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    • Lakers stuff @about the 4:25 mark. Sounds like Lebron needs to drop all the way down to $30mill (ouch!!!) and we lose Christie in order to open up that MLE. That’s about a $20mill haircut for LBJ; about double what was 1st being reported.

      • It’s hard for me to imagine that he’ll give up that much cash. I don’t care how grateful he might for us drafting Jr.

        • LeBron’s dreaming of winning an NBA championship with his son. That’s what’s more important than the money right now. Fascinating possibility. Never saw this coming but I love it and hope Rob will take advantage of it.

          • The problem is that (as Michael H. just said) this FA class isn’t very strong at all so it’s doubtful that him giving up the money will actually move us up the ladder in the West all that much. We’re most likely gonna be a 5th seed at best no matter what.

        • We also brought in JayJay The Basketball Messiah for him. This paycut mighta been part of that whole plan (after Hurley told us to kick rocks….lol).

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    • lol, no way. You yourself said it’s nigh-impossible to replace DLo and now we’re just a team full of bigs.

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    With the news that Christian Wood and Jaxon Hayes are opting in on very cheap/cap friendly deals I think we need to look almost exclusively at wings and big, mobile guards under 87 years old. That takes Klay and CP3 out of the mix. With the Lakers extending Castleton the 2 way QO it shows they intend to keep him unless another team actually offers him a contract (and maybe even they choose to match it). At the very least it looks like they did the young man a solid by guaranteeing him a raise if someone else wants him.

    AD, Jax and Wood, LeBron and Vando are enough big bodies. Between the 4 there’s enough good, shooting and skill to compete in the regular season. If we have the ponies for LM from Utah or KO from Toronto I’d be cool with that, I’d also be cool trading one if Wood or Jax along with Rui to Chicago for Vucevic.

    But then we have to use the MLE, should it be available, on a wing. Kinda doubt Tobias Harris will come for the full MLE but we could slot DeMar DeRozan at the 3 (doubt he’d be happy coming off the bench, at least to start the season but who knows…insert wish for a coach who has done this before and understands how to talk to vets properly…) but that still trends toward old and under-sized. Grant looks too pricey given his impact in winning but there’s an argument that it’s his situation and not specifically him. Still, not sure we have the ponies for that race.

    So here’s a list, in no particular order, of wings under 35 who can contribute on both ends that could be had for the MLE (IMO):
    -Precious Achiuwa
    -Tobias Harris (this one is a stretch in logic honestly)
    -Kelly Oubre (personal top choice)
    -Saddiq Bay
    -Naji Marshall (could challenge for a starting spot honestly)

    Staying away from the Covington’s and Hayward’s as my hope is we get younger and not older and that we focus as much in defense as much as shooting.

    Current State of Mind

    With the news that Christian Wood and Jaxon Hayes are opting in on very cheap/cap friendly deals I think we need to look almost exclusively at wings and big, mobile guards under 87 years old. That takes Klay and CP3 out of the mix. With the Lakers extending Castleton the 2 way QO it shows they intend to keep him unless another team actually offers him a contract (and maybe even they choose to match it). At the very least it looks like they did the young man a solid by guaranteeing him a raise if someone else wants him.

    AD, Jax and Wood, LeBron and Vando are enough big bodies. Between the 4 there’s enough good, shooting and skill to compete in the regular season. If we have the ponies for LM from Utah or KO from Toronto I’d be cool with that, I’d also be cool trading one if Wood or Jax along with Rui to Chicago for Vucevic.

    But then we have to use the MLE, should it be available, on a wing. Kinda doubt Tobias Harris will come for the full MLE but we could slot DeMar DeRozan at the 3 (doubt he’d be happy coming off the bench, at least to start the season but who knows…insert wish for a coach who has done this before and understands how to talk to vets properly…) but that still trends toward old and under-sized. Grant looks too pricey given his impact in winning but there’s an argument that it’s his situation and not specifically him. Still, not sure we have the ponies for that race.

    So here’s a list, in no particular order, of wings under 35 who can contribute on both ends that could be had for the MLE (IMO):
    -Precious Achiuwa
    -Tobias Harris (this one is a stretch in logic honestly)
    -Kelly Oubre (personal top choice)
    -Saddiq Bay
    -Naji Marshall (could challenge for a starting spot honestly)

    Staying away from the Covington’s and Hayward’s as my hope is we get younger and not older and that we focus as much in defense as much as shooting.

