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    Which means basically for a year, or whenever draft day is next summer. No surprise here, Jazz brass (Trader Danny) never really “dangled” LM, they just never said he was off limits. If you play for a team with Ainge as the GM you should probably know, or gain the knowledge, that any player can be had…for the right over-prince.

    When that deal didn’t emerge this was the smartest path. Lock him up for 5 years, $238 mil and start building. After this season, depending on how he actually plays (and how much) it will be interesting to see what his market is. $40+ mil for a guy who hasn’t even taken a team to the playoffs is steep. Even LaVine has at least been the key player on playoff rosters. Yes, he’s technically an All-Star…once. So this should be interesting to see unfold.

    What doesn’t change is how far under the minimum salary floor the Jazz or that they need to sign at least 2 players in order to meet the minimum roster requirements. Still something brewing over there just hard to discern what it could be.

    Lauri Markkanen off the table for 6 months

    Which means basically for a year, or whenever draft day is next summer. No surprise here, Jazz brass (Trader Danny) never really “dangled” LM, they just never said he was off limits. If you play for a team with Ainge as the GM you should probably know, or gain the knowledge, that any player can be had…for the right over-prince.

    When that deal didn’t emerge this was the smartest path. Lock him up for 5 years, $238 mil and start building. After this season, depending on how he actually plays (and how much) it will be interesting to see what his market is. $40+ mil for a guy who hasn’t even taken a team to the playoffs is steep. Even LaVine has at least been the key player on playoff rosters. Yes, he’s technically an All-Star…once. So this should be interesting to see unfold.

    What doesn’t change is how far under the minimum salary floor the Jazz or that they need to sign at least 2 players in order to meet the minimum roster requirements. Still something brewing over there just hard to discern what it could be.

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    • Actually Jamie, they actually were allowed to add 24 mil to this years contract so the Jazz are now over the floor. They still need to add 3 players though.

      • GTK, thanks Michael!

        • I am left with bad feelings. The Lakers’ overall inactivity during the offseason raised my eyebrows initially, but then the painful sting took over. As a fan, I am worried that missed opportunities may come back to haunt the team in the 2024-25 season.
          I am fully invested in their performance, so the inaction worsened things for me. Let’s hope for a successful season ahead!

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    On our podcast over the weekend the topic of the salary floor came up. I nonchalantly asked the panel if anyone knew what the penalty for not meeting said floor was since I had no clue. LT confidently said, “they just pay the excess into a fund that goes to the league office.” which seemed kind of sensible enough and so I left it at that.

    The way my brain works has always been funny, even to me. I generally don’t stop and think about something, it’s more like a kitchen with 8 or 9 dishes in various stages of completion. Throughout the day my mind drifted back to LT’s answer, mainly because the more I thought about it the more it felt out of line with Adam Silver’s campaign to even out competitive balance. The penalties for over-spending felt extremely harsh when compared to “and if you don’t spend enough, just send us a check and we’ll throw ourselves a pizza party!”

    So today on my lunch break I did my own research and found that the answer provided to me was incorrect. The penalties for not meeting the NBA minimum salary floor are almost as extreme as pushing past the second apron. I don’t post this just to zing LT, that’s a semi-amusing side effect, at best. I post this because it affects a lot of what could happen in the next month or so. SO here it is, at long last, the not asked for at all rules on the NBA Minimum Salary Floor!!!!!

    -Beginning in 2024/25, a team whose salary is below the minimum floor at the start of the regular season won’t receive a share of the end-of-season luxury tax payouts. (last season it was just 50%, this is important because small market owners absolutely rely on this windfall to turn a profit)

    -A team whose salary is below the minimum floor at the start of the season will have a cap hold added to its salary in order to reach the minimum floor. For instance, a team with a $117,418,000 salary on opening night in 2023/24 would have a $5MM cap hold added to its salary to reach the $122,418,000 floor and would be unable to immediately access that $5MM of cap room. (For Utah that would be a whopping $21, 983, 000+ million dollar cap hold!)

    -A team that begins the season below the floor cannot reduce the shortfall amount it will owe at the end of the season by spending on player salaries during the season. For example, a team that starts the season $5MM below the floor would owe no less than $5MM at the end of the season. The shortfall amount that club owes could increase if its team salary dips further than $5MM below the floor by the end of the season.

    So not only would Utah owe nearly $22 mil in league payments they would be denied any payments from the luxury tax pool in addition to having a cap hold imposed on them throughout the season making it more difficult to swing a massive trade or sign someone who is waived. That is nothing to sneeze at folks. Especially for a small market team like the Jazz who aren’t selling out the arena, aren’t the benefactors of a mega local cable market and are one of the more fiscally responsible teams out there.

    Now it is possible they could take a one-season hit. After all, Ryan Smith’s net worth is 2.2 billion. It’s just hard for me to see a guy who knows how money works simply throw money away or sacrifice his GM’s team building flexibility.

    All of this is to say I expect the Jazz to be involved in some kind of deal where they absorb salary for the cost of a couple picks, maybe even a 1st rounder or 2 . The are plenty of (Zach LaVine) contracts out there that a team would be happy (Zach LaVine) to move (Zach) for a draft pick without taking back more than one (LaVine) player (Zach LaVine). Maybe Zach LaVine…? They can send out my man Jordan Clarkson and balance out the roster and sign some decent talent from the Olympics. It’d be great to see Wenyan get back into the NBA or something like that.

    NBA Minimum Salary Floor

    On our podcast over the weekend the topic of the salary floor came up. I nonchalantly asked the panel if anyone knew what the penalty for not meeting said floor was since I had no clue. LT confidently said, “they just pay the excess into a fund that goes to the league office.” which seemed kind of sensible enough and so I left it at that.

    The way my brain works has always been funny, even to me. I generally don’t stop and think about something, it’s more like a kitchen with 8 or 9 dishes in various stages of completion. Throughout the day my mind drifted back to LT’s answer, mainly because the more I thought about it the more it felt out of line with Adam Silver’s campaign to even out competitive balance. The penalties for over-spending felt extremely harsh when compared to “and if you don’t spend enough, just send us a check and we’ll throw ourselves a pizza party!”

    So today on my lunch break I did my own research and found that the answer provided to me was incorrect. The penalties for not meeting the NBA minimum salary floor are almost as extreme as pushing past the second apron. I don’t post this just to zing LT, that’s a semi-amusing side effect, at best. I post this because it affects a lot of what could happen in the next month or so. SO here it is, at long last, the not asked for at all rules on the NBA Minimum Salary Floor!!!!!

    -Beginning in 2024/25, a team whose salary is below the minimum floor at the start of the regular season won’t receive a share of the end-of-season luxury tax payouts. (last season it was just 50%, this is important because small market owners absolutely rely on this windfall to turn a profit)

    -A team whose salary is below the minimum floor at the start of the season will have a cap hold added to its salary in order to reach the minimum floor. For instance, a team with a $117,418,000 salary on opening night in 2023/24 would have a $5MM cap hold added to its salary to reach the $122,418,000 floor and would be unable to immediately access that $5MM of cap room. (For Utah that would be a whopping $21, 983, 000+ million dollar cap hold!)

