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There’s only one reason the Los Angeles Lakers do not want to trade their 2027 and 2029 first round draft picks. They’re hoping to use those picks to trade for a third superstar like Bradley Beal or Zach LaVine next summer.
When you sift through the conflicting rumors, it’s obvious the one thing that has kept the Lakers from making a trade in the past and is keeping them from making a trade today is their fixation on a third superstar.
The latest reports suggest the Lakers now plan to save their two tradeable first round picks and use them in a blockbuster, 3-pick trade next summer for a third superstar like Bradley Beal, Zach LaVine, or Kyrie Irving.That means the Lakers will likely hold onto their chips as long as possible and wait until the February 9 trade deadline before doing anything to help the current roster and won’t include their 2027 or 2029 pick in any trades.
In many ways, the Lakers are playing a very dangerous game that could easily backfire and end up costing them their future with LeBron James and Anthony Davis and their alliance with Rich Paul and Klutch Sports.Let’s take a closer look at three questions the Lakers need to address to make sure their pursuit of a third superstar won’t doom the current season, cost them their two superstars, and put the future of the franchise at risk.
Should Lakers Even Pursue a Third Superstar?
The Russell Westbrook experiment should have showed the Lakers signing or trading for a third superstar makes it hard to build a quality roster since all you are able to afford are players earning the league minimum salary.
So even if the Lakers were able to trade for Zach LaVine, who would be a better fit because he’s young, talented, can shoot the three, and is repped by Rich Paul and Klutch Sports, there’s more than just fit to consider.
The NBA has always been a superstars’ league and the Lakers’ legacy is filled with legends but the purple and gold have won more rings with just two superstars rather than three, including the last six championships.There’s a reason why three Kobe and Shaq, two Kobe and Pau, and one LeBron and AD two-superstar teams won the Lakers’ last six titles: they surrounded their two superstars with deep, talented, versatile benches.
That doesn’t mean you can’t win NBA championships with three superstars. The Lakers won five championships with Magic, Worthy, and Kareem and the Warriors won four championships with Curry, Thompson, and Green.But the third superstar option is not the best for the Lakers and LeBron and AD. The smarter move would be to upgrade the other three starters, which would push the current starters to the bench and improve the rotation.
How Do Lakers Keep LeBron and AD Happy?
The Lakers biggest concern if the Lakers decide not to trade the picks is what to say to LeBron James, whom they promised to do everything they could, including trading picks, to give him a chance to win a ring at 38?
Considering LeBron’s and Anthony’s recent comments, there’s no question that there appears to be a split between the Lakers’ front office and their two Klutch Sports superstars on the team’s prospects for this season.
Right now, the 15–21 Lakers are just 1 loss from the Play-In Tournament and just 4 losses from a guaranteed playoff spot and the news on Anthony Davis’ foot injury is promising with a possible mid to late January return.The Lakers need to somehow get their record back up to .500 over the first half of January to still be in position to make the playoffs if the front office were to make a blockbuster trade before the February 9 trade deadline.
If they can do that, it’s hard to see the Lakers throwing away a season where 38-year old LeBron James is dominating and 29-year old Anthony Davis is playing like the league’s MVP and best player on the planet.While the Lakers would like to keep their picks and use them in a mega trade package next summer for a third superstar, their smartest move would still be to trade the picks at the deadline to win this season.
How Does This Affect Lakers’ Superstar Legacy?
The Lakers have carefully cultivated an image as the franchise for whom superstars like Kobe and LeBron want to play and retire. Breaking promises to LeBron and tanking this season could severely damage that image.
That’s why the Los Angeles Lakers are more likely to give in to the pressure from LeBron James, Anthony Davis, and Rich Paul of Klutch Sports and agree to trade the picks to give LeBron and AD a chance to win this season.
The alternative, which is holding onto the picks, could easily end up with LeBron James and Anthony Davis requesting a trade from the Lakers and the long-term alliance between the Lakers and Klutch Sports dissolving.You have to believe that Rich Paul and Rob Pelinka have had some heated discussions about the recent news that the Lakers may decide to keep their two draft picks for a blockbuster trade for a third superstar next summer.
Frankly, it’s hard to believe the Lakers would risk their relationship with their superstars and throw away a chances of winning a championship despite how great James and Davis have played when they were healthy.In the end, the Lakers are going to have to decide whether they still want the purple and gold to be where the league’s greatest stars want to play and retire. If so, they need to keep their two superstars James and Davis happy.
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I could see a small trade being made involving Bev & None…err…I mean Nunn but not including those picks
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It would be a total disaster. Beal is a 25 mil player making Steph Curry money 47 mil. Yikes. LaVine is similar. And neither fills our greatest needs. It would doom us with no money to fill out a quality supporting roster. Big pass.
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Russ pretty much showed that adding a third superstar makes it impossible to build out a deep, versatile, talented roster. Lakers need to focus on upgrading their other starters. That will have bigger impact than 3rd star.
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Russ hasn’t been a superstar for a long fricken time. The boneheaded plays, total lack of decision making ability, and non-existent jumper makes him a mid-tier NBA player. Getting a real superstar would be another story. Lavine, Beal, and other dudes in that category – barely all-stars making superstar money, would be almost as bad.
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I was hoping for something like that, too, but have come round to wondering who even wants them other than for salary dumping? Neither is playing very well. &18 mil combined is a decent player. They’re not worth a decent player without the picks. Maaaaaaybe Jae Crodwer but CP3 ain’t gonna be happy about it lol. Although that’s probably as overblown as Russ’s beef was.
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Here’s the problem. There is nothing to be gained by another team trading their expiring contracts for our expiring contracts. That means the only trades Russ, Bev, Nunn, or Jones will traded would be to get out of multi-year contracts. Problem is Lakers don’t want to take back contracts as that reduces future cap space. That’s why no trades. Fools gold cap space and draft picks that will be traded by Lakers at some point, not ever used.
