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LakerTom wrote a new post
One of the most tantalizing possibilities from signing Andre Drummond as the Lakers’ starting center is the possibility he might enable Anthony Davis to completely avoid playing the five for the rest of the season and playoffs.
We already know Davis prefers to play the four and the Lakers want to accommodate him to limit the physicality and banging of having him play the five, especially considering his longtime history of being injury prone. Last year, AD played more than 25% of his minutes at center in the regular season and more than 60% during the playoffs. This year that percentage has plummeted to less than 10% of his minutes during this regular season.
So it’s not a stretch to assume one of the Lakers’ motivations last offseason was to replace JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard with centers who could play more minutes to reduce the time Anthony Davis would play at center. While Gasol and Harrell were able to play enough minutes to allow Davis to stay at power forward, they were unable to provide the rim protection that had been an integral component of last year’s regular season defense.
Fortunately, the Lakers were able to sign Andre Drummond from the buyout market, giving them a proven 27-year old center who averaged 17.5 points, 13.5 boards, 2.6 assists, 1.6 steals, and 1.2 blocks in 28.9 minutes per game. The Lakers hope they struck gold with Drummond and found not only a shot blocker to solve their rim protection woes but also a mobile and nimble big who could stay on the floor when they turn up the defensive pressure.
Drummond being able to successfully function in the aggressive trapping, doubling, and rotating team defense the Lakers unleashed in last year’s playoffs to win the championship is not as crazy and farfetched as it seems. Andre has incredibly quick feet and hands for a 6′ 10,” 280 lbs player and leads all centers with 1.6 steals to go along with his 1.2 blocks per game. And that was while not focusing on defense while playing on losing teams.
Motivated and committed to playing elite level defense, Andre Drummond potentially has the physical talents to not only be the Lakers’ starting center but also to play the five in what used to be their ‘small ball’ closing defense. The possibility Andre could learn to play the five so Anthony could play the four when the Lakers deploy their lethal switching and rotating defense is intoxicating and could be the key to the team repeating as champions.
Replacing Markieff Morris with Andre Drummond could make the Lakers ‘Death Lineup’ defense even more lethal. A front court with three long bigs like James, Davis, and Drummond could be intimidating and dominating. Their length alone could put a virtual lid on the basket and narrow the passing lanes from freeways to sidewalks while their mobility and quickness could suffocate opposing teams with a trio of pterodactyls chasing the ball.
Andre Drummond playing full-time at the five and allowing Anthony Davis to play most of the game at the four opens up important minutes at the five for forgotten man Montrezl Harrell, who now becomes the backup center. Harrell getting 20 minutes per game off the bench to do his thing is one of the big advantages of Drummond saving Davis from playing the five. It could even free minutes for Gasol to play the five against certain matchups.
While the Lakers won’t be able to re-sign him, Drummond could provide a template for the Lakers to follow this summer and trade for a modern center like Myles Turner so Anthony Davis could avoid playing the five.
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Feels to me like the games w/o AD and James are going to be tune up games for Dre. When they both get back his role will change drastically. Right now he’s a top option and you can imagine the team looking to make him comfy by force-feeding him. So these games are the outlier and not very reflective of how the team will function going forward.
When Davis and James come back Dre will drop to the 3rd or even 4th option in the starting five. That’s a mighty big adjustment for a guy who is used to be one of the top players on a team. It’s going to be interesting to see how he fares in the first high pressure situation. I am fairly certain that this is going to be the best, most-talented team Dre has ever played for.
Some guys shine even brighter under the bright lights and some wilt. I think one of the biggest reasons we’re not waiving Gasol is insurance. Gasol has been on teams that have gone all the way. Dre and Harrell haven’t gone that far, yet. Going to be an interesting end to the season.
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Yeah, we’re definitely going to see different versions of AD2. We’re going to need him to score until AD returns. Then he’ll have to learn how to play with Anthony. Finally, once Bron returns, he’l have to learn how to fit with two superstars. Big challenges for Dre and the coaching staff. How well they do could determine if the Lakers can repeat. As for Marc, I think he’s going to be a break glass option. If all goes as expected, he’ll get a lot of DNP CD.
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Excellent write up Tom. I’m excited to see Drum tonight also. One thing you mentioned that Lakers fan might be surprised to see is his quick hands. He’s good at suprising guards by poking the ball away in P/R plays on the perimeter. He’s also decent at putting the ball on the deck and attacking from the midpost. Unfortunately he’s not as adept at finishing once he gets to the rim as one would expect. Straight post up are not his strength either. But we will get a lot of easy baskets on putbacks…which is something we haven’t seen much of this year. Color me excited.
