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Finally healthy, the Lakers’ defensive dominance while winning four of their last five games has catapulted them to a 14–9 record tied for fourth in the West and could change how they plan to approach the trade deadline.
With Anthony Davis dominating everywhere, Cam Reddish emerging as the team’s starting defensive stopper, and Jarred Vanderbilt finally returning from injury, the Lakers have suddenly become a defensive juggernaut.
Over the last five games, the Lakers’ defense has posted a league-best 103.1 defensive rating that combined with their 114.6 offensive rating enabled them to generate a +11.5 net rating, which was second best in the league.With backup point guard Gabe Vincent scheduled to return when the Lakers play the Knicks at home on December 18, the Lakers will finally have their full roster healthy for the very first time this entire season.
While D’Angelo Russell has been having an excellent season and is shooting 40.5% on 5.5 attempts per game, Gabe Vincent has the long term contract and is considered to be the better defender between the two.How the Lakers play the rest of December will have a major impact on their ultimate trade deadline decisions. L.A. has 11 games remaining before December 31st and are unlikely to make any moves before then.
Should they continue to win games, dominate defensively, and rise in the standings, however, the Lakers may ultimately decide to stand pat or only make minor moves on the margins before the February 8 trade deadline.Let’s take a look at how the Lakers’ defense has emerged as a dominant force, why the 11 games remaining in December could change Lakers’ midseason strategy, and what the Lakers are likely to do at the deadline.
LAKERS’ DEFENSIVE DOMINATION
Injuries muddied the Lakers’ early vision of a big, long, and athletic bully ball defense that could dominate the paint,control the rim, and shrink the court and with their overwhelming positional size, length, and physicality.
Give Lakers’ head coach Darvin Ham credit for the bold move that ignited the Lakers’ defense by moving Austin Reaves to 6th man and making Cam Reddish the team’s starting shooting guard and de facto defensive stopper.
In the 12 games since that change, the Lakers record is 10–2 and their defense has consistently ranked among five best in the league. Reddish has also played well offensively and appears to be a lock as starting two guard.But the return of injured forwards Jarred Vanderbilt and Rui Hachimura triggered a second wave of improvement for the Lakers size and defense. Now when Cam Reddish leaves the court, Jarred Vanderbilt comes in.
There was kind of a consensus Taurean Prince was simply a placeholder for Jarred Vanderbilt. While that could still turn out to be the case, being able to have an elite perimeter defender all 48 minutes is a killer weapon.And that’s exactly what the Lakers threw at Tyrese Haliburton every minute he was in the game. Haliburton noted in his postgame presser thankfully “Not every team has Anthony Davis and a bunch of 6′ 8” and 6′ 9″ wings.” Every time the Pacers tried to pull Anthony Davis out of the paint with a Haliburton pick-and-roll, the Lakers counter by trapping and doubling Tyrese and forcing him to make tough passes that James was waiting for.
The Lakers’ defensive domination is real and should only get better when 6’3″ point-of-attack defender Gabe Vincent returns to action next week. Lakers plan to ride their #1 defense to a league-leading 18th NBA title.
LAKERS’ DECEMBER CHALLENGE
The Los Angles Lakers’ December challenge starts with 4 winnable games, including 1 road game against the Mavs without Kyrie, 2 road games against the Spurs, and 1 home game against the Knicks without Mitchell Robinson.
Then comes the most challenging part of the Lakers’ December schedule as they depart on a 7-game road trip. From December 21 to 30, the Lakers play the Timberwolves twice and the Celtics and the Thunder once each.
Ideally, the Lakers should sweep the 3-game Texas road trip and 1-game homestand versus the Knicks to raise their record to 18–9. Should L.A. be able to go 5–2 on that road trip, it would leave them at 23–11 at year end.A 23–11 record should be good enough for #2 seed in the West, assuming the Timberwolves continue to hold the #1 seed. Were the Lakers to win both of the teams’ games in late December, Lakers could even be #1.
While the Lakers continue to prove defense can carry them, they need better and more 3-point shooting to loosen up opposing defenses if they want to win the championship. Right now, it’s limiting their ceiling.The numbers behind the Lakers’ poor 3-point shooting are telling. Lakers rank #30 with 10.2 makes per game while allowing 13.5 makes per game, which means they are losing the 3-point battle by 9.9 points per game.
The Lakers counter that by winning the points-in-the-paint battle by 6.5 points per game and the made-free-throws battle by 5.5 points. That’s the Lakers’ game plan and at this point, it’s working and Lakers are winning.How the Lakers handle this December challenge will influence what the team does at the trade deadline. They’ll clearly have to shoot better than they did against the Pacers to survive the December challenge.
LAKERS DEADLINE NEEDS
The Los Angeles Lakers are simply the worst 3-point shooting team in the league. They make the fewest threes of any NBA team because they take the second fewest attempts and shoot the fifth worst percentage of any team.
However, the Lakers have been better during the last 15 games of the season, when they’ve gone 11–4. During those 15 games, the team raised it’s 3-point percentage from 34.3% to 36.8%, which ranked 14th in the league.
The problem is that 2.5% increase in 3P% only worked out to be 1.8 more points per game because they still took less than 30 3PA per game. The Lakers will need to make a trade to solve their 3-point shooting problemIn the modern NBA era, the NBA championship has never been won by the team that is the worst 3-point shooting team in the league. The Lakers would have to make history to the NBA championship shooting so poorly.
Nor is the answer is Zach LaVine or Trae Young, who are both too expensive and fragile. More than anything, the Lakers need a proven lethal 3-point shooter who will torch teams every time they try to double LeBron or AD.But the Lakers will need to trade for a volume 3-point shooter if they want to cut down on the massive negative 3-point differential that they face in almost every game. The current roster can’t shoot their way out of this. Pelinka may even have to spend a valuable draft pick to get a player who can shoot near 40% and takes 7 to 8 threes per game. Adding a lethal shooter like Buddy Hield or Bojan Bogdanovic could be the missing piece.
The Lakers essentially need a high volume, high percentage 3-point shooter as fifth starter next to LeBron James, Anthony Davis, Cam Reddish and either D’Angelo Russell or Gabe Vincent. Someone like Bojan Bogdanovic.