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Oh. You mean all the reasons you’ve been dumping on for the last year and change? Filed under “Yeah dude I know”
Now I do think you’re not being imaginative about this summer and what can be done with that cap space but I agree it’s not going to be a traditional team-building exercise.
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Why bother with these posts? Won’t be a trade no matter how many wishes upon a star you post here. Basically farting in the wind and following the smell.
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The only shame this season is Rob probably won’t be fired for all this, they just extended him so it feels impossible that will happen. Frank took the fall last season, LeBron will waste a season, again, so is basically the fall guy now and that milk sop will show up to work for another season if not the rest of his deal. That’s the thing bumming me out more than anything. I honestly like watching this team compete as hard as they are, a lot better than the No-show Lakers last season. They’re about as likely to succeed most nights but I enjoy the effort and hustle.
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LakerTom wrote a new post
Jerry Buss understood championships were the key to the Lakers’ success. Sadly, his daughter seems to have forgotten that as her unwillingness to pay big luxury taxes threatens to turn the Lakers into second tier competitors.
After two decades with the New York Knicks or Los Angeles Lakers being the NBA’s most valuable franchises, the Golden State Warriors parlayed four titles in last eight years to take over as the league’s most valuable franchise.
Per Forbes, the Golden State Warriors are worth $7.6 billion followed by New York Knicks at $6.6 billion, Los Angeles Lakers at $6.4 billion, and Chicago Bulls at $4.1 billion. Median NBA franchise value is $2.4 billion.What fueled the Warriors’ rise to the league’s most valuable franchise was it’s commitment to build the best roster money could buy regardless of the astronomical luxury taxes that would accompany this kind of imperative.
Worth just $1.3 billion when they won their first title in 2015 followed by second and third titles in 2017 and 2018, the Warriors proved Dr. Buss formula still works as they quintupled their value over the last eight years.While there’s hope the mega luxury taxes issue will be somehow resolved in the next CBA, the truth is the money raised from the luxury taxes has now become a valued source of revenue for the rest of the NBA teams.
Eliminating exorbitant luxury taxes could be difficult to do when so many NBA teams either are either willing to pay the luxury tax toll or totally willing to accept their share of the taxes as a bonus revenue sharing.Unless Jeanie Buss and her family are willing to pay the exorbitant luxury tax toll that’s now required to compete for a championship in today’s NBA, the Los Angeles Lakers will suddenly become second tier competitors.
How Three Billionaire Team Owners Have Raised the Bar
What’s happened is three teams with billionaire owners — Warriors, Nets, and Clippers — have raised the bar of what it takes to legitimately compete for a championship in today’s NBA to include unlimited luxury taxes.
Last season, the Warriors paid a record $170 million in luxury taxes while the Nets paid $98 million, the Clippers $83 million, the Bucks $54 million, the Lakers $45 million, the Jazz $118 million, and the 76ers $14 million.
This year, Warriors will pay $170 million, Clippers $145 million, Nets $108 million, Bucks at $70 million, Celtics $65 million, Lakers $41 million, Suns $35 million, Mavs $34 million, Nuggets $17 million, and 76ers $2 million.The problem is the Buss family does not have the resources to compete with mega billionaire owners like the Clippers’ Steve Balmer (Microsoft), the Nets’ Joe Tsai (Alibaba), or the Warriors Joe Lacob (Kleiner-Perkins).
While the six Buss children own 2/3 of the Los Angeles Lakers, they do not have outside sources of income like Balmer, Tsai, or Lacob and must live off the revenue stream they receive from the Lakers operating profits.Luxury taxes are a major issue. That’s why the front office did not match salaries and keep valuable role player Alex Caruso last season. It’s why the Lakers will not take back more salaries in any trade than they send out.
It’s a position that’s already relegated the Lakers to second tier status as a competitor. They’re willing to spend $40-50 million in luxury taxes but won’t pony up the $100–170 million paid by the Dubs, Nets, and Clippers.The Lakers must remember championships created their franchise value. If mega luxury taxes are now required to compete for championships, then the Lakers need to accept that as part of the cost of doing business.
How Lakers Became Second Tier Competitor
The above chart shows ten NBA teams are projected to pay $653 million in luxury taxes for the current season. That’s $65 million in taxes per team which will result in a bonus of $32.5 million for each of the other 20 teams.
Luxury taxes will likely be a major point of contention when it comes to the league and the players negotiating a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. There will be the usual hard push by the league for some form of hard cap.
In the end, it’s going to be hard to give up a system where 10 teams pay $65 million each in luxury taxes, which would then be split between the 20 non-tax paying teams, who would get $32.5 million each in profit sharing.The ten tax paying teams can easily be broken down into four tiers. Tier 1 is the teams willing to spend over $100 million in luxury taxes and includes the Golden State Warriors, Los Angeles Clippers, and Brooklyn Nets.
Tier 2 is the teams willing to spend $40–100 million in luxury taxes and includes the Milwaukee Bucks, the Boston Celtics, and the Los Angeles Lakers. Tier 3 is for teams willing to spend $0–40 million in luxury taxes.Right now, the Lakers are not willing to accept trades that raise their total annual salaries because that would also mean increased luxury taxes. L.A paid $45 million last season and is projected to pay $41 million this season. Unless the Lakers are willing to match the luxury taxes that the Warriors, Clippers, and Nets are willing to pay, there is no way they are going to be able to remain competitive being outspent by $60-$130 million per year.
There’s no question that the explosive rise in luxury taxes has changed the competitive landscape in the NBA. As a result, the Lakers’ unwillingness to pay exorbitant luxury taxes has made them second tier competitors.