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Thanks, Lee. For those who don’t know, LRob lives in the Detroit area so has a lot experience watching Dre play for the Pistons. I’ve been reading a lot of analysts’ comments and watching a lot of film and what jumps out at me is a lot of skills that are Drummond’s strengths are great matchups for what the Lakers need and a lot of his weaknesses are in areas the Lakers don’t need from him That tells me if he focuses on doing what Frank and the coaching staff want from him once LeBron and AD are back, he could be a great fit and really help the Lakers.
For example, he’s a terrific rebounder at both ends. Lakers right now are 17th with 9.6 offensive rebounds, 6th with 35.6 defensive rebounds, and 9th with 45.2 total rebounds. Losing AD didn’t really change our rebounding numbers but since we lost LeBron, we’ve fallen to 27th with 7.4 offensive boards, 10th with 35.4 defensive boards, and 20th with 42.8 total boards. Let’s see how Dre affects those numbers tonight.
We rank 14th with 7.5 steals per game and 4th with 5.6 blocks per game for the season. Last 5 games w/o LBJ, we’ve jumped to 3rd with 9.6 steals but dropped to 30th with just 2.8 blocks per game Again, let’s see what Dre can do to help those numbers.
Finally, I want to see how he plays when trap, hedge, double, and rotate on defense or switch. That’s where I’m hoping his quick feet and hands can give some promise of how he’ll fit defensively with LeBron and AD. Going to be exciting. Love to see him have a double 20 game like you predicted. Be great to see you tonight if you can stay up.
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You’re welcome LT. Yep I have split Piston season tickets for the last 3 seasons pre-pandemic so I saw Drummond a lot in person. It’ll be interesting to see what can of damage he can do on offense when he’s not the focal of defenses…and on defense when he’s playing with teammates committed to D in a strong system.
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LakerTom wrote a new post
Lakers coach Frank Vogel and his staff have a major challenge to figure out how to still take advantage of Montrezl Harrell since the signing of Andre Drummond is going to create a big minutes crunch at the center position.
Since the start of the second half of the season, the Lakers have discovered how to unleash Montrezl Harrell to be the major offensive force he was last year as 6MOY by featuring him in pick-and-rolls to let him attack the rim. The result has been Trezz averaging 20.2 points and 6.8 boards in 29.9 minutes in the 10 games since the All-Star break versus 13.8 points and 6.4 boards in 24.1 minutes per game for the 37 games before the break.
Trezz is a powerful offensive weapon off the bench that Frank Vogel and the Lakers’ coaching staff needs to find a way to still take advantage now that they’ve signed Andre Drummond to replace Marc Gasol as starting center. The challenge is how to get Harrell the minutes off the bench to continue to impact the game the way he has when minutes at the center position are going to suddenly become scarce down the stretch and in the playoffs.
With Davis a few weeks from returning and Drummond still needing time to get back into shape after not playing for six weeks. the minutes crunch won’t rear its ugly head right away but it’s going to be a problem in the playoffs. Harrell is averaging 25.3 minutes per game, Gasol 19.8 minutes per game, and Drummond 28.9 minutes. Add Anthony Davis, who averaged 22.6 minutes at center in last year’s playoffs, and the total is 96.6 minutes.
For the record, that is actually more than double the 48 minutes is an NBA game, which means the Lakers’ coaching staff could face a monumental game of musical chairs at the center position once they get to the playoffs. Complicating the probable serious number crunch further is Frank Vogel declaring “he wants to be able to play Marc Gasol, Montrezl Harrell and Andre Drummond when the Lakers get to the postseason for flexibility.”
You have to love Vogel spreading the love and keeping all of his centers engaged but there’s going to be a major scarcity of minutes in the playoffs for every Lakers centers not named Andre Drummond and Anthony Davis. While it’s nice to have Gasol’s 3-point shooting and passing and Harrell’s energy and low post scoring in your back pocket, both are players who can only play one position and are simply bad fits alongside Drummond.
All of this assumes Andre Drummond will not only be the Lakers’ starting center in the playoffs but will also play big minutes. Whether that happens will obviously depend on how well he performs during the regular season. Should Andre follow the example set by Dwight and focus on being the player the Lakers need on defense and not the player he wants to be on offense, then he’ll earn a starting role and major minutes in the playoffs.
While Drummond will start, he’ll probably be limited to around 20 minutes per game due to his poor free throw shooting and the Lakers’ preference for Anthony Davis at the five and Markieff Morris at the four to close games. Assuming Marc Gasol is the odd man out, that leaves Drummond with 20 to 22 minutes of potential playing time at center with a good percentage of that time with Anthony Davis at the four covering his back defensively.
That would give the Lakers a breakdown in the playoffs of 20 to 22 minutes per game each for Drummond and Harrell at center and 4 to 8 minutes per game for Davis at center, which should help AD avoid low post physicality. That could be an excellent basic template for allocating center minutes in the playoffs with the actual playing time varying as needed for matchups when teams opt to go small or the Lakers need to ramp up their defense.