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    • Now if LeBron has a list of players he’ll reduce salary for that changes a lot.

      • It’s funny to me that all the click bait guys seem to think the Lakers need offense and it’s all about shooters. The Lakers were 6th in scoring and I believe 7th in 3 point shooting percentage. Now we didn’t take enough 3’d but I think JJ will fix that. We need to improve our defense. I like Marshall as well. But I don’t think he’s a name that LeBron will take a pay cut for. If Vando and Vincent are healthy that will help. Since he barely played, fans tend to forget that Vincent is a highly regarded on ball defender. We didn’t sign him for his offense although he was a capable offensive player during the Heats playoff run last year. Biggest problem for the Lakers is it’s a weak free agent class and solid 2 way players are expensive.

        • Spot on. It’s always perplexing to me as well when folks say “All we need is a coupla 3&D guys” as if there’s a buncha these guys just sitting around the parking lot at Home Depot waiting to be picked up. Quality guys like this are rare and 2 of the better ones (Murray & Bridges) are already off the board.

    • I wouldn’t mind seeing KCP coming back either. Lebron might take that big pay cut for a fellow Klutch brother.

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    • Not sure if there is a difference between a regular qualifying offer and a two-way qualifying offer. Does this mean that Colin has earned a roster spot? Or does he remain a two-way player? We did sign two new two-way players so Colin c/b third two-way.

      A little more research. Colin would have a year to sign agreement even though Lakers can cancel two-way contracts at will. Just means if he is approached by another team Lakers can match if he accepts qualifying offer, which presumably pays him more? Who knows. So far, Reaves is only Lakers two-way to turn into standard contract.

      • This is smart. I still think this dude has a path to being a solid backup.

        • I watched him in the G league some. He has some skill. Great passer. I thought he needed to get stronger. He could be moved. Reports are that he has been working on his body and his 3 point shot. I hope they keep him.

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    • “SF: Jarred Vanderbilt (? Rui would make no sense starting for defense)”/ per whoever this guy on X is???? Seriously??? Playing Vanderbilt (who should be dealt asap) with a questionable at this point in his career Klay Thompson would be 3.5 Lakers on offense versus 5 defenders…….Did Vanderbilt hand out free blow the minute he hit LA????

      • People don’t pay attention. Rui had a 113.9 defensive rating as a starter. Thats pretty good. It’s no coincidence that we were one of the best teams down the stretch after Ham finally put him in the starting lineup.

        • Michael, I continue to value your quality assessments. Your analysis are always excellent. I only rely on my eye test to break down games, but having statistics to analyze player performance like you and Tom do, is top notch. Keep up the good work, man!! For me, while the Lakers do not have the assets to make a big splash in this free-agency, I am sensing something of a big magnitude brewing. For example, Kelly Oubre Jr: An unrestricted free agent, Oubre’s valuation is around $14 million. The Lakers might consider him as an option.
          As for my intuition about something big brewing, it’s possible! While the Lakers lack significant assets for trades, they’ll have to continue to explore free agency options in the hopes of convincing the free agents. Keep an eye out for any surprises! I pray that I am not wrong.

      • No, he hustles, plays solid PoA D and has improved his game until he got hurt. Folks under-sell on Vando a lot. I don’t, I’m a big believer but we’ll just see how it all shakes out. Not too worried about rotations since we don’t have a complete picture, yet.

        • I’m the “under-seller” on Vanderbilt….I feel much more comfortable with the Max Christie contract, I believe announced today, $32 million for 4 years. Would be great to find a taker for Vanderbilt’s $48 million/4 year…it’ll be hard to move, I feel. Maybe part of a trade for someone like Klay (sign and traceable?…I’m not a CBA expert….or expert at much….except the Lakers need a big, durable playable center)….

    • Klay ain’t that dude anymore and hasn’t been for quite some time. Those injuries just decimated him. His shot is no longer reliable and the defense is way below what it used to be. LeBron likes to play with a buncha vets but this would be a mistake.

      • I don’t think LeBron wants just those players but he wants Lakers to go all-in, which is generally what they’re never able to arrive at a consensus to do.Thus, they never close the deal on a coveted player.

