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Working on a play so too busy for a full 5er. I’ll leave it at something’s gotta give: either a trade, full scale superstar revolt or just this abject mediocrity lasting for eternity. Something. This is borderline unwatchable basketball at times.
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Good fiver, Jamie.
1. LeBron and Father Time. There is no question LeBron is not playing like himself right now. Hopefully, it’s the flu and ankle and not Father Time but either way, it’s not good news for the Lakers. We’ve always had a positive net rating for LeBron and it’s been other players who haven’t been able to post positives. This Lakers team has no chance of winning without LeBron being LeBron. This is concerning because Father Time will win someday. Let’s just hope it’s not this year.
2. AD’s second half. I blame this on Ham. After scoring 20 in the first half, he should have focused on getting Davis more than just 4 shots, especially with LeBron having a subpar game. I love how AD is playing but it appeared as if the coach should have made more adjustments to get AD shots. Part of it may be because LeBron was acting as the point guard and making poor decisions down the stretch. AD needs big bounceback games as does LeBron.
3. Russ played well again, athough it’s scary having him make threes. He’s been great coming off the bench and it’s a shame there’s no way to continue that because we need the shooters we can get by trading him. Makes me want to wish there was a way to keep Russ and re-sign him for $10M to be our bench point guard but we all know that won’t work. Happy for Russ as he has shown he can make an adjustment that may keep him in the league.
4. Beverley is gone. Whether his salary is used with Nunn and a pick to sign Terry Rozier, Myles Turner, or Jae Crowder. I love Pat’s fire on D but he has turned into a negative on offense. Fortunately, he can be put to good use in a secondary trade.
5. I still look at the loss to the Jazz as a huge silver lining. There is no question the right Jazz trade could be better than the Pacers trade because the Lakers could end up getting four legitimate rotation players from Utah. The big question will be how badly does Ainge want the Lakers two unprotected picks. They will have to give up Markkanen to get them imo.
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1. Father time won a while back. Anyone refusing to see it is either a blind homer, bron jock rider, or probably both. Dude is cooked and trying to pretend otherwise is really counterproductive at this point.
2. AD’s just not right in the head nor physically. You’ll get some good nights and some crap ones. Trade him before he gets hurt.
3. He’s the only one out there really trying. Too bad he’s just not good, and of course, that contract.
4. Yeah didn’t think he’d make anyone miss THT, and certainly not this quickly. Another guy you’ll need to attach an asset you don’t have to get rid of. May as well ride it out for what’s already another lost season.
5. Trade, trade, trade, trade, trade, blah blah blah ad nauseum. Get over it. It’s probably not happening, already too late. As long as points 1&2 are true, there’s no trade making any notable difference.
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Nice recap Jamie, nice recap Jamie, I agree with everything, but I’m going to cut LeBron some slack. He had been sick in bed since Sunday and could have easily called in sick. I give him props for playing. That said he currently has career lows in several categories so I’m hoping his play picks up.
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What still jumps out at me, Jamie, is that this team is just a couple of smart trades away from being a legitimate contender.
Still the #2 ranked defense in the league, #1 in pace, #4 in rebounding, #6 in steals, and 12th in blocks.
Lakers have a shot at winning next three games to even their record at 5-5 after the first 10 games.
That would be a huge turnaround for Darvin Ham and this roster. They’re a team worth investing more in.
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While Instill would want nothing to do with Kyrie in a Laker uni his gesture of apology seems legit and from the right place. Give critique when deserved and props when they’re earned. Good job, Kyrie.
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That writing was on the wall last season. Sorry for it to end for Steve this way but he was always a surprise hire. Jacque Vaughn hired as interim. Wonder if they let that ride or hire a new coach in-season…
If it’s me, let it ride and let Kyrie walk. Let him find his way on his own. Bring in Snyder or Vogel (or both), make a hard run at some talent with Durant in the fold (or trade him) and rebuild.
This is a hot mess by any measure but it collapsed about as fast as I expected. Kyrie will never not be a loony tune façade of an NBA spokesperson (the talent is undeniable but oh so very much baggage).
Best of luck Steve, enjoy some skateboarding in Venice and your family.
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Word was it was mutual. Nash didn’t want the job any more.
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Why would he? Irving is a daily dumpster fire (for a different reason every day), Durant is so enigmatic he’s more elf than human and Simmons is garbage however you want to frame it. Nash’s job was pure spin. No coaching, those guys don’t listen to coaches. The job should double as PR manager.
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Nets problem is the same as the Lakers problem. Big 3 model only works if one of your big 3 is a top 3 MVP candidate. Not when:
The best of the 3 is getting long in the tooth and still eats up 1/2 the salary cap.
The 2nd star can’t be counted on.
The 3rd max contract is usually a net negative on the court and impossible to trade without the assets you already wasted in getting it here.
