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In what could be the opportunity the Los Angeles Lakers have been hoping for, Myles Turner appears likely to play out the last year of his contract rather than sign an extension which should move the Pacers to trade him.
The Lakers have long had a strong interest in Myles Turner and news that he will not sign an extension to stay with the Indiana Pacers should immediately rekindle the team’s interest in the 26-year old stretch center. Turner is exactly the player the Lakers need so that new head coach Darvin Ham can replicate the four-out, one-in offense his prior team, the Bucks, utilized with superstars Giannis Antetokounmpo and Kris Middleton.
With Turner leaving, the odds Indiana decides to trade him to avoid losing him for nothing but the Lakers will need to be extremely aggressive if they hope to win any bidding war with the Hornets and teams coveting him. While it may not be enough, the Lakers should go all-in on a mega deal with the Pacers to trade Westbrook, Horton-Tucker, Nunn, and their 2027 and 2029 unprotected first round draft picks for Turner, Brogdon, and Hield.
While teams rarely remove protection from first round picks, this is one of those opportunities where the Lakers need to turn their 2027 and 2029 first round picks into something extremely special, valuable, and tradeable.
Why the Lakers Make the Trade?
The Lakers are facing a ticking clock as LeBron James’ and Anthony Davis’ championship window appears to be closing as James approaches 38-years old and Davis struggles to remain healthy and effective outside the bubble.
This trade is as perfect as a trade could be for the Lakers as it allows them to swap Russell Westbrook and filler for three legitimate starters with needed size, shooting, and defense to complement James and Davis. With Darvin Ham taking over as the head coach, the Lakers are expected to install the four-out, one-in offense used by his former team, the Milwaukee Bucks, to create spacing for Giannis Antetokounmpo and Kris Middleton.
The key to the Bucks four-out offense working is having a stretch five center like Brook Lopez to be one of the four players stationed beyond the 3-point line. Other than in the bubble, Anthony Davis is not a proven stretch five. With Davis injured much of last season, the Lakers found themselves being destroyed by huge negative differentials in rebounding and points in the paint due to lineups that were undersized at almost every single position.
The problem is the Lakers lose their positional size advantage when they play LeBron and AD at the four and five. They need a center like Turner to allow James and Davis to dominate smaller players at the three and four. Starting a lineup of 6′ 5″ Malcolm Brogdon, 6′ 4″ Buddy Hield, 6′ 9″ LeBron James, 6′ 10″ Anthony Davis, and 6′ 11″ Myles Turner would give the Lakers the positional size advantage at all five of the positions on the floor.
Removing protection from two first round picks five and seven years from now when LeBron will be gone and Anthony Davis nearing the end of his career is a huge gamble by the Lakers but their only chance to land Turner.
Why the Pacers Make the Trade?
The Pacers need to decide what they’re doing. Are they going to try to completely rebuild from scratch or try to rebuild around Tyrese Haliburton and Isaiah Jackson and remain a playoff team in the Eastern Conference?
With Turner declining to sign an extension, it seems certain the Pacers are going to be looking to trade Turner as well as Brogdon and Hield, who are already on Indiana’s trading block. Pacers will surely not be short of suitors. The Charlotte Hornets, Brooklyn Nets, and other NBA teams will have significant interest in Turner, who finished among the top two shot blockers in the entire league the past three years and is still only 26-years old.
With the Pacers undergoing a partial rebuild around Haliburton and Jackson, getting two unprotected Lakers first round picks could be attractive to an established and secure general manager like Kevin Pritchard. While the picks are five and seven years away, they’re unprotected for a team that could struggle badly once LeBron retires and Davis ages could make them extremely valuable and tradeable.
Indiana has long been the preferred trading partner for the Lakers, partly because of the players they have who are available in trade and partly because they are a franchise with a very stable front office situation. Unlike many genera managers, Pritchard will likely still be running the Indiana Pacers front office when the Lakers 2027 and 2029 first round picks will be used, although they will likely be traded multiple times.
Indiana not only gets two Lakers’ post LeBron unprotected first round picks that could be extremely valuable but also gets a future young star in Horton-Tucker and saves $65 million on Brogdon’s and Hield’s contracts.
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I’d love to see it happen but see better offers from other teams getting in the way. That’s even if the Pacers trade him this summer. Makes a lot more sense, on their end, if they wait until the deadline to see how a team with Tyresse and Myles works. They can move other layers to try and move up. If they do end up trading Turner for picks they’ll likely be for ones this season. You do make a good point about it being fairly likely that Pritchard is the GM a few years from now but it’s not really a weighty point. Pacers aren’t building a team for five years from now, they want to compete right now, next season. Does the Laker trade facilitate that? Not really. It’ll be harder for a team like Indy to get the most out of that much cap space, as well. There aren’t many team-changing free agents for the next couple of seasons and Indy being as it is ain’t a destination franchise will likely have to content itself on overpaying role players. What they want are draft picks now to continue to build a cost-controlled, competitive team and hope they strike lightning. Does that mean the Lakers have no shot? I suppose not, anything could happen, but I can think of 4 or 5 teams that can offer something better in terms of draft assets, a higher yield on a more compartmentalized version of the trade and all without having to eat Westbrook’s salary. I honestly think you have a better shot if you limit to Nunn and THT for Turner plus the picks. Now that is an overpay, but it could be worth it based on the problems Turner could solve if he can stay on the floor. Since he’ll be playing for his next deal he has a lot of motivation but he, like AD, has had a real hard time playing most of a season his whole career. All in all I see an easy coast team like NY or Charlotte winning out simply because they have players that fit just as well as THT or Nunn but with picks that come in sooner.
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The other factor that I think works in the Lakers favor for both pursuing Turner and Hartenstein and that’s the continued devaluation of centers by teams, which is aso causing there to be multiple big name centers out there but only a few teams looking to prioritize the center position.
Phoenix not willing to pay Ayton. Utah looking to trade Gobert. None of the teams in the Finals willing to pay big money to a center. While Turner is only making $18M now, he’s looking for a big raise and a bigger role offensively going forward.
How many teams are going to trade valuable chips for a player who will want a huge raise at a position that there seem to be a never ending supply of capable minimum salary centers. Then there’s the foot injury. Turner may be a long shot but it’s not like he’s a rare legit 3&D wing.
Ham wants a stretch five center and that’s not Anthony Davis. Myles Turner solves all three major needs: size, shooting, and defense.
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I wouldn’t mind the THT and Nunn and Pick for Myles either. In fact, there probably isn’t a trade with the Pacers that I couldn’t convince myself was good. That’s a team with a lot of very good but no great players, no superstars. Add LeBron and AD to the Pacers roster and they’re champs. Give the Lakers three of their top six players and we could be champs. One positive is they are looking hard at the draft which says they’re really rebuilding. That makes the Lakers offer more viable than if they wanted to win now.
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LakerTom wrote a new post
The Los Angeles Lakers may have struck surprise gold in hiring Milwaukee Bucks’ assistant coach Darvin Ham to be their next head coach, a move that’s received universal praise and raised expectations about his impact.