    -A team that begins the season below the floor cannot reduce the shortfall amount it will owe at the end of the season by spending on player salaries during the season. For example, a team that starts the season $5MM below the floor would owe no less than $5MM at the end of the season. The shortfall amount that club owes could increase if its team salary dips further than $5MM below the floor by the end of the season.

    So not only would Utah owe nearly $22 mil in league payments they would be denied any payments from the luxury tax pool in addition to having a cap hold imposed on them throughout the season making it more difficult to swing a massive trade or sign someone who is waived. That is nothing to sneeze at folks. Especially for a small market team like the Jazz who aren’t selling out the arena, aren’t the benefactors of a mega local cable market and are one of the more fiscally responsible teams out there.

    Now it is possible they could take a one-season hit. After all, Ryan Smith’s net worth is 2.2 billion. It’s just hard for me to see a guy who knows how money works simply throw money away or sacrifice his GM’s team building flexibility.

    All of this is to say I expect the Jazz to be involved in some kind of deal where they absorb salary for the cost of a couple picks, maybe even a 1st rounder or 2 . The are plenty of (Zach LaVine) contracts out there that a team would be happy (Zach LaVine) to move (Zach) for a draft pick without taking back more than one (LaVine) player (Zach LaVine). Maybe Zach LaVine…? They can send out my man Jordan Clarkson and balance out the roster and sign some decent talent from the Olympics. It’d be great to see Wenyan get back into the NBA or something like that.

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    Well, at least we didn’t lose Cam Reddish! Rob has been utterly out GM’d this summer by the entire Association. Putting a lotta eggs in the “better health/no regression” baskets. We’ll see how that works out. Seems like getting Tyus for the cost of moving Cam via a 2nd rounder would have been worth it given our seeming intent to trade DLo and Vincent’s health concerns coupled with Reaves being only decent at running the point. But what do I know?

    Suns Got Jones for the vet min...WTF

    Well, at least we didn’t lose Cam Reddish! Rob has been utterly out GM’d this summer by the entire Association. Putting a lotta eggs in the “better health/no regression” baskets. We’ll see how that works out. Seems like getting Tyus for the cost of moving Cam via a 2nd rounder would have been worth it given our seeming intent to trade DLo and Vincent’s health concerns coupled with Reaves being only decent at running the point. But what do I know?

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    • There’s a point where Jeanie has to see Rob Pelinka has to go. The indecision and lack of confidence has paralyzed our front office.

      • I’m going to give Robb a pass. I’m sure he tried to move some guys. But this is a brave new NBA world. The Nuggets had to send 3 2nd round picks for the Hornets to take Reggie Jackson. The Lakers only have 4 2nd round picks. The few sellers are trying to cash in with over pricing players, knowing there isn’t much inventory out there. I have been critical of Robb for years but I don’t see this as his fault.

        • I’m assuming brave is in the sarcasm font? Not disagreeing but the fact is Max Christie’s market was not sooooo scorching he needed to be the first move. Speaking of Max I can think of 3 players off the top of my head who I’d have used the MLE his deal would have opened up. Jones, Trent Jr. or Drummond. I’d have even preferred keeping Dinwiddie. But we had to rectify Rob’s mistake of only signing him to a 2 year rookie deal. Feel free to be critical, he’s earned it.

          • Remember Jamie Robb could only sign him for 2 years without giving him MLE money. Thats changed now and it’s act called the Pelinka rule.

            • Well that tracks, he basically was our MLE this summer.

            • All I’m saying is we dictated Max’s value, not the market. This in turn forced us into begging at the ATM of LeBeon to take massive pay cut to engage the TPMLE since I honestly never bought into him taking a $20+ mil cut. Based on the market for proven commodities like Jones and Trent Jr. it’s real hard for me to see Max getting what he got on the open market. I’d take the MLE over Max. He could be a good player but he has a lot of growth to do to live up that deal based on our actual roster needs. He’s the 4th…maybe 5th…guard in the rotation behind DLo, Reaves, Vincent and maybe even DK. I’m just not seeing the logic.

              I called running back a couple months ago and nothing has changed that opinion but that doesn’t mean I won’t be astounded by illogic as I have been thus far. All I can come up with is that FO planned for or more of Wood. Hayes, and Cam to walk. That’s a bad plan when they’re your margin for error.

    • Well, the “well” can’t be drier than this. Just about every player I had in my mind is gone. Nothing for me to be excited about this off-season.

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    Reality begins to set in for the click bait crowd. Took ’em long enough…

    Utah won’t be trading LM unless it’s for a “can’t refuse offer”. Unlikely the Lakers have one they can offer, if they even wanted to in the first place. Also it’s unlikely most teams see that as doing good business when they’d have to turn around and pay him a ton of money for what was essentially one good season. He could just as easily be the next BI where he does well enough on a bad team but either can’t stay on the floor or can’t win at the playoff level. Or both, since he hasn’t managed to get there on Utah.

    Chicago “resigned” to starting the season with LaVine. So much for getting draft picks for taking him on? Honestly, Chicago might as well wait and try and rehab his value. They have this odd belief they’re on the cusp of contending. Which I don’t get at all.

    Speaking of Mr. Ingram, BI likely to stay in NOLA. Again, not surprising. He took a step back and nobody is probably excited to offer him a multi year max contract and/or send NOLA the haul they likely feel entitled to for him in a trade. Might as well hold onto your picks and let the market dictate his value next summer.

    Welcome to the new CBA, folks. Big contracts for under-performing players are the new albatross in ways we can only imagine to actual GMs. It’s funny when the league signs an incredibly profitable deal and the players probably won’t see the half of it in terms of salaries simply because they agreed to a max 10% cap growth every season. 15-20% probably would have made more sense.

    Also, shout out to whomever owns TNT for suing the league when they rejected the match. Hard for Silver to arbitrate the oddity that is the Timberwolves not selling to the A-Rod group now since this is, basically, the same thing.

    Gotta love the dog days man…

    Rumor Mill Hilarity!

    Reality begins to set in for the click bait crowd. Took ’em long enough…

    Utah won’t be trading LM unless it’s for a “can’t refuse offer”. Unlikely the Lakers have one they can offer, if they even wanted to in the first place. Also it’s unlikely most teams see that as doing good business when they’d have to turn around and pay him a ton of money for what was essentially one good season. He could just as easily be the next BI where he does well enough on a bad team but either can’t stay on the floor or can’t win at the playoff level. Or both, since he hasn’t managed to get there on Utah.

    Chicago “resigned” to starting the season with LaVine. So much for getting draft picks for taking him on? Honestly, Chicago might as well wait and try and rehab his value. They have this odd belief they’re on the cusp of contending. Which I don’t get at all.

