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Russ and his agent have parted ways due to “irreconcilable differences”…WTF?! Not that it effects anything at all but feels weird.
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One wonders if the Lakers had tried to buy Russ out or if he is now about to become a Klutch Klient? 5 year max extension here we come!!! lol
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It basically boils down to: “Russ is Russ. He won’t change, won’t take a dime less in a buyout, and couldn’t even draw interest as a Mid-level guy. So while I’ll happily collect my remaining commission on what is certainly his last contract at anything more than a vet’s minimum, it’s really not worth the overwhelming amount of overhead it takes to keep Russ happy.”
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Sometimes these agents seem to forget who works for who in that relationship. And Russ doesn’t seem like the guy who’s taking a whole lotta lip from an employee.
But for real, if this dude was my agent then he would be losing another client today. You’ve got no reason to be putting your man’s business out on the street even after you’ve split. Keep my name outta your mouth and move on.
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Especially with that “wishing him and his family all the best!” line after he hung all that laundry out for everyone to see…weird summer.
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I give the agent credit for giving Russ the advice he needed to hear: take Darvin Ham’s offer to start and change the direction of your career back to positive and winning. Russ was a fool not to listen to the guy who’s had his back all of these years. That was the best advice Russ has received and should have been heeded. Reminds me of the struggles Tom Cruise had in Jerry Maguire. Sometimes, it’s the player who errors in not listening to his agent.
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Yeah but it ain’t his agent trying to trade Russ and Jerry McGuire was about getting that 1st big pay day. Russ has gotten paid. Maybe I’m missing something but his agent literally has zero to do with what’s going on right now until such time as Russ is on another team. Maybe Russ is more willing than his agent to accept a buyout? I dunno…odd month so far.
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Reading some articles and watching some hoops news on my lunch and, I must admit, it is fun to watch as the world slowly starts to come around to an opinion you put out there months ago. The Nets openly indicating that they won’t trade Durant because they are unimpressed by offers for him thus far. That makes sense in a bunch of ways. First, Durant had two whopping teams he was willing to be traded to: Miami and Phoenix. Both of those teams were in the mix for a ring last season but came up short. Is the missing piece Durant, especially if the cost is a grip ton of draft capital and some of your best players? Does Durant gloss over the loss of Bridges ever-improving game or Crowder’s elite three and D skill set? Is he worth the potential that is Scottie Barnes? Of all the teams I still see Miami as the most equipped and (big and there) willing to pull the trigger on a move. Lowry has to be in the mix otherwise this doesn’t work. Lowry, Herro, Robinson and every draft pick until 2030 (with some work with OKC to remove protections on 2025 for a slight cost) is a pretty decent deal. Does it make the Nets contenders? Nope.
This is where the Kobe comparison comes back into play. Kobe had the ludicrous notion that the Lakers would trade him for just picks and expiring money. That is fire-able offense by any and every GM. Their job is to build a team, not make life easier for the players. A role that is far too often confused. The Nets looking at Miami’s “best” (which can’t include Bam unless the Nets move Ben which also won’t happen) have to think that rolling the dice with Durant, no matter how grumpy he might be, is worth it. Herro is good, maybe even super star good but he’s not there, yet and he’s not close to a decent two-way player. Robinson hit his ceiling two seasons ago and may not hit it again. Lowry is old and starting to break down. Keeping KD is a better option.
Brooklyn looking at what would/could now be Phoenix’s best offer (which can’t include Ayton as S&T or filler this summer) should also give pause. Does Bridges, Crowder and Johnson elevate you to contender status? No, but Phoenix has the most draft capital to spend which could be enticing if Brooklyn wants to go full rebuild. The thing is, Brooklyn has maintained all along that they want to trade Durant, replenish the draft pick farm and contend. Frankly, given Durant’s status as a current top ten player in the NBA and maybe top 15-20 All Time, why shouldn’t they? Why should they settle on spare parts and chump picks for one of the best to ever lace them up? The reasons aren’t plentiful, pretty much from what I’ve heard and read the answer back is “he’ll be grumpy”. That ain’t a reason, that’s an excuse.
So, if the Nets want to keep Durant and try to decrease his grump amplitude there really is only one thing they can do: keep Kyrie Irving. For whatever wacktastic reason Kevin Durant likes to be on the same team as Kyrie Irving to the point he indicated he would be less grumpy if he and Irving were traded to the same team. As if any GM in any sport on planet Earth would want to recreate Frankenstein’s monster for themselves just to watch it trash their team. I would imagine that, on an emotional level the Nets are 100% done with Kyrie Irving and his baggage. However, there are compelling financial reasons that are worth bringing up.