How Being Second Tier Competitor Will Affect Lakers
After the long dark struggles due to Covid, the NBA is now on the verge of entering another golden age where team revenues, salary caps, franchise values, and superstar salaries soar to never before imagined highs.
Acquiring and developing young players who have Bird rights is a critical part of intelligent roster construction. The NBA has a ‘soft’ cap, which means teams can go over the cap to re-sign players with Bird rights.
The Golden State Warriors, Los Angeles Clippers, and Brooklyn Nets have spent major sums of money using Bird rights to exceed the salary cap and paying luxury taxes to lock up valuable players to long-term contracts.The Lakers are already worried that they may not be able to afford to re-sign sophomore sensation Austin Reaves, who’s clearly the third best player on this roster and will probably earn a bigger payday than Alex Caruso.
Make no mistake, re-signing Austin Reaves or trading for and re-signing a player like Myles Turner will not only increase the Lakers’ annual salaries but also increase the luxury taxes due because of the higher salaries.The Lakers also want to avoid the repeater tax, which doubles the luxury taxes for any team that has been a taxpayer three out of any four years. Lakers will have paid taxes for three straight years after this season.
That means there could be great pressure on the Lakers’ front office from the Buss family to avoid paying taxes this season and next so that the team would not be a repeat offender and have future luxury taxes doubled.Jerry Buss always understood that you had to spend money to make money. The Lakers need to understand that exorbitant luxury taxes are just the latest toll teams need to pay today to compete for an NBA championship.
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Cheapness. Been saying it for awhile now and honestly it was Gerald who first brought up the fact that the Buss fam just doesn’t want to compete at the billionaire level. The luxury tax has thwarted the Lakers ambitions from an ownership perspective. Great post Tom.
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Thanks, Jamie.
The reality is the franchise’s failure to pay big luxury taxes puts a ceiling on how good the Lakers can be compared to the Warriors, Clippers, and Nets. Doesn’t mean we can’t win another championship but that the odds of us doing so are no longer among the top tier. Days of Celtics and Lakers racking up 4 or 5 rings every decade are long gone. This is not Dr. Buss’ NBA.
We’re now second tier because of Jeanie and her minions who don’t understand that you have to spend money to make money. In 8 years, the Warriors won 4 rings and raised their franchise value from $1.3B to $6.7B. Lakers need to match those three teams and get back to being a Tier 1 competitor.
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They’ll trot out the line “Dr. Buss didn’t pay taxes” line but that was a wholly different era.
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If I’m to believe these 2 most recent TV series then Dr Buss was a master at pretending that he had a boatload money. Truth seems to be that we have never been on the same level financially as the truly wealthy owners. That’s how it is when you only have the 1 revenue stream. The family won’t sell the team no matter what because their entire identity & legacy (& bank account) is tied to being the owners of the Lakers. So they will never venture too far into the tax
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The surest way for the Lakers to become a second tier competitor is for them to refuse to pay the same level of luxury taxes as the Warriors, Clippers, and Nets are willing to pay. It’s a cheap cop out to say they cannot compete with billionaires. The truth is they have to compete with them or fall behind.
The Busses need to understand that winning championships is what establishes the primary value of their franchise. They still need to win and the way to do that is go all-in to compete. Like the Warriors, they need to bet on winning, which is what Dr. Buss did to buy the Lakers and keep them winning.
The game has changed. This is not Dr. Buss’ NBA any more. Lakers have the cash flow and revenue to pay those luxury taxes and they will get it back as their franchise value soars again. Busses really only have one choice: sell the team or invest in it. The only other option, which Jeanie seems to have chosen, is to commit the franchise to a slow death as a second tier competitor.
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Just remember.. Donald Sterling always made money on the Clippers. The flaw in your logic Is believing that winning titles is the primary goal of this ownership. It’s not necessarily the case and the proof is in their recent behavior. It speaks volumes.
Also..the valuation of the franchise only becomes real money once you sell the team; which ain’t gonna happen.
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I understand what you’re saying but the Busses are taking the wrong approach. How much the franchise value appreciates will depend on how well the league does and the Lakers do.
Even if LAL struggles, the franchise value will go up but not as much as other teams. If the team wins, it will go up more than other teams. The Warriors showed the Lakers how to win and increase franchise value. It’s not by allowing players like Caruso to leave due to luxury taxes.
Invest in the team by paying luxury taxes and understand that winning will bring financial rewards in terms of franchise value. That’s how you win in today’s NBA. Sooner the Busses learn this, the better. It’s not rocket science.
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Looking at payroll strictly through the lens of who’s paying how much, then sure. But it ain’t like the Lakers aren’t paying well into the tax. If there were players worth paying to really propel them into contention, they would have. I think everyone brings up Caruso, but I mostly remember the poor shooting, bonehead plays, and blown layups. Letting him go is hardly the tragedy everyone makes it out to be. How’s his current team doing? The Russ deal was just the mother of self-inflicted wounds.
What I do think Dr Buss would’ve fought harder against was a CBA limiting the Lakers market advantages. Jeannie lacked the backbone to make that happen. Hell, they couldn’t even get an amnesty clause into the last agreement.
They made some awful personnel decisions, too many to name really. Formed an unholy alliance with an agency concerned with plenty other things than winning themselves. Will likely fail to make the playoffs again. Even with all that, they really don’t have to worry about some other clubs leapfrogging their valuation any time soon.
The Knicks haven’t won squat in 50 years, have arguably the worst ownership, and simply by the virtue of their large market, have the most valuable franchise in the league. So unless LA somehow contracts, the valuation will be just fine.
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I’m not worried about other teams leapfrogging our valuation. I’m worried about the Warriors, Clippers, and Nets outspending us in salaries and luxury taxes every season, making us a second tier competitor who will struggle to keep up when it comes to wining championships.