        The Lakers need to use the picks and swaps and the NT MLE to upgrade two of the starters. LeBron has given them the power to do this within the rules. Now Pelinka has no excuse other than to deliver.

        As for the MLE, I’m not a fan of Klay. That’s where we should look to get a solid veteran center who can protect the rim when AD rests. Jonas, although I love what Kelly Olynyk could do.

        The trade is where we look for a starting center (Kelly Olynyk) or wing (Cam Johnson, Dorian Finney-Smith), a true 3&D wing.

        • AD is and will be the starting g center. LeBron will start at the 4. It’s funny this is still a debate since literally every effort to move him to the 4 has made the team measurably worse on both ends of the floor. Even in the title year where he was the “4” he played a lot of minutes at center in the regular season and was almost exclusively the center in the playoffs. Better off going for wings or bigger guards. Honestly, I’d kick the tires on a Jordan Clarkson for Rui & JHS kind of move. Instant offense off the bench. Need some more bench firepower, if we can manage it.

          • About a month ago, Mason Plumlee came to my mind, he moves fairly well, plays physical, yes not a starter probably since days at Duke, but was thinking his minutes could be upped to 16-22/game (yeah, he’s never been an offensive threat but neither has Vanderbilt)….thought he would be a good addition, but saw he signed with Suns today for $3.3 M….Lakers still will have the two non-physical backup center/power forwards in Wood, and Hayes….

    • Amazing take again Thomas. He and Lebron can be starters and the All-NBA all washed team. Maybe Lebron’ll take the minimum and we can sign PG13.

      • My take on that is PG13 should take the minimum and give LeBron all he can be paid…(just when thinking about those two)…..and agree with Tom and a few others, Klay is a shell of himself, reminds me a little about how the Lakers were the final stop for Carmelo Anthony…

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      • Doubtful he has that intricate a knowledge of the CBA. He probably thinks if he takes a couple million less, they can get Giannis or something.

    • Only guy I’d take outta those 3 is JV and we have bigger needs than another center. I hope his list is a bit longer than this….if any of this is actually true at all .

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    • Smart will turn 31 next season. He may not have fresh legs like he used to, but he’s still in his NBA prime. His alpha persona, stifling defense, and scoring capabilities can make him a valuable addition to teams searching for guards. Jack Murray of Bleacher Report states that the Houston Rockets, Los Angeles Lakers, and Milwaukee Bucks are potential landing spots for the 30-year-old guard.

      “Houston could use a veteran like Smart, as it improved to 41-41 and nearly reached the play-in tournament. Smart could join a core centered around Jabari Smith Jr, Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks and Fred VanVleet and could make a difference in helping the Rockets take another step. Additionally, he could reunite with former Celtics coach Ime Udoka, who Smart advanced to the 2021-22 NBA Finals with.

      “The Lakers are looking to take a step forward in the West as well after going 47-35 and losing in the first round of the playoffs to the Denver Nuggets. As J.J. Redick approaches his first coaching gig, giving him a noted veteran like Smart could be a huge asset.

      “The Milwaukee Bucks traded Jrue Holiday for Damian Lillard last offseason, and Holiday would end up replacing Smart in Boston. A logical play could be acquiring Smart to add to the championship core and hopefully advancing past the first round for the first time since 2021-22,” Murray wrote.

      Trade Smart? Which team offers the best package?
      Any deal for Smart would need to absolutely floor the Grizzlies so it’s unlikely there is a team that would want him that badly. Jake Fischer of Yahoo Sports reported last week that Memphis isn’t looking to trade their star acquisition from a year ago.

    • Marcus Smart is a career 32.3% shooter from 3, (31.3% last season)…at $20 million for next season, add that to Vanderbilts $12 million, and that would be $32 million for players that can’t shoot in current NBA style of play.

    • Spent some time in Memphis about a month ago…interesting town and their fan base is impressive. Talked with alotta folks cuz I had on a Laker hat most of the time lol. For 1 thing, they friggin LOVE Ja Morant as if they actually gave birth to that dude. The other thing is they believe they can go deep if healthy…they definitely wanna run it back with Marcus Smart. I don’t think we can offer enough to move change anyone’s mind.