With a veteran team coming off a horribly disappointing season, most NBA pundits expected the Lakers to hire an experienced NBA head coach or to delay their search until one like Quin Snyder or Doc Rivers became available. The Lakers instead smartly opted to hire the candidate with the greatest charisma and upside despite never having been a head coach before and mainly spending his time as an assistant coach in player development.
There’s strong evidence that indicates that Darvin Ham is going to become a major part of the executive brain trust making decisions for the Lakers, which is great news for an organization that needs dynamic leadership. Ham has the kind of intelligence that gains immediate respect, the type of personality that builds trust and confidence, and the elite communication skills to inspire Lakers’ stakeholders at every level from player to owner.
Unlike their previous coaching search that ended up hiring Frank Vogel, the Lakers avoided the public gaffes that resulted in hiring their third choice as head coach and having their entire hiring process rudely second guessed. Darvin Ham will start his tenure as Lakers’ coach with a longer contract and more power, independence, and influence than previous coach Frank Vogel had even after winning the NBA championship in the bubble in 2020.
So let’s look at how Darvin Ham could dramatically change the direction the Lakers take, including the possibility of his coaching Westbrook, whether Anthony Davis will play center, and whom the Lakers pursue this summer.
How Will Darvin Ham Affect the Lakers Russell Westbrook Decision?
The latest rumor making the rounds is that Darvin Ham’s answer to the question of what he would do to make Russell Westbrook work with LeBron James and Anthony Davis won him the job as the Lakers next head coach.
The Lakers have supposedly told potential trade partners they’d rather bring Russell Westbrook back next season than give up a first round draft pick to trade him, though they’re willing to take back long-term contracts. This doesn’t mean the Lakers are suddenly going to hold onto those picks and eventually use them. It just means they would prefer to use those picks to acquire valuable young players rather than just to dump Westbrook.
While it’s not a slam dunk that the Lakers will be able to find a trade partner for Russell Westbrook without giving up a draft pick, there will probably be teams willing to take on Russ’ expiring contract to dump salary. Ultimately, the last thing the Lakers should want to do at this point is ask first year head coach Darvin Ham to deal with trying to rehabilitate Russell Westbrook while learning to be an NBA head coach for the very first time.
That’s why all of the talk about bringing back Russ is posturing. Considering the concerns about LeBron’s age and AD’s ability to stay healthy, next season could be the Lakers best opportunity this decade to win #18. Ironically, I would not be surprised to find out Darvin also advised the Lakers that keeping Westbrook would make it difficult to surround James and Davis with the kind of shooting and defense needed to be a champion.
While the Lakers continue to push the idea that they’re going to keep Russ, in the end there’s just no way they’re going to ask rookie head coach Darvin Ham to take on a no-win situation like making Russ work LeBron and AD.
How Will Darvin Ham Affect the Offense the Lakers Run Next Season?
What will the Lakers’ offense look like under new head coach Darvin Ham? Look for an heavy emphasis on spacing, ball movement, and five-out sets designed to create driving lanes for James and Davis to attack the basket.
Darvin Ham was hired by the Lakers in part because of his success with the Bucks in creating the great spacing that was essential to unleashing Giannis Antetokounmpo and helping Milwaukee win the 2021 NBA Championship. The challenges facing the Bucks and Lakers are similar. The Lakers hope Darvin can build an offense to unleash LeBron James and Anthony Davis in the same way the Bucks’ offense unleashed Giannis Antetokounmpo.
The big question facing Darvin is whether to start games playing small with AD at the five or have the Lakers acquire a dynamic young stretch center like Isaiah Hartenstein so they can pay five-out with two bigs like the Bucks. Expect Ham to want to start games with two bigs but close them with small-ball-on-steroid lineups with AD at the five. That’s the perfect formula for the regular season with both big and small options available for the playoffs.
Considering injury concerns for James and Davis and how the undersized Lakers struggled in the paint and on the boards last season, moving James and Davis down a position against smaller players should benefit them. Finally, the versatility to play two-bigs with a center like Isaiah Hartenstein plus James and Davis or small-ball-on-steroids with a lethal 3-point shooting wing like Jerami Grant plus James and Davis could be a difference maker.
Expect Ham, as the Lakers new head coach, to push the team to build a roster with championship versatility to play two bigs like the 2021 Bucks and small-ball-on-steroids with AD at the five like the 2020 Lakers.
How Will Darvin Ham Affect the Defense the Lakers Run Next Season?
What can the Lakers expect their defense to look like under Darvin Ham? While they may be done with Frank Vogel, they may not be done with the pick-and-roll drop coverage that was the heart of his defensive philosophy.
The Lakers under Darvin Ham will likely play pick-and-roll drop coverage on defense like the Bucks with Brook Lopez and Giannis Antetokounmpo and the Lakers during the regular season when they won the title in 2020. While drop coverage was a successful for the Bucks and the Lakers during the regular season, both teams ended up playing small-ball-on-steroids lineups in the playoffs to take advantage of Antetokounmpo and Davis.
Schematically, when the Lakers go two bigs, they’ll play pick-and-roll drop coverage. But when they go small with Davis at the five, they’d be better off switching everything and counting on their positional size and physicality. The versatility to eat up minutes playing pick-and-roll drop coverage with two bigs to start games but closing with a small-ball-on-steroids lineup playing switch everything could be the Lakers’ perfect defensive formula.
Building a roster that can play both big and small is challenging. Starting games with a center but closing them with a wing essentially requires the team to have six starters with the center and wing sharing the fifth slot. For Darvin Ham to be able to start games with two bigs, the Lakers will need to trade for or sign a dynamic young center like Isaiah Hartenstein. They will also need to trade or sign a legitimate defensive wing like Otto Porter, Jr.
Expect Darvin Ham to play a similar defensive style to that of Frank Vogel. The Lakers rely on two bigs lineups during the regular season and rely more on their small-ball-on-steroid lineups when they get into the playoffs.
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The more I think about the similar needs of the Bucks and the Lakers when it comes to providing spacing for superstars, the more I think the considering of two Bucks assistants and the hiring of Darvin Ham was a savvy move by the Lakers. Giannis could be the more difficult superstar to create space for than even LeBron and AD.
While the rosters are not the same, the needs of the Bucks and Lakers to create spacing for their superstars while still playing good defense are eerily similar. It’s going to be fun and fascinating seeing what our identity become under Darvin Ham and what he’s going to change from what they did in MIlwaukee. Love the hire though. As excited as I can remember about a Lakers head coaching hire.
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LakerTom wrote a new post
As a lifelong die-hard Lakers fan who lives in the Bay area and lost a son and two granddaughters to the Warriors as fans, I have serious concerns about what the Dubs resurgence means to the future of the purple and gold.
Forgive me but, if there is anybody more entitled than Los Angeles Lakers fans, it’s Golden State Warriors fans. Now favored to win their seventh title, the Warriors could end up participating in six of the last eight NBA Finals. With their three superstars finally healthy and Wiggins and Pool elevating their ceiling, the Lakers may be forced to go through another Golden State dynasty to get out of the West and win their 18th NBA championship.
Fear of a suddenly healthy and championship-focused Golden State Warriors team potentially blocking the way out of the West for the Lakers should lead to changes in the roster Pelinka builds around LeBron and AD. Ironically, not only do the Lakers now have to learn how to play like the Dubs but they also have to figure out what kind of players they need to surround LeBron and AD with to ultimately defeat the Warriors.
