won because last year because of the bubble and good health. Lakers about to be rudely exposed.
5. Gasol for sure. Adding Drummond was just a pipe dream that’s caused chaos and indecision on the team. He doesn’t have the talent or smarts to impact big games. Adding him was a major mistake by the front office and coaching staff.
Frankly, I’ve lost faith that Frank can make the moves to win this series. Our superstars are being outplayed and our role players are crap. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Suns win the series in 6 games.
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The team is finally looking like the one with huge arsenal of veteran players that won it all last season.
AD and LeBron’s one two punches in the third quarter were very devastating. Almost felt like a B-52 bomber carpet bombing the hell out of the enemy. Add in a steady dose of Dennis the menace with good contributions from the role players defensively then you have an enemy that is overpowered.
The only negative from the game is those silly turnovers committed in the fourth quarter. I thought I would have a heart attack when they were turning the ball over at that rate.
I am pleading with the Lakers to please leave those turnovers at practice and not in real playoff games. It hurts to see them giving away those precious possessions to the opponent for free. Most of these turnovers were unforced.
They were trending in the right direction recently in terms of turnovers, but it seems they are resorting back to that same old habit. Anyway, that was a good game and thanks for the post, Jamie.
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20 turnovers including 7 from LeBron, many totally unforced. The good news is we shot horrible from deep, turned the ball over 20 times, missed two dunks from LeBron and AD, and yet, still won the game by 14 points. Like last year, Lakers expose teams as being inferior the more the series progresses. Lakers in 5.
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Good fiver as usual, Jamie. And yes, Lakers are starting to look like the Lakers.
1. Aways great to see LeBron still has a switch and knows exactly when to flip it. No settle threes in the third quarter. Instead, it was LeBron going downhill and attacking the rim relentlessly. Answered any questions about whether he can still do it. That ankle is obviously not 100% but that’s not going to stop LBJ.
2. AD dominating. Yes, this is going to be the year when he takes the baton from LeBron and wins his first NBA Finals MVP award. AD to average a 30+ point double double for these playoffs. If Lakers win it all, AD will cement his place as the Lakers next great and heir to LeBron James in purple and gold.
3. Dennis has his warts but he is no shrinking violet and if we can create enough space to empower him to attack the rim, he’s a championship weapon. My guess is he goes for more money and a bigger role than what the Lakers can provide. Lakers more likely to add a player like DRose for less at the point next year. Give Dennis credit for not being afraid to be a player.
4. League needs to change the rules to eliminate plays that are not basketball plays, like the cheap shot by Booker. Looks like CP3 IS mentoring him. League needs to eliminte those intentional fouls to prevent fast breaks. Intentional fouls should always be 2 shots and the ball. Good call by the refs on Booker as he could have caused a major injury to Dennis. Still don’t understand how Draymond’s two hands to the face was not a flagrant. League needs to clean that rule up.
5. Kuzma had best plus/minus on team, scored 8 points and made two of the teams seven threes. He and West played great defense, hit timely threes, and weren’t afraid to shoot. Kuz had third most shot attempts on Lakers. Glad he had the courage to continue to shoot. He and Wes were unsung heroes.
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What was interesting about this game was that it was a 93-92 Lakers lead with 3:40 left when Marc Gasol passed a wide open three and the Lakers got a 24-second violation turnover.
Frank then removed Gasol and went big with AD at the five. What happened next is a 7-0 run where AD at the five shut down the next three Suns possessions with an AD block, Booker miss on challenged 15 footer, and Payne turnover strip off knee.
Meanwhile, LeBron sunk a 1-foot fadeaway, AD splashed a dagger three, and then AD sank a pair of free-throws and Lakers turned 1-point lead into insurmountable 8-point lead in 1:40 minutes and just 2 minutes left in game.
It’s apparent from Vogel’s moves that the Lakers want to minimize AD minutes at the 5 even though that was the key to winning the championship last season. The big question is will AD playing fewer minutes at the 5 continue to be the plan. Right now, that looks to be the game plan. We’ll see if that changes.
Bottom line, AD at the 5 defense and LeBron and AD from deep is how the Lakers won this game.
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Great win. Good to see the turnovers trimming down a little bit. I like the idea of keeping AD fresh at the end of the game. That’s why your take on the centers was on point. The bench needs to fix whatever is ailing them, and Schroeder needs to continue to be on the attack more without the turnovers. Great post as always, Jamie.
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Excellent fiver Jamie. I’ll echo you and Buba that limiting the turnovers was very impressive. Lakers will be extremely tough to beat when they commit only 7 turnovers.
Agree LT that AD as the closer really unleashed the Lakers defense. That’s a good use of him at the 5 vs. Phoenix…closing the half and the game if necessary. I do believe at some point he’ll need to play more minutes at the five, but hopefully we can save that for down the road to keep him fresh as possible.
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There’s no question that we will go as far as LeBron and AD takes us. That’s never changed. The problem is that playing Drummond makes it easier for teams to defend LeBron and AD and harder for the Lakers to stop elite scorers on other teams.
You can ignore the stats and eye test and defend Drummond all you like but the reality is we are not at our best on offense or defense when he plays the five. His presence hurts our offensive spacing and defensive mobility. Doesn’t mean we could still win with great games from LeBron and AD. Just that it won’t be as easy as it would be if we played Davis or Gasol at the five instead.
The gold standard is AD at the five. Unless Anthony is refusing to play the five, which he has outright denied, or we are to ignore the positive numbers for Gasol at the five, there is no reason to risk losing the championship for a Big Penguin pipe dream. At some point, Vogel will have to bench Drummond. Watch and see.
