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    Magic famously waited outside LeBron’s house to offer him the max deal at midnight. Legends and stories abound of deals happening within the first seconds of free agency. This off-season my midnight move would be to offer Derrick Rose the full MLE for 2 years with a PO. Basically the same deal we offered Trezz. I think this makes sense because you pair LeBron with a scoring playmaker who understands what it is to carry a team. We saw that Rose has plenty left in the tank during the playoffs where he just needed the rest of the team to step up and they failed to do so.

    What would your midnight move be?

    What’s your midnight move?

    Magic famously waited outside LeBron’s house to offer him the max deal at midnight. Legends and stories abound of deals happening within the first seconds of free agency. This off-season my midnight move would be to offer Derrick Rose the full MLE for 2 years with a PO. Basically the same deal we offered Trezz. I think this makes sense because you pair LeBron with a scoring playmaker who understands what it is to carry a team. We saw that Rose has plenty left in the tank during the playoffs where he just needed the rest of the team to step up and they failed to do so.

    What would your midnight move be?

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    • I like Rose as well. I would also be ready to call on Batum with the mini mid level if Rose turned us down.

    • More like a Midnight Blunder since offering anybody the full MLE will automatically hardcap the team. Most you can offer is the taxpayer MLE of $5.9M. Not enough to get Rose.

      Might as well go for Westbrook if you’re going to get a point guard who doesn’t shoot the three. At least then you’re not hardcapped and can go all in on filling out the roster and buying a championship.

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    Worth the read

    What a story, definitely worth the read and a tear-jerker.
    https://theundefeated.com/features/a-year-ago-tony-brown-was-reffing-his-first-nba-finals-now-hes-fighting-for-his-life/

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    Anyone get the Marc Stein newsletter?

    It’s LakerTom heaven, through and through. Of course, it being basically the NBA dog days, especially on non-game days, this is as reliable as the weather man.

    Here’s the important part (most of the article is about Ben Simmons): Yet it’s worth noting that inevitable rumbles of Lakers interest would not merely emanate from Simmons’ status as a Paul client like LeBron James and Anthony Davis. Word is that the Lakers, on top of their well-chronicled need for more shooting, covet one more difference-making playmaker who would allow James and Davis to spend more time at power forward and center.

    Expect to eventually hear of them searching for potential pathways, however obstacle-strewn they would be, to reacquiring restricted free agent-to-be Lonzo Ball for that reason.

    Here’s the link: https://marcstein.substack.com/p/finals-tomorrow-trade-talk-today

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    • Man, add in a S&T of Trezz for Myles and this is LT’s perfect summer.

      • From the article Jamie posted:

        Yet it’s worth noting that inevitable rumbles of Lakers interest would not merely emanate from Simmons’ status as a Paul client like LeBron James and Anthony Davis. Word is that the Lakers, on top of their well-chronicled need for more shooting, covet one more difference-making playmaker who would allow James and Davis to spend more time at power forward and center.

        Expect to eventually hear of them searching for potential pathways, however obstacle-strewn they would be, to reacquiring restricted free agent-to-be Lonzo Ball for that reason.

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    None other than Damien Lillard has a featured track on it. Lakers all the way, lol. Rather this better explains why he and LeBron have been hanging out.

    Anyone else notice the Space Jam soundtrack?

    None other than Damien Lillard has a featured track on it. Lakers all the way, lol. Rather this better explains why he and LeBron have been hanging out.

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    Milwaukee ain’t playing too bad (except Jrue who is floundering for his shot so far) but Phoenix has had the answer at every turn at home. Bucks need game 3 like humans need oxygen or this could be the 4 game sweep nobody here predicted.

    Man...

    Milwaukee ain’t playing too bad (except Jrue who is floundering for his shot so far) but Phoenix has had the answer at every turn at home. Bucks need game 3 like humans need oxygen or this could be the 4 game sweep nobody here predicted.

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    • I think they will bounce back from this dreaded deficit. But, man, Phoenix is going to give them a run for their money especially if Jrue keeps floundering like you said, and Khris Middleton acting toothless.
      “Bucks need game 3 like humans need oxygen”. That is really funny but very true. I chuckled as I read that.

    • Bucks gonna lose this series but there better not be any shit-talking about Giannis. Dude’s knee was bending backwards a week ago and now he’s out there putting on a show while his teammates & head coach are giving him no support. Yeah..his game has some holes but he makes the most outta what he has.

