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While most NBA pundits and front office execs expect the Lakers to end up trading Russell Westbrook and their two first round picks to the Pacers, there’s a case to be made that the Jazz could be better fits as trade partners.
The Lakers almost pulled the trigger before camp on trading Westbrook and two picks to the Pacers for Turner and Hield. In the end, however, they were not sure those two would make them contenders so decided to wait. Criticized for not finishing the Pacers trade, Pelinka may have made the right decision as the Lakers had a chance to get glimpse of the future as multiple red hot Jazz 3-point shooters aced last night’s Lakers’ trade tryout.
While many Lakers’ fans were dismayed at the favored Lakers ending their brief two-game winning streak and losing to the Jazz last night, the silver lining is the Lakers front office got to visualize what a Utah trade could do. Imagine if the Lakers could trade Westbrook and draft capital for Lauri Markkanen, Jordan Clarkson, Kelly Olynyk, and Jarred Vanderbilt. The Lakers’ size and shooting issues would suddenly be ancient history.
There’s also been no lack of teams interested in acquiring one or both of the Lakers’ 2027 and 2029 unprotected post-LeBron James first round draft picks. Interested teams include the Jazz, Pacers, Spurs, and Hornets. Ideally, the Lakers want a two, three, or four team trade where they can put together a best of what’s available from the interested teams. That’s the only way the Lakers will be able to get more than two impact players.
After watching this young Lakers team over the first 8 games of the season, it’s easy to see how good they could be with more size, shooting, and versatility. They’re literally a couple of good trades from being a top team. The Lakers clearly know now what they need and have a good idea of what is available. It’s time for Rob Pelinka to take a hard look and decide whether to pursue a blockbuster trade with the Indiana Pacers or the Utah Jazz.
Here are the three reasons why a Russell Westbrook and draft picks trade with Utah Jazz offers the Lakers the best opportunity to create a better, deeper, more versatile roster than trading with any of other partners.
1. The Jazz value the Lakers picks the most
The first reason the Los Angeles Lakers should trade Russell Westbrook and their two picks to the Utah Jazz is no general manger values L.A.’s 2027 and 2029 unprotected first round picks more than the Jazz’ Danny Ainge.
Ainge is convinced, as are many Lakers fans, that the team’s ownership and front office are so terrible at their jobs that those post-LeBron James and maybe even Anthony Davis first round picks could be extremely valuable.
So valuable that Ainge even offered to give the Lakers one of Utah’s three first round picks for 2023 plus a package of players including Bogdanovic for Westbrook and the Lakers’ 2027 and 2029 unprotected first round picks.Considering Russell Westbrook’s value at this point in time is as an expiring contract rather than as a desirable player, his recent excellent play coming off the bench could theoretically change one or more NBA teams’ minds. However, it’s the tantalizing prospect of the Lakers’ 2027 and 2029 first round picks turning out to be top-5 picks because the Lakers will likely be horrible once LeBron retires just like they were once Kobe retired.
But Ainge’s eagerness to acquire the two Lakers picks clearly gives L.A. an edge in negotiating with Utah. In the end, Danny is betting he can read the tea leaves of what’s going to happen to the Lakers better than anyone else.
That means he’s probably willing if possible to give the Lakers whatever they want because bottom line, the Jazz want to be players in the Victor Wembanyama sweepstakes and right now they’re winning too often.Danny Ainge obviously values the Lakers two unprotected first round draft picks more than any other potential Westbrook trade partner, which is the first reason the Lakers should seriously consider trading with the Jazz.
2. The Jazz can offer the most depth in players
The second reason the Lakers should look towards the Jazz as possibly their best Russell Westbrook trading partner is they have multiple legitimate rotation players who shoot the three and would give L.A. critical depth.
The Lakers desperately need a modern starting center, multiple quality volume 3-point shooters, and proven veteran backup forwards to reduce the minutes and workload on superstars LeBron James and Anthony Davis. The Utah Jazz essentially have a half dozen legitimate rotation players on tradeable contracts who can shoot the three and would be great fits and complements playing alongside LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
Assuming the Lakers don’t want to pay more luxury taxes, they need to bring back four players from the Jazz who not only are great fits as future starters or primary backups but also have salaries equal to $47 million.