    Speaking of Mr. Ingram, BI likely to stay in NOLA. Again, not surprising. He took a step back and nobody is probably excited to offer him a multi year max contract and/or send NOLA the haul they likely feel entitled to for him in a trade. Might as well hold onto your picks and let the market dictate his value next summer.

    Welcome to the new CBA, folks. Big contracts for under-performing players are the new albatross in ways we can only imagine to actual GMs. It’s funny when the league signs an incredibly profitable deal and the players probably won’t see the half of it in terms of salaries simply because they agreed to a max 10% cap growth every season. 15-20% probably would have made more sense.

    Also, shout out to whomever owns TNT for suing the league when they rejected the match. Hard for Silver to arbitrate the oddity that is the Timberwolves not selling to the A-Rod group now since this is, basically, the same thing.

    Gotta love the dog days man…

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    • Oh, I almost forgot. Super awesome Laker “insider” Mr. Buha confirms that the Lakers have been shopping DLo with nary a taker in sight. Awesome. Like LaVine I’d cut that off at the knees, publicly declare the roster is fine as-is and sorry coach but we couldn’t lure Shaq out of retirement to be your bruising center and focus on February.

      • At least media day will be interesting. “Hey DLo, what’s your reaction to the Lakers shopping you all summer and nobody biting?” (DLo drops mic and walks away)

        • The good news Jamie is the Lakers have resisted going after the names that are out there. It’s funny, the Trailblazers were criticized for giving Jabari Grant that big 5 year contract. Then Dame leaves and that contract becomes even worse. There was speculation that the Blazers would have pay to get out of it. Enter the Lakers and they suddenly want 2 first picks along with the 3 contracts it would take. Two of those would be good players they could flip. In essence they want lakers to pay to get out of a crummy contract. Teams have been trying to screw what’s perceived as a desperate lakers team. Kudos to Rob for not doing something stupid like he did with Russ. It’s best to see what the team looks like after a couple of months.

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    5 Things: On the Human Glacier Known as Rob Pelinka.

    Honestly, that might be unfair to glaciers. I think they move faster than Rob does. If you’re like me and thought we’d basically run it back this summer has come as no surprise. If you were hoping for some whiz-bang trade action I think we color you disappointed right now…but maybe not in a few months. In the end, there are some clear methods to Rob’s madness and that’s what I want to get into today.

    1. My personal take on the methodology of Rob Pelinka specifically in-season trades. Rob’s been the GM since February 2017 and the President/GM since January 2020. So we have some empirical evidence to go on. In that time Rob has made exactly 3 in-season trades when Magic was his boss and 2 when he was his own boss. In February 2018 (when Magic was still the President and possibly pushed for this because it’s so obviously a very bad trade) for Jordan Clarkson and Larry Nance Jr to the Cavaliers for Isaiah Thomas, Channing Fry, and a 2018 first-round pick (Moritz Wagner). The following season he traded Svi Mykhailiuk and a 2021 2nd rounder for Reggie Bullock, who signed elsewhere after the season when he was awful for us. He followed that one up by trading Zubac and the walking corpse of Michael Beasley to the Clippers for Mike Muscala who, like Bullock, simply walked. basically Russ for a good chunk of the current team. Those were all when Magic was his boss and so could, in theory, have been driven by Earvin and his desire to surround LeBron with better shooting and less young guys, we just always picked the wrong guys and/or under-valued superior talent in Zubac. As his own boss Rob waited until 2022 to make an in-season trade the first one being Kendrick Nunn and 3 second rounders (2023, 2028, & 2029) for Rui Hachimura. In hindsight, when placed against the backdrop of the new CBA, that’s a fair deal. Those 2nd rounders are more valuable in the modern era. He followed that up by erasing his summer trade 2 season prior for Westbrook in a 3 team deal that ultimately netted us 2 rotation players in Dlo and Vando, along with Malik Beasley who suffered the same fate as all shooting role-players and signed elsewhere the following summer.
    2. Rob and his off-season trades. There are quite a few more of these to analyze, but not as many as some probably hope. The first one of those was a fairly unremarkable deal, swapping the 2019 2nd rounder for the 2018+cash from us which turned out to be Bonga who is out of the league. The 2019 second rounder that was picked by Washington was the similarly unremarkable Bruno Fernando (also out of the league, I believe). What was interesting about that deal was that we also sent out money. This in and of itself isn’t awful; however, it does set the stage for the reality that nobody deals with Rob on the up and up, an issue that plagues us still to this day. The following summer he basically repeated that deal trading a 2020 second rounder (ended up being Paul Reed) plus cash for a 2019 second rounder which turned out to be THT. This trade viewed specifically at this moment isn’t a bad one. This trade when viewed through the lens of THT is now all but out of the league and we chose him over Caruso is one of the worst in Lakers history. That same summer we traded everyone for AD, a solid (if not surprising at all) move. You can nitpick about the inclusion of so many draft picks but this was one of those deals Rob saw the guy he wanted and het the ask to get it done. After we won it all with AD in The Bubble Rob started on his curious quest of Dismantling A Title Winning Team for Inferior Players Because…Well…Just Because. It’s a quest that continues to this day with trades for Danny Green AND the 2020 1st round pick that ended being Jaden McDaniels for Dennis Schroeder who twice was a Laker for a single season and never retained. That was followed by trading JaVale McGee for Alfonso McKinnie and Jordan Bell…and our 2026 second rounder. Bell was waived, McKinnie never played and so, yeah, awesome. The following summer was when traded everyone for Russ and we’re still digging ourselves out from that one, too. There was also the Gasol for Wang Zhelin trade which basically gave Marc his salary but put him back in Memphis where he belonged to end his career, the Rondo to the Cavs for a bunch of guys who never played in 2022 followed by trading THT scant months after choosing him over Caruso for Pat Bev…who is now out of the league…and we’re where we are now.
    3. Learning the hard lesson of what a pick’s true value is. Go back through those trades and we send out a lot of picks while only getting players back and the talent difference is generally minimal. The cost to pay to play for Rob as a GM/Pres seems like he starts at an overpay and then has to go even higher. So with this in mind, and seeing how many of the draft picks we sent out ended up being quality players we’d like to have now, it makes more sense to see Rob a little more hesitant to pull the trigger this summer. For all we know he may or may not have the greenlight to make a deal on his own. he himself has spoken on his preference to run the team in a parliamentary style that includes Jeannie, the Rambii, and some of the Buss kids. That’s a difficult environment to get anything done in, especially when free agency now moves so quickly. If anything were to change that doesn’t include Rob being fired it’s that I would like to see that process streamlined.
    4. Rob’s grades in trades past. Honestly, if it weren’t for the AD trade, I’d give Rob a D minus as a GM when it comes to making trades. Some will point to how we got out of the Russell Westbrook situation but that was of his own creation. A strong GM doesn’t cow to his players because they want something, they analyze the cost, look at how it could (or in this case couldn’t) work and move forward. The AD trade and the roster that he and Magic built leading up to that season won a title. Since then, on his own, Rob has done nothing but mostly choose the wrong players to retain or trade for. Keeping Dlo, Vando, Rui and Austin on decent, fairly tradeable deals might push it to a D+. It’s just that Rob seems overly concerned with keeping players paid and happy and less so in building an effective team.
    5. All quiet on the western front. I personally give Rob a C+ for dealing with this summer the way he did. Once Reddish, Hayes and Wood all opted in it meant we had to pay the cost of moving a player to add a player. That doesn’t make a ton of sense given how many picks of ours are still pending, especially second rounders over the next 5 years. I wish he had been able to somehow convince James to take a $10 million pay cut and open up the taxpayer MLE. That would have been available if any two of the player option dudes had opted out, as well, but that’s not something Rob has control over and we’re seeing better players than those guys taking a lot less on the open market so their agents did solid by them and gave them good advice. Nothing to be done there and LeBron sacrificing $10 million for Tyus Jones or Gary Trent Jr. always sounded like a long shot to me. There might be more action once the Jazz extend Markkanen in a week or so but I don’t think we’ll see much else going down. Guys like Jones, THT and other specialist or low-grade talent will likely have to play overseas if they don’t want to play for the vet minimum on a non-contender. Pat Bev already chose that route.