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Great post, Jamie. This team plays hard even in losses. My hat off to coach Ham and the players especially Lonnie Walker, Reaves, Russ, and even Gabriel. Not sure what is going on with Nunn and Beverly. I’ve got to keep an eye on them but you certainly touched on them pretty good. Overall, this game, while important to get the first win, is more about team spirit. They definitely checked that, even in losses. Moral of the story: T. E. A. M. = Together Everybody Achieves More.
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Outstanding fiver, Jamie. Can’t disagree with any of your five points. Russ off the bench is working. AD toughing it out. Reaves getting more aggressive. Nunn is now trade fodder. I love what we’re seeing from Lonnie. Big surprise. I would add LeBron playing well and Ham has the defense working. Get the right trade soon enough and this team will be trouble.
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Thanks LT. See above for my latest trade notion. Feels a little more likely to get done but who knows.
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I don’t think Myles is the player you can get without Buddy. He’s the sweetener to get rid of Buddy’s 2-years if the Pacers are tanking, which is the correct call imo.
I think the Lakers need to replace all three starters next to LeBron and AD. The players they need are Terry Rozier at point guard, Buddy Hield at shooting guard, and Myles Turner at center.
The one player whom I think they get by himself without a pick is Terry Rozier. The Hornets are being forced to tank by Miles Bridges situation and Melo Ball’s injury. Rozier is owed $96.2M over 4 years. We could trade Beverley’s $13.0M and Nunn’s $5.2M expiring contracts to save Charlotte over $70M. That’s the trade I would try to make first. Then I would go after Turner and Hield.
I also do think that a trade with the Jazz involving Markkanen, Beasley, Clarkson, and Olynyk for a single pick could be an alternative follow up to a Rozier trade.
That’s where I am today. Rozier trade plus Turner, Hield, and McConnell or Rozier plus Markkanen, Beasley, Clarkson, and Olynyk. That’s what I would do if I were Rob Pelinka.
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We rebounded better. We turned it over too much.
Russ came off the bench, also passed Robert Parish to move up to 29th on the NBA All-Time points list. Congrats Russ.
LeBron passed Karl Malone for most 20+ point games all time. Another milestone broken in a loss. Seems like a theme.
AD didn’t play. Back tweak. Hey, he could still play 81 games…right?
For this Rob got an extension. Awesome. We’re doomed.
Honest critique bumming me out. Nutshell version until the product is worthy of the review. This ain’t that.
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I mean…we all watch hoops, the premise is simple and this team can’t seem to execute. No Russ, nothing changes, also won’t get better with Russ. I’m not one on trades fixing everything, there’s always some glimmer of truth to “the grass is always greener” quote. I haven’t seen a realistic trade proposal yet that fixes this roster. Buddy gets played off the floor when the game needs to be won, can Ham fix that? I sincerely doubt it.
Same goes for Myles. Probably would help the interior defense but his contributions will largely end there. His 34.8% from three isn’t warping the defense to let James shake loose. If anything it will relegate AD to the paint, leave Myles on the 3 point line where he’ll be in both poor rebounding position and abused on the break. That’s a recipe we got down, don’t need to make a trade to see that.
Or he’ll just get hurt. Hasn’t played yet. No news when he will. That’s the guy gonna save the season? I highly, highly doubt that.
I understand the desire to find a magic bullet, replicate what Golden State has accomplished but that’s impossible because of two things: They have been building that team for over a decade now and they have the luxury tax bill to prove it. The Lakers swap pretty much the entire roster in back-to-back summers, won’t consider going heavy into tax territory, if at all, but Buddy Heild and Myles Turner are riding over the ridge like The Riders of Rohan?
Gimmee a break…
Still, we’ll likely trade for them (or someone) at some point. Feels like Rob will feel the pressure to do SOMETHING so it looks like he does more than his jog and his hair every day. What that is I couldn’t fathom if I tried. I’m sure it’s super important, though, whatever it is. Because it ain’t building a winner, that much I know.
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Jamie, if anyone could recall, I have been pushing for the team to sign Melo, and I am glad you brought that up in the 5er. Is there a possibility to still sign him now?
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Nice fiver Jamie,
i agree with most everything except I thought Walker looked good on both sides of the ball. he only hit a couple of his 3’s but i was encouraged by everything else. i look at this roster and wonder how anyone could believe that a trade is going to elevate us into contender status. i dont think even a trade for Dame would do it, if he went on the market. I seriously fo not want us to trade out first rounders without protections, just to be a little better. Next summer there will be several players with size on the wing that will help. Jemari Grant, a friend to Lebron immediately comes to mind. If done right we could actually build a fecent supporting cast. But knowing Rob, he will panic and that cap space will disappear without elevating the Lakers to true contenders.