The four players the Lakers should trade for are 25-year old power forward Lauri Markkanen, 30-year old shooting guard Jordan Clarkson, 31-year old center Kelly Olynyk, and 25-year old power forward Jarred Vanderbilt.Here are those four players’ metrics and stats for this and last season:
-Lauri Markkanen, 25-year old power forward, 7′ 0″, 240 lbs
(2021–22) 11.5/5.7/1.3 shooting 44.5%/35.8%/86.8% on 11.5/6.2/2.6 shots
(2022–23) 22.2/9.4/2.7 shooting 51.5%/29.9%/85.0% on 16.3/6.7/4.0 shots-Jordan Clarkson, 30-year old, 6′ 5″, 195 lbs
(2021–22) 16.0/3.5/2.5 shooting 41.9%/31.8%/82.8% on 14.1/7.6/3.2 shots
(2022–23) 17.4/4.8/5.3 shooting 41.8%/36.3%/70.7% on 15.3/8.0/2.4 shots-Kelly Olynyk, 31-year old center, 6′ 11″, 240 lbs
(2021–22) 7.2/4.4/2.8 shooting 44.8%/33.6%/77.5% on 7.2/3.0/2.2 shots
(2022–23) 12.7/4.1/3.4 shooting 56.1%/59.4%/66.7% on 8.2/3.2/2.4 shots-Jarred Vanderbilt, 25-year old shooting guard, 6′ 9, 187lbs
(2021–22) 12.1/2.9/1.5 shooting 39.1%/37.7%/81.7% on 10.8/8.1/0.8 shots
(2022–23) 10.7/3.0/1.1 shooting 39.4%/38.6%/87.5% on 9.9/5.7/0.8 shotsMarkkanen is the one player whom the Lakers must get in this trade to make it a better move for the Lakers than trading Westbrook to the Pacers. Without him, the Jazz’ package is only worth one unprotected pick.
Markkanen would fit perfectly in the Lakers’ starting lineup along with James at the three, Davis at the five, and Walker IV at the two. Markkanen will be a good test of just how much Danny Ainge wants the Lakers’ picks.The trade would be a huge win for the Lakers, giving them one high level starter with needed size and shooting and three elite role players including quality backups for LeBron James, Anthony Davis, and Lauri Markkanen.
The Jazz are the only possible Russell Westbrook trade partner who has four legitimate rotation players who would be great fits with the Lakers and whose combined salaries total $47 million so that the trade is tax neutral.The Utah Jazz obviously have the widest and deepest portfolio of legitimate rotation players for the Lakers to chose from in trade Russell Westbrook. That’s the second reason the Lakers should trade Russ to the Utah Jazz.
3. The Jazz will give back a 2023 first round pick
The third reason the Jazz should be the Lakers most promising Westbrook trade partner is they have a surplus of first round picks and are willing to give the Lakers one of their three 2023 first round picks as part of the trade.
Ainge first brought up the option of giving a first round pick back to secure their 2027 and 2028 unprotected first round draft picks when Utah and Los Angeles were discussing a Westbrook for Bogdanovic trade this offseason.
Getting back a 2023 first round pick back would allow the Lakers to put together an attractive package to go after the Hornets’ Terry Rozier to be the starting point guard to complete a championship starting lineup.That would give the Lakers a dynamic and deep 10-man rotation that should elevate them to legitimate championship contender status. If Pelinka can pull off these two trades, Lakers might even be favorites.
-Terry Rozier, 28-year old point guard, 6′ 1″, 190 lbs
(2021–22) 19.3/4.3/4.5 shooting 44.4%/37.4%/85.2% on 16.0/8.1/2.4 shots
(2022–23) 23.5/7.0/8.5 shooting 39.5%/40.0%/87.5% on 16.3/15.0/8.0 shots
A starting lineup of Terry Rozier, Lonnie Walker IV, LeBron James, Lauri Markkanen, and Anthony Davis could be the best in the league as could be a second string of Schroeder, Clarkson, Brown, Vanderbilt, and Olynyk.That’s a 10-man rotation that not only can compete for a championship this season but also positions the Lakers with a great portfolio of tradeable players in reasonable contracts to make follow up trades at the deadline.
Here’s a final breakdown of the three team trade , which cannot be executed until November 21st, when Kelly Olynyk will become eligible to traded as a recently traded player. Lakers also waive Damian Jones.
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Aloha Tom,
this trade is so far removed from any deal the Jazz offered, it would never happen. first of all that first round pick they offered was with a package of Bondovic, Conley and Gay. you wont get a first rounder back unless at Conley is in the deal. The talks died because we wouldn’t take Conley. The Jazz didn’t counter. secondly there has been no indication that Lauri and Vanderbilt are even on the market. there only has been media speculation that the Jazz wants to be bad and might trade everyone. That was before the season started. But those two are both just 25 and playing extremely well. Lauri is playing so well that if they did decide to trade him, they could get a first round pick just for him. i also wonder what Danny will do now, with the team playing so well. it would be a nightmare with the fans if he tore down the team while they play as good as they are. heck they keep this up the Jazz might become buyers. I suspect the Jazz will hold off on any moves until the team begins to fade. If they do. they are ready have a ton of picks and could hold off to see what happens.