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LakerTom11 months, 2 weeks ago
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LAKERS’ DEFENSIVE DOMINATION
The Lakers’ defensive domination is real and should only get better when 6’3″ point-of-attack defender Gabe Vincent returns to action next week. Lakers plan to ride their #1 defense to a league-leading 18th NBA title.https://t.co/eRE4z1g2lL pic.twitter.com/mfFLy0aKhD
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) December 12, 2023
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LAKERS’ DECEMBER CHALLENGE
How the Lakers handle this December challenge will influence what the team does at the trade deadline. They’ll clearly have to shoot better than they did against the Pacers to survive the December challenge.https://t.co/eRE4z1g2lL pic.twitter.com/ocUTSpslhA
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) December 12, 2023
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LAKERS DEADLINE NEEDS
The Lakers essentially need a high volume, high percentage 3-point shooter as fifth starter next to LeBron James, Anthony Davis, Cam Reddish and either D’Angelo Russell or Gabe Vincent. Someone like Bojan Bogdanovic.https://t.co/eRE4z1g2lL pic.twitter.com/OUm5yxBOnx
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) December 12, 2023
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Aloha Tom, Nice post. I agree with most of your points. While we definitely need to shoot more 3’s I don’t think trading for a shooter will do much. The Lakers simply do not run plays for 3 point shooters. Case in point. DLO is shooting 40% from 3 on 5.5 3 point attempts a game, yet we don’t set him up. He gets his on transition pull ups and drive and kicks. That just the way the Lakers play. In this system, it’s more important to have several guys out there that can hit a 3 than having a volume shooter. DLO is always the trade piece to get that shooter but trading him for another shooter would be a wash. As you pointed out our shooting has been improving. Prince seems to have rediscovered his stroke and we know Austin is better than he has shown. I think our shooting percentage will be fine. As for attempts, that’s on the coaching staff to find ways to generate more 3 point looks. Attacking the paint will continue to be the focus. Part of the low 3 point attempts have been a result of us being so successful in the paint.
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Aloha, Michael,
Thanks for reading and commenting. You make some key points about our 3-point shooting and the problem is certainly not a new or easy one to solve. Bottom line, I don’t think we’re very far apart from agreeing.
First, I do agree with you that it’s going to be hard for Lakers to trade DLo because they need his shooting and playmaking and getting a better replacement may not be possible. And relying on Gabe at this point w/b risky.
But I think two things are obvious.
1. We need to take and make more threes, not shoot better.
No matter how much better we shoot (up 2.5% in last 5 games), it’s not going to help our negative 3-point differential because what we need is more made threes, which you only get from taking more threes.2. Current roster can’t solve problem. We need volume 3-point shooter
Lakers need a high volume & percentage 3-point shooter, a gunner like Hield or Bogdanovic, who will take 7 to 10 threes per game.
Doesn’t have to be superstar or make $40M or be more than a great fit for the next two years.
I believe that player is Bojan Bogdanovic. We’ll have to give up the pick to get him but he could be difference maker imo.
He replaces Prince at small forward in the starting lineup.
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I guess the big difference between us is, you believe the answer is a volume 3 point shooter and I don’t believe we will change the offense to accommodate one. This is a Lebroncentric offense. In this offense the ball finds the open man. We rarely run plays for shooters. If we did DLO would be getting plays run for him.
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I think that’s an accurate description. I do believe having a player on the court like Buddy Hield or Bojan Bogdanovic is the key to the team cutting down on their negative 3-point differential. Nor am I wanting to shift the true focus of our team from our defense or our offense from it’s rim attack mode.
I just firmly believe we can be a much better team if we had one truly lethal volume 3-point shooter. Hield, Bogdanovic, Herro. I think that will be our trade target because we can’ win being dead last in 3PM and the current players aren’t going to solve problem.
Anyway, I think we both love the team we have right now and the defense they can play. It has the potential as the best supporting cast LeBron and AD have had on the Lakers.
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I also think there are shooters who are so lethal that opposing teams try not to leave them open and teammates are always looking to get them the ball. We need one of those guys.
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The problem with the Lakers negative 3-point differential is that it cannot be solved by just shooting better. You have to shoot more threes. And our current players just cannot do that.
The math just doesn’t work. Shooting better from deep has little impact because what counts are 3PM and the Lakers don’t have enough 3PA to make a lot of 3PM.
Of course, the player whom we get will have to beat the Lakers’ curse but we don’t have to just run plays for him. LeBron and others will find him because he will trust him. That’s what we don’t have now. Play smart and the ball will find him.
You can’t take a 3 or 4 shots per game 3-point shooter and turn him into a 8 to 9 shot guy. You have to trade for an 8 to 9 shot shooter who has the gravity with opponents and teammates to get those shots.
Anyway, I love the team we have right now but I think we have to give up some insurance depth to get more shooting in the starting lineup to win #18.
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PROPOSED LAKERS BOGDANOVIC TRADE
Lakers need to take & make more 3's to reduce negative 3-point differential.
They need dead-eye volume 3-point shooter to solve problem.
Shooter needs to play small forward to relace Prince in starting lineup.
Bojan Bogdanovic is perfect fit. https://t.co/qy06TYakJS pic.twitter.com/DGbsVG3nzZ
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) December 12, 2023
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Rui is another example. Last year he shot 49% in the playoffs but only got 2.5 shots even though he is on fire. This year despite the injuries he is getting 3 shots at 40%. Because we do not run offense for 3 point shooters. Bojan has only played 4 games but last year he shot 41% from 3 on 6 attempts. He has only shot 7 3 a game once in his career. He would be just like Rui. Sitting in a spot. Waiting. Besides Rui is an overall better player than Bojan. Perhaps the key is getting more shots for our shooters.
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If the goal were to dramatically improve the Lakers starting lineup's offensive/defensive balance, what better move could there be than to replace Prince with a high percentage, high volume 3-point shooter who c/b counted upon to take 7 to 10 and make 3 to 4 threes per game? pic.twitter.com/EBMFG1geOH
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) December 12, 2023
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The Lakers’ Zach LaVine trade will not end up like the Russell Westbrook trade because LaVine’s a better player and fit than Russ and L.A. won’t agree to any deal unless Chicago’s appropriately desperate to dump Zach.
Two years ago, the Lakers traded Kyle Kuzma, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Montrezl Harrell, and the 22 pick in 2021 draft to the Washington Wizards for Russell Westbrook and their 2024 and 2028 second round picks.