    All in all, I have long considered Rob the weakest link. he gives bad rosters too long, good coaches too little and generally never accepts blame for the errors in judgement he’s made.

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    Loved the moxie the team showed tonight. Young guys really battled and I like the slight change in attack, fewer threes (weren’t winning chucking anyhow) and pretty decent (for summer league) D.

    Nice Win

    Loved the moxie the team showed tonight. Young guys really battled and I like the slight change in attack, fewer threes (weren’t winning chucking anyhow) and pretty decent (for summer league) D.

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    Might be the best fit for him if his goal is to win a ring, could end up starting which is important to him. Takes a lotta pressure of Jokic and Murray in the first 3 quarters. Would be surprised if he ended up anywhere else.

    Russ likely headed to Denver

    Might be the best fit for him if his goal is to win a ring, could end up starting which is important to him. Takes a lotta pressure of Jokic and Murray in the first 3 quarters. Would be surprised if he ended up anywhere else.

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    • Nice move by the Clippers to flip Russ for Dunn.

      • Wish Frank was running our FO…only move I’d second guess is choosing Harden over George. Lowballing PG never made much sense but it’s not like the new CBA just punishes with Ballmer money, punishes the team.

        • Frank has done a great job with Clippers.
          Seems to always make great moves.
          Unlike Rob Pelinka, who always has excuse.

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    After listening to Tom tell me how bananas I was for suggesting quality NBA players may not sign for the vet minimum but rather play for a lot more money overseas (and how that idea was stupid, I believe, his words lol) today we see that Pat Bev is considering playing overseas for a lot more money than the vet minimum.

    Wow. How surprised am I? Zero, it doesn’t take a genius to understand (or I dunno, maybe it does and I’m a genius?) that these guys aren’t video game trade chips that just do whatever you want or tell them to do in your mind. They have a tremendous amount of pride, they have a small window to earn money playing a game, most of them aren’t all that worried about where the paycheck comes from. They do worry about the size.

    So if you want to keep playing with other people’s money, feel free. It’s never really been a game that interests me. These guys will find paydays and some agents might get fired. The NBA free agency is like an ever more dangerous game of musical chairs. Money that was on the table 10 minutes ago is gone now, you sat too slowly.

    I don’t believe Pat Bev will be the exception, I think that, at this point in the summer and seeing how most teams have zipped up the cap space, you can either choose the Schroeder Route (play overseas, rehab value, get in earlier the following summer, maybe do well in FIBA if at all possible).

    La Melo played overseas rather college or the G-League. There is money to be made and no salary cap to strop you from maximizing what you believe your worth top be. You can play in a vacation destination like Spain or Australia all while playing a decent role for the game you love. Heck, you might be the “star” of the team.

    This is the flip side of globalization, that good players aren’t forced to play for pennies. They do have options.

    Patrick Beverley Weighing 'Historic' European Contract amid NBA Free Agency Offers

    Well that didn't take long...

    After listening to Tom tell me how bananas I was for suggesting quality NBA players may not sign for the vet minimum but rather play for a lot more money overseas (and how that idea was stupid, I believe, his words lol) today we see that Pat Bev is considering playing overseas for a lot more money than the vet minimum.

    Wow. How surprised am I? Zero, it doesn’t take a genius to understand (or I dunno, maybe it does and I’m a genius?) that these guys aren’t video game trade chips that just do whatever you want or tell them to do in your mind. They have a tremendous amount of pride, they have a small window to earn money playing a game, most of them aren’t all that worried about where the paycheck comes from. They do worry about the size.

    So if you want to keep playing with other people’s money, feel free. It’s never really been a game that interests me. These guys will find paydays and some agents might get fired. The NBA free agency is like an ever more dangerous game of musical chairs. Money that was on the table 10 minutes ago is gone now, you sat too slowly.

    I don’t believe Pat Bev will be the exception, I think that, at this point in the summer and seeing how most teams have zipped up the cap space, you can either choose the Schroeder Route (play overseas, rehab value, get in earlier the following summer, maybe do well in FIBA if at all possible).

    La Melo played overseas rather college or the G-League. There is money to be made and no salary cap to strop you from maximizing what you believe your worth top be. You can play in a vacation destination like Spain or Australia all while playing a decent role for the game you love. Heck, you might be the “star” of the team.

    This is the flip side of globalization, that good players aren’t forced to play for pennies. They do have options.

    Patrick Beverley Weighing 'Historic' European Contract amid NBA Free Agency Offers

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    • Jamie, while you’re right about players going for what’s best for them money wise, what would one make of Jalen Brunson taking a substantial pay cut for the Knicks? Could it be that the possibility of a major injury played a role in his decision? 113 million is a lot of money to leave on the table.

      • For 9 out of 10 guys who take this route, Jamie, it’s a one-way ticket out of the NBA. My point is guys who still have game want to play in the NBA, not overseas. They do that when they have no other option. Pat Beverley has played his last game in the association imo.

      • He wants to win and he wants to win now, IMO. I never begrudge a player for taking the most coin that they can. It always cracks me up when other people say “so and so will take less…for the team!” When the team is likely actively engaged in trying to trade that guy. That’s why the phrase “it’s a business” always rings the most true. To me, anyhow.

    • I think folks have alotta misconceptions about pro athletes. I have a few friends & fam who were marginal pros (nobody you’d probably know) and they’ll all tell you that most dudes aren’t trying to be Kobe & Brady. They know they have an extremely limited shelf life and that most careers are over before they hit 30 years of age. Guys in that situation are trying to get paid while they still can and leave with a decent nestegg to start the next stage of life that’ll be substantially longer than their playing careers. We ain’t talking about generational wealth here. Ideally you’d want to spend as much time in the NBA as possible but sometimes it just doesn’t work out that way and you do what you gotta do. The shifting CBA rules don’t make it any easier either.