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All good points, Michael. It will come down to how much does Danny value two unprotected post LeBron first round picks. I wouldn’t give up both picks for any Utah deal without Markkanen. If the Jazz say no, Lakers turn to Pacers.
I also think Ainge is not going to be detracted by the current Jazz record. Team is not going to do this well all year long and is not built to win against top teams. They will start to lose more games and Ainge knows this is not a winning team. Just better than the old Jazz team, which is not enough. Ainge is going to tank all the way.
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I know we cannot swap LBJ, but would be great for Warriors and LBJ. Give us Poole, Pick, etc.
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LakerTom wrote a new post
The Los Angeles Lakers would be smart to prioritize fit with LeBron James and Anthony Davis as the most important factor when deciding with whom to trade and what players to pursue to complete their unfinished roster.
It’s not like there’s a secret to building a roster around LeBron James and Anthony Davis. You need size so Davis can play his preferred, less physical power forward position rather than center and lots of 3-point shooting. We’ve seen the last two seasons what happens when you don’t surround LeBron and AD with players who fit as the Lakers followed their 2020 championship in the bubble by missing the playoffs two years in a row.
To upgrade the roster to give rookie head coach Darvin Ham the right players to fit the offensive and defensive schemes he brought with him from the Bucks, the Lakers goal must be to trade for three new starters. Right now, the Lakers’ current roster desperately needs more size and shooting. Neither of their young centers is ready to start and none of the starting guards has the elite volume 3-point shooting to space the floor.
The Lakers need a starting center who can space the floor and protect the rim, a starting shooting guard who can rain threes, and a starting point guard who can make plays, shoot the three, and defend his position. Trading Westbrook and draft capita for three legitimate starter quality players would not only dramatically upgrade the starting lineup but also the bench with the three players who are currently starting for L.A.
Assuming LeBron James will play small forward and Anthony Davis his favored power forward, the Lakers would then need to trade Russell Westbrook for a new starting center, shooting guard, and point guard.
Starting Center?
To replicate Darvin Ham’s offensive and defensive schemes, the Lakers need a stretch five center who can space the floor and protect the rim. It’s a critical role that the team hoped Thomas Bryant or Damian Jones could fill.
Unfortunately, neither Bryant or Jones has been up to the challenge of starting, forcing the Lakers to start injury prone Anthony Davis at the five despite his injury history and publicly stated preference to play the four. One of the Lakers top priority in trading Russell Westbrook is acquiring a modern center who can both space the court as well as protect the rim. The top candidate for that position is Indiana Pacers’ center Myles Turner.
Turner is unique as he not only allows Anthony Davis to play his preferred power forward position and LeBron James his normal small forward position which gives both Lakers superstars positional size advantage. Myles Turner not only solves the Lakers need for a stretch five center ala the Bucks’ Brook Lopez but also provides the spacing to unleash superstars LeBron James and Anthony Davis to cause havoc by getting to the rim.
There are other viable big man candidates who could be good stretch fits with the Lakers, including the Jazz’ Lauri Markkanen and Kelly Olynyk, but neither of them is the rim protector and shot blocker than Myles Turner is. Trading with Utah Jazz for both Markkanen and Olynyk along with Beasley and Clarkson, however, could be an attractive alternative for the Lakers to trading with the Indiana Pacers for Myles Turner and Buddy Hield.
While Turner will boost the Lakers’ offense, it’s what he will do the Lakers #2 ranked NBA defense that excites basketball aficionados and fans most. Turner would elevate the Lakers’ defense to be the best in the league.
Starting Shooting Guard?
While the Lakers need to upgrade their team 3-point shooting, trading for Indiana Pacers elite volume 3-point shooting guard Buddy Hield would be an immediate and massive improvement to their ability to space the floor.
The Lakers have long coveted Buddy Hield, who’s the kind of dead-eye volume 3-point shooter other teams cannot afford to leave alone because he is a career 39.8% 3-point shooter who averages 7.6 threes per game. Buddy is off to a sizzling start this season, averaging 17.8 points, 5.4 boards, and 4.1 dimes while shooting 42.7% from deep on 9.7 attempts per game, 5th behind Steph Curry, Dame Lillard, Kyrie Irving, and Anfernee Simons.
Right now, the lack of a 3-point shooting threat has enabled opposing defenses to pack the paint against LeBron James, Anthony Davis, and Russell Westbrook and to limit how often they can get to the basket.
