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With pretty much everyone back but Rui we really can’t use injuries as an excuse anymore, never really should have allowed themselves that luxury to begin with but here we are. With a clear-all film session and some practice time at home the lack of familiarity shouldn’t be an excuse, see above and so here we are. We have a some more hom games coming up and don’t travel further than Utah for a couple weeks and come the end of january up to the deadline we’ll be on the road so this stretch is essential for us to right the ship and get back to playing like we did on the weird court. The time is now.
- Whether he starts or comes off the bench D’Angelo Russell is a huge part of this team’s success. Honestly, I prefer him starting over Reaves and I’m personally still curious as to why the lineup that bulldozed it’s way to the NBA Playin isn’t getting a shot but one way or the other the Lakers need an active and engaged DLo. He’s the one player that I think truly gives LeBron on-court rest. He played well on offense down the stretch, was able to hold his own on D, and we needed that to pull out that win against the Clippers.
- Coaching for the moment in the moment. Sometimes I think Coach Ham puts 5 guys in around the 5 minute mark and just let’s it roll. He rides and dies with one group of guys, a lot, while often times the other coach is swapping offense for defense, running bread & butter plays for easy buckets, and working hard to orchestrate a win all while our coach looks on with his hands in his warm ups. This is why our good friend and colleague, Magicman aka Sean Grice (who could use some good mojo these days) has dubbed him Pockets. T’was not to be against the Clippers as we saw solid defense for offense moves made when he subbed Vando in for DLo and I prefer Vando to Cam when it comes to overall defensive impact. Cam is more of a gambler which is great. When it works; however those gambles can lead to some of the easiest buckets a player will see in their career if he comes up empty. Vando is a better in-scheme defender and we stymied the Clippers enough down the stretch to pull out the W. Coach ham made good moves with his players down the stretch and it was a welcome sight indeed.
- Reaves forcing/fishing les is a good thing. I thought that Austin started to force his game as the losses mounted and it didn’t help the situation. I’m sure he would love to prove he’s worth every penny of his new deal as soon as possible but the truth is he just needs to play his game, the one that got him that deal in the first place. So while Reaves didn’t have much of an impact on the box score and his personal stats don’t jump out at you I thought this was one of his better games of late. He stayed aggressive and led the Lakers in FTA (in a game in which neither team shot many), missed every three he took but didn’t hang his head and kept the ball moving so the next guy could make a play when he saw the defense key in on him.
- Stats are funny. They almost never tell you a true story. Against Memphis we dominated most categories and lost big, but vs. the Clippers we played them pretty evenly and won. That’s why the only stat that really matters is the final score.
- Need to make a push in the standings. Golden State probably won’t be imploding forever, Utah is more like the Pacers than people think (they don’t mind winning now and making the playin would be awesome for that team) a lot of teams folks seem to write off are storming up the standings while we’ve been plummeting, time to switch that up and play tough against the Warriors (“Nutshot” green should be back any day now), Jazz (11-4 in their last 15) and Rockets (the new OKC with enough youth to not give a fuq and the vets to help make it all work) in the coming weeks. We didn’t find our footing at home right away, we need to start piling up wins and do well on the road trip that leads up to the deadline. Once that date comes and goes, however it works out, the Lakers need to keep their cool and force their way back into the playoff picture one game at a time.
Shout out to Max Christie who had a solid game and Christian Wood who has (rightly, IMO) replaced the mostly ineffectual Hayes off the bench. Again.
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Do not adjust your TV set, this is exactly how the Lakers look right now: disjointed, dispirited and disappearing from the western conference playoff picture one game at a time. Despite having most of the core that went to the WCF’s on the floor for the vast majority of the season the coach continues to list injuries/health as the main culprit in these losses. Digging further down gives us a different picture, though.
- AD and LBJ showing up, mostly. You can see Davis is playing maybe his best regular season basketball as a Laker, ever, right now. He’s manning the paint, altering shots, rebounding as well as can be expected and he’s not slouching on offense either as he leads the team in PPG. This is what passing the torch should look like on AD’s end. James, since the IST, has looked like he’s in some kind of cruise control mode and is still managing to post a respectable line every night. So, while the days of leBron putting s team on his shoulders and willing them to a decent seeding in the playoffs are well and done it’s hard to ask for much more from the Lakers’ super star duo.