The Lakers are at a critical crossroads and the direction they chose to go this summer could determine whether they win another championship with LeBron and how they handle looming transition to post-LeBron era. What Rob Pelinka does this summer will have a impact on the success or failure of the franchise over the rest of this decade. He has an opportunity to solidify his job as GM if he can build a Lakers team to beat the Warriors.
If the Lakers want to build a team to beat the Warriors, they’ll need to (1) hire a head coach who plays modern basketball, (2) build a roster that can play big or small, and (3) find players who can shoot and defend.
1. Find a Head Coach Who Plays Modern Basketball
The Lakers move to hire Darvin Ham, who won a championship as a player with the Pistons in 2004 and as an assistant coach with Bucks in 2021 is a great first step in building a team that can play like and beat the Warriors.
During his four years as an assistant for Milwaukee, Darvin was part of a coaching staff that prioritized ball movement, spacing, and 3-point shooting on offense and pick-and-roll drop coverage and rim protection on defense. While Darvin will adjust his basketball philosophy to the roster Rob Pelinka gives him, it’s expected he will want to play an offense and defense similar to those favored by his mentor, Bucks’ coach Mike Budenholzer.
Hiring a coach from an team that plays new school five-out basketball on offense and old school rim protection anchored basketball on defense is an encouraging sign the Lakers plan to modernize how they play the game. Embracing constant ball and player movement and spacing on offense would be a great first step by the Lakers to play a style of offense similar to the Warriors instead of running isolation plays for their superstars.
I worry about Ham playing the same drop pick-and-roll coverage that Vogel favored when he had a shot blocking, rim protecting center and am interested to see the changes he will implement now that he’s the coach. Hoping he’ll be quicker to make adjustments than his mentor. Since Darvin is younger, I expect him to be more aggressive than Budenholzer was in making both roster and stylistic changes as the season progresses.
In Ham, the Lakers successfully nailed the first of the three goals they needed to achieve by finding a dynamic young head coach who believes in a modern style of basketball similar to that of the Golden State Warriors.
2. Build a Physical Roster That Can Play Big and Small
If the Lakers want to get past the Warriors in the West, they need be able beat the Warriors by playing big or paying small, which means they need both a young physical center to go big as well as a big 3&D wing to go small.
Being able to dominate Golden State when they play big or small is the key to beating the Warriors going forward. You’re not going to outshoot a team with Curry, Thompson, and Poole but you can beat them with bully ball. When they play big, the Lakers need to be able to offensively overpower the Warriors on the boards and in the paint. When they go small, they need to defensively dominate the Warriors with their small-ball-on-steroids lineups.
In other words, the Lakers need the versatility to play two bigs with a young physical center like Isaiah Hartenstein paired with Anthony Davis or small-ball-on-steroids with a wing like Otto Porter, Jr. paired with LeBron and AD. Dominating positional size and physicality is the ticket to beating the Warriors. You’re not going to outshoot them but you can out-physical them with size and power at every position, especially in the front court.
That means the Lakers need to find a young physical center like Hartenstein as well as a bigger 3&D wing like Porter if they’re going to build a roster of players who can take it to Golden State with greater size and physicality. Fortunately, both could be signed in free agency if the Lakers were to accept a hard cap. They could then pay Hartenstein up to $10.3 million per year for up to four years and Porter $4.1 million per year for up to four years.
Using their Mid-Level and Bi-Annual Exceptions to sign a center like Hartenstein and a wing like Porter would give the Los Angeles Lakers a significant positional size advantage over the Golden State Warriors.
3. Find Rotation Players Who Can Shoot and Defend
The biggest problem with the Lakers’ roster last season was there was no salary cap left to sign legitimate rotation players who could shoot and defend after trading for Russell Westbrook and his massive max contract.
That’s why one of the Lakers goals this offseason is to trade Westbrook and Horton-Tucker for two or three legitimate NBA rotation players who are better shooters and defenders than minimum salary players last season. While there’s no way a team is going to consistently outshoot the Warriors from three, there are major moves the Lakers can seek this offseason to build a roster that’s better equipped to defend and beat Golden State.
While it’s doubtful any team would be willing to trade for Russ the player, his $47 million expiring contract should be extremely appealing to multiple NBA teams looking to clean up cap sheets and dump long-term contracts. The top potential trade partner is the Indiana Pacers who are looking to dump point guard Malcolm Brogdon and shooting guard Buddy Hield, who would be outstanding fits as the Lakers new backcourt with LeBron and AD.
Malcolm Brogdon would be a huge upgrade over Westbrook in that he is an excellent playmaker who thrives both on and off the ball, shot 37.2% on 5.2 threes per game, and is an excellent point of attack defender with 6′ 5″ size. Buddy Hield was the player the Lakers were planning on trading for before they switched to Westbrook. He shot 36.2% on 8.5 threes per game last year but is a career 39.8% 3-point shooter who averages 7.6 threes per game.
Trading Westbrook and Horton-Tucker and their two first round draft picks for a volume 3-point shooting backcourt would be a critical step to building a roster that could beat the Golden State Warriors in the playoffs.
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LAKERS VS. WARRIORS!
I’m looking forward to next season. Lakers, Warriors, and Clippers should be top three teams in the West.
It’s already ripping through my family like Covid in a bar. Wife Teresa, Grandson Nick, and me against Son Kevin and Granddaughters Alexa and Mia.
Darvin Ham is step one to playing like but beating the Dubs.
Step two is getting a great center to go big and big wing to go small.
Can you say Hartenstein and Porter Jr.Step three is trading Russ for two quality rotation players.
Can you say Brogdon and Hield?
The bonus is what can we get for THT?
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Aloha Tom, I think you need to add the Grizzlies to your top contenders. Even with their inexperience they gave the Warriors all they could handle. And if Ja had not gotten hurt, they may not have gotten past them. They have a ton of cap space and can add a couple of seasoned vets to their young core, so watch out for them. In AD and LeBron the Lakers have the same ingredients that the Griz had that gave the Warriors fits. Size inside. I kind of expect the Warriors to address that in the off season. I still feel that our biggest priority is a big wing player. LeBron just can’t defend the 3 anymore.
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Thanks for reading and responding, Michael. I don’t disagree that we need a bigger 3&D wing to guard other team’s bigger wing scorer but I think getting a shot blocking rim protector who can allow AD to play forward rather than center during the regular season is just as important a priority. The Lakers have enough trading chips and free agent opportunities if hard capped to fill both positions as well as getting bigger and better backcourt duo.
I do agree the Grizzlies, Warriors, and Clippers will all be fearsome competitors to win the West next season and maybe the Mavs if they can add another star and keep Brunson. This season was actually the Lakers best chance to win #18 this decade. Next year will be our second best chance and harder than this year. Lakers going to need to hit home runs this summer to be in the race.
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Names you mentioned that I liked: Brodon, Hield, Hartestein, Olynyk, and Claxton.
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LakerTom wrote a new post
There’s a growing consensus among those who dislike or doubt the Los Angeles Lakers that there’s just no way they can fix their roster problems this summer to become a legitimate championship contender next season.