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AD injury. I almost feel like he hits the ground so much on purpose just so he can have an excuse for sub-par play or to look like a bad-ass when he miraculously overcomes it & plays well.
Zubac. I remember folks saying AD would play him off the floor but he more than held his own. Dude seems to get better each year.
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Man, I got emotional while reading this 5er. As you keep hitting nails on the head I feel like something is eating me inside out. But as a fan what can I do to ease the pain?
Right now, this is incurable. I mean, no doctor can cure this Lakermylitis in me while I am bracing for more losses. Not with this roster and certainly not the front office who have shown nothing but ineptitude. This is a tough pill to swallow. But as a fan of the team, I am at peace with this dilemma and I bracing for more losses. Any unexpected win will go a long way to help ease the pain.
However, it starts from playing hard every game with tough defense being their identity. A game like last night is a good example.
Thanks for such an emotional but candid post, Jamie.
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Nothing positive to say right now. The future looks dim for the season, only mildly brighter beyond. The assemblage of talent this season somehow actually looks worse than last season. At least we got to watch Melo take ridiculous shots once or twice a game. Now we watch meaningless dribbling followed by a bad shot, followed by someone looking at a ref followed by a basket by our opponent.
So, in honor of the idea, here are 5 things I hope to see going forward:
1) Less JTA. Love your story, don’t see you having a lot of impact on the court, and that’s that.
2) AD getting pissed at someone and not cracking jokes on the sideline during losses. Didn’t help last season, won’t help in this one, either. Also, bring back the fro. You shoot better with the fro.
3) Russ playing within the system. Attack from the designed slots, it has created nice looks for you and you have a little more bounce this season. Play well enough and you could end up ona real contender. Just not here.
4) Less pasta throwing with the rotation. Want to see what someone is capable of? Play them more than 15 minutes. Nobody gets it going in 6-7 minutes/half.
5) LBJ needs to play like it’s the playoffs now. Saving yourself for something you won’t be a part of doesn’t make sense. Breaking the penultimate NBA record in a losing season will feel like a waste. Whatever greatness remains, leave it on the court. -
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Last night was an incredibly disappointing game. Losing by 45 points to the Kings, AD not playing due to sore back, Russ pulling a hamstring after just 5 minutes off the bench, poor defense, poor shooting, way too many turnovers. All five starters had -17 to -26 +/-. Not one player had a positive +/- for the night. Not one!
Outscored by 36 points on threes, outrebounded 55 to 37, outscored in the paint 44-32. Lakers posted worst record in preseason at 1-5. If that doesn’t light a fire under Pelinka, nothing will.
The truth is the Lakers desperately need to trade Russ and the picks for Turner and Hield. Turner and Hield will provide the Lakers with the size and shooting they need to be a legitimate contender. Beverley, Hield, James, Davis, and Turner.
Lakers should make trade ASAP. Turner and Hield would become the team’s third and fourth best players immediately, would fix the starting lineup’s size and shooting, and move two starters to the bench, where they really belong.
It’s obvious there is no other deal out there that is better than Turner and Hield. Lakers need to pull the trigger and get their roster fixed before the start of the season. Waiting until 20 games will put us in a hole we will never recover. Dec 15 equals 1/3 of season gone. Feb 9 equas 2/3 of the season gone. Lakers need to move with urgency right now.
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There’s a point where even the blind man sees and the deaf man hears the writing on the wall. Trade will happen next week, maybe even before start of season.
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You must love eating crow and being wrong dude. December, at the earliest, hopefully January but honestly won’t be surprised if it doesn’t happen.
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The Lakers HAVE to trade Russ because if they don’t, they would not have any tradeable contracts other than LeBron and AD.
Ideally, Lakers want to trade Russ for players with tradeable two-year deals.
I think Rob ends up trading Russ for inferior package from Utah or SA to keep one pick, which will not be enough to help the Lakers win this year.
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Sadly Rob (and Jeanie) (and Lebron/RichieP/AD/Other random unKlutch users and sycophants) didn’t have the vision nor bball IQ to completely discount the Bubble and know what they were dealing with. Blowing it up and ditching fan un-favorites like Danny Green and some bumbling bigs, was a fool-hardy move but not one they couldn’t recover from. Lebron feeling his own mortality finally led to the Russ move, and that was the nail in the coffin.
There’s no sense in trading for anything the drags this out any further. The Lebron/AD combination is too old and fragile at this point to make any serious noise short of landing a true top-5 talent which is simply not possible. Sure, Jeanie’s always lived under the sad guises of “Any publicity is good publicity,” which unfortunately just isn’t true any more. She’d rather they keep talking about the failure that is the Lebron James Lakers era, than not say anything at all. Well good for her. So far I haven’t made any effort to get any way to watch the local games, and I certainly am not going to waste any time going to crappy DTLA to watch this sorry bunch play. All this useless wheel spinning to remain unable to improve for another 3 seasons, for what? To suck in the name of being “player friendly?”