      It’s actually alot like any other workplace; you’ve got a small percentage who really give a sh!t and want to move up into management & above. You’ve got another small percentage who are truly no good at their job but do the bare minimum to keep from getting fired. Then you have the vast majority who just wanna do their best, get paid on Friday, and go home. But that kinda ruins the illusion that everybody will spill blood for a ring.

      I was talking with my niece’s fiance a coupla weeks ago who tried for about 3 years to make it to the NBA but could never quite catch on. Got an offer to play in Turkey that paid him way more than he woulda made on a minimum NBA contract. Also paid for just about all his living expenses. Spent 5 years there and the only thing he regrets is that he didn’t do it sooner. Everything ain’t for everybody…..

    • I think with this lousy, top-heavy CBA we’ll see more on-the-fringes guys going for overseas paydays. Guys at the tail end like Pat Bev would find themselves winding down their careers overseas before this abomination of a CBA cut them off at the knees, so it’s not at all surprising to see him take one last stab at it over there.

    • Fun stuff! Looks like Cam Payne is signing 1 year vet minimum deal. GTJ is signing a 1 year, no deets, yet.

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    Barring a sign and trade for Rui or Vincent (highly unlikely at this point, IMO, for various reasons I don’t feel like espousing on right now) we’re looking at salary dumping one of our 3 vet minimum players and using the vet minimum to bring in one guy, maybe 2. That’s the last “move” left for the summer in the realm of reality.

    Gary Trent Jr. would be at the absolute top of my list, hard to see him playing for so little money as the vet minimum, or even the TPMLE for him at this point. Since we know the non TPMLE is off the table (I think for the entire league as it stands today) my guess is he signs with a contender that offers him the best role. Even then I’m not sure we’re the best fit. Yes, we’d love to have his shooting and at 25 he still falls into the “developing” category but what minutes exist for him if one assumes Reaves, Vincent, JV and Rui are all going to see 20+ mpg? Add in getting Knecht some run and seeing GT in purple and gold seems elusive, at best.

    …THT. No. Hell no.

    Big men like Bamba and Biyombo honestly feel like we’re just swapping mediocre for mediocre, might as well just keep Woods and/or Hayes, honestly. Same goes for Reddish and trying to get Precious or Bey or any number of rangy dudes who are sort of high energy but can’t really put it all together in a meaningful way on the pro court.

    Spencer Dinwiddie makes the most sense as he played decently last season but I bet he’s hoping some kind of money opens up for him above the vet min (see Trent Jr. above).

    Lonnie Walker 2.0? Again, is this much of an upgrade over Cam? Maybe a small one.

    Cam Payne, Fultz, Wagner, the Morris twins, all of these names are, well, pretty uninspiring and, as such is the case, I expect the Lakers to run it back. As is.

    Other Moves? Uhhhh.....welllll....in a word...unlikely.

    Barring a sign and trade for Rui or Vincent (highly unlikely at this point, IMO, for various reasons I don’t feel like espousing on right now) we’re looking at salary dumping one of our 3 vet minimum players and using the vet minimum to bring in one guy, maybe 2. That’s the last “move” left for the summer in the realm of reality.

    Gary Trent Jr. would be at the absolute top of my list, hard to see him playing for so little money as the vet minimum, or even the TPMLE for him at this point. Since we know the non TPMLE is off the table (I think for the entire league as it stands today) my guess is he signs with a contender that offers him the best role. Even then I’m not sure we’re the best fit. Yes, we’d love to have his shooting and at 25 he still falls into the “developing” category but what minutes exist for him if one assumes Reaves, Vincent, JV and Rui are all going to see 20+ mpg? Add in getting Knecht some run and seeing GT in purple and gold seems elusive, at best.

    …THT. No. Hell no.

    Big men like Bamba and Biyombo honestly feel like we’re just swapping mediocre for mediocre, might as well just keep Woods and/or Hayes, honestly. Same goes for Reddish and trying to get Precious or Bey or any number of rangy dudes who are sort of high energy but can’t really put it all together in a meaningful way on the pro court.

    Spencer Dinwiddie makes the most sense as he played decently last season but I bet he’s hoping some kind of money opens up for him above the vet min (see Trent Jr. above).

    Lonnie Walker 2.0? Again, is this much of an upgrade over Cam? Maybe a small one.

    Cam Payne, Fultz, Wagner, the Morris twins, all of these names are, well, pretty uninspiring and, as such is the case, I expect the Lakers to run it back. As is.

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    It would take DLO and Rui and probably at least 2 unprotected FRPs. Maybe some more swaps. BI likely looking for the max extension which, between Bron, AD and that deal ($60 something mil).

    Anyhoo, I am of the opinion we are probably either a few ponies short, would balk at the price of that odd-fitting trio, the optics of giving up as much for BI as we did AD, the difficulty of building a decent team once we rocket past the 2nd apron just to keep Reaves or any number of logical reasons why we wouldn’t make that deal but it’s the dog days and I’m bored.

    Do We Have the Ponies for a BI trade?

    It would take DLO and Rui and probably at least 2 unprotected FRPs. Maybe some more swaps. BI likely looking for the max extension which, between Bron, AD and that deal ($60 something mil).

    Anyhoo, I am of the opinion we are probably either a few ponies short, would balk at the price of that odd-fitting trio, the optics of giving up as much for BI as we did AD, the difficulty of building a decent team once we rocket past the 2nd apron just to keep Reaves or any number of logical reasons why we wouldn’t make that deal but it’s the dog days and I’m bored.

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    • He’s on a max contract, looking for a crazy max extension. He’s not worth either, doesn’t really move the needle. In the new second apron era, I think he’s looking more at a Derozan type deal than a max but maybe that’s just me. Not a winning player, nor particularly durable. No way to build a contender with a guy like that being your 3rd earning 40mm+ with the new restrictions. Based on the lack of movement by the Lakers, I think they realize there’s no building a contender with 3 max guys these days.

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    Source NBA.com:

    The National Basketball Association today announced that the Salary Cap has been set at $140.588 million for the 2024-25 season. The Tax Level for the 2024‑25 season is $170.814 million.

    The Salary Cap and Tax Level go into effect at 12:01 a.m. ET on Monday, July 1. Teams are permitted to begin negotiating with free agents today at 6:00 p.m. ET — six hours prior to the start of the league’s “moratorium period.” The moratorium period ends at noon ET on Saturday, July 6.

    The Minimum Team Salary is $126.529 million for the 2024-25 season.
    The First Apron Level is $178.132 million for the 2024-25 season.
    The Second Apron Level is $188.931 million for the 2024-25 season.
    The Collective Bargaining Agreement provides for three different Mid-Level Exceptions depending on a team’s salary level. The Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level for the 2024-25 season is $12.822 million, the Taxpayer Mid-Level is $5.168 million, and the Mid-Level for a team with room under the Salary Cap is $7.983 million.