      • Giannis is a hero right now and has a team of Clark Kent’s. Also thought Bud was a defensive coach but Monty is out-foxing him every game so far…

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    5 Things: Top Five Vet Minimum Players

    It happens every off season. A few players who have been elite in one or more areas hit the age where the big deals do not exist for them. They have entered the dreaded, but essential for all parties involved, Vet Minimum era of their careers. Kobe avoided it by the grace of Mitch and Jim (and would have retired before he ever hit it, IMO, he didn’t need to go chasing rings. Happened to Mitch Richmond, got his ring as a minor part of the 2001-02 Lakers. Happened Dwight Howard. It happens. For teams like the Lakers that are looking at a high probability at having to hard cap themselves in order to improve the team, veteran minimum deals can be a lifeline to decent role-players. Let’s take a look at the 5 best we might be able to land.

    1. J.J. Reddick. Reddick has been linked to the Lakers and/or LeBron James for years and with good reason. He hits threes and he gets himself open to do so. Reddick is one of the old school shooters who can catch and shoot off of weak-side picks, standing still and has a mid-range game that translates to the playoffs. He may not be an elite defender but it’s not a career long weakness of his, he’s got some grit and grind to his game. Reddick will not have a shortage of offers this summer, literally every team needs some shooting off the bench, so if he’s on the Lakers’ radar they need to strike hot and fast. if someone offers him more than the vet minimum then good on them, Reddick and his agent.
    2. Carmelo Anthony. The only problem I see here is that we had ample time to secure Melo’s services when he was out of the Association. Carmelo may have cooled on becoming a Laker out of personal pride and respect. having said that, there’s still a spot on his trophy wall for a championship ring and the likelihood he wins one in Portland feels more and more distant. What better place to make it happen than alongside friend and fellow banana boater LeBron James? Melo would (likely) come off the bench so if there’s a team that offers him a starting role he may take that. A New York reunion isn’t out of the question and they could certainly (although unlikely) offer him more than the vet min. Melo brings shot making and gravitas to a team that needs both off the bench, he’s not a plus defender but he’s still one of the strongest players in the league and can hold his own.
    3. Tony Snell. If the Hawks don’t hold onto to Tony Snell the Lakers should try and snag him off the free agent market ASAP. Snell canned a ridiculous 56.9% of his three point shots last season. In case you’re wondering if that’s a one-season mirage, it’s not. The man is a shade under 40% for his career and isn’t a hole on defense which fits in with both the Lakers’ needs and identity. While it would be amazing if one of the teams with cap space that needs outside shooting a decent defender didn’t offer him something tastier than the vet minimum there are always a few players that either want to secure money and their next team early before the money dries up. Tony Snell and his agent should at least get a early morning call from the Rob Pelinka when free agency starts to gauge the interest with a vet minimum deal that expires in a couple days should they not jump at it.
    4. Paul Millsap. Is this the season Paul Millsap enters the realm of the veteran minimum deal? Could be. At 36 Paul still had a solid role on the Denver Nuggets and has been a huge part of their culture. Injuries, a reduced role and a desire to get younger/quicker could spell the end of his Nuggets tenure. If he does look for greener pastures the Lakers should come-a-calling. Millsap would be the perfect upgrade over Montrezl Harrell. Don’t get me wrong, I have a tremendous amount of appreciation for Trezz and the heart and energy he plays with but Millsap brings that plus better defense and an outside shot. While he is getting on in NBA years (15 years in the Association) and has had his share of injury-plagued seasons the Lakers would be the perfect spot for Paul to start the twilight of his career.
    5. Kent Bazemore. Reunited and it feeeeels so gooooood. This is a longshot, at only 32 Kent has some miles left in him but he’s right at that age where, if you haven’t been a part of a winner yet you might be looking at bad deals on bad teams. Kent could, maybe, in theory, hopefully, be looking to put some shine on his career and what better place than in Los Angeles where his rise began? A better defender than a lot of the three point specialists out there Kent has a solid all-around game that would fit in perfectly with the Lakers. He has solid defensive skills, a solid three point shot and can still get to the rim and score or make simple plays. It’s debatable whether this is Kent’s first year as a vet minimum player but if it is the Lakers could be the ideal fit.

    Obviously there are plenty more potential vet minimum players out there, these are just my personal top five. What are yours?

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    • What I still do not understand is how we can do this and that and get Westy at $44 Mil, but not Dame at $44 Mil. I do get that Portland wouldn’t do it, but it is possible right?

    • All quality choices to take a chance on,

    • Nope on Reddick (goint to the Nets because he lives in Brooklyn), lukewarm on Melo, Snell would be good, Milsap is done, Bazmore didn’t work out so well for us the first time so 11/2 out of 5 is pretty good. Snell, Alex Len, Harry Giles, Torrey Craig, and Boogie would be better. Would also think about Khem Birch, Trey Lyles, Patty Mills, Austin Rivers, and Otto Porter Jr. if he overplays his free-agent hand. We also need to have better scouting so that we too can get lucky on some prospects playing overseas or in the G-league. I grow tired of watching the Lakers whiff on guys like LakerTom and Vee’s favorite Jared Dudley, JR Smith, and Dion Waiters, while guys who make contributions like Christian Wood, Cameron Payne, Torrey Craig, Trey Burke, and Facundo Campazzo always get picked up by other teams.