Essentially, the Lakers gave up two starters, one backup, and one first round pick for Westbrook and two second round picks. While L.A. missed Kuzma and KCP, the core issue with the trade was Westbrook’s poor fit.Ultimately, the decision to trade for Zach LaVine will depend on whether the Lakers believe he is the right fit for what they need and whether the Bulls are willing to accept the players and draft capital being offered.
Right now, it appears the Bulls’ first priority is dumping LaVine before other pieces and it appears the Lakers are interested but only at the right price, which makes sense considering the Bulls don’t have other options.Pelinka’s done a great job rebuilding Lakers after the Westbrook disaster and has the team well positioned with tradable players on team friendly contracts and a post-LeBron pick just waiting for opportunity to knock.
The Lakers don’t have player chips or draft capital to trade for a legitimate superstar like Doncic or Jokic so they must be realistically opportunistic when a struggling team like the Bulls needs to dump LaVine’s huge salary.Let’s take a deeper dive into why Zach LaVine is a better player and fit for the Lakers than Russell Westbrook, what an acceptable Lakers/Bulls trade would look like, and how good the Lakers’ roster and rotation would be.
Zach LaVine Is Not Russell Westbrook
Let’s start with the obvious: Zach LaVine is not Russell Westbrook, whose poor ball shot selection, inane ball security, and abysmal shooting made him a terrible fit next to superstars LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
Four years younger than Russ was when traded to L.A., the 28-year old LaVine is a better fit as a third star on the Lakers than Russ was because his elite 3-point shooting gravity could unleash superstars James and Davis.
Zach LaVine gives the Lakers an All-Star shooting guard who can give the starting lineup 25 points, 5 rebounds, and 5 assists per game to make the team less dependent on soon-to-be 39-years old superstar LeBron James.LaVine’s a career 38.2% high-volume 3-point shooter who averaged over 37.5% on 7 to 8 attempts per game over last four seasons before getting off to a slow start this season and shooting just 33.6% from deep.
The Los Angeles Lakers, LeBron James, and Anthony Davis desperately need an elite high volume, high percentage 3-point shooter whom teams have to defend who can create space for James and Davis to attack the rim.Unlike Westbrook, LaVine possesses the right shooting, playmaking, and rebounding skills to fit in as the Lakers’ third star with James and Davis and then move on as the second star with Davis when James eventually retires. Fortunately for the Lakers, they already probably know what LaVine is willing to do to fit in with the Lakers because of their close relationship with Klutch Sports Group, who’re the agents for James, Davis, and LaVine.
A Lakers trade for LaVine was predicted when Zach signed with Klutch Sports Group in 2021. With the right mindset and mentality, Zach could become the uber-athletic long-range assassin the Lakers have long coveted
An Acceptable Lakers/Bulls Trade
The trade Lakers’ reporter Eric Pincus thinks is ‘most practical’ for the Lakers sends D’Angelo Russell, Rui Hachimura, Jalen Hood-Schifino, and a lightly protected 2029 first round draft pick to the Bulls for Zach LaVine.
What makes the trade work for the Lakers despite LaVine’s $40.0 million salary this season and the $178.1 million remaining on his 4-year contract, is they’re only giving up two rotation players and one first round pick.
Because of the size of LaVine’s contract and lack of competing teams, the Lakers shouldn’t be willing to give up Austin Reaves or include pick swaps. If they need a sweetener, include Max Christie and a couple of seconds.Giving up just two rotation players means the Lakers will lose a net of one rotation player when they trade Zach LaVine for rotation players D’Angelo Russell and Rui Hachimura plus non-rotation players Hood-Schifino.
That would let L.A. retain a deep 11-man rotation with LeBron James, Anthony Davis, Zach LaVine, Austin Reaves, Cam Reddish, Gabe Vincent, Jarred Vanderbilt, Taurean Prince, Christian Wood, and Jaxson Hayes.Strategically, the Lakers know there will be a risk trading for LaVine. The money could seriously limit future options. LaVine’s also injury prone like James and Davis and he could run into problems fitting with the Lakers. Hopefully, salary cap increases will normalize Zach’s contract, he and the rest of the team will remain healthy, and the fit with the Lakers will be seamless and complement and unleash LeBron and AD to be their best.
Zach LaVine is not Russell Westbrook. If the Bulls are willing to trade Zach LaVine for D’Angelo Russell, Rui Hachimura, Jalen Hood-Schifino, and a 2029 first round pick, that’s an gamble the Lakers should not pass up.
Post-Trade Starting Lineup & Rotation
The key to a successful trade for Zach LaVine is the Lakers ending up with a dramatically upgraded starting lineup and still being able to field a deep and diverse 10 or 11-man rotation despite paying for three max superstars.
A Lakers’ starting lineup with LeBron James at point guard, Zach LaVine at shooting guard, Cam Reddish at small forward, Jarred Vanderbilt at power forward, and Anthony Davis at center could be among the best in the NBA.
James, Davis, and LaVine give the Lakers’ starting lineup a trio of lethal offensive weapons while Reddish and Vanderbilt give them a duo of lock-down point-of-attack defenders to throw at opposing teams’ backcourts.Bench depth and diversity matter. Post-trade, the Lakers primary backups would be Gabe Vincent at the one, Austin Reaves at the two, Taurean Prince at the three, Christian Wood at the four, and Jaxson Hayes at the five.
The Lakers would also have Max Christie, who at best could work his way into the rotation and at worst be insurance in case some player got injured, and they have an edge over other contenders in signing buyout candidates.If there’s concern about the Lakers’ post-trade roster, it’s that the Lakers have four key players in Reddish, Prince, Wood, and Hayes for whom they don’t have Bird rights and could easily lose to free agency next summer. Fortunately, the Lakers have developed a reputation as the best landing spot for struggling free agents looking to redeem their games and brands playing with James and Davis under the bright lights of Los Angeles.