The market for Kyrie is even smaller than Durant’s wish list. It’s 1: the Los Angeles Lakers. The problem with a Laker trade is that it will have to be for Russell Westbrook. This will undoubtedly affect Durant’s grump factor and cause his Grump-O-Meter to dip wildly into the negative. There’s a reason why Brooklyn wants to get a Durant deal done first. It’s because if they choose to keep him they want Kyrie on the team to both stay competitive and throw Durant an emotional bone. “Hey guy, we didn’t trade you but we got your crazy friend still on the roster so we’re good, right?” is how one imagines the conversation could go.
The Nets might blink. Maybe they take above-average role-players and a lot of draft picks and call it even. I’m sure there are those within the organization calling for a total tear down and let’s just walk away from this ever growing dumpster fire. I’m sure there’s also a faction that demands getting worth back that feels equitable. That will be pretty hard to accomplish and that’s why, for awhile now, I’ve been saying the Nets are just as likely to keep both players as trade them.
If the Lakers want to move Russ, and I think they do and have been met with a lot of nothing, they need to see if Indy really is interested and get that deal done ASAP. Because as soon as Brooklyn announces they’re closing shop and rolling as-is that will about end the idea of a major trade happening prior to the start of the season. Summer League is over, people are going on vacation and turning their attention to things that need to be done post free agency. There will still be some trades but the chance that a big one happens decreases with every passing day.
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Great post Jamie. The only reason KD wanted to leave was because he felt Kyrie wasn’t treated fairly in his extension negotiations. Now Kyrie says he wants to stay. Of course that could simply be a public relations move in case he isn’t traded. Who really knows what is being discussed behind closed doors. It’s fun to blame the Lakers, but the delay in the trade may not have anything to do with the Lakers. It could be the Nets who are not ready to pull the trigger.
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Thanks buba. It’s certainly not a fun or probably popular opinion but my feeling is more folks will come around to it as time wears on. Simply because it won’t be opinion by that time but fact.
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I agree. I am just worn out by all these drum beats that don’t seem to attract any dancers. Just a long off-season, man.
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We’re in agreement that the Lakers need to move now. Completing the trade and getting rid of Russ and adding Kyrie is more important than any of our trading chips, including the two picks. Make them unprotected if you have to but get the deal done for Kyrie and two of Harris, Curry or Richardson.
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That’s the same one-sided argument I’ve seen here and everywhere else. It takes two to tango and from what it looks like to me the Nets are perfectly fine sitting this dance out. For now.
That’s the other calculus that is often glossed over or wholly ignored: The Russ deal will be on the table all day, every day from now until the trade deadline or he actually gets traded. There will never ever be a publicly declared “we’re keeping Russ no matter what” stance. The offer is there, every team knows it. I have to believe that Rob is good enough at his job as to not let two draft picks five years out stop him from making a sensible trade, even for a guy who probably won’t top 50 games total, including playoffs, this season. No team is in a hurry to acquire Russ, that phone line will be open 24-7-365. In fact, the opposite is true: the longer you wait to make the Russ deal the more the Lakers pay. Are you telling me that every other GM in the Association isn’t mildly smug about that fact?I think what everyone means to say is that the Lakers would very much, please-and-thank-you, LIKE to move fast. Brooklyn has Durant in the fold, they can trade him anytime over the course of the next 4 seasons. He’ll play, he has too much professional pride not to and he’s in the mix for some big records if he can average 60ish games a season for the next 4 seasons. He’s a legacy guy and he wants his to be one of the best.
If Durant is on Brooklyn Russell won’t be. They won’t do it for a buyout/cap relief, that’s coming when Kyrie’s deal is up next summer anyhow. It’s not a wild theory to suggest they simply bide their time, see what happens with Kyrie and COVID, maybe it doesn’t come to vaxx required for indoor events like it did last season, and they rocket out of the gate and look like barn burners.
It took a month or so into the season for Kobe to back down from his trade request and it was all because Bynum was playing well and the Lakers were winning. When he went down Kobe didn’t turn tail and say trade me he had conversations behind the scenes for them to do something an Pau Gasol rode into the picture. It’s not hard to see the Nets achieving something similar.