- Coach keeps talking about injuries, most of the guys are back, are we that banged up?! In a word: no. While D’Angelo Russell was certainly considered a major piece in the offseason his minutes have been steadily declining for weeks now and he rarely played int he 4th quarter all season long. The two way dream for him, while vastly optimistic, is indeed DOA. Russell himself has labeled his skill set as “scorer” with his “I know how to do one thing well” quote. Gabe Vincent has barely played at any point and Rui was out last night with another injury. Still, if Reaves, Cam, Wood and vando aren’t enough to help AD and LBJ get a W when the heat were without Jimmy-B and a host of their own quality role-players then the Lakers are cooked already when it comes to hope in the playoffs. It’s sadm sorry, busted-ass excuse and Coach Ham needs to suck it up and admit the team isn’t playing hard or for one another right now and that starts with him. Keep trotting out “health and innuries” and you’ll be hearing “thoughts’ and prayers” in regards to your coaching career.
- Why haven’t we seen the neat-O starting five that got us to the playoffs in the first place? Good question, one I ask myself fairly regularly, and the answer is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. In this instance the availability of that particular has, admittedly, been spotty. Still, when the chance has arisen for them to play as a unit that has not really happened and that, again, is on the coach. That lineup has the chemistry, defense, scoring and playmaking in balance. It allows for Rui, Cam and Wood to feast on bench guys while playing with one of Lebron and AD and one of Reaves and DLo. Yet we’ve seen just about every other lineup other than that one, some mystifying in nature.
- Wood’s best game in weeks. I like Wood as a post-passer in set plays, it gives the defense a hard choice when he gets the ball on the block and it allows for AD and others to cut to the rim for an easy bucket. C-Dub put up a nice line while also managing to join the brick parade from three. He, along with every laker not named ‘Reaves’ or ‘Christie’ missed every three pointer they took which led to some easy offense for Miami and that, in a nutshell, was the game.
- When it comes to the three ball let success be your guide. We’re not a good three point shooting team and the volume we’re taking them out after the IST is putting us in a massive hole from which no amount of defensive adjustments can dig us out of. Consider that in 2023 we shot 34.9%, this after adding shooters and empowering the ones we had to let it fly and that’s up from last season by .5%. So now that we can’t blame Russell Westbrook for our terrible awful shooting, since we added the legendary offense creating five-out sets and since we have a healthy LBJ and AD actually shooting a decent clip from three…what the heck is going on? My answer is too many threes, especially when you’re clanging shot after shot after shot after shot. I get that the only way to make one is to take one but that’s also how you score the basketball from literally any and every other spot on the floor. Floater/ Can’t make ’em unless you take ’em! 12 foot pick and pop from the spot you’ve been shooting from since you were 12? Can’t make ’em if you don’t take ’em! And so on. We basically scored off of every single turnover we created (10 TOs, 22 points), out scored them at the free throw line by 10, killed them in the paint 60-42 and outrebounded them by 11. All of it was for nothing because our half court sets basically ended up in three pointers and not drives to the rim. Think about this: out of the 35 made FGs 10 of those were in transition off of turnovers or rebounds, we took 83 total shots, 30 of those were threes accounting for 36% of our attempts. The 22 turnovers (which Miami only scored 6 points off of) didn’t help either but had we kept that number in the low twenties not only does the efficiency improve but so, too, does the quality of shot taken…for this particular team. Again, if someone is hot let it fly. please and by all means. But just consider, give it a thought, attacking the paint when that three ball is clanging and banging.
With the “disconnect” report coming out and the Lakers clinging to the final playn spot over the equally pathetic Warriors there is increasingly little room for error. Someone needs to rally the troops, somebody needs to galvanize the locker room, so far nobody has.
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One great move by LBJ is attacking the rim, but that comes with a body beating every game and few fouls called. He shouldn’t have to do that every game at 39! I also think LBJ is very down with the poor play from all, not named Reavsy and AD. Not sure he’s into Hamster either.
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Life has been crazy since a little after my birthday (11/8) and I haven’t carved out time to post 5ers. So thanks for your patience, folks. We square off against a Knicks team that has been playing really well, especially on defense, and the combo of Randle and brunson is meshing better and better. They have high impact role-players and tough-minded coach. Could be considered our ‘sister team’ in terms of overall identity except that our stars are better than their stars, usually.
- Anthony Davis matters more than LeBron in terms of impacting overall winning. Don’t get it too twisted, LBJ still the King and scoring gets a lot more difficult without the gravity he creates simply by dribbling 35 feet away from the hoop, but on the other end the Lakers take a massive step back without Davis. If our last game against the woebegone Spurs didn’t prove that to folks I’m not sure what will. The SPurs handed us the business over the last 5 quarters we’ve played them starting with the 4th quarter of the game we won. Barely. Without AD stymying the Spurs in the paint and his ability to hedge and allow lesser perimeter defenders to close we couldn’t keep the Spurs from bombing away from distance. Add into that our rebounding woes (something both Hayes or Wood seem incapable of doing well) and we’re a terrible team on D when AD sits.