On the surface, that projection seems inevitable considering the Lakers only won 33 games this season and there was no interest at the trade deadline for Westbrook or Horton-Tucker, the team’s best trading chips as players. What‘s different now is the Lakers have two first round picks to sweeten trades and Westbrook’s bad contract has now become an appealing $47 million expiring contract for teams looking to dump bad contracts.
In addition to trading Westbrook and Horton-Tucker, the Lakers should also make a strategic decision to hard cap themselves next season, which would then require them to remain under a $155.7 million total salaries hard cap. The benefits of being hard capped include not paying major luxury taxes, getting the full $10.4 million MLE and $4.1 million BAE instead of the $6.3 million mini-MLE, and being able to receive free agents via sign-and-trades.
The Laker should be able to get at least three rotation players who earn between $15 and $20 million per year in return for trading Russell Westbrook, Talen Horton-Tucker, and the team’s two first round draft picks. Additionally, the Lakers should also be able to sign two or three legitimate rotation players using their $10.4 million MLE and $4.1 million BAE. These would all be major upgrades over last season’s minimum salary players.
The Lakers have a path to add five or six legitimate rotation players to complement LeBron James and Anthony Davis this summer. So let’s take a look at whom the Lakers might be targeting via both trade and free agency.
RUSSELL WESTBROOK TRADE
The Lakers’ top offseason priority is to trade Westbrook for two legitimate rotation players. Because they would have to take $50 to $100 million in bad contracts, the Lakers should not be willing to include picks to move Russ.
Whether it’s posturing or serious, the Lakers have been hinting they would keep Westbrook if they cannot find a trade for him rather than swapping him to Houston for Wall’s identical deal or waiving and stretching him. Because salaries have to match, the Lakers’ goal in trading Westbrook is to break his contract into two or three smaller contracts. Ideally, the Lakers would like to trade him for two players making around $20 million.
Here are four player trades with teams looking to create cap space by dumping players on long-term contracts for ones on expiring contracts. Rob Pelinka and the Lakers should be able to pull off one of these four trades.
1. Indiana Pacers Trade for Malcolm Brogdon and Buddy Hield
Malcolm Brogdon (3 years and $67.8M) and Buddy Hield (2 years and $42.2M) are probably the best package the Lakers could hope to get for Russell Westbrook’s $47 million expiring contract without a draft pick. Opportunities available to expand trade should include Myles Turner.
2. Charlotte Hornets Trade for Gordon Hayward and Kelly Oubre, Jr
Gordon Hayward (2 years and $60M) and Kelly Oubre, Jr. (1 year and $12.6M) are probably the second best package the Lakers could get back for Russell Westbrook without including a first round draft pick. Opportunities available to replace Oubre include Terry Rozier or P. J. Washington.
3. Houston Rockets Trade for Christian Wood, Eric Gordon, David Nwaba
Eric Gordon (2 years and $39.0M), Christian Wood (1 year and $14.3M), and Davis Nwaba (2 years and $10.0M) would be the third best package in return for Russell Westbrook’s $47 million expiring contract without a draft pick. Lakers are not interested in swapping Westbrook for John Wall.
4. New York Knicks Trade for Julius Randle and Evan Fournier
Julius Randle (4 years and $104.4M) and Evan Fournier (3 year and $54.0M) are probably the fourth best package the Lakers could get for Russell Westbrook and his expiring contract without a draft pick. Opportunities to expand trade should include Derrick Rose and Cam Reddish.
TALEN HORTON-TUCKER TRADE
Horton-Tucker is the other Lakers player besides Russell Westbrook whom the Lakers must trade this offseason. There is a good chance that THT might be included in an expanded version of the Russell Westbrook trade.
While he’s only 21-years old, Horton-Tucker possesses dominating physical measurements. He has a 7′ 1″ wingspan, Kawhi Leonard sized hands, and a powerful body that weighs more than any other shooting guard in the NBA. While THT is not a great fit on the Lakers and needs to be on a young team surrounded by shooters where he could grow and develop into an elite two-way shooting guard/small forward, he still possesses exceptional upside.
Here are four possible THT trades that target potential Lakers starters and include one or two Lakers’ first round draft picks. Pelinka and the Lakers should be able to pull off one of these four trades for key rotation player.
1. Detroit Pistons Trade for Jerami Grant
Trading THT, Nunn, Gabriel, and their 2027 and 2029 first round draft picks for an elite young 6′ 8″ 3&D wing Jerami Grant is probably the Lakers’ best available Horton-Tucker trade. Getting Grant would cost the Lakers two first round picks but fills what is thought to be their defensive weakness.
2. Indiana Pacers Trade for T.J. Warren
The Lakers would have to agree to be hardcapped at $155.7 million if they were to pull off a sign-and-trade for Indiana Pacers free agent T. J. Warren, who’s essentially been injured the past two years. Warren would be the Lakers second best return for a Talen Horton-Tucker trade this summer.
3. Brooklyn Nets Trade for Nic Claxton
As with T.J. Warren, a sign-and-trade for Nic Claxton would also require the Lakers to accept a $155.7 million hard cap for next season. Claxton is a defensive specialist who can protect the rim and defend the perimeter. His defense is good enough that small ball teams cannot play him off the court.
4. New York Knicks Trade for Cam Reddish
Cam Reddish would also be a great fit as the Lakers young bigger 3&D wing. THT and our 2027 first round pick should be enough to incentivize the Knicks to trade Reddish to the Lakers. New York didn’t really integrate Reddish into their rotations as he only played 14.4 mpg during the season.
MID LEVEL EXCEPTION
One of the strategic keys to the Lakers being able to rebuild a championship caliber roster this summer is being able to live with being hard capped with total team salaries to be under $155.7 million for next season.
The Lakers’ three major benefits of being hard capped are (1) the standard $10.4 million MLE, (2) the $4.0 million BAE, and (3) the ability to receive a restricted or unrestricted free agent in a a sign-and-trade transaction. That’s a total of $14.4 million to spend on free agents vs. $6.4 million if not hard capped. Not counting possible sign-and-trades, that means one $10 million and one $5 million per year player or three $5 million players.
Here are four possible free agent starters the Lakers could target with their full standard $10.4 million MLE. Rob Pelinka and the Lakers should be able to sign one of these four players to start with their Mid Level Exception.
1. Isaiah Hartenstein, Los Angeles Clippers Center
Isaiah Hartenstein should be the Lakers top free agent target and they should be willing to use their full $10.4 million MLE if necessary. He can be the modern rim protector and floor stretcher the Lakers need. Hartenstein is the Clippers version of Monk in that they can only offer him $4.7 million.
2. Bruce Brown, Brooklyn Nets Small Forward
Bruce Brown is second on the list of free agent prospects whom the Lakers could pursue with part or all of the $10.4 million full MLE. An elite defender who plays bigger than his 6′ 4″ body, Brown would be a great starting 3&D shooting guard and small forward and perfect fit next to LeBron and AD.
3. Pat Connaughton, Milwaukee Bucks Shooting Guard
Should Pat decline his player option to become an unrestricted free agent, the Lakers should try and sign him with their $10.4 million MLE. Pat is not only an elite defender but also a dead eye 3-point shooter. He would be an elite add to the Lakers for the same reason he’s been so good for the Bucks.