      • Also keep an eye on one of Rob Pelinka’s former clients Dante Exum who is a UFA. If his career gets resurrected, it might just be with the Lakers.

        • Doubt Birch leaves Toronto now that they’ll likely get approval to play in Toronto again in the Fall…he will help sell tickets along with the 1st Round Pick…Marketing through the yin/yang for him as well…

      • J.J. might live in Brooklyn but his ring is waiting for him in LA. lol, J.J. will have his pick of vet minimum if someone doesn’t offer him a chunk of their MLE, which is kinda likely given his rep.

        I’d take either Boogie or Millsap, we’re talking about guys 12-15 after all. Let Paul do the Rondo thing in the regular season: prepare for the offseason. Much better defensively than Cousins, Boogie has more offense. I’d take either over Dudley.

        Melo can still ball from all over and even iso when called upon to do so. Not many guys on the list can do that. I’ve never really been a an Austin Rivers fan, always felt like Jordan Farmar (I’m so good, I should be the lead guy…hey…how’d I end up at the end of the bench, Dad?!). I’d take Melo over Khem. I don’t se Torey leaving Phoenix for the vet min. Just as likely they’d offer him that and keep a decent piece in-house.

        I had Exum on my list for a hot minute but I have a hard time seeing him not getting a better role elsewhere. You never know though, the Pelinka connection shouldn’t be ignored.

        Patty Mills is a good one, hard for me not to see him as a Spur so feels like if he vet minimumed anywhere it’d be there. Otto would be a coup. Not sure that’s a real possibility.

    • Man, can’t wait for the free agency and see what we got.
      Everyone you mentioned gets me itchy, you feel me? And there is more to include in the list.
      As long as we are a better 3-point shooting team I am all good. We can’t afford to rank in the bottom 5 in 3-point shooting as we did this past season. That was just a horrible season in terms of shooting.

      • The first two days are always really exciting but then the game of $$$ musical chairs begins which, in some ways, is even more compelling. Akin to the buyout deadline: who is going to end up where?!?!?!

    • Jamie, thanks for an excellent Fiver subject.

      Good selection of five under-the-radar vet minimum candidates. Regardless of the path the Lakers choose to rebuild, we’re going to need a lot of these guys. In fact, if you look at how these playoffs went, vet minimum players were big factors in many series due to the injuries to stars.

      1. JJ Redick – Definitely a proven clutch volume shooter.

      2. Carmelo Anthony – Can still get his own shot any time.

      3. Tony Snell – Can never have enough 3-point shooters.

      4. Paul Milsap – Can play small ball stretch five.

      5. Kent Bazemore – Always good 3&D player.

      Other candidates the Lakers should certainly pursue:

      1. Markieff Morris – Still invaluable piece for Lakers.

      2. Boogie – Still capable of stretching defenses.

      3. This year’s crop of Buyout Market candidates

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    5 Things: What happens if...

    In this edition of 5 Things we take a look at what happens if things break incredibly wrong for the Lakers in the off season. With well-documented cap issues, few draft picks left to trade and holes throughout the line up the Lakers need a lot of things to break right for them this summer in order to best assure themselves a chance to win another banner.