Zach LaVine is a better fit as a third star for the Los Angeles Lakers than Russell Westbrook was because he’s a career 38.2% 3-point shooter whose 4 rebounds and assists per game would reduce dependence on LeBron James
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The Lakers don’t have player chips or draft capital to trade for a legitimate superstar like Doncic or Jokic so they must be realistically opportunistic when a struggling team like the Bulls needs to dump LaVine’s huge salary.https://t.co/5Yt1EuzSxX pic.twitter.com/257NlG2KRG
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) December 3, 2023
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Zach LaVine Is Not Russell Westbrook
Let’s start with the obvious: Zach LaVine is not Russell Westbrook, whose poor ball shot selection, inane ball security, and abysmal shooting made him a terrible fit next to superstars LeBron James and Anthony Davis.https://t.co/5Yt1EuzSxX pic.twitter.com/KebYwrvR0c
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) December 3, 2023
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An Acceptable Lakers/Bulls Trade
Trade Lakers’ reporter Eric Pincus thinks is ‘most practical’ for the Lakers sends D’Angelo Russell, Rui Hachimura, Jalen Hood-Schifino, and a lightly protected 2029 first round draft pick to the Bulls for Zach LaVine.https://t.co/5Yt1EuzSxX pic.twitter.com/5WNbUOPZug
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) December 3, 2023
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Post-Trade Starting Lineup & Rotation
Key to a successful trade for LaVine is Lakers ending up with a dramatically upgraded starting lineup and still being able to field a deep and diverse 10 or 11-man rotation despite paying for three max superstars.https://t.co/5Yt1EuzSxX pic.twitter.com/oaeHsIHbD9
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) December 3, 2023
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I’m not even sure he makes up for the production lost from D.Russell & Rui. Plus..he’s already down with a foot injury. Really don’t wanna see LBJ running point either…maybe Gabe steps up whenever he comes back. Hate to lose Rui especially with the jury still being out on C.Wood.
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I doubt the Bulls would accept just 2 rotation players and 1 pick for LaVine but that’s the most the Lakers should offer. He’s worth the risk if the Bulls give him up for that.
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I have to disagree on a LaVine trade Tom. First he is a 2 time all star with a disturbing injury history making superstar money. He isn’t a superstar. Then DlO and Rui are combining for 30 points a game. As the 3rd option which he will be, he won’t be scoring much more than the 21 he is scoring now. DLO is our best playmaking PG. 6.6 assist to 1.8 turnovers in 30 minutes. Zach get 3.4 to 2 turnovers. Rui is our best option to give LeBron rest. He defends which Zack doesn’t do, rebounds and is 42% from 3. Zach just would not be worth losing DLO and Rui. And fortunately it sounds like the Lakers are not that interested. The league has made it really hard to spend and that trade would put us in a terrible cap situation moving forward.
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Your points are all valid, Michael. There are better trades imo for the Lakers to make but I still believe the Lakers will make a run at Zach. I would not give up more than 2 rotation players and 1 pick for him but at that price, he would be a steal but a risky one.
The Lakers can’t trade for a legitimate superstar to replace LeBron. They just don’t have the draft capital to do that. So they need to be opportunistic if a team like the Bulls is willing to trade LaVine for what amounts to a dump.
I also think the Lakers are trying to downplay their interest at this point, which is the smart thing to do. Zachs’ strength is his volume 3-point shooting plus his youth and athleticism. Not a slam dunk but let’s see what happens.
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The Lakers said they are not interested because of salary concerns. I don’t think they are bluffing. If we trade for Zach and LeBron picks up his option, that is 175mil for 7 players. We would not be able to use the MLE. Thats 7 minimum contracts or 6 if we keep our pick. And two of our 7 are rookies that are years away from really contributing. We could bring back Max. But no money would be left to bring back a guy like Cam. The CBA has made it very difficult to spend.
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I don’t think the Lakers are willing to give up more than a pick for LaVine and it may be that’s all the Bulls may be able to get. A lot will depend on what LeBron and AD think of Zach. Lakers would be foolish not to be interested but it has to be at a great price, which means we still have an 11-man rotation and don’t give up more than 1 pick. I believe if that deal is on the table, LAL takes it.
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No gesture says more about on-court domination without a technical for taunting than offensive players making the ‘too small’ gesture after taking advantage of their size and length to easily score on a smaller defender.
While the Lakers hope to improve their 3-point shooting, their strength is their ability to win the points-in-paint (PIP) and made-free-throws (MFT) battles by more than they lose their negative 3-point shooting differential.
That’s the formula the Lakers used to make the conference finals last season after a poor 2–10 start but have struggled to execute this year until they went big and started 6′ 8″ Cam Reddish at shooting guard for 6 games.Before the inserting Reddish in the starting lineup for Reaves, the Lakers were generating only +9.9 points per game from PIP and MFT, which did not cover their -12.0 points per game negative 3-point shooting differential.
With Reddish starting at shooting guard for 6 games, the Lakers outscored their opponents by +15.8 points per game from PIP and MFT, which easily was enough to beat the -10.5 points per game 3-point shooting differential.The Lakers under Rob Pelinka and Darvin Ham have a unique opportunity to build a deep, talented, defense-first roster that possesses legitimate, actionable size, length, and physicality advantages at all five positions.
Pundits have long visualized the ‘ultimate’ NBA starting lineup as five 6′ 8″ to 6′ 10″ long, athletic players who could dominate the paint and glass at both ends. That may be exactly what Ham and the Lakers are trying to do.Here are the three roster moves Lakers’ coach Darvin Ham needs to make to create a Lakers’ version of the ‘ultimate’ starting lineup that possesses dominating size, length, and physicality advantages at all five positions.
1st Move — Start Jarred Vanderbilt Next to Cam Reddish
The first move Ham should make to improve the Lakers’ positional size is starting 6′ 9″ Jarred Vanderbilt at the three once healthy and pairing him with 6′ 8″ Cam Reddish to create a starting duo of elite wing defenders.
While Vando’s been approved to begin physical contact and ramping up to return to the team’s rotation, there’s a growing consensus he will replace Taurean Prince as the starting small forward sometime in the near future.
With Cam Reddish starting at shooting guard and Jarred Vanderbilt at small forward, the Lakers would essentially have two elite wing starters with the size and length to ably defend opposing high-scoring guards and forwards.Starting 6′ 8″ Reddish and 6′ 9″ Vanderbilt would represent Darvin Ham and the Los Angeles Lakers doubling down on their identity as a defense-first team who dominates paint and glass with elite positional size and length. While there’ll be pressure on Reddish and Vanderbilt to be able to shoot a respectable percentage from three, both should be able to take advantage of their superior size and length to dominate smaller defenders offensively.
Turning Reddish and Vanderbilt into an elite point-of-attack perimeter defensive pair who can slow down the bigger high-scoring guards and wings that dominate the West is a championship development for L.A.