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Training camp starts in about 2 months…that’s the only date I’d like to see us shooting for to get a Westbrook/Kyrie trade done. Alot of our problems last season started with not taking camp & the pre-season seriously. Started slow out the gate and the sh!tshow was on. Wanna see D.Ham with the roster set and some actual momentum headed into October. Plus…mid season trades rarely work out. So we got 2 months….just my 2 cents.
As for KD, alot has changed both contractually & philosophically in the league since Kobe & Melo demanded trades. Kobe was Laker family and they were gonna do whatever they could to keep him here after wasting multiple years of his prime. That ain’t KD’s situation. The Melo thing showed what happens when you dismantle the entire team to get one superstar … a total of one playoff series win. KD set a very narrow set of parameters for him to be traded so if those aren’t met then he’ll most likely be back with the Nets with no harm done.
At any rate…there’s gonna be a whole lotta bullsh!t floating around in the next few weeks…lol
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I think the Nets are taking a page out of both the Kobe/Melo handbook. KD has no leverage, same as Kibe at the time, and they really didn’t even make a move to appease him other than I think that ended up being the year D-Fish came back after he begged/snuck out of his deal with the Warriors? Would have to go check that one… Two months is a long time, especially with all that BS in the tub 😆
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I think Kobe’s leverage was his history & relationship with the Buss family and the franchise & city in general. Lotta good-will built up there. They laid out a plan for him and Pau was there the following February.
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Sounds like a massive 4-team deal could be in the works, Utah, Indy, New York and Phoenix are rumored to be hashing out a deal that moves Simmons and Durant, Utah moves Mitchell, Indy moves Turner and Buddy and New York moves whomever they can and a boatload of draft picks.
If that is more than rumor (no guarantee and I think New York would maybe prefer to deal with Utah exclusively since it’s a lot fewer moving parts and why should they help Brooklyn anyhow?) than we could see Durant moved by the end of the weekend.
Or it’s just a rumor and a Durant deal stays on ice. Unlike the Lakers there aren’t a ton of leaks coming from any of these teams just that the Nets would like to get salary relief in any Durant/Irving deal, want good draft picks and good players. That’s a “no doy” kind of statement.
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It truly is crazy season. I haven’t read that one yet. But many outlets are reporting that Kyrie said he never asked for a trade and that he intends to play for the Nets with or without KD. And Windhorst reported this morning that the vibe around the Nets front office is they are prepared to keep both KD and Kyrie. Perhaps that is what prompted Kyrie to say he intends to play with the Nets. It all could be posturing. Or it could be the truth. Who knows. But with all of these different possible narratives out there it does prove that there is no such thing as a sure thing.
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All of those Kyrie wanting to play for the Nets stories came from a NY Post story that reported someone who knows Kyrie says he has never asked to be traded and actually opted in to finish the year with the Nets. From there, the story was aggregated everywhere. There is no chance imo that Kyrie or Russ do not get traded but there is no doubt this is a crazy offseason.
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Here’s the original story:
When asked if Irving was also willing to play for the Nets despite the team having had multiple rounds of talks with the Lakers, the source said he was — and that includes even if Durant is traded away.
“Kyrie wants to play. … He wants to win a championship, and he wants to play,” the source told The Post, adding Irving and Durant are friends and supportive of each other although not necessarily tied at the hip. “I think when KD said he wanted a trade, he didn’t say I’m going to trade to where Kyrie goes.”
Kyrie Irving wants to be a Net — with or without Kevin Durant #Nets https://t.co/eCy49wyEr7 via @nypostsports
— Brian Lewis (@NYPost_Lewis) July 13, 2022
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I read the story. None of it is all that believable or, frankly matters. It’s what the Nets choose to do that will define what everyone else is allowed to try and do. All I’m trying to do here is balance the flood of “It’s 100% bonafide surefire guaranteed and I’ll bet my saddle it’ll happen 5 minutes ago” stuff with something a little different.
The truth is the Nets haven’t stated they want to trade Kyrie just as Kyrie hasn’t stated he wants a trade. At least publicly. All this hoopla, except for KD saying he wants to be traded, has been created by the various media personalities.
That is why I am not very convinced there will be a trade. I did some reading last night, I went back and looked at the stories that were out there when Kobe demanded a trade.
Kobe Bryant submitted a trade request from the Lakers on a radio show in 2007, but walked it back. Kobe Bryant went on an ESPN radio show during the offseason to push for a trade away from the Lakers. He laid it out as non-confrontationally as he could muster the composure to:
“I would like to be traded, yeah. Tough as it is to come to that conclusion there’s no other alternative, you know?”
“I just want them to do the right thing.”