    1. None of our free agents agree to a sign and trade? The sign and trade has become very en vogue in the modern NBA. Small market teams looking to keep their costs deflated, big market teams wanting an artificial ceiling to bump up against so as not to spend themselves into oblivion and teams trading an under-contract player to the team of his choice in return for at least something. The thing is these kind of deals require a lot of permission. Permission from the other team involved in the negotiation who may want to simply sign said player instead of providing the Lakers with anything of value. Permission from the player(s) signing the new deal, unless one of the players under contract as a no-trade clause. That pretty much closes the door on Montrezl “I finally got some run in LA” Harrell. The only way I see Trezz acquiescing to a S&T is if the money and role are so good he can’t pass it up. Hard to see where that could be. Trezz is also unlikely to pick up his PO for next season although if his agent gauges the market for his client, which was surprisingly low given his run with the Clippers and winning the 6motY award prior to coming here, he may actually be back. That leaves either guys like Wes Matthews Jr. or the mercurial Dennis Schroder. Schroder made $17.4 million last season and is looking for a $20 for 5 or $25 for 4 year deal. If one is honest, that’s absurd. That puts him in the same earning category as Fred VanVleet/Malcom Brogdon. For reference they both scored more points per game, took and made more three pointers per game, had better assist to turnover ratios, and rebounded the ball better. Fred VanVleet was a key cog on a championship team, Malcom Brogdon upped his game this season despite losing to the Bucks with Indy. Schroder shrunk, his numbers dipped across the board and he missed crucial games this season…twice…because he had to enter the NBA health and safety protocols In short there is no metric that makes me believe Schroder is worth more than the money he earned this season, at best. The fact that he could have signed a 4 year deal for $20 mil from the Lakers is something I expect Dennis may end up regretting as I don’t see him getting that money on the open market on a team as high profile as ours along with the title expectations. If that’s not important to him, swell, thanks for all you did and good luck to you.
    2. The Lakers can’t stay healthy? This is the conundrum every season. Every season health of the team ranks near the top of my priority list. When you have an aging superstar, like we do, it’s even more important. There are of course no guarantees just ask Giannis and the Bucks or Kawhi Leonard. Leonard is the load management pioneer and still suffered a seriously sprained knee, Giannis just landed awkwardly and could be done until next season. Accidents happen. What can be done is to minimize the risk with an elite training staff and good practices. Practices that don’t involve going into the NBA H&SP…twice…in a three month span. In short this is the most unguaranteeable point as it involves a modicum of good luck. Where the Lakers can do more to join elite company is to assemble the best training staff money can buy. There is no salary cap for coaches and staff.
    3. Speaking of coaches, what are the Lakers going to do about re-vamping the offense? This point was originally about specifically replacing Jason Kidd but since we just hired Fizdale it’s safe to say that we’ll be maximizing our flow and space as much as possible. Whether that heralds the end of the, as LakerTom likes to call them, low-post dinosaurs in center form remains to be seen. Frankly, I find that school of thought to be highly one-dimensional.. Zubac, Cousins, Lopez, and of course Ayton are all bigs with varying degrees of stretch to their games. Rather I think we need a better shooting coach than perhaps Mike Penberthy can be. We need a shooting whisperer like…Mike D’antoni…who will encourage his shooters by never telling them it’s a bad shot, especially when they are wide open. We cannot rely on the law of averages. Therein lies the true fool’s gold. While I feel we’ve done more to address the three point shooting than some have I am also of the opinion that we have lacked schemes and sets designed to get specific guys specific shots.
    4. We start off terribly next season? It’s safe to say that there is at least one reason why coach Vogel has yet to be extended. One is potentially, but not likely, the money. We can’t cap ourselves with coaches so if they’re quibbling over a few million bucks that would be surprising. Rather I think the front office wants to see what we can really do outside the Bubble. Much was made of the no fans aspect of the Bubble but I always thought the biggest advantage the Lakers had in the Bubble was the lack of travel. It meant LeBron could instantly start treatment, that the coaches could instantly start watching film, that all of your time was maximized and focused on one thing because there were no distractions. At least not many. If we start off rough I expect that Vogel won’t last too long, Fizadale can easily come in and replace Frank and that may just the reason he took our job over some other teams out there.
    5. What does all this mean for the offseason and free agency? It means the following: we’re picking at #22 and we can’t trade that player until free agency starts. While some are hasty to include that pick in trade scenarios, and I wouldn’t be adverse to it for the right kind of player(s), there is also something to be said for simply making the pick. That pick comes with a scaling salary that starts at $2, 042, 600. By year 3 it’s only $2,246,900. That, ladies and gentlemen, is what’s known as cost-controlled talent. As we saw with THT who played for the bargain basement price of $1,517,981 and Alex Caruso ($2,750,000) you can get a lot of on court impact from rookie deals. While you certainly want to surround AD and LeBron with the best available talent there is also something to be said for the Lakers ability to scour the various gyms of planet Earth and find impact players. From Jordan Clarkson to even Devontae Cacock the Lakers have always done a great job at finding NBA-level talent that other teams pass on. We really need to maximize that skill with LeBron and AD on the team. Otherwise we’ll have to ship out pretty much every decent role-player and fill the roster out with vet minimum deals. As it is we’ll have our fair share of vet minimum deals this season anyhow.

    Take heart, Laker faithful, we have 2 of the best players on planet Earth. We just need them to be healthy and for the team around them to be semi-in sync when the playoffs roll around. My wish for next season is for both LeBron and Ad to do a little more load managing and for Frank to try and manage their regular season minutes a little better. Realistically we’re only a piece or two away from being a dominant team. Everyone thought Schroder was the missing piece and who knows, maybe he can be if he gets his big deal and feels secure about his future. I don’t see Andre’ Drummond as one of the main pieces we need but there’s also no denying his effectiveness rebounding the ball and his quick hands on defense. Maybe all we have to do is…(insert LakerTom nightmare dream footage here)…run it back.