    Okee dokee, so as I understand it, we currently have access to the taxpayer MLE because we are over the 1st apron but under the 2nd. The taxpayer mid-level exception belongs to teams who are above the salary cap and in the first luxury tax apron. Teams above the second apron do not have a mid-level exception. The non-taxpayer mid-level exception belongs to teams who are over the salary cap but not in the first luxury tax apron.

    Currently we’re over the 1st apron and about $10 mil under the 2nd so we can use the $5.168 million MLE to sign anyone…if we cut someone since we’re at the maximum roster size. This is because of the cap hits for LeBron, Prince. We could renounce whatever rights we have but I doubt that’s happening.

    To gain access to the NTPMLE, worth $12.822 million, we’d need to be above $140.588 but still end up UNDER $170.814 million after we use it, you can’t use that and punch your way into the tax area…which isn’t an actual apron…which makes all of this a lot harder.

    If you get all the way under the salary cap itself but above the minimum salary you, are some reason, kind of penalized and I think you only get access to the Room Exception which is the one worth $7.983 mil.

    We haven’t even factored in Bronny or Knecht yet, either, right? I’m not 100% sure but I think works out to adding roughly $4.9 mil in added salary on top of the already guaranteed money and the cap holds worth mentioning. If I’m not crazy…no guarantee…that leaves us at $170,229 million in guaranteed salary. So LeBron would have to take a pretty hefty pay cut to keep the salary under $170.814 million and have the room to use the full exception. I believe roughly $20 mil

    I am not a cap expert, by any means so please feel free to double-check my math lol. One thing I’m 100% certain of is that somebody needs to be cut in order to free up a physical roster space. That $$$ still counts against the salary cap, it only opens up a roster spot.

    Ooops. My brain just exploded.

    CBA 101 from a non-expert

    Source NBA.com:

    The National Basketball Association today announced that the Salary Cap has been set at $140.588 million for the 2024-25 season. The Tax Level for the 2024‑25 season is $170.814 million.

    The Salary Cap and Tax Level go into effect at 12:01 a.m. ET on Monday, July 1. Teams are permitted to begin negotiating with free agents today at 6:00 p.m. ET — six hours prior to the start of the league’s “moratorium period.” The moratorium period ends at noon ET on Saturday, July 6.

    The Minimum Team Salary is $126.529 million for the 2024-25 season.
    The First Apron Level is $178.132 million for the 2024-25 season.
    The Second Apron Level is $188.931 million for the 2024-25 season.
    The Collective Bargaining Agreement provides for three different Mid-Level Exceptions depending on a team’s salary level. The Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level for the 2024-25 season is $12.822 million, the Taxpayer Mid-Level is $5.168 million, and the Mid-Level for a team with room under the Salary Cap is $7.983 million.

    Okee dokee, so as I understand it, we currently have access to the taxpayer MLE because we are over the 1st apron but under the 2nd. The taxpayer mid-level exception belongs to teams who are above the salary cap and in the first luxury tax apron. Teams above the second apron do not have a mid-level exception. The non-taxpayer mid-level exception belongs to teams who are over the salary cap but not in the first luxury tax apron.

    Currently we’re over the 1st apron and about $10 mil under the 2nd so we can use the $5.168 million MLE to sign anyone…if we cut someone since we’re at the maximum roster size. This is because of the cap hits for LeBron, Prince. We could renounce whatever rights we have but I doubt that’s happening.

    To gain access to the NTPMLE, worth $12.822 million, we’d need to be above $140.588 but still end up UNDER $170.814 million after we use it, you can’t use that and punch your way into the tax area…which isn’t an actual apron…which makes all of this a lot harder.

    If you get all the way under the salary cap itself but above the minimum salary you, are some reason, kind of penalized and I think you only get access to the Room Exception which is the one worth $7.983 mil.

    We haven’t even factored in Bronny or Knecht yet, either, right? I’m not 100% sure but I think works out to adding roughly $4.9 mil in added salary on top of the already guaranteed money and the cap holds worth mentioning. If I’m not crazy…no guarantee…that leaves us at $170,229 million in guaranteed salary. So LeBron would have to take a pretty hefty pay cut to keep the salary under $170.814 million and have the room to use the full exception. I believe roughly $20 mil

    I am not a cap expert, by any means so please feel free to double-check my math lol. One thing I’m 100% certain of is that somebody needs to be cut in order to free up a physical roster space. That $$$ still counts against the salary cap, it only opens up a roster spot.

    Ooops. My brain just exploded.

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    5 Things: Free Agency Flop?

    Maybe not so much. Everyone just chill out for a sec. I did a couple podcasts and watched angry comment after angry comment along the lines of “Rob can’t close” and “Jeannie sucks” or “LeBron has ruined the Lakers…waaaaaah” and found it all, well, hilarious. They couldn’t play Salary Cap-A-G-Go because they had no-go. Here are some facts: the Lakers started free agency capped out if all of their player option players opted in. They all opted in, leaving LeBron James as the sole player with an option left to pick up or a deal to renegotiate. There was a rumor, not one started by LeBron I imagine, that he would take a pay cut in order to facilitate a small list of preferred players onto the Lakers. If true, that would have been interesting to see just how magnanimous the King was willing to be. Since most of the players on this infamous mystery list have signed onto other teams let’s take a moment to breathe and let reality work it’s magic.