Montrezl Harrell has become too good a weapon off the bench for the Lakers not to prioritize figuring out how to still optimize him even if it means Andre Drummond and Anthony Davis playing fewer minutes as the five.
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It’s going to be interesting to see how Dre fits with the Lakers. There;s potential for his fit and impact to be transformational as well as overrated. Will depend on both Frank and the coaches ability to use him correctly and his willingness to assume a role for the good of the team rather than what he wants to do. Hopefully, they can get those two things in sync and he and the Lakers will both be big winners. Adding a championship run and ring is the best thing he could do to his resume and brand. Hope he realizes that and can focus do what we need him to do.
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LakerTom wrote a new post
There’ve been great conversations in the media and blogs whether Andre should change his game to match the Lakers’ needs or whether the Lakers should take advantage of his unique strengths and adjust their approach?
Now that Andre has reached agreement to join the Los Angeles Lakers, it’s going to be fascinating to find out exactly what his role on the team will be and how much the Lakers’ strategy on offense and defense will change. Drummond brings skills the Lakers need to repeat as champs, including elite rebounding, low post scoring, physical size, and solid rim protection. But integrating him into a championship team is not a simple slam dunk.
Drummond is looking at the starting center position on the Lakers as the perfect team and situation to best showcase his talents to convince a team to offer him a max contract as an unrestricted free agent next summer. Ideally, he wants to start and close games, play big minutes, and be featured on offense. Money and even the lure of a championship are not paramount. Drummond is primarily focused on helping his career, brand, and future.
The Lakers, of course, know all of this but they also needed to sell Andre that joining the Lakers would give him the ideal stage and best opportunity to show the world what he can accomplish playing on a championship team. The Lakers goal is a championship with everybody pulling in the same direction. That means Andre and the Lakers had to reach an important meeting of the minds to balance the needs of the player and team.
So let’s take a look at the role Drummond and the Lakers could have agreed upon and highlight the areas where the needs of the player and team could have conflicted and how those conflicts might have been resolved.
STARTING AND CLOSING
There’s no question Andre Drummond will be the Lakers’ starting center. The more important question is will he close games, especially once we get into the playoffs when the Lakers prefer to close with AD at the five?
While there will be matchups where LA may need Drummond and Davis on the floor together to close games, there’s no way the Lakers promised Andre that he would automatically be on the team’s closing lineup for every game. While Frank Vogel has usually stayed with a consistent starting lineup, he’s also always preferred to adjust who closes games for the Lakers, depending on the matchups and who’s been playing well. That’s not going to change.
While Andre is likely to be the starter most of the time, there may be games where teams go small and the Lakers decide to matchup. In the end, the Lakers and Andre have likely agreed coach Vogel would make those calls.
FEATURED ON OFFENSE
The Lakers are first and foremost LeBron James’ and Anthony Davis’ team and Andre Drummond signing with them is not going to change that. Andre will get his share of touches but he’ll still be the Lakers’ third option.
Whether the Lakers feature Andre Drummond on offense will be another decision that has to be matchup driven. The Lakers won’t have a problem dumping the ball inside to Andre if he has a clear cut matchup advantage. However, they’re not going to suddenly turn into a team whose top priority is to feed the ball into the post as if Andre Drummond was Shaquille O’Neal. Andre will get his opportunities but only within the flow of the game.
Drummond is smart enough to understand this is LeBron’s and AD’s team and knows that proving he can play winning basketball on a championship team will be worth more in free agency this summer than inflated stats.
MINUTES AND SHOTS
Andre Drummond will average around 32 minutes per game depending on matchups, which is in line with his recent and career numbers. But there will be sporadic games where he’ll play fewer minutes due to matchups.
As for shots, Drummond averaged a career high 15.2 shots per game for the Cavs this season. He’s not going to get that many shots with the Lakers, who will be looking for him to improve both his shot selection and efficiency. LeBron James averages 18.4 and Anthony Davis 16.7 shots per game for a total of 35.1 or about 40% of the team’s 86 shots per game. The only way Andre is going to get 15 shots per game is dominating the offensive glass.
Andre Drummond will be the Lakers third star when it comes to minutes, shots, and points scored but playing on the Lakers with LeBron should enable him to discover and showcase his best possible version as a player.
IMPACT ON ROSTER
Andre Drummond’s arrival will have major consequences for the Lakers’ current two centers, Marc Gasol and Montrezl Harrell. Gasol will probably find himself playing rarely and Harrell his minutes dramatically reduced.
Vogel faces a daunting challenge distributing center minutes. Harrell is averaging 25.3 and Gasol 19.8 minutes per game. Without AD, that leaves just 16 minutes for the other centers if Andre plays 32 minutes per game. Until AD returns, Harrell should get most of the remaining minutes while Gasol sits. The big crunch will come when AD returns. Vogel may have to get creative to find minutes for Harrell with Davis to avoid losing his impact.