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    • Wow. A Five HORRIBLE Things post by Jamie. Zero glass full.

      1. None of our free agents agree to be sign-and-traded? What you’re forgetting is that most of the teams who would be in the market for a high priced star do not have the cap space to sign the player as a free agent and there are more elite players looking for big contracts than there are teams with big cap space.

      2. How are Lakers going to stay stay healthy? Don’t see this being a problem next season like it was this season. With first round exit, Lakers will actually get more time than usual to get rested and healthy. Thinking our training staff was the problem is naive and simplistic. Problem was pressure of short offseason and compressed regular season. Good luck in bubble. Bad in shortened season. Don’t overreact.

      3. what are the Lakers going to do about re-vamping the offense? It’s easy to point to the coach and systems but honestly it’s more a problem of personnel. If we want to take and make more threes, then we need players on the roster who can do that. Trade for Kyle Lowry and Buddy Hield and the problem is solved. Both shoot 40% on more the 8 threes per game.

      4. What if we start slowly? The Lakers are not going to fire Frank Vogel. In fact, odds are they will give him an extension rather than have him be a lame duck coach. We lost because of front office mistakes and injuries to superstars. Declining to trade THT for Lowry. Promising a starting position to Drummond. Not to poor coaching.

      5. Lakers can’t get better players. There are always impact players available but it’s often a crap shoot. This year, the Clippers did a great job adding Jackson and Batum. We didn’t by adding Drummond and McLemore. Focus on upgrading the pooint guard, shooting guard, and center positions. Rest of roster can be filled with vet minimum deals.

      Lakers will be amoung top three favorites to win next year along with the Nets and Clippers. Stop with the gloom and doom or at least counter with a Five TERRIFIC Things post.

      • By the way, watching your horrible Angels play my horrible Yankees. 10 runs in the first inning. These teams are going nowhere fast. Time to end the pitching and hitting experiment. Great hitter, mediocre pitcher.

        • Agreed on Ohtani Tom 100%, everything else…well we’ll just have to discuss it on the podcast tomorrow.

        • lol, how’d that raining on the Angel parade work out for ya LT?

          • Ohtani is going to hit 30+ HR’s and win 10 games. Keep doubting boys.

            • 10 games? Is that the gold standard for starting pitching? After the All-Star game have him focus on being one of the most feared hitters in the league and pray Trout comes back and the Angels can sneak into the Wild Card.

            • He’s playing solid in the 2 way role and doing things nobody has ever done. That’s a good standard unto itself. Is he a top of the line Ace? No. Is he an elite hitter? Yes. Together he’s a generational talent and beyond.

            • Not Shohei ei’s fault we bet the farm on Buddy and Auintana. I will add that, long term, I see him moving to the pen and using him in relief.

          • Never seen a Yankees team that choked as much as this team. Going to need a major rebuild. I refuse to watch any more Yankee games this season.

      • DOomsday Fiver. Don’t owrry, I’m working on “the Sun is shining!” one, as well.

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    Still feels light but better than how a lot of these clown shows end up when cops kill people on the job. If he behaves himself he can get out in 15. Hope this brings some semblance of relief to the family and friends of George Floyd

    22.5 for Chauvin

    Still feels light but better than how a lot of these clown shows end up when cops kill people on the job. If he behaves himself he can get out in 15. Hope this brings some semblance of relief to the family and friends of George Floyd

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    Interesting way to leave the team by signaling whom you’d like to see take your job. Having said that it makes a ton of sense. Cuban values relationships, Kidd has history in Dallas, and Luka can learn from one of the best.

    Rick endorses Kidd

    Interesting way to leave the team by signaling whom you’d like to see take your job. Having said that it makes a ton of sense. Cuban values relationships, Kidd has history in Dallas, and Luka can learn from one of the best.

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    • Sometimes I wonder if the overseas players aren’t at a disadvantage in this area. Elite high-school players get exposed to these coaches, scouts, & personnel people at such an early age and build these relationships. Guys like Giannis, Joker, & Luka don’t really have those experiences to fall back on when they get in a position of power to have input on their next head coach.

      • Tim McMahon kind of broke down how complicated this became on the hoop collective…

        • Luka’s situation is unique is that he’s forcing the Mavs to push all the chips in the middle now…He doesn’t need to develop..he is developed…what he needs is help…

          • But if they come to Luka and say..flat out..who do you want as coach?. .what depth of knowledge does he have that he can rely upon? Has he ever even had a conversation with Jason Kidd? U.S.-born stars have been having those interactions since before they could drive a car.

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    Dude is balling out and is going to get paid.