Besides Buddy Hield, the Lakers have shown interest in Josh Richardson, Eric Gordon, and other elite 3-point shooters. The fact that the Pacers have the Lakers top options at center and shooting guard makes Indy a priority.While Buddy Hield is not a great defender, he is a great 3-point shooter. He is so dangerous that teams cannot afford to leave him alone or even to help off him. He essentially turns the game into 4-on-4 for the Lakers offense. The difference in the spacing a team gets when they play 4-on-4 vs. 5-on-5 is potentially game changing for a team like the Lakers whose superstars are not elite long range shooters who prefer to attack the paint and rim.
Buddy Hield is the perfect fit to provide the Lakers with the elite high volume, high percentage 3-point shooting they need to give LeBron James and Anthony Davis the spacing and open lanes they need to attack the rim.
Starting Point Guard
Once the Lakers trade Westbrook to the Pacers for Myles Turner and Buddy Hield, they need to make a trade with the unfortunate Charlotte Hornets who may have been forced to tank by the lure of Victor and Melo injury.
The target of that trade would be Hornets’ point guard and shot creator extraordinaire Terry Rozier, who is in the first year of a massive 4-year $96 million extension that Michael Jordan might be seriously reconsidering. Dumping 4-year $96 million contracts usually cost an NBA team a first round pick. The Lakers should be able to trade for Rozier ($21M/Yr) with Beverley’s million and Nunn’s ($18M/Yr Combined) expiring contracts.
Like Myles Turner and Buddy Hield, Terry Rozier is also off to a hot start to the season, averaging 23.5 points, 7.0 boards, and 8.5 dimes while shooting 40.0% on 7.5 threes per game. Hornets are now 3–4 and 9th in the East.
Once the season hits the 20-game mark, Jordan is likely to decide the smart move is to tank the season and see if they get lucky and get a top pick, while at the same time assessing what’s going to happen with Bridges and Ball.The biggest thing that Rozier brings to the Lakers is the ability to get a shot for himself or a teammate any time in the game. He’s the perfect replacement for Russell Westbrook in that he’s an elite 3-point shooter.
The Lakers have spent the last two years, multiple reliable role players, and a couple of sorely missed draft picks futilely trying to find somebody who could play point guard and take primary playmaking duties from LeBron.Terry Rozier is exactly what the Lakers need to accomplish the goal of giving the ball to somebody else to make the team more versatile and dangerous and reduce the playmaking load from superstar LeBron James.
Championship Contender?
The addition of Myles Turner, Buddy Hield, and Terry Rozier clearly give the Los Angeles Lakers the additional front court size and 3-point shooting to become a legitimate contender to win their 18th NBA championship.
Right now, the Lakers have the 2nd ranked defense in the league and the 30th ranked offense. The additions of Turner, Hield, and Rozier should dramatically upgrade the Lakers offensively, especially their shooting.
The addition of Myles Turner should make the Laker 2nd ranked defense even better as Darvin Ham will be able to have an elite shot blocker and rim protector on the court for the full 48 minutes of every NBA game.The L.A. Lakers traded three players — Russell Westbrook, Patrick Beverley, and Kendrick Nunn (plus two first round draft picks) — to the Indiana Pacers for three players — Myles Turner, Buddy Hield, and Terry Rozier. That leaves the Lakers with 15 players on the roster plus two-way players Cole Swider and Scotty Pippin, Jr. Even after moving Westbrook, the Lakers will have $24 million in expiring contracts to use at the trade deadline.
It will be interesting to see whether the Lakers continue tweaking their roster at the trade deadline. On December 15, recently signed players will be eligible to be traded as well as players traded before October 15th.
While the Lakers won’t have any draft picks to trade at the deadline, they will have, besides James and Davis, over $65 million in tradeable contracts, including Rozier’s $21.4 million, Hield’s $21.1 million, Turner’s $18 million.Trading Russell Westbrook, Patrick Beverley, Kendrick Nunn, and two first round picks for Myles Turner, Buddy Hield, and Terry Rozier would make the Los Angeles Lakers legitimate contenders for their 18th championship.
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Not sure if the Lakers have enough to get Turner, Hield, and Rozier but they’re what it would take in my opinion for the Lakers to become a legitimate championship contender this year.
Starting lineup might be best in the league but we still lack proven backups for LeBron and AD and only have Walker’s $6.5 million as non-starter tradeable contracts over minimum.
Be thrilled with this roster. Rozier and Hield would solve the shooting woes and Turner the stretch five and rim protector roles. Offense and defense would get huge boosts.