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Here’s a sample story from the time regarding the demand:
https://www.espn.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/3446/kobe-bryant-says-he-d-like-to-be-traded
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Kobe went further, a lot further, in terms of an all out media blitz to convince the Lakers and the world he wanted and was going to be traded. We all know that worked out.
So, based on all of the above, and the fact that of all the parties involved the only one who has made a concrete statement is Kevin Durant I can quite easily see all of this not working out the way folks are predicting. I won’t be surprised if both KD and KI are on the Nets to start the season.
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Aloha Jamie,
living in Hawaii, i enjoy the trade winds on a warm day. but im not enjoying the NBA trate winds much. at this point I wouldnt be surprised either way. i do know that if we do make the trade we will probably get screwed over. since the end of the season, negative leaks have flowed from the front office and Lebron, stripping away any leverage we may have had. you made an interesting point. The Nets traded a first round pick for Royce Oneil and gambled on TJ Warren. these are not moves that a tanking team makes. The Nets are looking for a haul for KD, especially after they saw what The Jazz got for Gobert. If they don’t trade KD and they look at their roster and say, you know with Kyrie we could compete for a ring, think they still trade him for a distant first or two? Championships are hard to come by, the Nets never have won one. i think they would pass on the picks for a ring. and whats Kyrie going to do? this is a contract year. If he wants to get paid he needs to step up. any further antics could cost him millions. It will be interesting to see what happens with KD because that will be the key to Kyrie.
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That Gobert trade has the makings of one of the all-time worst. 4 1st’s for a guy that maybe takes you to the 2nd round earning supermax money. Really makes you wonder what KD could fetch and who has that sorta capital laying around? Anyway, I won’t bother to learn Minny’s GM’s name. Can’t imagine he sticks.
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One of the first things sailors learn about Trade Winds is not to piss into the wind because you know what happens.
Kyrie for Russ trade will happen soon so enjoy every piece of disappointing Lakers news hoping you are right.
The good news is you will be wrong and the Lakers will trade Russ for Kyrie and be back in the hunt this season.
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Also seems like you didn’t bother to read as I say here (and multiple other mites) that I think trading Russ makes decent sense but that there ain’t a lotta movement. Enjoy watching Brian Windhorst’s Twitter feed until midnight lol
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We’re all just watching the most boring game of chicken ever. Who will blink? Rob and send out draft picks because he doesn’t have the stone to get a deal done without them? The Nets because they are o-v-e-r Irving.? Neither and they just keep staring until the season rolls around? All for a player who we’ll be lucky to squeeze 60 total (including playoffs) games out of? Awesome. I haven’t been this excited since we signed Matt Barnes!!!
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I still don’t think it’s a fully directed message to The King but still
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That should quell the Boogie rumor, Thomas Bryant is returning to the Lakers! Still could go after Cousins as Bryant could slot into the 4 spot. Cool stuff!
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Spurs claimed him. Probably wouldn’t have had the roster spots anyhow.
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We are at 13 player and need to keep 2 open for a Kyrie trade. We have only 2 small forwards and Gabriel is a combo forward. Robey would have been a nice developmental piece at PF but with the Kyrie trade looming there wasn’t room for him right now.
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Sounds like it could be between us and Boston. He would be a great pickup if he can stay on the floor.
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I’ve said that earlier too. Bryant and Damian Jones would effectively solve the center position. That would save both AD and LeBron from wear and tear. 82 game marathon is no joke.
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That’s about as exciting as this currently is here in Laker Land. Damien Jones coming back on vet minimum deal is fine, so was nabbing Troy Murphy for the same and oh yeah that dude who didn’t play much in Golden State. Lonnie Walker the IV is a step back from Malik who did indeed play his way out of town, albeit where NBA careers go to die up in Sacramento. Anyhow, couple more veteran minimums and then we wait for the Nets to gift us a fair-weather player. Which I don’t see happening. “Why?” You might ask. Well I’m assuming Rob holds firm on his stance to not give up draft assets for one. The other is I think the Nets aren’t all that inclined to keep on doing the bidding of Mr. Irving. Second is I don’t expect them to rush into trading KD or Irving. They’re under contract with no leaks of knock out deals on the horizon. They don’t want to tank, they’re looking to reload and rock. Sitting out might be an option for Kyrie, he loves to not play. KD? I don’t think so, he doesn’t throw things away or fritter his time wastefully. He’s chasing records and rings, he’ll play. Nets can make a trade for Ayton, LaVine or another player under contract already. A lot of the biggest and best S&T pieces are already off the board, though. It’s not impossible but I don’t see the Nets giving us a serviceable player like Seth Curry or Joe Harris just to have Westbrook in the roster, buy him out or try to make that work. I think the Nets handle this like the Lakers handled Kobe’s Pluto request: slowly.