The friendliest thing they could’ve done was blow this dumpster fire up.
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I’d like to see some stretches with PatBev & Dennis in the backcourt together just defensively harassing teams on the perimeter with AD lurking at the rim. Wish Dennis coulda been there for the entire camp…what was up with his visa anyway? This dude a spy or sum sh!t?….lol
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Lotta guys talking about what coach brings. Whether it be confidence in much maligned players like Westbrook or Schroder, letting AD loose in a way Frank evidently could not, or just getting some end of the bench guys a solid chance to shine it’s clear that, to this early point, Ham is the biggest Lakers acquisition.
How we do out of the gate is going to be huge. Closing out preseason on a high note can help but the Lakers need to try and kick off this true season with a big win over a semi-reeling (at least internally). Last season the narrative controlled our team. Our poor performances were prophetic for bad basketball and everyone came out tarnished. Nobody will look back on last season as something positive. I know I don’t.
At any rate, the biggest move the Lakers made wasn’t a massive trade other than sending THT to The Phantom Zone. It was bringing in Ham. Now, personally I wish we had cleaned house a little more thoroughly. I consider Rob to be an awful GM, a terrible evaluator of talent, and poor example of leadership because the buck stops anywhere but on his desk. He is, at best, a yes man who lucked into the Bubble banner. At worst he is utterly inept and will continue to make poor choices that will lead to a full tear down. If we had better draft assets I’d be down. We don’t because of Rob. You can even take the AD trade away because that was Klutch as much as Rob. Same for LeBron when Magic was in charge.
Is Ham enough? We’ll see. Preseason has been encouraging but that’s not a good predictor of NBA success. Only winning is. So let’s keep these good times rolling. Ham will either lead this team to something the experts don’t see but I can at least imagine.
That’s not a prediction but a hope. I don’t think we’ll trade Russ until February, if then. I don’t know who will start or finish games but I know coach is smart enough not to say something about finding a permanent rotation and sticking with it. There are some encouraging signs, albeit few of them. As a modern Lakers fan you gotta take what you can get.
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I’m going into this with no expectations. There’s so much that has to fall into place just for us to be middle of the pack. D.Ham seems to be a good pick but who da hell knows? Not sure if this season in this situation is the best opportunity for him to show his talents. Even going forward past this season, we’re in a tough spot considering the roster construction, lack of assets, an aging Lebron, and friggin Rob still in his job.
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Nice 5 Jamie, I like a Bryant as well. But AD has seen the majority of his minutes at the 5. In a way it makes sense because LeBron hasn’t looked good defending the wing the last couple of years. I think we will bet a better view of what coach Ham is thinking over the next couple of games. As for Ryan, that was a great breakout for him. If can bring that over the next couple of games I could see the Lakers signing him to a non guaranteed contract where they have a couple of months to evaluate him. They could always cut him if a favorable trade arises. Shooting is one of the team’s biggest needs and if he can shoot consistently it wouldn’t be any worse than trading for Buddy. Plus he is 6’ 7” which doesn’t hurt either. As for Nunn, while I expected him to be good but he has exceeded my expectations. For a guy that has missed an entire year, he looks in mid season form. Heck he has looked even better then I thought he could. I also like him off the bench, but if we aren’t making enough 3’s early on I wouldn’t hesitate to add him to the starting 5. I havve no idea how many games this group will win in the loaded West. But if healthy they will play hard and should be an entertaining group to watch.
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While I can see the logic of AD at the 5 I have a hard time seeing that work for a full 48. Not really because of Davis but because of how small the rest of the team is. Starting a big moves everyone down a slot and increases both the starting line up size and also the overall line up size. Still, could see Ham deploy AD, James, and 3 guards. Next two games will provide a little insight.
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This 5er is right on point. I would say my biggest disappointment is AD disappearing in the second half. I am still scratching my head as to what went wrong, but that is unacceptable.
Lebron hasn’t looked like himself since he got sick. And now with the ankle injury, it’s going to be another slow process to get back to full strength. This was a winnable game had LeBron and AD played close to their strengths.
They Lakers were caught off guard to start the game. Allowing 75 points in the first half was just very bad and if you let the opponent shoot 60% from the 3-point range your chance of winning is almost nonexistent.
Also, Pat Beverly deserves a Westbrook-size criticism for being awol so far, though Westbrook has been the best player the last couple of games. As you said, I am seeing Dennis take his minutes when he gets back from his injury. Your take on Ryan playing more in the second half is right on the money.
Overall, though, I am seeing a Lakers team that is starting to figure things out. We haven’t even played a team below 500 yet, so there is optimism in my mind. Thanks for the post, Jamie.