      • I have a nephew that lives in Memphis, heard in a safe part of town, I worry about him alot but I’ll let his father, my brother, make the visits…

    • May as well try and trade for Jokic or Luka. Maybe Tatum or Brown, so Boston can’t get any more rings.

      You gotta dream bigger, Tommy!

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    With JJ Redick hired, the NBA Draft now in the rearview and Dalton Knecht and Bronny James officially the newest members of the Lakers, the team enters what should be an eventual free-agency period with plenty of questions still lingering.

    There is no sugarcoating the fact that the Lakers need to improve their team this offseason. But before they do so, they must first address what is quickly becoming a bloated roster.

    As of this article, Los Angeles already has 12 guaranteed contracts on their books after drafting their two new rookies and after D’Angelo Russell and Jaxson Hayes exercised their player options Friday night. On the surface, this does not present an inherent issue. However, that number can climb even further if Cam Reddish and LeBron James also decide to return.

    In the scenario where all four remain Lakers — which is trending that way — the Lakers may find themselves heading into free agency with 14 roster spots already filled. As a reminder, under the new collective bargaining agreement, the maximum number of players a team can carry is 15 with an additional three two-way roster spots available.

    If working off this same exercise, the team must also consider how this impacts their ability to retain their free agents this summer, including Max Christie, Taurean Prince, and Spencer Dinwiddie.

    While it is probably safe to assume not all three would return, the Lakers certainly would hopefully want to hold onto Christie for the foreseeable future. And although Prince had his detractors, he was a serviceable rotation piece who has already expressed a desire to remain a Laker and could look even better in a streamlined role within Redick’s spaced-out offense.

    This is all housekeeping that must occur before even considering external signings, which, as laid out here, could prove extremely difficult.

    Another issue for the Lakers beyond lacking roster space is the sheer number of players they carry who are either too young to contribute next season or are unreliable. Between their new rookies and the likes of Jalen Hood-Schifino and Maxwell Lewis, that’s four players who likely should not be counted on for big minutes. Once you add a combination of Christian Wood, Reddish and Hayes to the equation, that’s nearly half of the depth chart with legitimate question marks.

    Because of their overstuffed and flawed roster, one can expect the Lakers to make a consolidation trade — if not several — in the upcoming days. Fortunately, the team still has the resources to do so.

    Even after drafting James on Thursday, the Lakers possess five 2nd-rounders they can utilize to improve the roster and/or free up space. And given their current predicament, they should.

    Whether it’s a 2-for-1 deal or simply incentivizing another front office to take on an unwanted contract, the team must first handle the logistics of their roster before they can improve it.

    Throughout this process, the Lakers must also be mindful of their financial standing under the aforementioned new CBA. They will assuringly operate as an over-the-cap team that exceeds the first apron this summer. Still, they should attempt to steer far clear from entering the dangerous second apron (projected at $189.5 million). For context, they will sit roughly around $183 million if the scenario written about in this article transpires.

    With only hours before the Lakers have more clarity on their roster outlook and free agency gets underway, they still need to handle plenty of in-house business. As much as fans want to see them be active in bolstering the team, important steps first need to be taken.

    Lakers have a serious roster crunch issue

    With JJ Redick hired, the NBA Draft now in the rearview and Dalton Knecht and Bronny James officially the newest members of the Lakers, the team enters what should be an eventual free-agency period with plenty of questions still lingering.

    There is no sugarcoating the fact that the Lakers need to improve their team this offseason. But before they do so, they must first address what is quickly becoming a bloated roster.

    As of this article, Los Angeles already has 12 guaranteed contracts on their books after drafting their two new rookies and after D’Angelo Russell and Jaxson Hayes exercised their player options Friday night. On the surface, this does not present an inherent issue. However, that number can climb even further if Cam Reddish and LeBron James also decide to return.

    In the scenario where all four remain Lakers — which is trending that way — the Lakers may find themselves heading into free agency with 14 roster spots already filled. As a reminder, under the new collective bargaining agreement, the maximum number of players a team can carry is 15 with an additional three two-way roster spots available.

    If working off this same exercise, the team must also consider how this impacts their ability to retain their free agents this summer, including Max Christie, Taurean Prince, and Spencer Dinwiddie.

    While it is probably safe to assume not all three would return, the Lakers certainly would hopefully want to hold onto Christie for the foreseeable future. And although Prince had his detractors, he was a serviceable rotation piece who has already expressed a desire to remain a Laker and could look even better in a streamlined role within Redick’s spaced-out offense.