4. Jalen Smith, Indiana Pacers Power Forward
Jalen Smith is another player like Warren or Monk whose likely to leave his current team. The Pacers do not have the ability to match his market value since they declined the third year option on his rookie contract. Smith will certainly receive offers greater than the $5 million the Pacers can pay.
BI-ANNUAL EXCEPTION
The Los Angeles Lakers are eligible to use their $4.1 million Bi-Annual Exception this season to sign one player this season provided they elect to become hard capped at $155.7 million in total salaries for the year.
Being able to sign a non-minimum salary player via the BAE gives the Lakers another opportunity to add an important role player to the roster. The two trades and MLE and BAE will let the Lakers to build a deep roster. The Lakers want a rotation with no minimum salary players. Assuming an 8 or 9 player rotation, that means the Lakers need to add six or seven new quality rotation players to superstars LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
Here are four possible free agent players the Lakers could target with their $4.1 million BAE. Rob Pelinka and the Lakers should be able to sign one of these four rotation players to their Bi-Annual Exception.
1. Otto Porter, Jr., Golden State Warriors Power Forward
Otto Porter, Jr. should be the Lakers top target for their $4.1M BAE. The Warriors are likely to be moving on from several minimum salary players as James Wiseman and Jonathan Kuminga take on more minutes. Porter is a perfect bigger 3&D wing who can shoot the three and defend big wings.
2. Nemanja Bjelica, Golden State Warriors Power Forward
Nemanja Bjelica is the next Golden State minimum salary player who would be a perfect fit on the Lakers. Nemanja has good size and mobility and is an elite 3-point shooter who complements James and Davis. He should be the Lakers second choice for their Bi-Annual Exception.
3. Gary Payton II, Golden State Warriors Shooting Guard
Gary Payton II is another Warriors’ minimum salary player who’s likely to become an unrestricted free agent this summer and would be a perfect candidate to sign with the Lakers for their B-Annual Exception. Payton is an elite defender who should fit in great coming off the bench with the Lakers.
4. Damian Lee, Golden State Warriors Shooting Guard
Damian Lee is another minimum salary player who’s earned regular minutes in the Warriors’ rotation but is likely to be allowed to walk as a free agent this summer. Lee can play defense, shoot the three, and is a bench player who’s proven he can play well on a contending team.
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The Lakers have four paths to add 5 or 6 legitimate rotation players to complement LeBron James and Anthony Davis:
1. 2 Players from Trading Westbrook.
2. 1 player from Trading THT.
3. 1 or 2 players from $10.4M Full MLE.
4. 1 player from $4.1M BAE. https://t.co/Kh1VOUtC67— LakerTom (@LakerTom) May 25, 2022
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Complete breakdown of the Lakers' four best targets for Russell Westbrook trade and for Talen Horton-Tucker trade as well as top four free agent targets for the Lakers' $10.4M MLE and $4.1M BAE.https://t.co/Kh1VOUtC67
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) May 25, 2022
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I’ve tried to figure out what would be my top four picks in Russ trade, a THT trade, a $10.4M MLE, and a $4.1M BAE. It’s my offseason ‘roster building’ magnus opus. Hope you enjoy it. Please let me know whom you like and whom I missed. There’s a great Lakers team to be built. Thanks.
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Aloha Tom, while I won’t say that none of your Russ trades won’t happen, I will say that most of the names have value and other teams will be interested in them as well. Their teams will look for ways to return a better package then just dumping them. In most cases Russ would be the last resort. The one exception would be Hayward. I don’t see many teams interested in him due to his age, injury history and salary. Although without a pick you would probably have to substitute Plumlee for Oubre. Obure is a useful player that they either will keep or use in a trade for the center they are shopping for. As for the Rockets they are not going to take Russ and keep Wall. That’s nearly a 100 mil in dead money. You might look at using THT to get Wood instead.
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Okay Tom, here is my favorite THT trade. The Lakers send THT, Nunn and hopefully only a 2nd round pick to the Raptors for OG Anunoby. He’s only 24 and at 6’ 7” with a 7’ 2” wing span he is long like most of the Raptors wings. He is a classic 3 and D wing that is .371 lifetime from 3. Why would the Raptors do this deal? Well first, they really like THT. They tried to get him for Lowry and in that 3 way trade at the deadline with the Knicks that fell apart. They also did not have a viable back up PG which Nunn would be perfect for. And wings are the one position they are deep at. Barnes is already flashing superstar potential and will probably start next year. The one problem is they are hunting for a center and would probably use OG if say Turner comes on the market. Still they will have their full MLE to use and there will be centers out there.
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Good suggestion, Michael. I like OG and he plays bigger than 6′ 7.” I understand the Lakers not wanting to give up a FRP in a Westbrook trade as they need them to make a THT trade worth more. The only time I would give up a pick in a Russ trade is if it were expanded to include better players.
Players like Anunoby who are young and talented are exactly the kind of players we need both to win right now and not throw away our future. We just need five or six of them which isn’t going to happen. Be lucky to get three who can start and complement LeBron and AD.
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Quite the magnum opus there, LT.
I like all of these trades in a vacuum, obviously I’ve moved on from hoping THT finds his game as a Laker and don’t ever see him as anything more than capable role player on a competitive team. To get a player of Grant’s caliber would be, in my opinion, a heckuva coup.
Getting to a place where we could hard cap ourselves is trickier. As you know I don’t think we’ll end up trading Russ this summer. Without trading Russ there is no path available to put ourselves in the position to use those spending tools.
However, should we trade Russ and open up those spending tools I like all of those players. It would also put us back in play to retain the services of Monk. The spending tools we can use via the hard cap is the one thing I hold out hope for regarding Rob’s odd stance to trading Russ without additional draft picks in the mix.
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Thanks for reading and commenting, Jamie. I’ve had this article in the works for about a week, trying to find a way to include the latest posturing by the Lakers regarding a possible Russ trade and narrow down the best 4 options for Russ trade, THT trade, MLE, and BAE.
Who knows what will happen this summer. I remain optimistic and believe we will end up trading Russ in a slightly expanded deal where we give up a pick for maybe better players than the first offers. For example, maybe we give the Hornets Russ and a pick and they give us Hayward and Washington instead of Hayward and Oubre. It’s part of my Westbrook Rules.
Monk and Nunn are two wild cards that could help the Lakers. Monk could be one of the targets for the MLE and we might keep Nunn as we need a backup point guard. We need 3 starters and 5 reserves or 8 players to fill out roster. Nunn could reduce that to just 7, which we might be able to get from trades and exceptions.
I’m optimistic about the Lakers hard capping because it gives us another $8 million to spend on free agents and we know the Lakers do not like to pay luxury taxes so this could easily happen. The ability to receive a S&T player and get $8 million more in free agents could be a life saver for the Lakers this summer.
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We’ll see, I still got 50/50 odds Russ will be on our roster come camp.
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Hope you’re wrong. I think he burned that bridge in his final interview as a Laker. He won’t ever put on purple and gold again.
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There are no burned bridges. Kobe wanted to play on Pluto, remember?