    Cam got $$$ in his eyes

    Dude is balling out and is going to get paid.

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    • Also wrong playoff p showed up tonight. Clipps aint winning anything when George cant hit from deep.

    • Hell, I might ‘settle’ for Cameron Payne to be our starting point guard using a big hunk of our MLE. But what a great backup point guard.

      Tonight: 29.0/1.0/9.0 50/25/75% 2 out of 8 3PA.

      Reg Season: 8.4/2.4/3.6 48/4. 44.0/89/3% 1.2 out of 3.8 3PPG
      Playoffs: 11.8/2.7/3.9 44.0/35.4/93.8 1.4 out of 4.0 3PPG

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    To all you Laker Dads out there enjoy your day, may your lives be full of love, happiness and Laker Ws next season!

    Happy Fathers Day

    To all you Laker Dads out there enjoy your day, may your lives be full of love, happiness and Laker Ws next season!

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    • Father’s Day Gifts that keep on giving:
      1. Bucks taking down the Nets! Check!
      2. Suns taking down the Clippers! Check!
      3. Hawks taking down the Sixers! Pending!

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    Trae has been amazing but Ennius has showed everyone a little something roughing it out on that knee. I think Philly takes game 7.

    Calling 76ers

    Trae has been amazing but Ennius has showed everyone a little something roughing it out on that knee. I think Philly takes game 7.

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    Steve has a chance to show what he can bring. Down to just Durant and you’re not going to whine your way away from P.J. Tucker and his defense. Steve needs to put the work in, find ways to shake Durant loose, squeeze some points out of the rest of the roster and forge something resembling a defensive identity. If he wins this series as-is he will some earn some major stripes on the coaching jacket.

    Coach Nash's turn to step it up

    Steve has a chance to show what he can bring. Down to just Durant and you’re not going to whine your way away from P.J. Tucker and his defense. Steve needs to put the work in, find ways to shake Durant loose, squeeze some points out of the rest of the roster and forge something resembling a defensive identity. If he wins this series as-is he will some earn some major stripes on the coaching jacket.

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    • Well said. He needs to come up with something. Get creative with Joe Harris and Landry

      • What was once a philosophical NBA quandary (Does an elite offense completely overwhelm an elite NBA defense at the highest level of play?) has now become a more mundane question (can a coach who has relied mostly on the talent of his players to succeed have the inspirado to find a new way to win?)

        Kinda like the Lakers and Coach Vogel and his “offense”. It doesn’t work without a healthy LeBron and AD. That’s one of the things you always had to admire about ‘DAntoni teams: they got buckets. Didn’t always work in the playoffs where you also have to play above average defense, but we wouldn’t have slid so far if there was something more creative on the offensive end.

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    5 Things: Player Grades

    While it’s never fun to look back at defeat and so much of what went wrong can be chalked up to so many missed games by our Big 2 there can,
    I believe, be some lessons learned. Rather than assign every player a grade I’m breaking this up into squads the content of which shall be revealed below. Let’s dig in.