Once we’re in the playoffs and the Lakers go small and need Anthony Davis to play more minutes at the five defensively, Drummond and Harrell could both see their minutes and roles diminish significantly the deeper LA goes.
There’s no question signing Andre Drummond was a big and necessary move by the Lakers. They desperately needed more size and athleticism at the five than either Gasol or Harrell could provide to repeat as champions.
The big challenge now that Drummond is aboard is still finding a way to take advantage of Trezz’s great energy and scoring at the rim. Unfortunately, Drummond and Harrell together just doesn’t work in the modern NBA. Further complicating the situation, the Lakers may need Davis play the five in the playoffs even more this year than last year as neither Drummond or Harrell are great fits for the team’s championship defensive schemes.
The Lakers were fortunate to sign Andre Drummond and hopefully he and the team have agreed upon a role that will bring another championship but Frank Vogel and the coaches will have to figure out how to make it work.
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While the circumstances are completely different, I think Lakers fans can look at how the team integrated Dwight Howard as an example of how the team is going work Andre Drummond into their rotations and schemes.
There’s no question in my mind that the Lakers discussed in great detail how they planned to use Drummond and what his role would be as a Laker. He and they both know he is a rental so I think besides selling Andre on joining the Lakers, Rob and his team wanted to make sure both sides were on the same page.
The Lakers aren’t looking to Drummond to be a low post scoring threat ala Shaquille O’Neal. For one thing, Andre is not really an efficient scorer in the low post. He’s going to get some great passes from LeBron but he’s also going to have to get the ball himself off the offensive glass if he wants to average 15 shots per game like he did in Cleveland.
What the Lakers want from Dre is dominant rebounding at both ends of the court, efficient scoring and crashing the glass on offense, and physical size and rim protection on defense. Anything else they get like a little playmaking is just gravy. His model as far as team chemistry goes is to emulate the great job JaVale and Dwight did in the bubble last season.
The key is Andre accepting that he is the third option on this Lakers team and focussing on doing what the team needs him to do rather on playing the same game he’s played his entire career. That means focusing on defense and understanding his limited role on offense. That’s the difference playing on a championship rather than lottery team.
If Andre can do that, he can help the Lakers win the championship and showcase the best possible version of himself as an elite center, resurrect his career at 27, and get the new max contract he believes he deserves. I’ll be rooting for him to do that.
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LAKERS DEPTH CHART – 14 PLAYERS:
PG – SCHRODER, Horton-Tucker
SG – CALDWELL-POPE, Caruso, Matthews
SF – JAMES. Kuzma, McKinnie
PF – DAVIS, Morris, Dudley
CE – DRUMMOND, Harrell, Gasol-
Pretty sure Dudley is done for the year. Rivers just came free, and some other buyout guys should probably be brought on to replace guys like McKinnie/Cacok who really aren’t ready at this level. Since the Drummond signing was always in the bag and the “visits” were more to lessen any tampering allegations, can he suit up tonight?
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I suspect they won’t cut these guys because they don’t have any minutes for anybody but a wing defender and don’t want to hurt the team chemistry. Might change but I would bet on Otto Porter, Jr. as the last addition.
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We shouldn’t need him tonight but it would be great to have him next Wed for the Bucks and the rest of the schedule until AD and LeBron get back.
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Here’s the real wild card with respect to Drummond. How will finally playing for a winning team change his motivation and play? After years of playing for nothing but stats in Detroit and then Cleveland, how will Dre do under the bright lights of LA?
It’s a shame Andre won’t get to start his rental stint with the Lakers playing alongside LeBron James. I worry a little about him getting too many touches with our team so offensively challenged without LeBron and AD. Andre’s Achilles heel is poor shot selection and low percentage finishing on offense. The last thing the Lakers need is for him to get used to too many touches and then struggling to adjust to less opportunity once LeBron and AD return. This is where all the smart discussion about his role might get undermined. I don’t want to see us dropping the ball to Dre in the low post and standing around while he goes 1-on-1.
Defensively, I’m encouraged by his league best 1.6 steals per game for centers than his 1.2 blocks per game. The word is he is pretty quick for a 6′ 10″ 280 lbs player but has not always been motivated to play defense. Hopefully, he’ll quickly understand that won’t fly on the Lakers. It will be interesting to see if he can fit on a trapping, doubling, switching style of defense the Lakers want to play. That will go a long way towards determining what his role will be come the playoffs.
At any rate, landing Drummond was probably an essential move to stay in competition for the championship this year. I do believe there’s a chance he could turn out to be the difference maker but it will depend on whether he can learn to be a Laker, which is a lot different than being a Piston or Cavalier. In the end, it will up to Andre to play the right way.