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Dominant size at every position was how the Lakers won the 2020 NBA championship in the bubble, playing a jumbo starting lineup that averaged 6′ 8″ or 2 inches taller at all five positions than the average NBA team.
Watching this season’s undersized version of those Lakers consistently lose the rebounding and points-in-the-paint battles will hopefully force the front office to reprioritize their roster building strategy to focus on getting bigger. What had been a fearsome small-ball-on-steroids attack that dominated at both ends of the court in the bubble has somehow evolved into undersized micro-ball lineups with Anthony Davis or LeBron James as the only big.
Positional size is not about prioritizing size over needed basketball skillsets. It’s about building a roster with players who are just as good at shooting, passing, rebounding, and defending as any at their position but are bigger. Having a size advantage at every position is game changing at both ends of the court, as Lakers’ opponents discovered in the bubble. The Lakers dominated the boards and paint playing two bigs and small-ball-on-steroids.
While size matters in the NBA, just being big is not enough and players need quickness, foot speed, and physicality to play and defend their position and not be constantly hunted by teams and played off the floor defensively. Heading into this summer, the Lakers’ top priority after hiring a head coach and trading Russell Westbrook should be to return to their winning strategy of positional size advantage when rebuilding around LeBron and AD.
Positional size is about creating a team-wide size advantage that translates into opposing teams getting worn out fighting against bigger players and frustrated as they give up more points, rebounds, blocked shots, and steals. It’s also about not just about size alone; it’s about how a player uses size. LeBron James and Anthony Davis, for example, both play bigger than their physical measurements as do players like P.J. Tucker and Bruce Brown.
Let’s take a look at why positional size is so important to the Lakers, how more positional size will impact the team offensively and defensively, and why greater positional size is the key to the purple and gold winning #18.
Why Is Positional Size Such a Key Factor in Lakers’ Rebuild?
Restoring the positional size advantage that helped them win the 2020 NBA championship should be the Los Angeles Lakers top priority this summer. Positional size is the strategic wild card the Lakers need to fully embrace.
The last two year’s injury plagued seasons should have convinced the Lakers’ front office that playing injury-prone Anthony Davis or 37-year old LeBron James extensively at center was not a smart strategic move to make. James at the four and Anthony at the five leave the Lakers undersized at both positions since at 6′ 9″ James is 1 inch shorter and at 6′ 10″ Davis 2 inches shorter than today’s average NBA power forward and center.
But were the Lakers to acquire a new enter like 6′ 11″ Myles Turner or 7′ 0″ Isaiah Hartenstein and move 6′ 10″ Anthony Davis to the four and 6′ 9″ LeBron James to the three, they’d have a size edge at all three positions. That’s why the smart way for the Lakers to get bigger is by adding a 6′ 11″ to 7′ 1″ center and moving 6′ 9″ James and 6′ 10″ Davis down a position rather than playing the four and five and adding size with a bigger small forward.
Making positional size part of the roster building strategy reflects that players at all positions have been and will continue to get bigger and their wingspans longer so it makes sense to prioritize size when the rest is equal. The other thing to remember is it’s how the player plays that matters more than his height measurement. Individual motor, vertical leap, and physicality can empower players to play greater than their physical size.
While LeBron James and Anthony Davis have the skill and talent to play bigger than they are, their best positions are most likely small and power forward where they have a definite size advantage over their competition.
How Will Positional Size Will Impact Lakers Offensively?
Offensively, having positional size advantage should enable the Lakers to dominate the paint, score at the rim, and control the boards, playing both a versatile bully-ball two-bigs and small-ball-on-steroids style of basketball.
Restoring the Lakers’ positional size advantage on offense starts with a young modern two-way center to start games to enable Anthony Davis to start at the four in regular season games like during the championship year. Starting a 6′ 11″ to 7′ 1″ young stud at center and sliding Anthony Davis and LeBron James down a position to power forward and small forward would give the Lakers a significant 2″ advantage at all three front court positions.
The only tweak the Lakers should make is adding a modern center who can not only block shots and protect the rim but can also stretch the court with 3-point shooting and defend well enough not to get played off the floor. Acquiring a modern two-way center like Turner or Hartenstein could also limit the wear-and-tear and potential injuries due to Anthony Davis having to deal with the raw physicality of playing center in the regular season.
By adding a stretch five center like Myles Turner or Isaiah Hartenstein, the Lakers can upgrade their positional size advantage in the front court and also improve their shooting, rebounding, and points-in-the-paint issues.
How Will Positional Size Impact Lakers Defensively?
Last season, the Lakers’ lack of positional size hurt them defensively in three areas: lack of front court size to control the boards, shot blockers to protect the rim, and guards or wings with the size to defend paint post ups.
Defensively, the Lakers need to get bigger at every position. They need a true starting center with the size to physically bang with Jokic, Embiid, Towns, and other NBA centers who are too big or too physical for Davis. They need bigger small forwards who can guard taller wing scorers like Durant, Antetokounmpo, and Doncic. And they need bigger guards who can switch everything and not be constantly hunted as easy prey on defense.
Adding a defensive center who can protect the rim and defend in space, a proven wing defender who can guard bigger wing scorers, and bigger guards who can switch everything will give Lakers a positional size edge. They may start games with a traditional two bigs lineup with Davis at the four and the new center at the five and close games by replacing the center with an elite wing defender and finishing with small-ball-on-steroids.
Defensively, having positional size advantage should enable the Lakers to transform poor rebounding, weak shot blocking, and easily hunted defenders from being their greatest weaknesses to their greatest strengths.
Why Could Positional Size Be Key to Lakers’ Championship?
Dominant positional size was the path the Los Angeles Lakers took to win their 17th NBA championship and, with a few modernizing tweaks, should be the same strategy they follow when rebuilding their roster this summer.
In many ways, the Lakers have bought in on the league-wide lack of respect for what the center position means to winning in an NBA where Rudy Gobert can win DPOY but can be played off the court by teams going small. The minutes and games that have been wasted with the forgettable and mostly over-the-hill rent-a-centers the Lakers have deployed over the last few seasons is almost criminal. Centers still matter, just like midrange shots.
LeBron James and Anthony Davis give the Lakers an advantage no other NBA team has in that they have two superstars who can play and defend all five positions on the court. They’re solid gold roster building wild cards. Getting bigger by adding a center instead of a forward enables the Lakers to take advantage of their stars’ versatility while reducing their workload and limiting some of the low post physicality that can lead to injuries.
Next to hiring a new head coach and trading Westbrook, bringing in a young modern two-way center to start alongside James and Davis would give the Lakers a significant size advantage at every position.
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The Lakers four most important players are the three players who will start alongside LeBron James and Anthony Davis and the first player off the bench.
Last season, those four players were supposed to be Russell Westbrook, Talen Horton-Tucker, Kendrick Nunn, and Malik Monk. Russ was a disaster, THT regressed, Nunn never played, and Monk surpassed all expectations.
Because of poor play, the Lakers often had two or three minimum salary players filling key starting and rotation roles, which was why they were also outgunned by the competition.