    1. LeBron isn’t ruining jack. Honestly…just…just stop with this BS. The man plays harder at 39 than half the league that’s almost half his age. He was never going to leave. I doubt he was ever actually considering a pay cut given the cap gymnastics it would require of Rob who, frankly, simply isn’t up to the task or the job. Had such a thing happened it would have surprised me. I’m not too full of myself to admit that now, even if it does end up happening, in order to free up the full MLE LeBron would have to take something like a $20 million dollar pay cut (my apologies for being bad at math and not having a ton of time to work this out. As I understand it-and I could be wrong and welcome factual corrections-in order to use the NTPMLE we’d need to get below the 2nd apron line by the amount that we use, with LeBron’s $50 million cap hold we’re at $178 mil, the 1st apron stops at $170 mil which means we need to get down to $158 mil…I think???). You don’t like him hoping to play with his kid? Seems kinda heartless given how much of his time he’s given basketball and now he dares, DARES, to want to share that time with his eldest son?!?!?! The nerve of the man… Don’t like how the coaches he doesn’t respect get fired? Tell that to Magic fucking Johnson who got a head coach fired before it was en vogue, he’s the OG coach firing guy folks. Don’t like how it feels like we’ve handed the keys of the entire franchise over to one player? Tell that to Kobe Bryant (R.I.P) who basically got Shaq traded after a season he spent the majority of in a Colorado courthouse so he could settle out of court. If you don’t get that this is the Laker Way I honestly don’t know what team you have been watching.
    2. Rob Pelinka sucks at his job. Don’t believe me? Let’s count how many $8 million contracts are being lined up for THT who, if he’s lucky, will sign for a vet minimum but more likely end up playing for more money overseas with Dwight Howard or something. Stop blaming LeBron for a weak-kneed, jelly-brained GM. LeBron is doing what he can, he’s even working the phones trying to get a buddy to come play for cheap. No, no this entire team has the stain of ineptitude left by Rob all over it. From another rookie head coach (back-to-back baby!) to another strained salary cap situation and no discernable plan in sight these are the hallmarks of a Rob Pelinka team my friends. Now, in Rob’s defense, he didn’t have a lot to work with coming into the season. So if the plan was to hope that every single player option didn’t get picked up thus reducing the amount LeBron would need to donate back to the Lakers to zero if that list included Russell…well…that’s an incredibly shitty plan. If the plan, and I really have to assume there was one of some kind, was to hope that DLo, Cam, Wood and Jax all opted out and sought greener pastures so that we could open up the Non Tax Payer MLE (thus losing 4 players for one much cheaper player) the man should be fired. If the plan was to convince Chris Paul, Klay Thompson or DeMar DeRozan to take the vet minimum like he did Trevor Ariza (no other team wanted him) and Carmelo Anthony (no other team wanted him) and I forget what other NBA AARP member was on that ill-fated squad, he’s just not paying attention.
    3. Where’s AD? Just like the 4th quarter of a big game…AD is nowhere to be seen. I’m sure he’ll bounce back tomorrow. Argentina? Cape Town? Who knows. He’s locked in anyhow, he can’t renegotiate his deal, so not too sure what he’d do to help other than remind LeBron to eat his power shake made from the souls of NBA legends long since passed. “AD, the Jerry West shake is DELICIOUS!” (too soon?). I kid though, AD is the cornerstone and is doing his job as quietly as this modern world allows. I hope.
    4. It’s not that bad y’all. Seriously, it isn’t. At this point let’s assume that LeBron is going to end up taking the max for 1,2 or 3 years, hopefully with team and/or player options of some kind that make it so we’re not screwed if he gets seriously hurt. We have AD, for all his strengths and flaws, DLo who can be a difference-maker in the regular season and a couple good games in the playoffs (maybe), solid players on cheapish contracts and we’re getting younger. That’s the main thing I think is being influenced by Reddick in all honesty. There may be a conflict of interests in that I can’t imagine J.J. Reddick wants to spend his first few season butting heads with vets who are about his age and have done more in the league than he ever did. I think he would much rather coach a team with a vet he knows well (LeBron) a vet he’s hopefully apologized to for ranking him so poorly defensively (AD) some solid role-players still looking to make a serious mark (the rest of the starters and most of the bench) and young guys (Knecht and I dunno…JHS I guess, maybe Lewis and Castleton). Remember, we ended last season just 5 games out from being the 4th seed. That was with injuries to Vando and Vincent that sidelined them most of the regular season. If AD and LBJ can largely replicate their health from last season and some of the role guys improve or just play, that could be a big enough swing to take us out of the playin and into the playoff realm. One could also argue the west got a little weaker this summer with talent dispersing itself more equitably (by design and courtesy of the new CBA).
    5. So, in your opinion Jamie just why has this been such a quiet free agency for the Lakers? Glad you asked, here’s what I think: we had no cap space, not even the TPMLE to start free agency because we had to wait on players to opt in, not surprisingly they waited until basically the last second because they hoped something better would open up, when their agents told them that wasn’t likely they opted in thus removing all potential cap space from the equation. Simple logic. Concerning our draft picks 5 years out and the pick swaps and all that…they’re not as valuable as they used to be (or some people think they are) because nobody knows how bad the Lakers will be. If the Lakers are good, the picks will probably be mediocre, at best. The lottery system also dissuades teams from giving up the ghost for a potential rookie 5 years from now when GM X may or may not even have a job. The new CBA penalties are draconic and we’re seeing that play out in free agency. Max contracts for under-performing players are toxic. Injured players with gas left in the tank (their opinion, of course) are signing for pennies. My takeaway is that having 10-15 million in actual cap space every summer is going to be the new modus operandi for a lot of teams now. We’ll see more teams taking a hit by letting a guy walk to free up space so they can use all the spending tools a lot of teams absolutely rely on to fill out the margins. Otherwise you’ll be like the Knicks: watching a quality player walk for nothing to another team with money to pay him. Bird Rights in trades will be ESSENTIAL going forward because we saw Hartenstein walk and the Knicks had his Early Bird Rights…wasn’t enough. That second apron will be the death of super teams and the three super star model, by design, but it may also herald the end of the two superstar teams depending on which superstars are available at any given moment. We got 2 guys taking up over 50% (approaching 60%) of our 1st apron tax space.

      One last point, on the pride of an elite athlete. It has been tossed about that a player of Chris Paul’s caliber and possibly even Klay Thompson or DeMar DeRozan could be had for the vet minimum. I’m not talking specifically here, just in general I see a lot of that stuff. I don’t think we factor in things like “personal pride” or “hard work” enough. Ask yourself a simple question: if someone who had never done your job before, who was also the owner manager of your work place, came up to you and said something along the lines of “I know you make $25/hour now…but about taking $15/hour so we can hire someone else? Oh, also and by the way, I’M not taking any kind of pay cut at all. So…whaddaya think!?” you would be pissed. You would be angry. You would do what Klay Thompson just did and find another job, maybe even for the amount the other guy asked you for because eff you pal. These are people who are elite, all of them, even JHS. They are the top 1% of the basketball world and it’s by a really large margin. It’s everyone’s choice how to view that and factor it into trades or contract offers but in this one area I actually think the Lakers lead the league and that is respecting the work. Getting off the soap box now, next man up.

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    • Also, think about this: next summer we’ll see AD’s extension kick in and if LBJ takes the max those 2 will cost $113 million in cap space, alone. Now toss in Reaves, Vincent, Vando and Hachimura (or at least the salaries they represent as they could be traded for someone(s) else making about the same and you’re already at roughly $164-165 mil in cap space. That would mean just letting JHS and Lewis walk and we haven’t factored in Knecht or Bronny so that figure is higher (we won’t have to worry about a FRP next summer, we don’t have one yet). We’ll basically be capped out next summer, too.

      So get used to this. Or don’t. it’s entirely up to you lol.

      CAP SPACE-A-GO-GO the new game sweeping the nation and leaving hoops fans disappointed and disillusioned with their team’s inability to print money and sign everyone! New from Parker Bros.

    • Excellent 5’er Jamie. Completely agree.

    • Wow, Jamie! Your analysis is what I will call the brutal truth. Truth hurts a lot, and that’s why I am hurting right now. But it has to be said. What we Lakers fans are facing now is real, and there seems to be no light at the end of the tunnel. The Lakers’ financial situation is like a triple-double gone wrong.

      Through a combination of inept management and incompetence, the Lakers found themselves juggling a hefty payroll with LeBron James and Anthony Davis alone gobbling up more than half of the team’s salary cap.