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Dude the Lakers will always be worth a couple billion more than most teams for one easy to spot reason: they’re in LA. Same reason LeBron will put up with this crap management. The other is the history the Buss family in particular has been a part of. They’ll be in the mix one way or the other. Now, for the right price would they cede control of the team? That’s a worthier debate. Or would they at least empower a GM to really build the team and allow for some amount of tax to be paid. As we’ve seen with specifically the Warriors this season just throwing money at something guarantees nothing. They just need to make better choices.
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Warriors caught lightning in a bottle, got Steph at a discount early, drafted brilliantly right before a massive cap spike, and were able to sign a top-2 in the league player. Clipps and Nets have spent their way to what exactly? And even still, they’re only outspending the Lakers because they had guys worth re-signing. Who haven’t the Lakers re-signed besides sad sack Caruso?
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This is one of the reasons why I feel like that Bubble title was one of the worst things that could have happened in Rob’s first season and for the franchise in general. Everyone started buying all their positive press and ignoring critique, however valid or astute. I have a hard time seeing the Buss Family not being a part of the Lakers in the future. One thing to watch is when/if the NBA begins to allow big foreign money in like FIFA and soccer in general have. That’ll even the playing field money wise and necessitate a new CBA, likely resulting in a hard cap.
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I’ll still take it but it did give Rob credibility with Jeanie that could prove to be costly.
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Hard cap making it easier to get rid of underperforming contracts? Let’s do it!
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Nope, not for the Lakers. Any time you have a handful of FA’s looking to form a superteam, all LA has to do is cut their dead weight to make room. That’s why the podunks never allow that to happen.
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Another thing about these valuations..nobody’s taking into account that the Dubs, Knicks, Bulls, and (very soon) Cipps own their arenas. The Lakers will never have that additional revenue stream as long as the Buss family owns the team..simply can’t afford it. So they also miss out on the naming rights fees (which Dr Buss was one of the 1st to implement back in the day)
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We added 11 mil when traded for Russ. The only other avenue for adding salary was if would have signed Alex for the 8 mil he wanted. The salary cap prevented us from even keeping Monk. We only had 6 mil to offer. If we use our space this summer the only guys we can go over with are Austin with birds rights and Gabriel and Nunn with early bird rights. We really can’t spend more because of the cap. Besides it is not what we have spent that got us into this mess. It was bad trades and poor asset management that did it.
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The Lakers unwillingness to take back salary in trades has limited their possible return. Teams can take back 125% of what they send out. It’s an extra rotation player in a trade. Lakers don’t want to raise payroll or taxes, which is handicapping them vs. the Warriors, Clippers, and Nets.
Lakers also continue to try and create cap space for free agents, which is part of their motivation not to trade the picks. They want to have three picks this summer so they can hopefully put together a trade for a third superstar.
The other problem the Lakers are going to have this summer is going to be matching contracts. Lakers may be forced to look for S&T deals. Otherwise, if they let Russ’ and everybody else’s contracts expire, they will have no tradeable contracts but LeBron and AD.
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You’re right about the arena being another differentiator in competitiveness in today’s NBA, Mongo. The Lakers still have plenty of natural advantages that help them but poor management has left multiple rings on the court imo. They still need to invest in winning, which means luxury taxes today, because winning will only accelerate their value while losing will only limit it.
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LakerTom wrote a new post
The Lakers have only won two of the seven games they’ve played since Anthony Davis injured his foot against Denver on December 16, leaving them at 14–21 with 10 games before AD’s earliest possible return.
Frankly, unless the Lakers immediately make a move to add desperately needed size, shooting, and defense in the front court, there is little chance they’ll be close enough at the trade deadline to still make the playoffs.
The numbers are daunting. The Lakers are 7 games under .500 now and need to be .500 by the deadline to have enough time to make the playoffs, which means winning at least 14 of the 20 games before February 9th.There are two moves the Lakers could make right now to land a starting quality center to fill in and backup AD when he returns and new starting and backup 3&D wings to upsize and upgrade the small forward position.
The cost for making these moves would include the expiring contracts of Patrick Beverley, Kendrick Nunn, and Damian Jones plus the Lakers 2027 first round pick, with protection if the pick ends being a top-10 pick.By making these two trades, the Lakers should be able to win enough games to survive the loss of Anthony Davis and keep their hopes of winning their 18th NBA championship alive while still building for the future.
1. Trade for Mo Bamba and Terrence Ross
While Thomas Bryant has done a good job filling in for AD offensively, the Lakers desperately need an immediate trade for size and defense at center and small forward positions if they hope to survive until the trade deadline.
Trading for Mo Bamba and Terrence Ross would give the Lakers two young legitimate starter quality players who can shoot the three and defend their positions to help the team whether the storm until Anthony Davis returns.
Most importantly, the Magic trade would only cost the Lakers three players in Beverley, Nunn, and Jones who had not lived up to expectations and were not needed and a first round draft pick but with top-10 protections.Mo Bamba and Terrence Ross add size, shooting, and defense. The 24-year old, 7′ 0″, 230 lbs Bamba is shooting 38.7% on 3.0 3PA per game. He is also blocking 1.0 shots and making 0.3 steals in just 19.0 minutes per game.
The 31-year old, 6′ 6″, 206 lbs. Ross has split his time between shooting guard and small forward and is shooting 34.9% on 4.0 3PA per game while playing solid team defense. Lakers are suddenly bigger and better.By trading for Mo Bamba and Terrence Ross, the Lakers dramatically upgrade their starting lineup with size, shooting, and defense to help the team survive until Anthony Davis is returns from his foot injury.