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Starting Center?
While Turner will boost the Lakers’ offense, it’s what he will do the Lakers #2 ranked NBA defense that excites basketball aficionados and fans most. Turner would elevate the Lakers’ defense to be the best in the league.https://t.co/VBlTks2vKP pic.twitter.com/p0ywSLjRJL
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) November 2, 2022
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Starting Shooting Guard?
Buddy Hield is the perfect fit to provide the Lakers with the elite high volume, high percentage 3-point shooting they need to give LeBron James and Anthony Davis the spacing and open lanes they need to attack the rim.https://t.co/VBlTks2vKP pic.twitter.com/ar0anIeNHM
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) November 2, 2022
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Starting Point Guard
Terry Rozier is exactly what the Lakers need to accomplish the goal of giving the ball to somebody else to make the team more versatile and dangerous and reduce the playmaking load from superstar LeBron James.https://t.co/VBlTks2vKP pic.twitter.com/5vFnorkpIA
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) November 2, 2022
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The Los Angeles Lakers’ decision to wait until the end of November when the team will have played 20 games suddenly appears to be a major mistake as the Lakers are now 0–4 and their season is already at risk of being lost.
Only two teams in NBA history have made the playoffs after starting the season with an 0–4 record and neither of those teams won a championship. The last time the Lakers started 0–4, they only won 17 games all year long. Should the Lakers continue to stay patient, it’s possible they might finish the first 20 games of the season with a 5–15 record, which would make it close to impossible for them to make the playoff even with a mega trade.
Right now, the paralysis that’s infected the decision makers in the Lakers’ front office is threatening not only to derail this season but also to throw a major monkey wrench in the critical Lakers-Klutch Sports relationship. The Lakers promised LeBron James when he agreed to sign his extension that they would trade both picks to fix the team’s size and shooting issues and elevate the team to become a legitimate championship contender.
Entering the season when he’ll turn 38-years old, LeBron James has to be approaching the end of his championship window. The Lakers not keeping their promise to James would be a death blow to their alliance with Klutch. That could not only affect the Lakers relationship with LeBron James but also with Anthony Davis, Lonnie Walker IV, Troy Brown, Jr., Kendrick Nunn, and Juan Toscano-Anderson, who also are Klutch Sports clients.
That’s why Rob Pelinka has to abandon his original plans to wait 20 games until the end of November in hopes of being able to trade for Kyrie Irving or a third superstar to go with LeBron and AD and trade Russ right now. While teams know the Lakers are desperate, there are still three or four teams, including Indiana, San Antonio, Charlotte, and Utah, whom have strong interest in acquiring one or both of the Lakers unprotected picks.
Once Pelinka commits to trading Russ and two unprotected picks, the Lakers should receive multiple offers. Their negotiating goal during the offseason was to put together a multiple team trade to optimize return. Right now, the Lakers have identified four role players who are now their primary trade targets. Those four players are the Pacers’ Myles Turner and Buddy Hield, the Spurs’ Josh Richardson, and the Hornets’ Terry Rozier.
Ideally, Rob Pelinka would like to pull off a 3-team trade where the Lakers trade Westbrook and their unprotected 2027 and 2029 first round draft picks for Myles Turner, Buddy Hield, and Terry Rozier as new starters. That’s a trade that would add three a dynamic young center who can stretch the floor and protect the rim and two high volume, high percentage 3-point shooters who shoot over eight threes per game while shooting near 40%.
Turner, Hield, and Rozier would immediately replace Beverley, Walker, and Reaves and be three major upgrades to the Los Angeles Lakers‘ starting lineup’s size and shooting to unleash LeBron James and Anthony Davis. Aside from upgrading the starting lineup, moving Beverley, Walker, and Reaves to the bench immediately improves the Lakers’ depth. What used to be the team’s 3rd, 4th, and 5th best players are now its 6th, 7th, and 8th.
The Lakers have one more games left on this mini road trip against the Minnesota Timberwolves Friday night and then they return home for a a quick second game and chance for revenge against the Denver Nuggets.
I’m hopeful that the Lakers slow start to the season will force Pelinka to reengage with Indiana, San Antonio, Charlotte, and Utah and find the best possible return for Westbrook and the team’s two first round draft picks.The Lakers’ slow start to the season has made it impossible for the Lakers to wait to trade Russell Westbrook until the end of November when they’ve played 20 games. Pelinka needs to consummate a trade as soon as possible.