The key this season is getting four quality rotation players who can shoot and play defense but have plus positional size. We need a young two-way modern center who can protect the rim and stretch the floor. We need a couple of bigger wing defenders who can guard bigger wing scorers like Kawhi and Durant. And we need a pair of bigger 3&D guards who can stop easy midrange post ups by bigger wing scorers.
We can get two rotation players in a Westbrook trade, one in a THT trade, and two or three via the full MLE and BAE. The key to the summer will be finding four or five legitimate rotation players to complement LeBron and AD. A great GM could pull this off. The big question is can Rob pull this off.
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Tom, I agree with both you and Jamie. But besides addressing the size issue I would also like to see the role players insert their will into the game instead of just deferring to LeBron and AD. Too often the players look hesitant as if they are not sure what to do in certain situations thereby making the whole scheme look putrid. I want players who can unleash themselves and are not afraid to make a difference, a la Jordan Poole.
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Thanks, Buba. I agree with you about the role players often being too passive. It’s one of the reasons why I’m hoping Ham will emulate what Bud has done and focus more on ball and player movement designed to get threes and layups and dunks and less isolation plays. Keep everybody engaged and moving as the norm. You can always iso LeBron or AD when they have advantages. That takes away the built in hesitancy that heavy superstar iso offenses cause role players to be passive.
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So you’re saying that everyone outside Lebron and AD needs to be upgraded. Whoa man, that’s a keen observation indeed. You keep throwing out those kindsa insights and you may be getting a call from Jeannie any day now.
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Solid article LT. As you know I don’t need to see the stretch five box checked but won’t gripe if it does. Need a quality big who can deter shots at the rim, set screens and roll, and grab boards. One of the things that smacks totally true is that you don’t always have to be big to play big. PJ Tucker, Draymond Green and others of their ilk prove that every season. A lot of Laker issues seemed to stem from a lack of guts and heart last season, nobody took the challenge to push themselves or the team to another level. THT is a perfect example of a guy with the kind of physical tools you like to see in a NBA player but lacks that extra chip that separates them from just another big dude in the court.
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Thanks for reading and commenting, Jamie. The Lakers clearly need to upgrade their 3rd through 6th players. Fortunately, I think they have the chips and path to do it by trading Russ, THT, and the two picks and hard capping to get $14.4M to spend on free agents.
Your point about players utilizing their assets to play bigger really applies when you look at P.J. Tucker and THT, who not only has to learn how to shoot but also how to play big at both ends. Part of the character test we should apply to candidates has to include being andplaying big.
Lakers need to get big across the board and adding a center and moving AD and LeBron down a position is the quickest way to get bigger in the front court. The Pacers trade is how we get bigger in the backcourt. The key could be the $10M MLE.
I still love going after a young physical center like Hartenstein, who’s kind of an Alex Caruso/Austin Reaves type of player at center. Works hard, plays bigger than he really is, has potential to become a stretch five since he shoots the three at 38% on low volume. Averages 1 block and 1 steal per game in just 19 minutes. He could just start games like JaVale with maybe a big wing like Grant or Hayward closing the game.
I’ve been kind of fascinated with the idea of prioritizing our needs by getting a modern center and big wing defender, ideally Hartenstein and maybe Hayward. Both would benefit from sharing the fifth starter/closer role with Hartenstein starting and Hayward closing. This summer would be an unqualified success if we hire Ham, trade Russ to get Hayward, and sign Hartenstein with the MLE. Fill those two big needs should be our top priority.
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Isiah Hartenstein is one heck of a young center I would go for. That guy keeps impressing me the more I watch him play. But are the Clippers going to let us have him? Your reference to JaVale’s role is exactly what I envisioned and makes a ton of sense.
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Aloha Tom,
For me it’s putting players in their best position to succeed and help the team. For me Lebrons best position is power forward. He is so much stronger then most players that an inch or two doesn’t matter. Like Jamies point its how they perform in the position is what counts, no matter how twll they are. While age hasnt affected Lebron much on offense, it has really hurt him on the defensive end. He cant keep up with these big wings anymore. I mean it was telling when we played the Clippers and in crunch time Russ was guarding PG. And we saw that all season. I want to preserve Lebron and having him chase these youn guys all over the court will wear him down. Defensively last year he was at his best when he could sit back and play free safety. He was able to use his high IQ and it resulted in a lot of steals and deflections. As for AD he is one of if not best defensive centers in the NBA. His injuries weren’t do to playing center. They were typical basketball injuries. He does just fine at 6’10. If he had played enough games to qualify he would have tied Jarren Jackson Jr as shot block leader at 2.3 a game. But offense is the main reason i want to keep him in the post. Over the last 2 seasons his jump shot has fallen off and his 3 point shot has fallen off a cliff. He was never great from 3 but 18%. isn’t going to cut it. The one area he still dominates is paint scoring. His combination of strenth and foot work make him unstoppable at times. i hope he can get his jump shot back but for me i cant build a roster assuming he will, after 2 years of poor shooting. This is why my main target would be a wing defender with size. when you have two guys that are the best at their positions, i want to leave them there, and fill other holes on the team.
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We’ll have to A2D, Michael. While I think it’s important to get a bigger 3&D wing, I also think it’s just as important to get an elite shot blocker at center, ideally a stretch five. I think we have the assets to get both this summer. I want Lakers to be able to play big or small.
Give me Hartenstein and Grant and it doesn’t matter who starts, we will have filled our top two defensive needs. Could even vary who starts depending on the matchup. I might even be willing to live with a small back court if we had some shot blocking and wing defense.
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I think we need to be able to adapt. How we start a game does not mean that’s how we finish a game. What I liked about the title winning team is we started with vets (Bradley, Green, LeBron, AD, McGee) and used youth and size off the bench (Caruso, KCP, Kuzma, Rondo, and Howard). Those were the main rotation guys in the regular season and we did a good job adapting combos of those players into workable line ups over the course of the playoffs. We need that kind of flexibility going forward. Might not get all the way there this summer or even next season but that has got to be the goal of the front office.
I think AD’s best use is not at the five, though. He’s always been better on defense as an elite weak-side shot blocker and not a primary rim-deterrent. He can’t muscle guys off the block and isn’t a great box out guy. He uses his athleticism and length. What I like about keeping Dwight and adding Hartenstein is having dudes on the roster who don’t mind mixing it up, set screens at an elite level, roll hard to the rim, and box out at a high level. That’s what we absolutely have to get out of the center position next season.
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Hartenstein is an unrestricted free agent so the Lakers can sign him with part or all of their MLE, which is $6.1M unless we decide to hardcap, in which case it’s $10.1M plus a $4.0M BAE.
I would use whatever part of the MLE we need to sign Hartenstein. He could anchor the center position and would likely only start games so his 19 mpg last season would be similar this year.
I would think we could get him for around $8M per year, more than the $6.4M taxpayer MLE, which would be the main competition.
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So Tom, you don’t consider AD an elite shot blocker? 2.3 per game would have been number one in the league if he played enough games. I just don’t know why you would want to spend our MLE on a 2nd string center that couldn’t beat out Zubac when we have one of the best defensive center in the league. I like Hartenstein. I wanted us to sign him last year. He is a great back up. But I’m not anxious to see LeBron get worn out chasing after wings.