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So…cool, exciting I suppose. Certainly not my first choice in terms of our needs but the best choice talent/health-wise. Not gonna lie, as soon as Mitchell Robinson went down in NYC I was fairly confident Drummond would head to the Big Apple. Perfect for Thibbs system, would start alongside Randle et al, going to be fans there quicker than here, they can afford him next season and we cannot. Or at least he’ll be bummed if he’s a Laker next season if money is his goal.
I see him as a 3rd option at best and more likely the 4th. Schroder is also looking for a big post-season deal. He’s going to play as he has and frankly that’s in the best interests of the team. Another reason I thought the fit on the Knicks was better. With an healthy Laker roster he’ll get some points off LBJ,as the team does, and clean the offensive glass. That’s it. We didn’t create post touches for Gasol or really ask him to anything but function from the top of the key down. I expect a similarly limited role for Drummond.
While AD is out I can even envision a world where Dre starts at the 4 next to Gasol. The biggest fear in Laker Land is that Davis won’t play to potential or, worse, not at all. Drummond is as good of an insurance policy as anything else out there for that potentiality. It means that, once LeBron gets healthy, he and Frank will have a bevvy of options at the 4 and 5. Between Gasol, Drummond, Harrell and Morris the Lakers have a lot of looks should AD continue to experience issues staying on the court.
Lastly, it’s not like the Lakers have been burning it up from three. Having a rebounder like Dre never hurts a team. Ever. Even if all he does is patrol the paint and corral rebounds it’ll help. So welcome to the team Mr. Drummond and go Lakers!
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The key for the Lakers may be to figure out how to keep Trezz going once Drummond is here. That probably means Marc gets DNPs and Trezz plays a lot of minutes with AD. Going to be tough to keep him playing at his best though/
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I can’t say how excited I am right now for us landing Drummond, a historically great rebounder who can also get you buckets on any given night. And not only that, he is also in his prime at age 27. The same age as AD.
Championship teams need rebounders. Remember Dennis Rodman? How he fits into the team’s style of play will be figured out. We landed a good center without having to trade anyone. That, to me, was all I was looking forward to. Great job by Rob Pelinka.
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LakerTom wrote a new post
Yes, it’s a long shot but there’s something insanely karmic and stealthily savvy about the Lakers bringing back two former players who were both awarded championship rings by the team despite missing the playoffs.
The Lakers reportedly were interested in signing Boogie a few weeks ago but wanted to wait to see if Andre Drummond were bought out. While the Lakers are now the favorites to land Drummond, it’s still not a slam dunk. There are also serious questions whether Andre would be a good fit for the Lakers, especially in the playoffs when Anthony Davis will have to play a major share of the minutes at center if LA hopes to repeat as champions.
But aside from the karma of DeMarcus and Avery getting an opportunity to earn the championship rings they were awarded, there are three compelling reasons why they could be the best out-of-the-box options for the Lakers.
1. TEAM CHEMISTRY
Let’s be honest. One of the reasons the Lakers won the NBA championship last year was their strong team chemistry and involving key players in trade deadline discussions could have undermined and damaged that chemistry.
There’s also no question that DeMarcus Cousins and Avery Bradley were valued members of the Lakers’ championship team who would be eagerly and fully welcomed back and help repair any damage that had been done. Contrast that with the potential problems of bringing in an outsider like Andre Drummond or say Lou Williams, who don’t have the history and relationships that Boogie and Bradley have and might cause friction.
While Cousins and Bradley could be invaluable contributors to the Lakers repeating as champs, they would not likely start or dramatically change the team’s rotations but they would clearly strengthen the Lakers’ chemistry.
2. FLOOR SPACING
The proven formula for winning with LeBron has always been to surround him with high percentage, high volume 3-point shooting. Right now, the Lakers rank 25th in 3-point attempts and 22nd in 3-point percentage.
The default strategy to slow down LeBron is for defenders to sag off his teammates and clog the paint to prevent him from attacking the rim. The Lakers need willing shooters who can take and make more 3-point shots. Cousins and Bradley can do that. Drummond can’t. Boogie averaged 33.6% on 4.6 threes in 20.2 minutes while Bradley averaged 42.1% on 3.8 threes in 21.1 minutes. Drummond missed all 8 of the threes he took this year.
The offensive challenge the Lakers will face in this year’s playoffs is going to be winning or limiting the 3-point shooting differential. The Lakers need to take and make more threes than they’re doing now to repeat as champs.
3. OVERALL FIT
Once the Lakers get into the playoffs, Anthony Davis is going to play the five half the time like last year with Morris or Kuzma at the four against most opponents. Bradley can help those lineups. Cousins and Drummond can’t.
The issue then becomes what to do with the time when AD is not playing the five. What the Lakers don’t want to happen is the the team standing around force feeding the ball into the post for an inefficient Drummond to go 1-on-1. That time would be far better utilized by Boogie playing a stretch five and opening up lanes for LeBron and AD to attack the rim or by LeBron, Dennis, Avery, and THT running pick-and-rolls with Montrezl for layups and dunks.