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Lakers may already have eliminated themselves from being a contender with their 0-4 start that could rapidly turn into an 0-7 start. Pelinka needs to be on the phones. Doesn’t matter that Lakers are desperate because there are four teams out there who all want one or both of the Lakers 2027 and 2029 unprotected picks, which teams expect to be extremely valuable.
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Tom, one thing is becoming clearer and clearer to me: this team is going nowhere as presently constructed. It is worse than I anticipated in the summer. Something needs to be done. My thought was to ride out the season and make the necessary changes next summer when Russ’s contract comes off the book. But finding a good trade right now is about all we need. Will that ever happen? And when? It’s hard for me to stay up late on the east coast to watch the team play only to go to bed with a dose of sad reality.
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We’re just a trade away from those problems going away, Buba. That’s what we have to hold onto in the meantime. If we could add Turner, Hield, and Rozier, we would be able to move Walker, Beverley, and Reaves to strengthen our bench and depth. Pelinka has to make a move now because the team as is does not have shooting to win. If we play 20 games with this roster, we’ll end up 5-15 and 10 games under .500. Not coming back from that so Rob needs to move and move right now.
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5-15 sounds about right. Still don’t think they’ll make a move because they think they’re still in charge of this process. You don’t seem to believe in the amount of pride and elitism that exists in the Lakers Brain trust. Watch any interview with Jeannie from the last 3 months. At every opportunity she expresses surprise and annoyance that the fanbase would question any of the moves made in the last three years.
Watching winning time, seeing how much Dr. Buss leveraged himself to get the dream off the ground (yes, I know it’s dramatized but built on the bones of truth) makes me wonder how far from that path the Lakers have strayed since Dr. Buss passed away. No, they may not have been annual luxury tax payers…because the current system didn’t exist.
Everyone, Rob, Jeannie, her little cabal, has reacted so incredibly poorly to winning. They believed they were the ones responsible and couldn’t fathom that luck or the situation surrounding that banner had anything to do with it. The night we won, go back and listen to our podcast. I bring up “no travel, film room style environment which benefitted Vogel” and everyone agrees. Because that is exactly why we won, that and AD played like he never has and never will again.
This is what comes of hubris. This is the price paid for deconstructing a winner, piece by piece, in the name of meaningless and directionless tweaks. You had enough scoring and the potential for an elite defense…what more needed to be changed? No, the correct answer is not “another volume three point shooter” the correct answer is maneuvering to be in a position to replace LeBron James with another player of similar ilk and bent.
That idea is now gone, we’re just trying to make the Titanic look like a day cruise around the bay while it sinks beneath our feet. There will be no contending this season, not even close. We’ll be lucky to make the playin, just like last season. That’s if we do or don’t trade Russ for any combination of players mentioned to date.
Better to let it burn. Better to suffer more now than agonize in mediocrity for 3 or 4 or more years. That is the choice now. It’s not “we’re a player away from being really good!” It is “we’re screwed for years if we get this wrong now and we might be screwed for years no matter which way we go”. One is just fewer years of being screwed.
Like Kobe’s twilight it will be bittersweet. Milestone, historic records broken in losing games during a losing season going nowhere at all. Sound and fury signifying nothing.
In for a penny, in for a pound, though. I’ll be rooting to be wrong each and every single game. Just don’t expect to be is all.
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Really before then. It ain’t like Brady jock riders are complaining about the pieces around him. Guys like him and Bubble King made their bones by elevating mediocre or worse rosters around them. Thinking they can do this in year 20 and beyond is a fatally flawed argument. They need to be a complimentary piece at this phase of their careers, not “the man.” Certainly not taking the man’s salary slot.
So while their general performance isn’t notably different, the results certainly are. I don’t understand how longtime sports fans can’t be hyper aware that that little extra these guys used to have is the difference between a championship contender and a scrub team. Thinking that adding a middling piece here or there will make a massive difference is either blind fandom, self delusion, or just willful ignorance. So while there are certainly some out there I can chalk up to a stupid opinion by a useful idiot, but I know Tom’s smarter than that.
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That LeBron deal is about one thing: having a Laker jersey on the player who holds the all time points record. Managing the brand better than the team and it shows in every other facet. I’m curious how they start to approach an AD extension now, he’s obviously a beta player, never going to be ‘that dude’. He was smart to take the offer out of the Bubble, I’m remembering the lively discussions about his options, but now after more seasons hurt than anything else I’ll be surprised (but not floored) if they offer him max money.
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No different than the Kobe limp away tour. She’s so obsessed with looking “pro player” and “honoring the legends” that it’s only proving counter productive. Lebron was under contract and could’ve secured the scoring title and then been free to go play 2nd or 3rd banana on a contender. Instead he’ll be stuck on a cellar dweller with no honest options to actually contend while overpaying for a past you never even got to benefit from.