    1. LeBron and Anthony. The place where all things Lakers start and end. The most eye-pooping stat these 2 put up this year is obviously games missed. Between the 2 of them they missed 63 games. In the shortened and compressed 2020-21 season Davis played exactly half of it (36) and James not much more (45). The fact that those games came on the back half of the schedule only added to the miasma of issues that plagued the team. When they played they generally played well although Davis never really looked right for any real stretch of either the regular season or the playoffs. While the sheer volume of games missed should cause a few bells to go off in alarm it’s not the end of the dream for Laker Nation. With a long summer ahead of them and what should be a normal slate of games next season (82, more spaced out, even more space if they end up keeping it at 72) the duo has ample time to heal, train and get set to challenge for another NBA title. Grade: B for both because you can’t impact the game if you’re not playing. It would have been lower but LeBron’s injury was not of his own doing, he needed help.
    2. The rest of the OG starters. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Marc Gasol and Dennis Schroder all were slotted as a part of the opening day starting five. From the beginning there were some issues in terms of fit. KCP started off his season like he finished last: on fire and having a large impact on the game. That quickly evaporated and he never became a consistent force after the first quarter or so of the season. Schroder had not one but two lengthy stints on the league’s Health & Safety protocols the second of which was particularly devastating as it came at a time when we were trying to integrate several new pieces. Marc Gasol ended up having about the level of impact expected, not much. All in all the trio of players that filled out the OG starting five had an underwhelming campaign. Grade: C+
    3. The OG Bench. The Laker bench started off fine, after all, they’re bench players for a reason. Montrezl Harrel did not have the level of impact he had on the other LA team but that is kind of to be expected as his usage and role were vastly different on this squad. Alex Caruso had a what would appear to be solid season shooting from three point land but in my opinion Alex took a bit of a step back this season. I would trade a few % points of three point shooting for the higher level of overall imp[act he had on basket ball games last season when he led the team in +/- and had terrific synergy with LeBron. He took a long time to adjust his attack to compensate for team’s playing him to pass, as well. Talen Horton-Tucker wowed the NBA with a stellar preseason and started hot off the gate but also struggled to adjust when defenses started sitting on his drives. Wesley Matthews had a really streaky year in terms of his shooting but was fairly solid on defense which earned him solid playoff minutes. Markieff Morris was most effective as a starter which led me to wonder why he didn’t ever get the starting nod in the playoffs but likely that was due as much to his broken three point shot as anything else. 2 way players Devontae Cacock and Kostas Antetokounmpo did not have much impact. The main issue I had with our bench, this applies to the OG starter group as well, was that as a whole they seemed unable to step up and win basketball games in the regular season. They treaded just enough water to squeeze into the playoffs and fell a pretty long way in the standings. This will, likely, affect some of their value in their various upcoming free agency negotiations. Grade: C+ after all, they are reserves.
    4. The new additions. Drummond and McLemore weren’t brought in to watch games, they were brought in to have an instant impact on a team that, at the time, was sorely in need of some fresh wattage. Of the 2 I would argue that McLemore offered the most potential to alter the outcome of our season. While not a great defender his shooting was sorely needed as guys like KCP and Caruso shot fewer and fewer threes down the stretch to preserve %s and, in Caruso’s case, reflected a return to the mean (if you’re hoping for Alex Caruso: Microwave Scorer you will be disappointed for a loooooong time). McLemore has a quick release, isn’t shy about shooting and does solid work to get open for his shots unlike what we ended up getting from KCP. Andre’ Drummond faced an uphill bvattle from the moment he signed here. I’ll forever feel his better fit would have been the Knicks but he ended up here. After bumping Gasol and eventually Harrell out of the rotation, playing to form and not being able to make an impact on the playoffs it’s hard for some fans to see why the noise coming from the Lakers camp is so positive. If you factor in AD’s desire to play alongside a bonafide banger (one reason that, despite their success in NOLA that Boogie’s services were not retained due to his myriad of injuries), Drummond’s elite rebounding (which is legit) and the fact that he was expected to make an immediate impact without the benefit of camp there is hope that Dre’ can be a solid addition to the squad. The price point of said services being of course a serious issue for a team as cap strapped as we are.
    5. Coaches and front office. I’ll start off saying it’s easy for fans to cherry pick things like this. We get the benefit of hindsight. We get to make repercussion free observations, these guys do not. So to that end all of this should be taken with that grain of salt in mind. I think we all gave high marks to the front office early on, no grades lower than maybe a B/B+ by yours truly. I thought Gasol would have been a great add like 5 years ago. I was very high on Schroder. I though Wes would be more consistent with his shooting but he showed me a lot on D. I wouldn’t really change Rob’s grade and that includes not making a knee-jerk trade at midseason. I never saw Lowry as a savior, would have loved for us to get Normal Powell and I don’t think guys like Turner were available for a fair price and we’d have gutted the team to get him. It’s neither here nor there as the Lakers didn’t make a move to trade anyone and were content to improve via the buyout market. While we will never know how healthy Kyle Lowry truly was, if Powell was attainable or what reasons there were for the Lakers standing pat I can honestly say I would have liked to see us be more competitive in terms of signing some of the guards that came onto the buyout market (I’m looking at you, Reggie Jackson). In terms of our coach…I have to say I thought this was also a step-back season for Frank Vogel. Plenty of other teams sustained injuries to key players and they made adjustments or squeezed more out of role-players. I don’t want to lay this all at coach Vogel’s feet, we suffered ridiculously long injuries to our 2 best players which cannot be over-emphasized. But this was the 2nd season where more than one of the blog contributors openly wondered what offense we were running. If I could hope for one area of improvement from Vogel it would be in working on specific sets to get guys specific shots. We have shooters who I’m sure the staff has data on where they shoot best from. Let’s get better at maximizing those shots next season. The defensive side is solid, we need to juice the offense a little more since The King ain’t getting any younger. Grade: C+

    Overall, B-/C+ kinda season. Any season that doesn’t end with another banner is a season where expectations were not met but I would hardly characterize this as a lost season. We discovered that THT is NBA ready, that the Laker defense can be elite without AD and LBJ, that we need some more oompf in the scoring department. Above all we’re getting ample rest time for our best players. Reload and come out ready to rock.