Cam and Vando give the Lakers a defensive duo to match up with the top offensive duos in the league like the Mavs’ Luka and Kyrie, Suns’ Booker and KD, Warriors’ Steph and Klay, or Pacers’ Haliburton and Mathurin.The Lakers are excited about the idea of having their two best perimeter defenders in their starting lineup alongside Anthony Davis. It’s a huge move that doubles down on their identity for defense and physicality.
2nd Move — Start LeBron James at Point Guard
Starting Cam Reddish and Jarred Vanderbilt gives the Lakers positional size advantages at shooting guard and small forward and also opens a unique opportunity for the Lakers to go big at point guard with 6′ 8″ LeBron James.
The only reason the Lakers don’t start James at the point guard is they don’t want him defending smaller and quicker point guards, an objection that’s easily eliminated by having Reddish or Vando defend the opposing guards. While many Laker lineups already have LeBron playing point on offense and small or power forward on defense, the next step is embracing starting James at point guard to create positional size advantage at that position.
The NBA is a guard and wing driven league and most offensive firepower is focused on the point guard, shooting guard, and small forward positions since they play on on the perimeter and have the ball in their hands more. Few NBA teams have high-powered scorers at all three of these positions, which mean the Lakers could have Reddish and Vanderbilt defend the opponent’s two best scorers while James defends their weakest scorer.
Starting 6′ 8″ LeBron James at the one, 6′ 8″ Cam Reddish at the two, and 6′ 9″ Jarred Vanderbilt at the three would give the Lakers an advantage in perimeter size, length, and athleticism for all three positions at both ends.
The James/Reddish/Vanderbilt starting lineup could force opposing teams to go big or risk being dominated by Lakers’ size, length, and athleticism. Teams could find it hard to score upon or stop this lineup from scoring.While the Lakers have been trying for three years to reduce the playmaking workload on LeBron James, the smartest thing the Lakers could do right now could be to go super big and start 6′ 8″ LeBron James at point guard.
3rd Move — Start Christian Wood Next to Anthony Davis
Now that L.A. has gone big at both the guards and small forward positions, Darvin Ham needs to finish the big starting lineup makeover by moving Anthony Davis to power forward and starting Christian Wood at center.
Moving LeBron James to point guard, opens up a starting spot to pair a second big with Anthony Davis. Because Reddish and Vanderbilt are not proven dead-eye 3-point shooters, the Lakers need a stretch second big.
The two candidates with the size and length and 3-point shooting gravity to be the Lakers’ second big are 6′ 8″ Christian Wood and Rui Hachimura. Wood has produced the 2nd best plus/minus on the team and is best fit.Christian Wood also has a team best +7.6 NetRtg playing next to Anthony Davis. Much of the team’s success early in the season was the result of complementary two-bigs lineups with Chris Wood and Anthony Davis.
Wood is also part of four of the five top rated Lakers’ five-man lineups that have played together for more than 10 minutes this season. The stats and the eye test both say Christian as the ideal second big to play with AD.As the Lakers approach December 15, there’s also a chance Pelinka will trade some of the Lakers 12-deep roster to upgrade their 10-man rotation and improve their chances of finally winning their 18th championship.
Pelinka will certainly be watching how the Pacers, Timberwolves, and Jazz do since Myles Turner, Karl-Anthony Towns, or Lauri Markkanen would be perfect upgrades over Christian Wood, whom L.A. will lose to free agency.Wood’s ability to shoot from all three levels creates spacing for Davis to offensively dominate in the paint and at the rim while his elite length and mobility enable him both to protect the rim and switch on the perimeter.
Why Lakers’ Super Big Lineup Could Be Juggernaut
The Lakers’ super big starting lineup boasts five tall, long, and athletic players from 6′ 8″ and 6′ 10″ with wingspans greater than 7′ whose size and length advantages can dominate the paint and glass at all five positions.
What the Lakers super big lineup provides is three difference-making enhancements over the team’s current starting lineup: LeBron James playing point guard, two elite wing defenders, two elite big scorers.
Each improvement alone represents a major upgrade of the Lakers’ starting lineup. Combined, they represent a transformation that could turn the Lakers new super big starting lineup a juggernaut at both ends.Remember when LeBron James kept telling Darvin Ham that he could play the point? With Cam and Vando defending the opposing team’s best guards and wings, the Lakers can literally unleash LeBron James to play the one. Surrounding James with elite 3-point shooters was the old school solution to optimizing the King. The Lakers’ new school path to optimizing LeBron is surrounding him with championship size, length, and athleticism.
Offensively, the Lakers’ super big starting lineup will be heavily dependent upon LeBron James’ and Christian Wood’s 3-point shooting but should be totally dominant when it comes to winning the key PIP and MFT battles. Defensively, teams are going to find it very difficult to score on the Lakers’ new super big lineup, whose size, length, and physicality is going to shrink the court and make it very difficult for offenses to create spacing to shoot.
The Lakers have a unique opportunity to create a championship caliber super big starting lineup with five 6′ 8″ to 6′ 10″ players who would have size, length, and physicality advantages at all five positions on the court.
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Here are the three roster moves Lakers’ coach Darvin Ham needs to make to create a Lakers’ version of the ‘ultimate’ starting lineup that possesses dominating size, length, and physicality advantages at all five positions.https://t.co/ktmUBmhVTl pic.twitter.com/KvnEmhfCIv
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) November 23, 2023
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1st Move — Start Jarred Vanderbilt Next to Cam Reddish
First move Ham should make to improve Lakers’ positional size is starting 6′ 9″ Vanderbilt at three once healthy and pairing him with 6′ 8″ Reddish to create a starting duo of elite wing defenders.https://t.co/ktmUBmhVTl pic.twitter.com/vgTi89UIoY
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) November 23, 2023
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2nd Move — Start LeBron James at Point Guard
Starting Reddish and Vanderbilt gives Lakers positional size advantages at shooting guard and small forward and opens unique opportunity for Lakers to go big at point guard with 6′ 8″ LeBron James.https://t.co/ktmUBmhVTl pic.twitter.com/MndpNB6kiP
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) November 23, 2023
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3rd Move — Start Christian Wood Next to Anthony Davis
Now that L.A. has gone big at both guards and small forward, Darvin Ham needs to finish big starting lineup makeover by moving Anthony Davis to power forward and starting Christian Wood at center.https://t.co/ktmUBmhVTl pic.twitter.com/1TFIUq5BJs
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) November 23, 2023
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Great observations, Tom. I wonder why it is taking too long for Ham to act. The clock is ticking and waiting too long while the answer is obvious and right in front of our eyes is a little baffling. These lineups should be implemented asap!!