- Developing youth while trying to win. This is always the issue with teams built around aging stars. The Warriors are going through it now, too. With a core pf AD and LeBron the playoff window is firmly open now. So how do you add development into that, especially when development in the NBA means on-court time during games that count towards making it in the playoffs? It’s a balancing act that even a decorated coach like lil Stevie Kerr struggles with as he faces the task of possibly phasing out banner winning players from their assumed roles in favor of younger, hungrier players albeit with far less polish to their games. So second year coach Ham certainly has a daunting task of figuring out how to get guys like Max Christie meaningful minutes to see what he can do at this level. In about 5 mor MPG than he played last season (which were generally garbage time minutes) his efficiency is down. He’s taking more shots (4.4 vs. 2.6) and making about the same (1.7 vs. 1.1, respectively) and coupled with his assist not ticking upward while his turnovers are and his overall lack of an impact on defense it’s easy to understand the chorus of lakers fans clamoring for more of an end of the bench role for Max. The issue of course being some young Laker at some point is going to have to stick besides Reaves. So, while I’m not championing an increased role for Max specifically, his deal is up and we’ll likely lose him to free agency (unless he’s a throw in for a trade that seems equitable to another team as a late first rounder/second round pick would be). The Lakers need to develop from within to get quality role players on cheap deals to augment our super star duo, there’s no way around it.
- The vet minimum guys. We’re seeing what the NBA vet minimum gets us: guys like Wood and Hayes who have limited use on the court. Cam has stood out because, of the three, he seems to realize that his next deal will also be another vet minimum if he doesn’t find a way to be a contributor. Not everyone can be a star in the NBA. Everyone in the NBA was probably “the guy” on their various teams…until they got to the NBA. Then you go from getting the ball on most plays to being asked to box out and set screens, do the grunt work you used to get someone else to do for you. Cam, if he keeps balling out on D and making the open shots that come his way, will get a raise next summer. Hayes and Wood? I’m not so sure. Hayes looks like a high upside guy until you watch him not play with verticality (he starts well but that arm just can’t stop itself from reaching for the block) and Wood is streaky that his outside shot isn’t enough of a threat to create meaningful space. Teams will happily and gladly let Christian Wood try to beat us and since he’s neither a good defender or roll man he found himself at the end of the bench until injuries gave him an opening. We saw how that worked out in the 4th quarter against our “win” against the Spurs when they started attacking him and stormed right back into a game we should have controlled.
- Austin Reaves off the bench. Of all the moves Ham has made this season this one has worked the best by a country mile. Reaves has not only found his offense torching other bench defenders but he’s making more and more plays for his teammates. If he could work on his defense and just get better at cutting off drives he’d be in the convo for 6th man of the year. He gamely tries to take charges but good defense is so much more than stats like that. Honestly, good defense generally doesn’t show up on the stat sheet and is often un-rewarded come contract time. Still, it remains THE key component of teams with banner aspirations and for Reaves it’s still a work in progress.
- Should the Lakers make a trade? You guys know me, I’m Mr. Stand Pat and see how it works out. This season, given LBJ and AD’s age and the tools we have to work with in terms of draft capital going forward, I don’t see how we can’t and expect to get to the NBA Finals. The number one player I’d expect the Lakers to try and trade would be none other than D’Angelo Russell who has shown to be basically what he was as a laker. A streaky combo guard who has a limited impact on D. When he’s on he can be great. When he’s not we are left with a gaping hole in the backcourt. It’s not being filled by Max, and certainly not by “why did we pick this guy” JHS. Reaves and LeBron can’t fill it and so that leaves us with what could be available for a package built around DLO and likely Max in a trade. Complicating matters is that DLo’s deal isn’t an expiring one, he has a player option he’s pretty likely to pick up. While not a guarantee I don’t see his earning power as having increased this eason in a meaningful way. As a young player Max will be in line for a new deal (thanks Rob…) so the package isn’t really one based around salary relief. You have to want to want DLo and see something worth paying Max for to get anything other than some draft picks several years away. Those, while valuable, aren’t as compelling as what other teams can offer for prime talent. So we need to scour teams imploding who want to change things up without blowing it up. In my opinion those teams are the Bulls, Grizzlies (especially if they struggle when Morant comes back), Jazz, Trailblazers and Raptors. While I don’t think we have enough to offer for the prime talent on those teams there are players who are attainable in the price range we can meet. I expect us to deal with one, or more, of those teams as the deadline approaches. I also don’t see Gabe Vincent as viable trading chip until he proves he can play. He’s got two years left on his deal after this one, teams aren’t going to pay a guy to sit with a bum knee for that price tag for a couple of draft picks 5 years out.