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    • Thanks for this edition of the fiver, Jamie. I missed out on your last one, but glad you posted this one. I agree with your overall assessment of the team, the season and the grade level you dole out. I know some might give a worse grade, but I won’t blame them. Even though you stated that you wouldn’t characterize this season as a lost one I probably would look at it as a lost one mainly due to the injury bug that hit our players and derail our season.

      Yes, players will finally get the much needed time to rest before next next season, but I am still not able to get over how our season ended. Just not yet. The injury bug has caused a ton of lineup changes which in turn caused chemistry issues which also caused high turnover rates for the team. Trust me, my fear of the injury bug is developing into a phobia. If the solution is to go buy a pickaxe from the local hardware store and destroy this bug completely, I will go at it alone. That’s how mad I am right now. I am hoping that we don’t have to deal with this next season.

      I did not see any mention of Kyle Kuzma. I know you said you are not going to grade them individually, but I would add that the problem I see with Kuzma is that he is too unselfish to a fault which is why he’s inconsistent. He needs to learn how to be selfish sometimes by asserting himself offensively. There are times when I wish he should realize that his offensive output is needed even when LeBron and AD are in the game at the same time carrying the load. That will definitely elevate his status instead of just disappearing from game to game by focusing too much on little things he does. He should look to score more while still doing those little things. A Pippen-like caliber will certainly be welcomed.

      The main thing we need next season is good 3 point shooting. I am not happy with how bad we were with our outside shooting. The reason why the Atlanta Hawks are good this season is because they have plenty of shooters who are not afraid to shoot. And that applies to many of the teams currently in the playoffs.

      I am looking forward to more of your fivers next season. Thanks for all the hard work.

      • The grade fiver. Been antsy but Jamie is a fair grader that’s all you ask…

        • AD C- (I think his sluggish start had everything to do with only 6 1/2 weeks off…

        • lol, I try. Mitigating circumstances can only be considered so far. Yes, we were hurt but also true literally nobody stepped up. Dennis could have easily earned a huge payday if he had played a little more consistently (and I don’t doubt he tried), same for a lot of the guys entering free agency. Odd season…

      • Snap buba, good catch. Totally spaced on young master Kuzma. lol, Like Caruso I feel like his overall game treaded water this season. Came into his own in terms of rebounding, played pretty solid D, makes the pass to the open man but like a lot of Lakers I felt like he ended his season too shy to pull the trigger when the big moments came. C+

    • F- across the board.

      • That’s a very interesting point. AD didn’t look right from the start of the season. I am still scratching my head as to what he does in the offseason to prepare for the next season. I just hope it doesn’t happen again.

      • With the way the season ended I will take the F-.

    • My grades:

      LeBron James: B+
      Anthony Davis: B-

      Dennis Schroder: C
      Kentavious Caldwell-Pope: C-
      Andre Drummond: C-

      Kyle Kuzma: C
      Alex Caruso: B-
      Wesley Matthews: C+
      Markieff Morris: C-
      Marc Gasol: C+
      Montrezl Harrell: C-
      Talen Horton-Tucker: C+
      Ben McLemore: C

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    Color me astounded if Trezz opts in...

    If he opts in it means nobody wants a 15-20 ppg threat off the bench who plays with heart and energy. Nah, nobody wants that in the NBA… Feels extremely likely that he was who ‘Kieff was talking about in his exit interview and this is Trezz (not so) subtly firing back.

    Sorry DJ, feels like he’s on his way out.

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    • Harrell has a beef, BTW. This is where I definitely agree with LakerTom in regards to the Drummond arrival mucking up rotations and forcing Frank to re-work everything 3/4 of the way in. Harrell also was never up to the task defensively but that wasn’t news when we signed him, Frank and Co. rarely found a good way to utilize the former 6MotY and that’s on them as much as it’s on him. The dude is a talent, just needs the right situation. I highly doubt he’ll find it in LA.

      Drummond may be the better player, in theory, but the waves his signing caused tipped the little boat that was our season. So, if he does come back, tan we better see some genius-level rotations with him, AD and LBJ on the floor. Otherwise this will be a ridiculous farce. Trezz had the benefit of a whole camp and season, was healthy and look what that got him?

    • I don’t think there’s much need to worry either way.

      • He got dissed again he’s not returning good on him

      • It does create issues in terms of being able to bring back impact talent given the cap space and tools we’ll have available. Hard to find instant impact guys off the bench like Harrell, whatever his ancillary issues may be. Not saying he was a perfect fit (obviously was not) but anyone who opts out is taking a low cost player away from a team that won’t be able to add many more given the cap constraints we’ll face.

        It’s one reason we may hold onto Alonzo.

    • Myles Turner with Trezz backup.

    • Ya, but with him benched we did win and move to second round though! Drum and Gasol dominated!

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