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I like the direction we took today and frankly, this really was the only way it could go. None of the targets endlessly bandied about in this space were realistically gonna come here for $6mill..especially when the cap went up more than anticipated. So we got a buncha young, cheap dudes for D.Ham and his guys to develop over a few years. You need those bodies because err’body ain’t gonna pan out. I hope we don’t commit to any bad, long-term contracts in the upcoming weeks.
Still not sure how I feel about Kyrie. On the one hand, he’s single-handedly decimated the Nets. On the other..he has to get his sh!t together eventually..right? Right?
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Can anyone explain the angle that Sacramento is working? Man…
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Donte DiVincenzo‘S QO ain’t that much and they’re under the cap one way or the other. It’s not like players line up to play there, it’s by far the worst Cali team to play for. All the negatives (taxes, traffic) and the Kings stink. If nobody matches you’re stuck with him for one season and you hope he shakes the injury bug. Wow…
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Now we know why the Knicks were signaling zero interest in Russ months ago. Honestly did us a solid as they could have kept Rob on a string right up until 30 minutes ago.
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The Knicks were smart. They moved Burks, Noel and Walkers salaries without taking having to take salary back. They also have 5 first rounders next year. All 3 contracts were expiring like Russ so taking on Russ had no benefit for them.
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That all but takes Kyrie out of our reach. I am quite fine with that development.
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Not entirely but there will be no MLE or S&T because Kyrie’s not a free agent. There is still a 3-team trade to be made if we can move Russ for pieces the Nets like. Of course, the question is then why would we trade those pieces for Kyrie?
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Actually this was the only move he could make if he wants to be traded., especially to the Lakers. A sign and trade would put the Lakers up against the hard cap with a lot of spots to fill. So actually I feel like the real drama is just beginning,
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I felt from the jump that Brooklyn would be foolish to break that thing up already without ever really seeing it on the court. They still could make a trade but at least now with the clock paused it won’t be rushed. Lakers never had the pieces to entice them into a s&t in the 1st place.
So if he stays they have a core of Kyrie, KD, Simmons, Seth Curry, Joe Harris, & Patty Mills. Not sure if they have the Bird rights to Claxton & Bruce Brown but thats a top 4 team in the east … theoretically… lol
The move they really missed the boat on was dumping Steve Nash. That dude was a deer in the headlights when the playoffs rolled around.
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Great job, Jamie. Writing about Kyrie right now is insane because there are new takes every 5 minutes. I can’t even decide if I’m excited or scared to death about Kyrie coming. I have a half dozen half finished stories that had to be abandoned by new info LOL. Next couple of days are going to be a roller coaster.
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Based on NBA scuttlebutt Beal is opting out just to up his annual salary. Smart move for the Beal clan, not like the Wizards have much else going for them, and if that team can stay healthy they should a have a decent shot at a playin spot, maybe even a low seeding depending on how things shake out. Honestly this was one of the few teams I imagined being open to taking Russ in. He played well there and helped get them to the playoffs and they have shooters to open the floor up. KP would be #2 and Kuzma could still be the Swiss Army player we know him to be. This squashes that admittedly minor hope.
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From his agent: In a statement, Foucher said: “I represented Russell Westbrook for 14 years and am proud of our partnership which included a highly successful 2008 draft, a super-max contract and the only renegotiation-and-extend max contract in history. I also supported Russell throughout his rise into a prominent fashion industry figure and recently orchestrated three successive trades on Russell’s behalf — culminating with the trade to his hometown Los Angeles Lakers.
“Each time, teams gave up valuable players and assets to acquire Russell – and each time, a new organization embraced his arrival. We did it together with grace and class.
“Now, with a possibility of a fourth trade in four years, the marketplace is telling the Lakers they must add additional value with Russell in any trade scenario. And even then, such a trade may require Russell to immediately move on from the new team via buyout.
“My belief is that this type of transaction only serves to diminish Russell’s value and his best option is to stay with the Lakers, embrace the starting role and support that Darvin Ham publicly offered. Russell is a first-ballot Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame player and will prove that again before he is retired.
“Unfortunately, irreconcilable differences exist as to his best pathway forward and we are no longer working together. I wish Russell and his family the very best.