Mo Bamba, CE, 24 years old, 7′ 0″ 231 lbs
8.1/5.4/1.0/1.0/0.3 on 5.9/3.0/1.5 shots for 50.0%/38.4%/68.2%Terrence Ross, SF, 31 years old, 6′ 6″ 206 lbs
8.0/2.0/1.3 on 7.5/4.0/0.5 shots for 41.7%/34.9%/70.6%
2. Trade for Cam Reddish
The second trade the Lakers should make is to trade Lonnie Walker IV, whom the Lakers will likely lose to free agency because they do not have his Bird rights, for Cam Reddish, who fortunately has his Bird rights.
The trade is a win for both the Knicks and the Lakers. The Lakers get a 23-year old 3&D wing who was a lottery pick and shows promise both as a 3-point shooter and as a wing defender. The Lakers get size and defense.
The Knicks get a young shooting guard enjoying a breakout season, whom they can extend after trading for him or sign with cap space this summer. Either way, the Knicks get a rising young star for a player they didn’t want.In many ways, Reddish would likely start as the backup small forward behind veteran Terrence Ross. Because Reddish will become a free agent this summer, the Lakers need to extend or re-sign him with Bird rights.
The purpose of this trade is to get rid of a guard who did not have Bird rights and could not be re-signed for a forward with Bird rights who could be re-signed. Lakers choose not to lose Walker for nothing like Monk.Trading Lonnie Walker IV for Cam Reddish is a win-win move for the Lakers and the Knicks. Both teams should be thrilled to get a talented young player who fits their needs and whom they could easily re-sign.
Cam Reddish, SF, 23-years old, 6′ 8″ 217 lbs
8.4/1.6/1.0 on 6.8/2.8/1.7 shots for 44.9%/30.4%/87.9%
3. The Depth Chart
The net impact of the trades is the Lakers trade Walker, Beverley, Nunn, Jones, and their 2027 first round draft pick with top-10 protection for three quality rotation players in Mo Bamba, Terrence Ross, and Cam Reddish.
The two trades not only give the Lakers a starting quality center in Bamba to fill in for the injured Anthony Davis and then back him up when he returns but also starting and backup 3&D wings to play small forward.
Until Davis returns, which hopefully will be in mid-January, Bamba can be the Lakers’ starting center with Ross as the team’s starting small forward. That should be a dramatic upgrade of the starting lineup until AD returns.Once Davis comes back, the Lakers will have the versatility to play Bamba and Davis together in a two-big jumbo lineup or go super small on steroids with AD at the five, James at the four, and Ross or Reddish at the three.
One huge advantage of adding Bamba is the Lakers will be able to stagger his minutes with Anthony Davis so they will have an elite rim protector and shot blocker at center on the court for all 48 minutes of every game.Trading for Bamba, Ross, and Reddish adds critical size, shooting, and defense to the Lakers’ starting lineup and 10-man rotation while only costing expiring contracts and a top-10 protected first round pick.
3. The Trade Deadline
While Mo Bamba, Terrence Ross, and Cam Reddish would be excellent fits for what the Lakers need and quality upgrades to add depth to the roster, none of them fill the Lakers need for a third star to help carry the team.
If trading for Mamba, Ross, and Reddish keeps the season alive, the Lakers must go-all in at the deadline and trade Westbrook and their remaining first round pick to get a needed third star or multiple elite rotation players.
While the Lakers would love to get a chance to trade for a LaVine or Beal, they’d be better off if they were able to trade Westbrook and the 2029 to the Toronto Raptors for a package of VanVleet, Trent, Jr., and Boucher.The trade landscape could dramatically change over the six weeks between today and February 9, 2023. Buyers may suddenly become sellers and players who were thought to be untouchable may become available.
If the Lakers are going to win, they must always be looking to get better and be in perpetual team building mode. Every move just has to fit in a long-term template or formula that balances size, shooting, and defense.Finally, the Lakers need to accept trading Westbrook and the pick will give them a shot at winning a championship and leave them with a better roster than if they kept Russ and used $35 million in cap space to sign free agents.
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1st Move:
Lakers Receive:
-Mo Bamba
-Terrence RossMagic Receive:
-Patrick Beverley
-Kendrick Nunn
-Damian Jones…
2nd Move:
Lakers Receive:
-Cam Reddish}Knicks Receive:
-Lonnie Walker IV-
Seems like low fruit for no fruit. Lol Jeannie needs to go BIG or go HOME!
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Not a chance LT. I think we’ll go 4-6 in the next 10. Just tryin to be real. : (
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1. Trade for Mo Bamba and Terrence Ross
While Thomas Bryant has done a good job filling in for AD offensively, the Lakers need an immediate trade for size and defense at center and small forward positions if they hope to survive until the trade deadline.https://t.co/IkqMVP0MZS pic.twitter.com/vBzxHoLf2A
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) December 30, 2022
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2. Trade for Cam Reddish
The second trade the Lakers should make is to trade Lonnie Walker IV, whom the Lakers will likely lose to free agency because they do not have his Bird rights, for Cam Reddish, who fortunately has his Bird rights.https://t.co/IkqMVP0MZS pic.twitter.com/wCHY0aT5P4
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) December 30, 2022
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This season can’t be saved and it’s silly to give up any real assets to try to do so. We blew the one trade that coulda helped the future by not dealing AD for young talent & picks while he was relatively healthy & playing well at the same time (a rare confluence of space & time since he got here). This thing was lost as soon as we started the season with this ill-fitting uninspiring roster.
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LakerTom wrote a new post
Without Anthony Davis, the Los Angeles Lakers have now lost four straight games and fallen to 13th in the West at 13–20, 3.0 games out of 10th and the Play-In Tournament and 5.0 games out of 6th and guaranteed playoffs.
The good news is the West is wide open, LeBron James is playing dominant basketball, and Anthony Davis appears to have dodged a major injury and could be back on court to resume his MVP/DPOY campaign mid-January.