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AD had a height/weight and skill advantage over everyone he faced in the NBA playoffs last year except Jokic and…lo…did we then slot Dwight Howard onto The Joker? Verily, t’is true!
Matchups are the thing, man, that was your astute point last season and the same holds true now. If we lose with AD playing as much at the 5 as he did (7 more minutes than Drummond did by my count, could be off by a minute or so) because Ayton is as fast but stronger that won’t be on Drummond that will be on the coaches not recognizing AD doesn’t have what it takes to out muscle DA in the low post.
Also, there’s nothing wring with that. AD isn’t a prototypical center/PF/whatever. That’s one of the things that makes him unique but also, in some situations, limited. He’ll struggle against bruising big men like Ayton and Jokic, it’s one of the reasons we have 3 other centers on the roster.
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There’ll be a time when Drummond deserves blame…Sunday wasn’t it. There’ll be a time when the Lakers will be better off starting Gasol or AD at the 5. Tonight isn’t it. Time to play bully ball and punish the Suns.
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I totally agree LRob. This whole narrative that, somehow, all the blame falls at Drummond’s feet (or in Vogel’s lap for sticking with him) ignores the clear evidence that Drummond rebounded better than any Laker on the floor in his minutes. I also disagree with LT’s narrative that playing Drummond makes it easier to stop AD or LBJ. They let themselves be stopped or they don’t, they are that good.
If we had gotten outscored by 20, they ran us off the floor or we blew so many defensive switches it lost us the game that would be one thing. but that’s not what happened. We missed a shit ton of free throws, played uninspired on both ends and didn’t match the intensity of the Suns.
I’m all for trying what we did tonight, maybe see some Gasol if the offense bogs down but I don’t think we have a better player to contend Ayton than Drummond.
A lot of this would change if Davis and James were healthy and fully conditioned but they’re not. KCP, Kuz, Caruso and Schroeder won’t be enough. We need an inside presence to bully the Suns and that is Dre’.
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Just goes to show what playing a little bit harder can do for your team. Hope LeBron and AD are watching and getting pissed at everyone dumping on them. This playoffs has the feel of a changing of guard, somehow. Whether it’s Dame or Jokic, Randle or Trae, or Luka D feels like the NBA is trying to move on from the old guard of superstars and showcasing these young bloods. Lot of life left in all of these series, people.
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Good Fiver, Jamie…Thanks,
1. AD needs to eliminate these dud games he brings every so often. The lack of a killer instinct is what keeps him from being the guy to take the mantle from Kobe.
2. LeBron did a lot of settling in the first three quarters of this game to last the rest of the series. When the coach chooses a lineup that makes it hard to get to the rim, what should the superstars say to him? How about AD demanding to play the five and LeBron demanding to be surrounded by shooters. No room for space eaters in today’s game.
3. I have almost lost faith that Frank will make any changes until it’s too late and we’re down 2-0 or 3-1. Don’t know what the fascination is with Drummond. He’s not the answer now and definitely not the answer going forward. Fuck any promises of playing time. We’re in the playoffs now. Go with what won last year. Not a lineup that hadn’t played a single game until two weeks ago.
4. Bench acted like LeBron and AD should carry them. Kuzma and KCP need to pick it up and realize they will be trading chips this summer if the Lakers don’t repeat as champions. Caruso isn’t going to make an All-Defensive team when Booker is hunting him on switches at the end of the game. Learn to stay in front of your man, Alex. What has happened with your defense? Now you’re just trying to score more.
5. That’s the problem with Vogel. He’ll take the approach that our shots just did not fall and there’s nothing to fix despite the paint being packed and the rotations not being made by his low post dinosaur centers. Start Gasol and limit the five to him and AD, Frank. That’s how we’re going to win…provided you make the inevitable moves before it’s too late.
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Good fiver Jamie. AD attitude will cure most of the Lakers ills vs Phoenix. He went off for 42 vs. the Suns with Drummond, Gasol , McLemore and Trezz….minus Lebron, Dennis and Kuz. AD is man enough to say the loss was on him. But for some reason many others want to point the fingers elsewhere. We love to blame coaches, role players, etc when we lose, but praise the stars when we win. It doesn’t work like that. Too whom much is given, much is required. AD knows that. Too bad others don’t.
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LAC in 7
POR in 7
LAL in 6
UTA in 6MIA in 7
PHI in 5
BRK in 7
NYK in 7I think a lot of these early series are going to go awhile. Home court still isn’t fully home court, no full houses (yet) and (in my opinion) NBA officiating this season has been terrible.
Not that I’m into conspiracy theories but there’s been plenty of news about how TV ratings are down, Knicks are in for the first time in forever and the money issue the league is facing is also no secret. Easier to have the early rounds go long than later.
FWIW I barely have the Nets moving on. I don’t expect them to be in the conference finals and I think they’re going to vastly under-estimate their opponents in every round to their detriment.
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Harrell has a beef, BTW. This is where I definitely agree with LakerTom in regards to the Drummond arrival mucking up rotations and forcing Frank to re-work everything 3/4 of the way in. Harrell also was never up to the task defensively but that wasn’t news when we signed him, Frank and Co. rarely found a good way to utilize the former 6MotY and that’s on them as much as it’s on him. The dude is a talent, just needs the right situation. I highly doubt he’ll find it in LA.
Drummond may be the better player, in theory, but the waves his signing caused tipped the little boat that was our season. So, if he does come back, tan we better see some genius-level rotations with him, AD and LBJ on the floor. Otherwise this will be a ridiculous farce. Trezz had the benefit of a whole camp and season, was healthy and look what that got him?