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Aloha, Michael.
I do consider AD to be a terrific shot blocker and I still favor closing games with him at the five. However, I do worry about his durability and there are bigger centers who aren’t good matchups for him.
I think it makes a lot of sense for the Lakers to have a quality starting center like Hartenstein at the five during the regular season. His 7′ 0″ size gives the entire front court lineup a positional size advantage. That Hartenstein can shoot the three is another plus.
To close games, I would love to have a great 3&D wing like Grant or Hayward who could finish the game going small. Were we able to get Grant and decide to go small with AD at the five to start and close games, I would be fine.
Overall, I think we need a young dynamic center because that’s the best way to become dominant in size. But I also agree with you that we don’t want LeBron chasing threes, especially during the regular season, so we do need that bigger 3&D wing.
I think our lack of rim protection was a bigger defensive issue than our lack of big wing defender. Maybe I will change my mind down the road but that’s where I am right now.
I want the versatility of being able to play big or small. No more Jordans and Drummonds. Time Lakers invest in a center who can make LeBron and AD better. That’s Hartenstein, my top target for our MLE this summer.
Bottom line, I want a bully-ball team that dominates sizewise and physicality wise at every position. I think that was the key to winning in the bubble and, with modern tweaks, is how we need to play going forward The only way we get positional size advantage is with a real center who allows AD and LeBron to play the four and three..
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I have to disagree with your assessment of AD Jamie. As a center last year he had as many blocks per game as he did as a PF for us. He matched his career average in blocks. I’ve also seen him dominate star center like Jokic and Embid. Last year Embid went 9 for 20 against him while AD had 31 points, 12 boards and 4 blocks. He also is our closer at the 5. It’s the offensive side that really makes me want him at center. His jump shot and 3 point shooting hasn’t been there for the last two years. He does most of his scoring inside. My bigger concern though is LeBron. Father Time has not been kind to him on the defensive side of the ball. He is not the same guy he was a few years ago. Frank hid him on defense last year. Even crunch time you never saw LeBron taking on small forward or big wings. Russ often drew that assignment which is sad. The value LeBron brought us on defense was when he could sit back and play free safety. I really don’t want LeBron chasing young guys like BI around all season. That would definitely wear him down. If LeBron could still bring the defense it wouldn’t matter as much to me, but he has proven that he cant. Besides we don’t have many assets. Using our MLE for a center when we have AD, doesn’t make much sense to me. I also would keep Howard around and look to bring back Damion Jones. I could see AD sliding to the 4 when LeBron rests but I want him at the 5 when LeBron is out there.
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I understand your point about LeBron guarding bigger wing scorers. There are times when I think our best use of our two draft picks could be to trade THT, Nunn, and the two picks for Jerami Grant. Then sign Hartenstein with the MLE and you solved your two biggest defensive issues. Then you go AD at the 5, LeBron at the 4, and Grant at the 3 with Hartenstein coming off the bench. That could work.
However, that could make it hard to move Russ, which is probably more important use of the pick to at least get quality in return. What do we do about a point guard then? Bottom line, I see a clear path to the Lakers getting Hartenstein. With full MLE, they should be a lock to sign him.
It’s the trade scenarios that bother me. Who is the small forward you’re going to get who would be better defending those threes than Anthony Davis? I agree LeBron can’t do that any more but there is nobody better in the league to shut down a three than AD. That’s why I’m not worried about running LeBron into the ground. He may start at the three but that’s not who he’s going to cover.
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Here’s the problem. With so many holes in our roster and so little capital to fill them…it’s gonna be extremely difficult to run the gauntlet that has become The Western Conference. Yeah, you need size to matchup with big wings like Luka & Kawhi (he still playing?…lol). But you also need quick dudes for when you inevitably face Steph, Jah, & D-Book in the playoffs as well. Brogdon & Heild don’t want nunna that smoke. It’s easy to build a roster to get through the regular season; we woulda been a shoe-in for the playoffs with this season’s squad albeit for the injuries. But the post-season is a different animal.
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I think as long as we have a healthy, rested, and motivated LeBron James and Anthony Davis, we should have a realistic shot at winning a championship. I don’t think that has changed in the last 18 months. We would still have to be lucky as that is another criteria to winning it all. So I’m not concerned with all the negative talk about how there’s no way the Lakers can rebuild a championship roster. It won’t be impossible and may be difficult but it can be done.
I see our roster broken up into three groups: 5 starters, 5 backups, and 4 reserves with one open roster spot.
We have 2 of the 5 starters with LeBron and AD and 4 of the 4 reserves with Reaves, Johnson, Gabriel, and Howard. What we need are the other 3 starters and 5 backups. I would try and keep Nunn as 1 of the 5 backups, meaning we need 7 more players who are better than the 4 reserves: 3 starters and 4 backups.
I think we can trade Russ and THT for 3 or 4 rotation payers and sign 2 or 3 with our MLE and BAE. That’s 5 to 7 players via trade and free agency to fill the 7 openings in the roster. And 1 less player if we bought a second round pick in the draft.
At any rate, I believe we have a shot at adding 5 to 7 new players who will be major upgrades over what we had last year as non-superstar starters and rotation players.
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Sooo…lets say all these dream scenarios magically come true and we end up with Hartenstein, Brogdon, Hield, & Grant, Or Wood, Eric Gordon, and whoever. Along with the dudes we found on the street this season. That squad won’t be favored over any of the current top 4 in The West in a 7 game series. No way. Only chance is if a team suffers a serious injury like MEM losing Jah in the middle of that series vs GSW. Lebron just simply isn’t that dude anymore who can carry a team on his back for 45 minutes of playoff basketball every other night. And we’ve only seen AD come close to being that dude ONE time in his entire career….that was in the impossible to duplicate Bubble environment. Needless to say, I just don’t see #18 happening next summer.
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Considering where we are right now, I would have to agree that we would be a longshot to win #18 next season. But I would love to go insto the season with Buddy and Malcolm at guard, Grant at the three, LeBron at the four, and AD at the five with Hartenstein coming off the bench. I think that could be a championship team that go big with two bigs or small with small ball on steroids.
The problem to me is that next season could be our best opportunity to win #18 this decade so we really have no choice but to go all-in to win it next season. Will be a challenge for sure, like threading a needle to make it all work but there’s no other option realistically. Going to have to hope for some balancing of the luck from the basketball gods for sure.
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That roster ain’t beating GSW, PHX, or MEM as currently constructed because they all have backcourts that’ll torch us every night with their quickness & superior ball movement. Not to mention their depth, versatility and continuity. We would have to seriously thread the needle to even have a shot. That means every trade & signing has to hit 100% (that never happens), all the new dudes need to adapt to LeBron (not easy to do), and the new coach needs to hit the ground running with everyone buying into his system. All that stuff coming to fruition in a single season is like trying to pass a camel through the eye of a needle (Bible reference…lol). Yeah…we have to make the moves and give it try but I feel like it’s just gonna make the rebuild that much harder in 2 years with no draft picks and a buncha old/slow dudes in the cupboard.
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This is just too good a trade for the Lakers to come true but they should pursue it. Only way I see the Pacers being interested is the two unprotected post-LeBron picks. Long shot but possible.