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Like that, but are we just gonna run LBJ into the ground again this year. He’s playing great-ish, but he was supposed to have the load lessened.
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You are right DJ. Lakers traded for Dennis in an effort to take some of the play making load off LeBron and extend his career. They did the same with Russ and then DLO. Having to run the show would wear him down. Then adding wood to the starting lineup would mean more time defending the perimeter for LeBron, leading to even more wear tear. I do not believe they would do that. Having Cam, Vando and AD in the line up will give us enough size and defense, allowing for DLO to run the offense.
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He’s made some adjustments. Guys are hurt. I believe Darvin would put King Kong in there if the guy could shoot. We all know he could box out and grab some boards 🙂
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Since Lakers’ head coach Darvin Ham started Cam Reddish instead of Austin Reaves, the Los Angeles Lakers have won 4 of their last 5 games to turn a worrisome 3–5 start into a 7–6 record and 7th place in the West.
Ham’s moves not only put to bed any concerns the Lakers were going to suffer a repeat of last season’s disastrous 2–10 start but also rekindled early optimism L.A. could legitimately compete with a healthy James and Davis.
Right now, the Los Angeles Lakers have the 5th best odds to win the 2024 NBA championship, trailing the Denver Nuggets, Boston Celtics, Milwaukee Bucks, and Phoenix Suns and slightly ahead of the Golden State Warriors.Still waiting for two key rotation players in Jarred Vanderbilt and Gabe Vincent to return from injuries, the Lakers have 7 more games left this month until the 20-game quarter pole in the long 82-game NBA season.
The Lakers need to go at least 5–2 over these next 7 games to finish the first fourth of the season with a 12–8 record, which would give them a 60% win percentage, likely good enough to move into top-6 West playoff teams.Let’s take a look at how Darvin Ham’s moves with Cam Reddish and Austin Reaves refocused the Lakers offensively and defensively and turned around what had the potential to become a second straight disastrous season start.
How Darvin Ham’s Moves Turned Lakers’ Season Around
Since starting Reddish and benching Reaves, the Lakers have been a different team, winning 4 of their last 5 games and turning a rough 3–5 start into a 7–6 record and 7th place in the Western Conference.
There’s no question pressure was starting to mount on second year Lakers’ head coach Darvin Ham not to allow the team to get off to a second straight disastrous start to the season as the 3–5 Lakers were 11th place in the West.
While a change in starters was expected, Ham opted to start Cam Reddish and move Austin Reaves to the bench, a move that surprised everybody as most anticipated Russell, not Reaves, being the player to go to the bench.Before swapping Reddish and Reaves, the Lakers 106.6 Offrtg was 28th, their 113.8 Defrtg 19th, and their -7.2 Netrtg 27th out of 30 NBA teams. That changed once Ham started Reddish and moved Reaves to the bench.
Suddenly, the Lakers played dramatically better at both ends of the court. In the 5 games since the change, the Lakers 117.1 Offrtg was 11th, their 110.5 Defrtg 8th, and their +6.6 Netrtg 8th out of 30 teams in league.Over this 5-game stretch, the Lakers’ 51.3% FG% ranked 2nd, their 43.9% 3P% ranked 1st, their 36.2 Drb/gm 2nd, their 8.8 Stl/gm 8th, their 6.6 Blk/gm 2nd, their 27.2 FTA/gm 5th, and their +6.6 Plus/Minus 8th.
The biggest impact of the change, however, could be how it unleashed LeBron James, whose team-best 124.9 Offrtg, 109.9 Defrtg, and team-best +15.1 Netrtg were the Lakers’ difference maker the last 5 games.Bottom line, Ham’s move to go big at shooting guard by starting Reddish and keeping Russell at point while moving Reaves to the bench as team’s sixth man refocused the Lakers on winning offensively and defensively.
How Reddish Starting Revitalized Lakers’ Starting Lineup
Since becoming a starter 5 games ago, Cam Reddish has averaged 13.8 points, 3.0 rebounds, 1.0 assists, 2.8 steals, and 0.5 blocks in 30.6 minutes per game with a +6.8 plus/minus, second best to only LeBron James’ +8.8.
Ham’s decision to start Cam Reddish at shooting guard, a position he hadn’t played since the first two of his four years in the league, was a major reason why the Lakers suddenly began playing better at both ends of the court.
His 2.8 steals per game was 4th best in the league during the last 5 games and showcased how Cam’s 6′ 8″ height and 7′ 1″ wingspan and aggressive point-of-attack defense suddenly transformed the Lakers’ backcourt.But Cam Reddish’s impact was not just limited to the defensive side of the ball. Over the past 5 games, Cam scored the 4th most points with shooting splits of 53.3% from the field, 52.2% from deep, and 81.8% from the line.
He showed he could not only score from all three levels but do so with athleticism and efficiency. During the last 5 games, Reddish posted a high 118.1 Offrtg, low 107.0 Defrtg, and team second best +11.1 Netrtg.Ham’s trust and belief in Reddish has both given Cam an opportunity he just didn’t have or wasn’t ready to take advantage of with previous teams. Darvin Ham desperately needed to a spark and starting Reddish lit a fire.
It also previewed a bigger and better defensive starting lineup that could prevent the Lakers from always losing the first quarter and falling behind by double digits and restore their paint points and free throw dominance.While many Lakers analysts see him as merely a placeholder in the starting lineup for the injured Jarred Vanderbilt, Cam Reddish shows solid signs that he should be the long-term starter and Taurean Prince the placeholder.
How Reaves Playing Sixth Man Revitalized Lakers’ Bench
The move by Lakers’ coach Darvin Ham to move young Austin Reaves to the bench as the team’s sixth man was designed to give the starting lineup more size and defense and the bench better shooting and playmaking.
Before moving to the bench, Austin was averaging 13.1 points, 4.4 rebounds, and 4.0 assists in 32.0 minutes per game while shooting 41.6% from the field, 27.8% from deep, and 80.8% from the free throw line.