Honestly, dude has too much going on to really be an alpha any more. His family, business interests, desire to own a team, past success – hey I get it, it’d probably be more than enough for anyone.
As the owners of the team though, the Buss fam needs to do better or sell. This is an embarrassment. While they may have a down year from time to time, being completely irrelevant mostly due to your own ineptitude is unacceptable.
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LakerTom wrote a new post
One of only three winless teams in the NBA along with the Sacramento Kings and Orlando Magic, the Los Angeles Lakers will see what life without Russell Westbrook might be like as they play the Denver Nuggets tonight.
Could addition by subtraction be enough for the Lakers to steal their first win of the season tonight in Denver? The 2–2 Nuggets were blown out by the surprising undefeated Portland Trail Blazers 135–110 Monday night. After blowing an 8-point lead after Darvin Ham put Russell Westbrook back in the game with 4:42 left in the game against those same Trail Blazers, the Lakers will get a chance to play tonight without the mercurial point guard.
The Russell Westbrook situation has put extreme pressure on everybody in the Lakers’ organization, especially rookie head coach Darvin Ham, whose decision Sunday to reinsert Westbrook into the game cost L.A. the win. While the Lakers players as a team have remained supportive of Westbrook considering the situation, they’re also probably looking forward to the opportunity to show what they can do sans the drama surrounding Russ.
Besides being an opportunity to see what the team can do without Russ, we’ll also find out who’s going to replace Westbrook in the starting lineup as it appears inevitable Russ will be coming off the bench going forward. James, Davis, Beverley, and Walker will start so the only question is who will replace Westbrook? Best guess is Beverley and Walker start at the one and two with Juan Toscano-Anderson or Troy Brown Jr. at the three.
The Nuggets have started the season slowly. Both Jokic and Mitchell had subpar games against the Blazers and Porter Jr. will be out due to injury tonight. If the Lakers can continue to play elite defense, they could win.
Of course, the big question then is whether winning will only encourage Rob Pelinka and the Lakers’ front office to stick by their current plan to wait to trade Russ until after their first 20 games or the end of November.Realistically, if the Lakers can play great defense and pull of a surprise win in Denver tonight with this roster, Rob Pelinka should take that as a sign this team can be a legitimate championship contender with the right trade.
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This is an opportunity to test the addition by subtraction theory. I think the rest of the team is going to psyched at the chance to play without Westbrook and his baggage affecting everybody. Freedom to make a statement and WIN a game. Tonight!
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3 hours and 12 minutes ago: “As they should. Team should always come first. I’m sure all of the players wish Russ well despite everything, which says a lot about their character as men and teammates.”
Present: “This is an opportunity to test the addition by subtraction theory. I think the rest of the team is going to psyched at the chance to play without Westbrook and his baggage affecting everybody. Freedom to make a statement and WIN a game. ”
So…which one is it? Is the team super-stoked to be playing without Russ? Or are they rallying around their brother, as they should, in the face of a media shit storm? Hard to see it both ways, honestly…
You got SOOOOOOOOME insider info there, LT.
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Yup! Also I blame Russ for the high gas prices last summer and NFT market crashing 6 minutes ago…nevermind…it’s back up! Thanks LeBron!
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Per Shams Charania, the Los Angeles Lakers have targeted four players for whom they are interested in trading: the Indiana Pacers’ Myles Turner and Buddy Hield, the Spurs’ Jason Richardson, and the Hornets’ Terry Rozier.
The winless Lakers are shooting a historically poor percentage from the field and from deep, losing their first three games despite LeBron James and Anthony Davis playing well and the defense ranking 5th in the league. They desperately need a legit starting center who can stretch the floor and protect the rim, a proven high percentage, high volume 3-point shooter defenses cannot ignore, and quality forwards to backup James and Davis.
Trading Westbrook and draft capital is the only way the Lakers can add front court size and 3-point shooting. Here’s a trade that brings the Lakers three of the four players for whom they’re most interested in trading.
Three-Team Trade Between Lakers, Pacers, and Hornets
The above three-team trade essentially gives the Los Angeles Lakers three brand new starters in Myles Turner, Terry Rozier, and Buddy Hield to go with their two current superstars LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
This three-team trade is essentially two trades rolled into one. In the first trade, the Lakers trade Russell Westbrook and 2027 and 2029 unprotected first round picks to the Indiana Pacers for Myles Turner and Buddy Hield. In the second trade, the Lakers trade guards Patrick Beverley and Kendrick Nunn to the Charlotte Hornets for Terry Rozier. Overall, the Lakers traded three guards for a new starting point guard, shooting guard, and center.