The bad news is recent reports say the Lakers’ front office is now leaning to not trading either of the team’s two available draft picks unless the deeply flawed team they created can somehow show again they’re worth backing.Enough is enough. It’s one thing to screw up and make a dumb trade for Russell Westbrook, a move that basically locked the Lakers into a financial straight jacket they haven’t been smart or proactive enough to get out of.
But then to claim that now they’re not going to do anything more because they’re afraid of compounding previous mistakes with win-now moves? That’s a totally self-serving and strategically stupid position to take.The solution is just to be smart about what you get back for Westbrook, Beverley, Nunn, Jones, and the two first round draft picks. That should be enough to bring back at least four legitimate starters or rotation players.
Those four players should include a starting and backup 3&D wing to play small forward, a backup rim protecting center to start now and backup AD when he returns, and a bigger 3&D point guard to replace Westbrook.Add those four new players to a six-player nucleus from the current roster of James, Davis, Reaves, Bryant, Schröder, and Christie and you have a stronger and deeper Lakers’ 10-man rotation that could be a contender.
Time for LeBron and AD to Demand Action?
The time has come for LeBron James and Anthony Davis to show Lakers’ owner Jeanie Buss and VPBO Rob Pelinka that it’s the superstars, not the owners or genera managers, who hold the real reins of power in the NBA.
James and Davis need to remind Pelinka and Buss they’ll be free agents at the end of next season and, if the Lakers expect to re-sign them, they need to trade Westbrook and the picks now to give this roster a chance to win.
Failing to take advantage of how wide open the Western Conference is this season and how dominant both James and Davis have been when healthy despite the terribly constructed roster and would be a major mistake.The Lakers’ problem is not that there aren’t legitimate starters or rotation players they could trade for. It’s that there aren’t any ‘superstars’ available to trade for. Pelinka’s great fear of missing a big trade has paralyzed him.
The result has been the easy decision to do nothing as the team loses more games and the hole they’re going to have to dig their way out of gets deeper and deeper. We’ve reached a point where only James and Davis can save us.The front office would argue that James and Davis are the reason why the Lakers are in the situation they are, because they foolishly championed trading for Russell Westbrook and need to accept their share of blame.
While James and Davis do deserve some blame for Westbrook, it’s Rob Pelinka’s job as general manger to make the decision to trade for Russell Westbrook and Jeanie Buss’ job as owner to officially approve the move.In the end, we’re reached the point where nobody but LeBron James and Anthony Davis can save this season. The Lakers superstars need to flex their power and force Rob Pelinka to trade Westbrook and the picks.
Which Trade Targets Are Good Fits?
The Lakers should split their two picks up, using one pick to facilitate a Westbrook trade and the other to facilitate a Beverley, Nunn, and Jones trade. Ideally, the Lakers need to bring back at least four rotation payers.
Those four new Lakers players should include at least two new starters, a bigger 3&D wing to start at small forward and a point guard who can shoot the three, attack the rim, and distribute the ball without turning it over.
Starting small forward candidates include Bojan Bogdanovic, Kyle Kuzma, O.G. Anunoby, Eric Gordon, and DeMar DeRozan. Starting point guard candidates are Terry Rozier, Mike Conley, Kyle Lowry, and Fred VanVleet.The Lakers also need a backup center who can start until Anthony Davis returns and then provide rim protection when AD is not in the game, and a backup 3&D small forward to give them two new defenders with size.
Backup center candidates are Myles Turner, Mo Bamba, Jakob Poeltl, and Kristaps Porzingis. Backup small forward candidates are Cam Reddish, Doug McDermott, Saddiq Bey, Terrence Ross, and Otto Porter, Jr.The key to saving the season is not just making trades but making smart trades. The Lakers must start with the principle they’re not going to give up a first round draft pick for any player(s) who aren’t good long-term fits.
That means only acquiring players who give us size, shooting, and defense and only accepting contracts that represent fair value and can be traded. The right package of players could transform the Lakers into contenders.Team building about the draft, free agency, and trades. The Lakers did as good a job in the draft and free agency as was possible but we’ve always known the Lakers couldn’t build a winning team without trading Russ.
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LeBron James and Anthony Davis are the only two people who can force the Los Angeles Lakers to trade Westbrook and the picks so the Lakers have a chance at winning #17 in a season where AD has taken the torch and LeBron is still dominant and the West is wide open. There has to be heavy pressure being applied by Rich Paul and Klutch not to waste this season.
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I’m still failing to see how a guy on the decline with a contract no one will want any part of, nor a guy who spends half of every season in some state of recovering from an injury have any leverage.
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While LeBron may be on a decline, he is still probably a top-10 player in this league and there are probably a half dozen teams who could win a championship if they were to trade for him this summer with a year left or sign him to a max 1+1 deal the following summer.
In many ways, LeBron is the perfect player to do this. Short-term shots at winning a championship. He could conceivably win another two rings doing this. You can deny his current greatness all you want but LeBron is still a unique talent capable of elevating a team to new heights. That may be diminished some as he cannot just take over games athletically as he did when younger but there’s still a lot of championship basketball left that teams would covet.
Add him to the Suns, Celtics, Warriors, 76ers, Raptors and they’ll have a better shot at winning a ring than the Raptors did when they signed Kawhi for a single season. They’d be lining up for LeBron all around the block.
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If you think Lebron didn’t test the waters before signing his extension, you don’t know him half as well as you think you do. I just don’t think anyone wanted to pay the freight on his decline besides the desperate-to-stay-relevant Lakers.
Your point that he’s can still elevate a team is disproven nightly. Those half dozen contending teams that might benefit from his presence couldn’t offer more than a MLE, which is what he’ll need to do to contend again. In two years he’ll be undeniably washed and could play spot bench minutes. No way for a top-5 all time guy to go out.