Got to win tonight folks and get back on the right side of winning. Losing tonight probably knocks us back to the bottom of the playin. We need to stay in the top 6, hopefully fight our way into the top 3 or 4. Only way to do that is by beating quality teams and that’s something we’ve been pretty iffy on this season. So far.
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Thanks dude! Was always checking in but just didn’t make time to drop thoughts or comment.
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Was worried about you. Thought something serious was wrong with you, but glad you are doing well. Tonight’s game against the Knicks will tell a lot about our resolve and will determine where we are in the standings. Hate to see the Clippers ahead of us by half a game.
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In the end the road trip was a wash. Could have been worse, could have been better. Really just sort of treaded water from what we started with. Key guys hurt stayed hurt, lost a couple more guys. Stayed around the 6th seed. While neither thrilling nor inspiring they got enough of the job done.
- First big roadie ( 4 games) and won half of ’em. For a lot of teams coming home .500 on a multi-city and time zone road trip would be great. Record-wise, it is. Went from 6th to 7th in the last 5 games after dropping the last home game and losing against the 76ers and the Thunder. What’s slightly more worrisome is the Lakers continued inability to run with the big dogs of the NBA. While dealing with injuries the Lakers are having to feast on the sub .500 portion of the schedule while struggling to keep teams that are younger and healthier. Teams like OKC have given the Lakers fits in recent years and the Thunder just got better with Holmgren being available and a year for that squad to grow. Philly looks so much better with Harden gone it’s almost funny. We really failed to meet the challenge in both games from a physicality and completive standpoint as a team.
- Help is on the way! One third of the team sounds like they’re approaching “questionable/probable” on the injured status front. That’s good. With only Gabe Vincent completely ruled out of the game tomorrow night and the rest will likely be at best game day and more likely game time decisions the light at the end of this forlorn tunnel may be approaching. It’s been hard to truly gauge what the Lakers need simply because so many keys guys have been out for so many games. Rui has been out twice with injuries from in-game incidents. Vincent’s knee seems to have mildly blown up. Cam Reddish went down as soon as he got going and Vando’s been out abasically since camp started. Add in a few missed games here and there for others and (Hayes for more than a handful now) and the portrait remains very much a work in progress when it comes to getting the full picture of what this team can do.
- Big fish, small pond. Last season out of the gate we couldn’t beat anyone, 2-10 losing to teams good and bad so it’s nice to see that we’ve improved in the “winning the games you really, really should” department. It’s given us a little breathing room in terms of overall mojo (in the locker room and the public forum I would imagine) to get guys back in the lineup with time before the trading deadline approaches.
- Speaking of the approaching kind of, mostly, all the players can be traded day (aka 12/15 of every year). The Lakers will certainly be gauging the market but depending on how they value DLo and Rui. Given his injury status it’ll be hard for me to see a trade go through with Gabe’s deal attached (2 years after this at about $11 mil each) but I’m sure we’ll see some floated. Evidently Reaves is nigh untouchable? Not sure I personally agree with that but it shows the Lakers may have learned the Caruso Lesson as well as could be hoped for. While not a superstar he is pretty consistent and on a pretty team-friendly deal. That’s not the worst thing and it would take a pretty good return for me to justify moving him based solely on how well he fits into what AD an LBJ do. The next trade alert date will be 1/15/24 when a few more players hit the market and the deadline isn’t long after that, Thursday 2/8/24.
- 20 games in (roughly one-fifth of the season) and we’ve treaded water. Like I said, not wowing anyone but LeBron and AD have been pretty solid in the ways expected. AD isn’t in the MVP convo, LeBron could be with a couple more close games given his output. The issue generally being if either DLo doesn’t kind of go off or 3-4 guys don’t score efficiently in double-digits, the Lakers tend to lose. Sometimes really big. AD has been a potential DPOY candidate (certainly in line for an All Defense kind of recognition) thus far, LeBron’s been more then hoped for, and the depth was tested very early. While maybe not coming through with flying colors they’ve come through positively. Plus .500 record, playing pretty well at home (an area we struggled with last season) and flirting with a true playoff spot.