    This is all housekeeping that must occur before even considering external signings, which, as laid out here, could prove extremely difficult.

    Another issue for the Lakers beyond lacking roster space is the sheer number of players they carry who are either too young to contribute next season or are unreliable. Between their new rookies and the likes of Jalen Hood-Schifino and Maxwell Lewis, that’s four players who likely should not be counted on for big minutes. Once you add a combination of Christian Wood, Reddish and Hayes to the equation, that’s nearly half of the depth chart with legitimate question marks.

    Because of their overstuffed and flawed roster, one can expect the Lakers to make a consolidation trade — if not several — in the upcoming days. Fortunately, the team still has the resources to do so.

    Even after drafting James on Thursday, the Lakers possess five 2nd-rounders they can utilize to improve the roster and/or free up space. And given their current predicament, they should.

    Whether it’s a 2-for-1 deal or simply incentivizing another front office to take on an unwanted contract, the team must first handle the logistics of their roster before they can improve it.

    Throughout this process, the Lakers must also be mindful of their financial standing under the aforementioned new CBA. They will assuringly operate as an over-the-cap team that exceeds the first apron this summer. Still, they should attempt to steer far clear from entering the dangerous second apron (projected at $189.5 million). For context, they will sit roughly around $183 million if the scenario written about in this article transpires.

    With only hours before the Lakers have more clarity on their roster outlook and free agency gets underway, they still need to handle plenty of in-house business. As much as fans want to see them be active in bolstering the team, important steps first need to be taken.

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    • Lakers need a couple of consolidation trades. They need net net to trade 5 one-way players for 2 two-way upgrades. That opens up roster spots for our own (Prince, Dinwiddie) and other teams’ free agents

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    Here is Lakers’ current 15-man roster:

    PG: Russell, Vincent, Hood-Schifino
    SG: Reaves, Knecht, James Jr, Reddish
    SF: James Sr, Christie, Lewis
    PF: Hachimura, Vanderbilt
    CE: Davis, Hayes, Wood

    Cam Reddish has opted into his player option

    Here is Lakers’ current 15-man roster:

    PG: Russell, Vincent, Hood-Schifino
    SG: Reaves, Knecht, James Jr, Reddish
    SF: James Sr, Christie, Lewis
    PF: Hachimura, Vanderbilt
    CE: Davis, Hayes, Wood

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    1. Jonas Valanciunas
    2. DeMar DeRozan
    3. Klay Thompson
    4. De’Anthony Melton
    5. Gary Harris
    6. Caleb Martin

    Trades

    The new CBA tweaked the rules regarding the mid-level exception slightly. In the past, it could only be used to sign free agents. Now, however, it can be used to absorb salaries in trades. It cannot be aggregated, so it’s not as though the Lakers could combine it with another salary to get an expensive player, but they can use it to bring in a player making anything up to that projected $12.859 million figure. Many of these players would require the Lakers to send draft picks back, but here is a list of players below that salary line who would make sense for them:

    Wendell Carter Jr.
    Robert Williams III
    Larry Nance Jr.
    Gary Payton II
    Walker Kessler

    10 possible MLE targets for Lakers if LeBron takes less

    1. Jonas Valanciunas
    2. DeMar DeRozan
    3. Klay Thompson
    4. De’Anthony Melton
    5. Gary Harris
    6. Caleb Martin

    Trades

    The new CBA tweaked the rules regarding the mid-level exception slightly. In the past, it could only be used to sign free agents. Now, however, it can be used to absorb salaries in trades. It cannot be aggregated, so it’s not as though the Lakers could combine it with another salary to get an expensive player, but they can use it to bring in a player making anything up to that projected $12.859 million figure. Many of these players would require the Lakers to send draft picks back, but here is a list of players below that salary line who would make sense for them:

    Wendell Carter Jr.
    Robert Williams III
    Larry Nance Jr.
    Gary Payton II
    Walker Kessler

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    • It will be interesting to see if LeBron is willing to take as much as $16M per year less than max so Lakers can add a player via the NT MLE. It would be a first but could give the Lakers another key rotation player.

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    • Not a star, nor a stretch anything. Do better Tom.

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