His outsized salary makes it pretty much impossible to any team to trade for him and remain in contention. He signed the deal knowing there weren’t any real options to move on to greener pastures and the stupid CBA made it a moot point.
If he really wanted to keep the screws to the Lakers, he could’ve literally taken a dollar less than a 7% raise and he’d still be trade-eligible this year. Why do you think that is? Cuz old dude can read the tea leaves. Plus he’s got his whole “I’ve never asked to be traded” narrative he likes to spew, so I doubt he changes tune on that either. As soon as he took a max salary he possibly could, instead of maybe taking a page out of the Duncan playbook, everyone knew his days of playing for championships was over.
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Starting point guard candidates are Terry Rozier, Mike Conley, Kyle Lowry, and Fred VanVleet. Whom do you prefer?
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Do like Conley’s 5:1 assists-to-turnovers ratio.
And Rozier’s ability to get his own shot any time.
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Backup center candidates are Myles Turner, Mo Bamba, Jakob Poeltl, and Kristaps Porzingis. Whom do you prefer?
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Backup small forward candidates are Cam Reddish, Doug McDermott, Saddiq Bey, Terrence Ross, and Otto Porter, Jr. Whom do you prefer?
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I like Bey a lot. A trade for him and Bogdanovic would still rate very high for me. Start Bojan and have Bey back him up. I actually forgot Bojan on my list of starting small forwards. He should be first.
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1. Anunoby
2. Bogdanovic (I forgot Bojan)
3. Kuzma
4. Oubre, Jr.
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Starting small forward candidates include Bojan Bogdanovic, Kyle Kuzma, O.G. Anunoby, Eric Gordon, and DeMar DeRozan. Whom do you prefer?
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Impressive list of players that click bait posters guess maybe available by the deadline. The list of guys that it’s been reported may have been shopped is much smaller. Gordon a 34 year SG being outplayed by both Walker and Reeves, with asking price of a 1st round pick. Reddish who is being packaged with Fourner, who I wouldn’t take. We have actually talked with the Knicks about them. And Poeltl and McDermott with the Spurs. That’s it everyone else is media speculation at this time. Hard to force a trade when the trades are not yet available.
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The best trade the Los Angeles Lakers could make right now to keep this season alive would be swapping Patrick Beverley, Kendrick Nunn, and Damian Jones to the Orlando Magic for Mo Bamba and Terrence Ross.
Not only would the trade give the Lakers a 3&D wing to start at small forward but also a floor stretching, rim protecting center to replace Anthony Davis in the short term and back him up when he returns.
With Ross starting at small forward and Bamba at center, the Lakers suddenly would add desperately needed size and shooting. The 7′ 0″ Mo Bamba shoots 39.0% while the 6′ 6″ Ross shoots 40.9% from deep.Trading for Bamba and Ross filled both of the Lakers’ primary rotation holes. In fact, there may not be another trade that could net the Lakers a starting small forward and reserve center to fill in and then backup AD.
Why Bamba and Ross?
The Lakers’ plan is to trade Beverley, Nunn, Jones, and a protected first round pick for a player(s) with a combined salary of around $20 million per year who can provide them with needed size, shooting, and defense.
The Lakers have long coveted Indiana Pacers’ center Myles Turner, who is on an expiring $18.0 million contract. Trading for Turner would require L.A. to extend Turner, who will likely demand over $20 million per year.
With Anthony Davis finally established as the Lakers’ starting center, the Lakers are unlikely to be willing to pay Turner $20–25 million per year when they’re already paying Anthony Davis $37.9 million per year.Bamba earns only $10.3 million per year and is locked in a 2-year contract. That means he could fit financially as the Lakers’ backup center and has 2 years left on his contract so does not have to be extended this summer.
Talentwise, Bamba is a probably a poor man’s version of Myles Turner who can stretch the floor with his 3-point shooting and protect the rim with his shot blocking. Ross gives the Lakers a legitimate starting 3&D wing.The alternative to the Bamba and Ross trade with the Magic is a Poeltl and McDermott trade with the Spurs. Like the Magic trade, the Spurs trade also gives the Lakers an affordable starting small forward and backup center.
Poeltl could be the better defender but his poor free throw shooting makes him a late game liability and eliminates the chance he could evolve into a modern stretch center. McDermott is not as good a 3&D wing as Ross.In the end, the best package the Lakers can get for Beverley, Nunn, Jones, and a protected pick is Mo Bamba and Terrence Ross. That trade fills the Lakers top two rotation holes and gives them a chance to make the playoffs.
What’s the Next Step?
The Lakers’ projected depth chart shows that Bamba and Ross are not only excellent fits with Anthony Davis out but also perfect complements once AD returns, giving the Lakers a rim protector for 48 minutes per game.
Moving Austin Reaves to the starting lineup is something Darvin Ham needs to do as soon as possible. Reaves has shown he has the moxie and confidence to hit this threes or attack the paint for floaters or fouls.
Austin is also the only Lakers player besides LeBron James and Anthony Davis to record a positive net rating for the season. LeBron is the Lakers point guard on offense and Reaves is their best perimeter defender.With Mo Bamba starting at center, the Lakers’ starting lineup would measure 6′ 5′, 6′ 4″, 6′ 6″, 6′ 9″ 7′ 0″. Once Anthony Davis returns from injury, the Lakers’ starting lineup would then measure 6′ 5′, 6′ 4″, 6′ 6″, 6′ 9″ 7′ 0″.
The Lakers mat also play both Davis and Bamba at the same time, since Mo can space the floor from beyond the arc. And Coach Ham will likely stagger Anthony’s and Mo’s minutes to always have a rim protector on the court.If the Lakers can fill their holes at starting small forward and backup center, then they will still have Russell Westbrook, Lonnie Walker IV, and their 2029 first round draft pick as available trading chips at the deadline.