With another game against Houston the backdrop will likely be the ongoing Brooks and The King quibble, mostly from the Brooks side of things. Don’t sleep on this squad though, they’re going to play at a pace and energy similar to OKC. Hopefully get a player or three back by then.
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I guess it was more of a ‘clunk’ than a ‘clang’, honestly. Not much, if anything at all. good to take away from this one. Effort? Nonexistent. Execution? Abysmal. What’s even more alarming was that this loss continues a to this point season-long trend of not meeting the moment against playoff caliber teams. Sub .500/fringe contenders? We’re killing it. Elite teams? Ehhhh…notsomuch.
- AD was shown the business by Embiid in every way possible. OK, they both had 11 rebounds and a block and steal. That’s not the issue, though, the issue is that when his team needed a bucket Joel got one and he got one from wherever he was. Three pointers, offensive rebound tip ins, pick and pops, you name it and Embiid canned it. We got two quick fouls attacking him in the fist quarter and then basically turned into midrange jump shooting team. AD passed up several open three pointers for meandering dribbles and lazy possessions. Every Lakers fan would love to see Davis in the MVP convo and last night was a stark reminder of why that’s unlikely to ever happen.
- Lakers had no answer for Maxey. The game’s leading scorer was unbothered by any defense the Lakers threw at him. He carved us up off the dribble, he carved us off of screen and rolls, honestly I didn’t see this much carving since Thanksgiving a couple days earlier. He left the Laker defense in tiny chunks of meat scattered over the court. Feel free to blame injuries but at some point it’s really just a matter of effort and pride, two things we didn’t bring to the game at any point. That’s on the player’s for playing like utter shit and the staff for not looking like they had ever seen the guy play before.
- 76ers letting it rain. Not only could we not stop Maxey or Embiid but we basically stopped closing out on three point shooters after the jump. All but 3 players on the 76ers made a three pointer and they played the entire team last night. Of the meaningful players only Tobias Harris went 0fer from distance. Again, a matter of the heart you have for the game. Or in this case a lack thereof.
- LeBron james has played the most combined NBA minutes of anyone on planet Earth. Whee. I think he feels about the same why I do, too.
- Redemption? After the off day today we have a roadie back-to-back against Detroit and OKC. I’m sure a lot of fans have that Piston’s game circled as an automatic win but if what we saw last night is representative of what the Lakers are capable of that could end up being one of the most unexpected losses of the season. Here are some tips for the team: stop whining to the refs on every shot. Did you get hit? Probably but it’s not gonna change the tenor of the game they’re calling. Should the 76ers have been called for at least one defensive three seconds call? Sure, but we lost by the amount of money my wife saves at the store when she uses coupons so we’re talking about a drop in the bucket. The only way to be better is to compete harder, not look at a the refs to bail you out of your terrible choice. Be better.
I think we get Cam back which should help a little but to expect ond or two guys to be the balm of what looks to me mostly like an effort issue isn’t the answer. The team has to choose to compete nightly the same way they did for the in-season tourney games. That’s it, not brain surgery. Go get it.
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Nice post Jamie. Yes it was ugly and we did seem to give up somewhere in the 3rd after closing within 11. Still that 40 to 14 4th quarter was the result of a couple of bench players and our g leaguers. The problem is we will beat not the best teams missing this many guys. We could have made it closer but we could not win. Our 3 best perimeter defenders are on the self and that’s where they beat us. Pat, Morris and Melton was a combined 11 for 16 from 3. I don’t think that would happen if we were healthy. And then throw in Rui who isn’t an elite defender but he is head and shoulders above Wood who is demonstrating why he is considered a bad defender, only he is not providing offense to make up for it. Hopefully we go all in on beating Detroit. If we lose to OKC, a 2-2 road trip under the circumstances isn’t awful. It looks like we may have every one but Vincent back within a week. And we need everyone if we are to beat the best teams.
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Thanks Michael, I get it. Guys are hurt. That doesn’t explain the half-hearted close outs, not getting back, not boxing out and generally poor showing in all the effort categories we’ve seen from the team all season long. Especially against teams to whom we were compared to before the season began.
Sure, our G-leaguers got blown out but they’re supposed to be auditioning for something more than garbage tme status and they utterly blew that, too. So, while I can sympathize with the plight I don’t in any way think this level of blow out is something that is coupled with competitive NBA level effort. Everyone has got to show up better.
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Yep. I still think we have a tendency to waaaay overrate our benchers, even DLO.
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I wish I could give this fiver a thousand thumps up. Well laid out, Jamie!! Most importantly, you nailed it.