The last thing the Lakers need right now is to add a player who needs the ball to showcase himself to earn a max contract this summer. The Lakers should focus on adding players who enhance the team and how we play.
The Lakers front office essentially gave this roster a vote of confidence with their decision to not make the trade for Lowry. They obviously believe the Lakers have the superstars and supporting cast to win the championship.
While we do need size and better rim protection, there’s a good argument that Cousins could be just as effective in that tole as Drummond and certainly a better fit offensively with his playmaking and shooting. There’s also the issue of expectation which could result in friction that could hurt the Lakers already stressed team chemistry. This may be the time for the Lakers to double down on tweaking rather than revamping how they play.
When you consider the importance of team chemistry, floor spacing, and overall fit, signing Cousins and Bradley and giving them the opportunity to earn another ring to go with the one we gave them last year makes sense. Cousins and Bradley would allow the Lakers to play the same style with AD at center that won the title last year and incorporate this season’s success with Gasol as a stretch five and Harrell as a pick-and-roll finisher.
While there’s something insanely karmic and stealthily savvy about the Lakers bringing back two players who were both awarded championship rings by the team despite missing the playoffs, here’s hoping it will happen.
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I spent a couple of hours thinking about Andre Drummond in preparation for writing an article about how he would fit on or work for the Lakers before coming to the inevitable conclusion that he wouldn’t be a good fit or work well. In fact, I’m actually worried that he could end up being a bust that damages team chemistry and focuses Vogel’s attention away from taking advantage of Gasol stretching defenses to open up lanes for LeBron and AD to attack the rim or from LeBron et al running pick-and-rolls to get dunks and layups for Trezz.
The problems start with the fact that our best lineups for the playoffs are going to be Anthony Davis at the five with Morris at the four, although I also think we should give Kuzma a chance to be the four too in certain matchups. That’s going to be the lineup that eats up 50% of the minutes and closes games against most opponents like it did last year. Whomever we bring in as a center is not going to change that, whether it’s Drummond or Cousins. AD is the shot blocker and rim protector that makes that scheme work. Drummond or Cousins would just be played off the floor defensively like McGee or Howard because they can’t switch and rotate and defend the perimeter. Oddly, I do think there will be situations where Trezz can function defensively in the AD small ball lineup. We’ve seen glimpse of that and he is mobile and athletic enough to pull it off.
That leaves the other half of the game where AD is not the center. I don’t want to see that half of the game turn into force feeding Drummond in the post, where he is an inefficient black hole, while everybody else stands around. Not when you have LeBron James and Anthony Davis on the team. Give me Boogie firing away from deep 5 times a game to stretch the defense or LeBron et al running pick-and-rolls to get Trezz going down hill for dunks and layups. Both of those are better offensive schemes for us than an inefficient back-to-the-basket low post scorer looking to rack up points to get a max contract from another team when he knows the Laker can’t give him that.
Bottom line, time for Boogie and Bradley to earn the ring we gave them for last year as well as another for this year. That’s what I’m hoping for. Of course, I expect the Lakers to sign Drummond and change how we play entirely, which only adds to my frustration over their doing nothing at the trade deadline.
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Well obviously anyone who’s not a “volume” 3 point chucker wouldn’t fit in your schemes. Clearly the best option is someone just taking a bunch of 3’s, regardless of percentage or efficiency. No doubt better options than a solid rim protector who’s a walking double-double regardless of any plays run for him. But hell, this is the Lakers, why not all 3?
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First, you can’t make them unless you take them and for the most part, you can’t stay on the floor in the NBA if you take a lot of threes but shoot a low percentage. Well, unless you’re Russell Westbrook. If you look at the top ten players in 3PA, you’ll not they all shoot above league average.
While I think a volume 3-point shooter is important, it’s partly that you can’t lose the 3-point war and win most games, it’s also about fitting with LeBron and AD. Having a center who’s willing and able to take and make a high volume of threes has always been part of how you win with LeBron James. Having everybody stand around while you pass the ball to Andre Drummond to score in the low post has not been part of the James winning strategy.
I do understand his rebounding and low post scoring can help but he’s also vulnerable to being played off the court just like JaVale and Dwight were last year. And he’s not the same level of rim protector they were.
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LakerTom wrote a new post
The Los Angeles Lakers appeared to have outlasted first the Philadelphia 76ers and then the Miami Heat to pull off a mega trade for Kyle Lowry and win today’s NBA Trade Deadline Sweepstakes only to sadly fold their cards.
In the end, the Lakers refused to include 20-year old Talen Horton-Tucker in their offer of Dennis Schroder and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope for Kyle Lowry and the Raptors’ Masai Ujuri called Rob Pelinka’s bluff and nixed the trade. The Raptors kept the 35-year old Lowry and the Lakers came up empty, even failing to make tweaks to what is a seriously flawed roster desperately in need of a playmaking guard, rim protecting center, and 3-point shooting.