Since coming off the bench the last 5 games, Reaves has averaged 13.0 points, 6 rebounds, and 6 assists in 28.9 minute per game while shooting 47.8% from the field, 47.1% from deep, and 81.3% from the line.There were a lot of reasons why Darvin Ham was smart to move Austin Reaves to the bench rather than D’Angelo Russell, who might not have accepted the move with the right spirit, including getting him going.
Before Reaves went to the bench, the Lakers were averaging 24.3 bench points per game. After moving Austin to the bench, the Lakers raised their bench points per game to 31.4, which ranked 20th among 30 NBA teams.Whether Reaves continues to come off the bench will depend on what the Lakers do at the trade deadline. The Lakers are currently looking at the possibility of trading for Chicago Bulls superstar two guard Zach LaVine. Should the Lakers trade for LaVine, their package would likely include D’Angelo Russell, Gabe Vincent, Taurean Prince, and Jalen Hood-Schifino to match salaries and the Lakers lightly protected 2029 first round pick.
In that scenario, the Austin Reaves could conceivable become the starting point guard in an upgraded Lakers’ backcourt with Zach LaVine. Bottom line, Austin Reaves move to the bench could end up being just temporary.
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The Lakers need to go at least 5–2 over these next 7 games to finish the first fourth of the season with a 12–8 record, which would give them a 60% win percentage, likely good enough to move into top-6 West playoff teams.https://t.co/rkvTbOdcO7 pic.twitter.com/IdG7Pjt6Hs
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) November 19, 2023
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It is important to keep in mind that the Lakers have two sets of back-to-back games the rest of the month. The second nights of each of those two are against teams with winning records. I can see those two games as scheduled losses.
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How Darvin Ham’s Moves Turned Lakers’ Season Around
Biggest impact of the change, however, could be how it unleashed LeBron James, whose team-best 124.9 Offrtg, 109.9 Defrtg, and team-best +15.1 Netrtg were the Lakers’ difference maker the last 5 games.https://t.co/rkvTbOdcO7 pic.twitter.com/r6KvrZELK4
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) November 19, 2023
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How Reddish Starting Revitalized Lakers’ Starting Lineup
Since becoming a starter 5 games ago, Cam has averaged 13.8 points, 3.0 rebounds, 1.0 assists, 2.8 steals, & 0.5 blocks in 30.6 minutes per game with +6.8 plus/minus, 2nd best to only James’ +8.8.https://t.co/rkvTbOdcO7 pic.twitter.com/UKzmmR7fHR
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) November 19, 2023
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With 7 deflections and 3 more steals (1 block) last night against Portland, Cam Reddish is now:
tied for 2nd in total deflections
tied for 4th in total steals
is in the 100% %ile in steal% among wingsThese are noisy, yes, but I feel it illustrates Cam's engagement level so far pic.twitter.com/3JUyO0Ne6s
— Alex Regla (@AlexmRegla) November 18, 2023
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How Reaves Playing Sixth Man Revitalized Lakers’ Bench
The move by Darvin Ham to move young Austin Reaves to the bench as the team’s sixth man was designed to give the starting lineup more size and defense and the bench better shooting and playmaking.https://t.co/rkvTbOdcO7 pic.twitter.com/3n8m0mbgeo
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) November 19, 2023
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3 games vs MEM & POR is a magic elixir as well. This next stretch of games including vs DAL, CLE, PHI, OKC to close out the month will give us a better measuring stick of where we actually stand. We haven’t fared well against good teams so far.
Also…we can’t start AR at pg. It’s not his best position. He’s being forced there with Gabe’s injury but I really hope Rob & D.Ham aren’t looking at it as a longterm solution.
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If they go after LaVine, they could end up moving AR back to starting point guard. I think his best position is probably as a backup point guard. That’s where he should stay IMO.
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I’m becoming a Cam fan. His defense has been great all year. However his offense was MIA early on. If he keeps his offense going I think he will replace Prince in the starting 5. With Vando now at 6’ 10” Cam and Vando along with AD would be a dynamic defense. I’m also becoming a DLO fan. He has noticeably change his approach into a true lead guard. After a bit of a slow start, in the last 10 games he has averaged: 31.4 minutes, 19.7 points, 51.4% FG, 43.3% 3-point FG, 80.8% FT, 3.3 rebounds, 6.4 assists, and 1.9 turnovers. He has also played serviceable defense. His +14.5 is 2nd to LeBron on the team. Austin hasn’t been nearly as good at the point. If DLO keeps this up I doubt we will see a trade involving him.
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Aloha, Michael,
I’m pretty much in agreement with you on Cam and on the possibility of having three elite defenders in the starting lineup. I want to improve our 3-point shooting but not at the cost of PIP and MFT.
Right now, the players who are more likely to be traded imo are are MLE and BAE signees Vincent and Prince. Combined, they make what DLo makes and it makes sense for them to make a move for a $20M player rather than a $40M guy.
Other problem with trading DLo is you have to get a point guard in return and that’s not going to be easy. DLo’s shown a willingness to adjust and has been a great teammate and leader imo.
Bottom line, Darvin made the right move and it’s had a major impact on the team. Now it’s time to start Rui and move Prince to the bench. That’s what I’d like to see tonight. More size against Rockets and Sengun.
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I agree Tom. As for trades, it is hard to tell what we need with at least two rotation guys and up to five missing in most of the games. As for 3 point shooting it is getting better. DLO, LeBron, Cam and Rui are shooting it well. We need Austin and Wood to start making the shots they are both capable of making. I also agree that Rui should be starting over Prince.
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The smartest move the Los Angeles Lakers could make this midseason is not to sacrifice depth for a third superstar but instead double down on size and defense as their championship identity by trading for Myles Turner.
The Lakers have clearly seen how playing next to a modern stretch five center like Christian Wood unlocks the best possible version of Anthony Davis as a superstar and makes the team more competitive and dangerous.
Rather than gamble on a better fitting and more complementary version of Russell Westbrook, the Lakers would be smarter to trade for Myles Turner and a deep and diverse roster as their path to more NBA championships.Darvin Ham has already shown his hand with respect to size and defense at the two guard position, where the defensive oriented 6′ 7″ Cam Reddish or 6′ 9′ Jarred Vanderbilt are projected to become the starting shooting guard. The next logical step is to trade for stretch five center Myles Turner and move Anthony Davis and LeBron James to the four and three. That would give the Lakers great positional size advantage at almost every position.