Theoretically, the Lakers could still make a second bigger trade with Westbrook and the 2029 first round pick, which could bring back two or three better rotation players than the Lakers currently have.Specific areas the Lakers should be looking to improve by trading Westbrook, Walker IV, and their 2029 pick include starting point guard, size on the wing, and a 20-points per game superstar shooting guard.
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This is best Beverley, Nunn, Jones, and Pick trade we get pull off. It will make a huge difference by giving us desperately needed size at small forward and center until AD gets back.
Don’t see any other small trade that helps as much. Bamba and Ross should dramatically improve our size, shooting, and defense.
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Haha, Dave. Good catch. Man, I’m surprised I only did it once. You and your Terry have a Merry Christmas.
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I would add that one variation of this scenario does have the Lakers keeping Russell Westbrook, which I think is crazy but at this point it’s obvious that with Rob nothing is impossible. Keep the pick and screw this year’s team.
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Sometimes I don’t understand your logic on trades. Bamba averages 8 points, 5.4 boards, 39% from 3 and a block in 28 minutes a game. Thomas averages 10.4 pts 5.4 boards 50% from 3 a 1/2 blocks in 18 minutes. Bamba has played himself to the 2nd unit, that’s part of the reason why he maybe available. He’s not an upgrade. I think it best to hold onto our assets for someone who fill the size on the wing problem. Ross is good but he’s Austin’s size so he’s not real long.
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Forgot to add Thomas is shooting.698 from the field. Bamba .599. The grass is not always greener.
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We’re not going anywhere with Thomas Bryant as the anchor of our second team defense.
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Tom you are the President, Vice President, secretary and sole member of the we hate Thomas Bryant club. I mean literally. You are contrary to The coaches, players and writers around the league. I thought you would be ecstatic with him shooting 50% from 3. Is there a 2nd string centers playing better? Our defense issues started some time ago Tom, long before AD went down. Guys back our tiny guys down and shoot over them and there is little that AD could do, let alone TB. We need longer defenders on the wing. Plain and simple.
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Thomas had 13 boards last night. LeBron had 2. LeBron has been a bigger problem on the defensive end then Thomas’s
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I like Thomas, Michael. I like Lonnie, Michael. I don’t think either can be the starter on a championship team.
You and your family have a Merry Christmas and maybe the Lakers will come to play and give us a win.
Hau’oli Mau Lānui! Michael.
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Lakers keeping Russ, might as well let yourself feel surprise at Rob should that change at some point. The real question for me has switched to “will we sign him again this summer?” and “for how much?”
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I love this trade. Reasonable, feasible and checks just about all the boxes that Rob has created to stop trades. I don’t mind bringing in a bigger player like Mo-B, it’s more about replacing AD when he inevitably goes down than the fit when he’s healthy. Since AD healthy is not the norm.
Ham has shown he doesn’t mind playing two bigs so having Thomas Bryant this season and beyond makes a lot of sense since he can play the 4 or 5. I, myself, don’t understand LT’s disparagement of Thomas B but we can’t assume Rob will keep any Laker not under contract beyond this season, anyhow.
Ross is fine, middle of the road player of which we have many. Doesn’t move the needle much but you won’t get players that will for PatBev and Nunn.
Regarding Russ I’ve come to the conclusion that unless the trade includes an elite playmaker it may end up making us worse. LeBron does not drive to make plays anymore, he’s too concerned with getting hurt. While that may change a little come playoffs it won’t matter if we’re not in the playoffs. Currently we are not. This trade, in and of itself, doesn’t change that. If you trade Russ for a bunch of shooters or a big we’re going to watch teams clog the paint and close out in the shooter all game every game and we’ll lose. Big.
Schroder isn’t good enough, LeBron is legitimately worried about getting hurt on drives, and PatBev (if he’s not traded) is a PG in name only. He doesn’t create offense, he makes OK reads.
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Thanks, Jamie. And Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
I like the trade too as I think it will make us better. We add two players at positions where we desperately need size and shooting and defense. It won’t make us favorites but it should make us a lot better via addition of two players and subtraction of three players. Roster will be bigger, better shooting, and better defensively. It’s not the trade I’d make if I were in charge but it’s a good start considering all the constraints Rob has put on any trade.
What kind of difference can two players make? If they move into the starting lineup, I think they can make a major change. First, we get much better rim protection from Bamba than Bryant and we get Bryant back as our backup center, which is important as he’s been a positive sign. He’s just not a great defender. Bamba is bigger and more athletic and should be a huge improvement. It gives us three centers who can shoot from deep, which is big.
Adding a 6′ 6″ legitimate 3&D wing cannot be minimized. Enough with 6′ 1″ wing stoppers like Beverley or Schroeder. Ross has split his time between shooting guard and small forward and will become the best 3-point shooter on the team. He’ s a good defender and should be a great fit as starting small forward.
The Lakers could get a similar trade from the Spurs for Poeltl and McDermott but Bamba’s ability to shoot the three and make his free throws make the Magic trade a better fit for the Lakers.
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I still see the Lakers unwilling to dump LeBron and AD, which means there will be a trade before the deadline to improve the roster and give the team a chance to win it all this season. Just too big a risk to give up LeBron and AD the way they’re playing. Just need them to get and stay healthy for rest of season. That might be a hard call but it’s the right one imo.
There might also be a compromise where the Lakers trade Russ and 1 pick but keep the second pick. That could be the result of LeBron and AD wanting help but the front office wanting to keep at least one pick. Who knows. We’ll just have to wait and see but a lot will depend on how the Lakers play the next two weeka and how AD’s return looks.