As a longtime resident of THT Island, I’m glad Talen is still wearing purple and gold but also disappointed Rob did not pull the trigger on the trade for Kyle Lowry, whom I think could have made the Lakers dramatically better. But as I’ve said many times, I trust Rob Pelinka to make the right decisions for the Lakers and understand, as fans, we never have the benefit of the inside information, insights, or expertise of our front office professionals.
While I’m sure will learn more about what happened the next few days, here are my thoughts about the decision not to trade for Lowry and the questions it raises for the rest of the Lakers’ season and next summer:
The first question is why did the Lakers refuse to include 20-year old Talen Horton-Tucker in the trade since his contribution over the next two years was unlikely to be as great as that of a 35-year old All-Star like Kyle Lowry?
To start with, the Lakers may not have wanted to commit to giving Lowry the 2-year $50 million extension he wanted if traded. The reason they were willing to trade Schroder was the 4-year $100 million extension he wanted. Further, part of the reason they were willing to trade Caldwell-Pope was his 3-year $40 million extension. The Lakers clearly wanted to cut salary with Caruso and Horton-Tucker entering free agency and luxury taxes looming.
Then there’s the obvious reluctance to part with 20-year old Talen Horton-Tucker, whom the Lakers believe has legitimate star potential. Pelinka has done a great job balancing the demands to win now with the Lakers’ future. Horton-Tucker is a Klutch Sports client and a player the Lakers drafted on the specific recommendation of LeBron James. It’s entirely possible James and Davis were participants in a decision not to include THT in any trades.
In the end, the Lakers obviously felt confident that they could still win the championship with their current roster and a healthy LeBron James and Anthony Davis plus whomever they could sign from the buyout market.
The next question is what does not making a trade mean for the Lakers, both for the 2 to 3 weeks remaining before AD returns and the 3 to 5 weeks left before LeBron returns, as well as down the stretch and in the playoffs?
The good news is Marc Gasol will return for tonight’s game against the 76ers, although on a 15-minute limit. With Embiid still injured and trade deadline in the rear view mirror, the Lakers will need to be ready to play. The front office just made a huge bet on them to be able to do the job. Dennis Schroder, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, and Talen Horton-Tucker need to show everybody the confidence shown in them was not misplaced.
The Lakers are 5.5 point underdogs tonight. They have 28 games left in the regular season, probably 10 more games before Davis returns, another 10 more before James returns, and then a final 8 before the playoffs begin. They’re currently in 4th place in the West, just two losses ahead of the 6th place Trail Blazers. To finish in the top 6 in the West, the 28–16 Lakers will have to finish close to 42–30, which means finishing the season 14–14.
Assuming they sign Drummond and another rotation player in the buyout market and James and Davis return when expected, the Lakers should be able to play .500 ball the rest of the way and avoid the play-in tourney.
Assuming LeBron James and Anthony Davis are rested and healthy for the playoffs, the Lakers should have a good chance of repeating even though the competition will be much tougher this year than last year in the bubble.
The key could be how well Frank Vogel can integrate Andre Drummond into the Lakers’ offense and defense and whether they can sign a quality high volume 3-point shooter in the buyout market to increase their made threes. We saw promising signs from the Harrell, Kuzma, and Horton-Tucker bench before James went down with the injury and the Lakers are going to need that trio to grow and develop down the stretch and in the playoffs to repeat.
They’re also going to need Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Markieff Morris, and Anthony Davis to play like they did in last year’s playoffs to have any chance of winning four playoff series and repeating as NBA champions this year. Schroder and Horton-Tucker are going to have to replace the magic Playoff Rondo provided last season and Anthony Davis is going to have match the hot long range shooting and dominating defense he provided last year.
Rob Pelinka and the Lakers’ front office bet this team could still win the championship without making a major trade. I’m hoping they were right and I was wrong because that’s what today’s decision was really about.
Finally, the biggest worry may be how today’s decision not to make any trades will impact the Lakers this summer as they basically kicked the can on making critically needed improvement down the road until this offseason.
As a taxpayer, they will not be able to take advantage of the non-taxpayer MLE or BAE or sign-and-trades as there’s no way they can keep Caruso and Horton-Tucker in free agency if they become hard capped like this season. The built-in raises for James, Davis, and Caldwell-Pope, Kuzma’s extension kicking in, and re-signing Caruso and Horton-Tucker will push the Lakers into the luxury tax. Win or lose, trades will be the only way to improve.
The Lakers prospects next summer will depend heavily on whether or not they repeat as champions. If they did, the goal will be to threepeat and the bet on the current roster and maybe Talen Horton-Tucker paid off big. Unfortunately, if they lose, everybody will look back at the decision to not trade for Kyle Lowry, LeBron will be a year older, and the Lakers may face tough decision about how to get their championship mojo back.