Trading for Pacer’s center Myles Turner and doubling down on size and defense as the keys to winning in today’s NBA and establishing the bully ball physicality and identity the Lakers want for their basketball team.
THE TRADE
While the Pacers have gotten off to a 6–4 start to the season with an offense performing at an unsustainable level and a defense that sucks, chances are high they’ll become sellers rather than buyers by the middle of December.
While the Lakers can offer a package of young players under 30 to match salaries, any trade for Myles Turner will require significant draft capital from the Lakers, in the form of at least a lightly protected pick and swaps.
In addition to their top-5 protected 2029 first round pick, the Lakers could also include their 2027 first round pick if first through fourth and pick swaps for their 2028 and 2020 first round draft picks in a Turner package.With the great play of Tyrese Haliburton and a bevy of talented players under 23-years old, the Pacers hope to be good enough to make the play-in tournament this season. If those aspirations fail, the Pacers will be sellers. The Pacers do have two coveted veterans in 27-year old center Myles Turner and 30-year old elite 3-point shooter Buddy Hield, whose time to be sold high for top dollars in return for draft capital may have finally come.
The Pacers need young players who can defend and a deal to acquire three valuable young prospects and one or two post-LeBron James first round picks or swaps from the Lakers could happen as soon as December 15th.
THE DEPTH CHART
The immediate impact of trading for Myles Turner is the Los Angeles Lakers will suddenly have the biggest and best defensive starting lineup and deepest and most diverse 10-player rotation in the entire league.
The Lakers’ starting lineup of D’Angelo Russell, Cam Reddish, LeBron James, Anthony Davis, and Myles Turner would have positional size advantage that few teams in the NBA would be able to match or counter.
The Lakers would have a starting lineup that’s bigger, longer, and more athletic than any other team and physically capable of totally dominating opposing teams in the paint, on the boards, and from the free throw line.The Lakers’ primary backups of Austin Reaves, Jarred Vanderbilt, Rui Hachimura, Christian Wood, and Jaxson Hayes could be the deepest and most diverse bench and anchor the best 10-man rotation in the league.
The Lakers would have everything needed to cruise in the regular season and peak in the playoffs. Two elite rim protectors. Two elite stretch bigs. Two elite point-of-attack perimeter defenders. Two elite playmakers.Trading for Indiana Pacers’ center Myles Turner is the ultimate move by the Los Angeles Lakers to build what could be the NBA’s next generation defense with major positional size and length advantage at most positions.
THE SALARY CAP
While the Lakers sacrificed valuable draft capital to acquire Myles Turner, they have actually improved their salary cap position because they now possess over $70 million in coveted players on team friendly contracts.
Have players that other teams covet on under market contracts will enable the Lakers to take advantage of star players suddenly becoming available. Trade assets include Turner, Russell, Hachimura, Reaves, and Vanderbilt.
Assuming the Lakers did not give up more than their 2029 first round pick and the 2027 first round pick if it’s top-4, they should then have enough draft capital next summer to offer at least 1 first round pick and 2 swaps.For the second year in a row, the Lakers have also remained below both luxury tax thresholds thanks to negotiating under market contracts with many of their players and attracting talented players on minimum deals.
The Lakers success with minimum contract projects like Jaxson Hayes, Rui Hachimura, and Cam Reddish — the 8th, 9th, and 10th picks in the 2019 draft — is the only reason the Lakers can afford to trade for Myles Turner.The Los Angeles Lakers’ trade for Myles Turner would not only make them a championship defensive team but also leave them with great depth and enough draft capital to make a blockbuster deal to replace LeBron James.
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THE TRADE
The Pacers need young players who can defend and a deal to acquire three valuable young prospects and one or two post-LeBron James first round picks or swaps from the Lakers could happen as soon as December 15th.https://t.co/Ty9MlPbh4J pic.twitter.com/aaENIe6irz
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) November 16, 2023
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THE DEPTH CHART
Trading for Indiana Pacers’ center Myles Turner is the ultimate move by the Los Angeles Lakers to build what could be the NBA’s next generation defense with major positional size and length advantage at most positions.https://t.co/Ty9MlPbh4J pic.twitter.com/Drmomhfwu0
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) November 16, 2023
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THE SALARY CAP
The Los Angeles Lakers’ trade for Myles Turner would not only make them a championship defensive team but also leave them with great depth and enough draft capital to make a blockbuster deal to replace LeBron James.https://t.co/Ty9MlPbh4J pic.twitter.com/PvlqE4eQej
— LakerTom (@LakerTom) November 16, 2023
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It’s difficult to say that those post-Lebron picks are gonna be in the Lottery and in the same breath say that these trades set us up for future success. Both can’t be true and the GM’s making those trades know this.
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Both could also be untrue. Frankly, I think the Lakers have already done a great job fielding a very young, deep, diverse, and talented roster to surround Anthony Davis. Lakers have a chance to stay as a contender when LeBron retires but they’re going to need another star to go with Davis and maybe more of an alpha. Don’t see how to do that unless the Lakers can milk another couple of productive years from LeBron James. Trading for Myles Turner could do that.
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I also don’t know why the Pacers (who are playing well) would trade the only real size they have on their team and not get any in return. This Turner thing has always been good in theory but doesn’t really hold up when the purple & gold tinted sunglasses are removed.
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Pacers would certainly need to come back down to earth to make the trade, which I expect to happen. They’re playing over their head right now offensively but poor on defense. Weak East is their only chance. Haliburton is legitimate game changer though.
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The Pacers were playing well last year before they were devastated by injuries. Ownership has stated repeatedly over the last two years that they want to build and compete. 27 year old Bruce Brown, same age as Turner, was ready to sign with the Lakers for 13 mil but they offered him 20 mil. Sounds like they are serious. Besides that 2029 first round pick doesn’t do the current young core much good. Halliburton will turn 29 the year they can use it. If healthy they have a real chance of at least making the play in, which is the organizations goal.
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Really hard to see the Pacers moving Turner for three dudes who don’t crack the starting rotation, maybe not even the 1st or 2nd player off the bench for their defensive anchor. That’d be like the Lakers trading AD for TJ McConnell, Obi Toppin, and Buddy Heild or something.
Also the Lakers need guard help waaaaay more than another big man. Trading for Turner creates a massive glut at the 4/5, marginalizes Wood and Hayes, and doesn’t help open up the floor.
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