The trade is essentially a win-win-win trade. The Lakers get three new starters for Westbrook who are young enough to help the team make sure their 2027 and 2029 unprotected picks don’t turn out to be worth much.
The Pacers, who are tanking, get the Lakers two potential blockbuster post-LeBron unprotected picks as well as helping their tank. The Hornets, who should also tank, get out of Rozier’s 4-year deal with expiring contracts.It’s not often that a three-team trade is a win for everybody but this could be the exception. It’s the deal the Lakers should be focused on making as it gives them the best chance to compete for a ring now and in the future.
Lakers’ Depth Chart After Three-Team Trade
Terry Rozier, 28-year old point guard, 6′ 1″, 190 lbs
19.3/4.3/4.5 shooting 44.4%/37.4%/85.2% on 16.0/8.1/2.4 shotsBuddy Hield, 29-year old shooting guard, 6′ 4″, 220 lbs
15.6/4.4/2.8 shooting 40.6%/36.6%/87.4% on 13.6/8.8/1.6 shotsMyles Turner, 26 -year old center, 6′ 11″, 250 lbs
12.6/6.5/1.0 shooting 50.9%/33.3%/75.2% on 9.4/4.4/2.5 shotsThe Lakers need a Westbrook trade that would elevate them to become legitimate championship contenders. Adding Myles Turner, Buddy Hield, and Terry Rozier would clearly elevate the Lakers roster to a top-6 team.
The addition of Myles Turner would give the Lakers the legitimate starting center who can both stretch the floor and protect the rim, both important skillsets that the Lakers need from the center position in Ham’s schemes. The addition of Buddy Hield and Terry Rozier would give the Lakers two tested and proven dead-eye high-volume, high-percentage 3-point shooters who made over three and took over eight threes per game last season.
Turner, Hield, and Rozier made 7.5 of the 21.0 threes taken per game last season for an acceptable 35.7%. Westbrook, Nunn (2 years ago), and Beverley made just 3.5 of the 14.1 threes taken per game for a low 24.8%. The Lakers essentially traded Russ and two picks for three starters who transform their starting lineup by allowing LeBron and AD to play down a position and surrounding them with three quality 3-point shooters.
By adding Myles Turner, Buddy Hield, and Terry Rozier, the Lakers should add at least six more wins, raising their projected win total from the current forty-four wins to the over fifty wins needed to be a top-6 team.
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Lakers reportedly interested in four players: Turner, Hield, Richardson, and Rozier. This trade brings the Lakers three of those four players, who become the three starters around LeBron James and Anthony Davis. Now roster is balanced.
PG: Terry Rozier / Dennis Schroeder / Max Christie
SG: Buddy Hield / Lonnie Walker IV / Austin Reaves
SF: LeBron James / Troy Brown Jr / Matt Ryan
PF: Anthony Davis / Juan Toscano-Anderson / Wenyen Gabriel
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Three-Team Trade Between Lakers, Pacers, and Hornets
The above three-team trade essentially gives the Los Angeles Lakers three brand new starters in Myles Turner, Terry Rozier, and Buddy Hield to go with their two LeBron James and Anthony Davis.https://t.co/j8B7rvuLKq pic.twitter.com/nVh4VtPr7X
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) October 25, 2022
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Lakers’ Depth Chart After Three-Team Trade
The Lakers need a Westbrook trade that would elevate them to become legitimate championship contenders. Adding Myles Turner, Buddy Hield, and Terry Rozier would clearly elevate the Lakers roster to a top-6 team.https://t.co/j8B7rvMUYy pic.twitter.com/FTmCC22t2R
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) October 25, 2022
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3 games in and it’s apparent that 2 middling scrubs won’t be enough to make a difference so now they’re trying to pull off the dreaded multi-team trade. Good luck dummies.
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After watching the Jazz and Lakers play, I have now moved the Jazz trade ahead of the Pacers trade, provided Lauri Markkanen is included. In fact, I love how Markkanen, Olynyk, Clarkson, and Vanderbilt fit so well into the Lakers’ need for size and shooting.
Being able to get a third first round pick back to sweeten the trade for Terry Rozier completes an extreme makeover where we upgrade our starting lineup and bench. We get five new players to create a dynamite 10-man rotation:
PG: Terry Rozier – Dennis Schroeder
SG: Lonnie Walker IV – Jordan Clarkson
SF: LeBron James – Troy Brown Jr
PF: Lauri Markkanen – Jarred Vanderbilt
CE: Anthony Davis – Kelly Olynyk