Right now, the next big battle is to sign Andre Drummond and a second rotation player who is a volume 3-point shooter and plus defender to help the Lakers weather the storm and win games until LeBron and AD get back.
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Tonight’s game is going to be extremely important. This team has been given a huge vote of confidence by Rob Pelinka and the Lakers front office, coaching staff, and superstars LeBron James and Anthony Davis. Make no mistake, Rob did not make the decision not to include THT in the trade for Lowry in a vacuum. It was obviously a decision made in advance and with everybody’s support. Whether fair or not, the team better come out tonight and play their asses off and show the confidence was warranted. Otherwise, things could go sideways in a hurry.
As I said in the article, I thought not pulling the trigger was a big mistake that could cost this championship and the future of the franchise for the rest of LeBron James career. Show me how wrong I was, Lakers, because I’m worried we missed a golden opportunity. I especially need to see Dennis, Kenny, and Talen play the best games of their careers and the Lakers to win. Otherwise, I’m going to go to bed haunted that I may have seen the last Lakers championship of my long and happy life.
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Nah LT, “keep Hope Alive!” Who knows, perhaps Drummond joins. Also alot of really good Stars up for Free Agency after the season.
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Kyle would’ve been great. If Schroder isn’t retained ( likely outcome, who knows)…maybe free agency. There was no way Riles was giving up Tyler and no way Rob was giving away THT. It would’ve been a giveaway. Those tend to slow burn like ether. When you let a diamond in the rough fall through quicksand.
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Right now, I feel like taking every positive comment back that I made in the above article. The idea that we did not need any help via a trade is ridiculous. The fact that we didn’t make a single move is indefensible. Any front office that could not see this team is seriously flawed and changes needed to be made is incompetent.
The defense was horrible. I’m so tired of seeing Caruso play poorly, make bad passes, take bad shots, make dumb plays. 1 point, 3 turnovers, terrible defense. Team worst -10 along with Gasol, the only center who can’t score on a 6′ 7″ forward guarding him 2 feet from the basket. We refuse to trade THT, who showed tonight why he should have been traded. 1-6 from the field, more turnovers than points and assists. This is the guy we refused to trade. LMAO. Count me off of THT Island.
Schroder at least show some heart as well as Trezz. KCP and Kuzma were OK but inefficient. Morris is a shell of his last year version. Overall, 76ers are almost as flawed as the Lakers. Two G-League teams without their superstars. Lakers have about as much chance of going 14-14 in these last 28 games as we have of finding any real help in the buyout market. Competition all got better while Lakers talking themselves into a fantasy for which we’ll pay not only this year in the playoffs but also in a tough offseason.
Season’s over. Lakers suck!
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hi Tom..hope everything is good in your end..i would not declare the season over..we have been high with this roster before the season begun..yes others may not have fit well as we have anticipated but still, they are playing right now without 2 of the very best players in the nba..without their 2 leaders for sure we would expect the outcome of how these players will be playing..LBJ makes everyone better..there is a reason why rob did not make a single move..he might not want to salvage the future of the organization by giving away a potential gem..so i guess the important thing that should happen is to be patient and hope that the team wins winnable games..i also guess that any other team will crumble when their leader is not playing for a long period of time..so don”t lose hope..we can still win it all this year..the ball is round.
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Thanks, Havoc. Appreciate the concern. LOL. Like it or not, reasonable or unreasonable, my mental health often does fluctuate based on how and what the Lakers do. I do trust Rob but think he made a big mistake by not including THT and trading for Lowry or even making a deal for Oladipo or other options. Standing pat will be a big mistake imo. Hope I’m wrong and I’ll have no problem eating crow. Done a lot of that in my life. One of the costs of wearing your heart on your sleeve. Anyway, not going to stop rooting for the Lakers. Man, we need LeBron and AD back and healthy. Hope all is well with you and yours. The sun will hopefully break through for all of us, including the Lakers.
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I’m stoked to see Dre play tomorrow night. The Lakers are going to need him to score as well as defend if they’re going to beat the Bucks so the version we see of him will be DD 1.0.
Once AD returns, we’ll hopefully see Dre switch his focus more to defense and let AD be the first option on offense. That version will be DD 2.0.
The version I’m excited to see is DD 3.0, when Dre totally focuses on being the rim protector we need inside and being the nimble, mobile big with quick hands and feet that can play in our Death Lineup defense and allow AD to stay at his preferred power forward position. That’s the version that can take the Lakers championship defense to an entirely new level of excellence.
Of course, all this depends on Dre being willing to focus on defense for the team rather then offense for his next contract. I do think, however, that making that sacrifice and showing the best possible version of himself as an All-Pro center is going to pay off more than a bunch of hollow stats on a team that lost.
Exciting game coming up for the Lakers. Dre saying all the right things. Now he gets a chance to back up his words. Go, Lakers!