      Yes, LeBron’s willing to sacrifice to increase the team’s chances to bring in a quality player, and LeBron’s willing to take a pay cut. But that’s like asking a superstar to play with a blindfold – noble, but not enough. His $51 million cap hit still looms large, but the man had worked hard throughout his career, and deserves every penny that comes his way. Even if the Lakers have a mid-level exception (say around $12 million), it’s like finding pocket change in a couch – not enough for a star player.
      One can only hope players like Gary Trent Jr. or Derozan might join, but it’s like hoping for rain during a drought. The Lakers need more firepower, and that’s why being financially handicapped makes me feel sad as a fan.
      I am sure many of us agree the 2023/24 season has been a rollercoaster – injuries, disgruntled players (though not overt), and missed trade opportunities. Most of these problems point to gross mismanagement, if not lack of vision. It is like watching your favorite player airball a clutch shot.
      In short, the Lakers have been playing chess with checkers money. The question that keeps burning inside of me is: How can the Lakers improve their situation? Well it seems there will be no answer to this question anytime soon.
      Let’s hope they make a big splash soon!

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    With the news that Christian Wood and Jaxon Hayes are opting in on very cheap/cap friendly deals I think we need to look almost exclusively at wings and big, mobile guards under 87 years old. That takes Klay and CP3 out of the mix. With the Lakers extending Castleton the 2 way QO it shows they intend to keep him unless another team actually offers him a contract (and maybe even they choose to match it). At the very least it looks like they did the young man a solid by guaranteeing him a raise if someone else wants him.

    AD, Jax and Wood, LeBron and Vando are enough big bodies. Between the 4 there’s enough good, shooting and skill to compete in the regular season. If we have the ponies for LM from Utah or KO from Toronto I’d be cool with that, I’d also be cool trading one if Wood or Jax along with Rui to Chicago for Vucevic.

    But then we have to use the MLE, should it be available, on a wing. Kinda doubt Tobias Harris will come for the full MLE but we could slot DeMar DeRozan at the 3 (doubt he’d be happy coming off the bench, at least to start the season but who knows…insert wish for a coach who has done this before and understands how to talk to vets properly…) but that still trends toward old and under-sized. Grant looks too pricey given his impact in winning but there’s an argument that it’s his situation and not specifically him. Still, not sure we have the ponies for that race.

    So here’s a list, in no particular order, of wings under 35 who can contribute on both ends that could be had for the MLE (IMO):
    -Precious Achiuwa
    -Tobias Harris (this one is a stretch in logic honestly)
    -Kelly Oubre (personal top choice)
    -Saddiq Bay
    -Naji Marshall (could challenge for a starting spot honestly)

    Staying away from the Covington’s and Hayward’s as my hope is we get younger and not older and that we focus as much in defense as much as shooting.

    Current State of Mind

    With the news that Christian Wood and Jaxon Hayes are opting in on very cheap/cap friendly deals I think we need to look almost exclusively at wings and big, mobile guards under 87 years old. That takes Klay and CP3 out of the mix. With the Lakers extending Castleton the 2 way QO it shows they intend to keep him unless another team actually offers him a contract (and maybe even they choose to match it). At the very least it looks like they did the young man a solid by guaranteeing him a raise if someone else wants him.

    AD, Jax and Wood, LeBron and Vando are enough big bodies. Between the 4 there’s enough good, shooting and skill to compete in the regular season. If we have the ponies for LM from Utah or KO from Toronto I’d be cool with that, I’d also be cool trading one if Wood or Jax along with Rui to Chicago for Vucevic.

    But then we have to use the MLE, should it be available, on a wing. Kinda doubt Tobias Harris will come for the full MLE but we could slot DeMar DeRozan at the 3 (doubt he’d be happy coming off the bench, at least to start the season but who knows…insert wish for a coach who has done this before and understands how to talk to vets properly…) but that still trends toward old and under-sized. Grant looks too pricey given his impact in winning but there’s an argument that it’s his situation and not specifically him. Still, not sure we have the ponies for that race.

    So here’s a list, in no particular order, of wings under 35 who can contribute on both ends that could be had for the MLE (IMO):
    -Precious Achiuwa
    -Tobias Harris (this one is a stretch in logic honestly)
    -Kelly Oubre (personal top choice)
    -Saddiq Bay
    -Naji Marshall (could challenge for a starting spot honestly)

    Staying away from the Covington’s and Hayward’s as my hope is we get younger and not older and that we focus as much in defense as much as shooting.

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    • Now if LeBron has a list of players he’ll reduce salary for that changes a lot.

      • It’s funny to me that all the click bait guys seem to think the Lakers need offense and it’s all about shooters. The Lakers were 6th in scoring and I believe 7th in 3 point shooting percentage. Now we didn’t take enough 3’d but I think JJ will fix that. We need to improve our defense. I like Marshall as well. But I don’t think he’s a name that LeBron will take a pay cut for. If Vando and Vincent are healthy that will help. Since he barely played, fans tend to forget that Vincent is a highly regarded on ball defender. We didn’t sign him for his offense although he was a capable offensive player during the Heats playoff run last year. Biggest problem for the Lakers is it’s a weak free agent class and solid 2 way players are expensive.

        • Spot on. It’s always perplexing to me as well when folks say “All we need is a coupla 3&D guys” as if there’s a buncha these guys just sitting around the parking lot at Home Depot waiting to be picked up. Quality guys like this are rare and 2 of the better ones (Murray & Bridges) are already off the board.

    • I wouldn’t mind seeing KCP coming back either. Lebron might take that big pay cut for a fellow Klutch brother.

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    With nothing but the contracts of Hachimura (semi-valuable), Gabe Vincent (barely played), Jarred Vanderbilt (barely played but with still decent upside) and the Tax-Payer MLE were basically running it back. Could we see some trades in a week? Maybe, but Rob is either too slow to pull the trigger or teams aren’t interested in our talent and/or picks still 5 years out. Compounding the issue is we still can’t offer salary relief the season after next for anyone except Russell, whom we have all acknowledged would be difficult to replace.

    Soooo…we’re running it back.

    With nothing but the contracts of Hachimura (semi-valuable), Gabe Vincent (barely played), Jarred Vanderbilt (barely played but with still decent upside) and the Tax-Payer MLE were basically running it back. Could we see some trades in a week? Maybe, but Rob is either too slow to pull the trigger or teams aren’t interested in our talent and/or picks still 5 years out. Compounding the issue is we still can’t offer salary relief the season after next for anyone except Russell, whom we have all acknowledged would be difficult to replace.

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    • Not even sure if we have the MLE either…

      • Rumor found the water mill is LBJ considering opting out and taking less. How much less being the question. Likely not enough for the full MLE.

        • Waiting on Cam. If he opts in, that’s 15 players and another headache for Rob. We are so close to the 2nd apron even stretching Lewis hurts. He didn’t look good in G league so we might not even be able to pay a team to take him. Hood-Shapino might have some value but an injury riddled rookie season ending in back surgery isn’t helpful.

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